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Beating the outlaws and legacy is not saying much. Need to play express, bandits, warriors, true blue and empire.

We still going with this nonsense

The question wasn't to debate if they are an A team or not by your standards. Call then the 1st if that makes you feel better. If you don't have an answer for the question move on.

You're putting Warriors, True Blue and Empire (Empire!?!?!?!) in the same category as Express and Bandits? S2S has played Express multiple times in tournaments over the last two years and beaten them twice and lost more than that. How many times have those other teams beaten Express? (the answer is zero)

S2S doesn't "need" to play those teams. If they are at the same tournament and they are matched up, then they will play them.

Is this the Same S2S that lost to SYAG, Outlaws and Igloo last year in scrimmages? Solid team but not elite level by any stretch.

You are referring to the wrong team. S2S is different from South Shore Thunder which pulls kids from Express Haugen.

South Shore Thunder does not pull kids from Express Haugen. They are a total separate team put together from Merrick, Bellmore and Wantagh. They are all good friends and they enter in around 3 tournaments. The kids all play on separate club teams Haugen, Trueblue, Recon, Igloo and maybe a few others. They play together when they can all for fun.

Where would F$G rank in this age group?

With fl$'s new team, they'll beat Outlaws, True Blue, and Empire. Lots of new kids with great talent.

Does anyone know how they did last year? and what changes will take place this coming season.

LOL have they even been in any good tournaments? No one has ever seen them

We're not giving away our secrets to BOTC.

Looks like some former Outlaw kids looking for little revenge.

They don't have a new team. They advertised as if a Suffolk team was forming, did a quick bait and switch then added to their last years team. You say New Team, so what are you saying about the kids that played on the team last year who are returning. Better watch what you ask for, you'll be shopping for another team again next year.

I saw the new kids at tryouts and they're a much needed breath of fresh air to jump the club up another level. Don't be scared to play them.

FL$ at the 2023 is a non entity, they will not compete with Bandits, Haugen, Trueblue, Igloo, Empire and S2S. Even Hedstrom, Legacee and the Warriors would beat them. They have never had a good team at this age group, plus they play in horrible tournaments. I have never seen them play anywhere. But good luck FL$ I hope your team does well this up coming season.

What level is that?

Another level up? after the supplemental tryout? Good luck.

Not saying much you will beat empire. Express beat them by 2 [lacrosse]

Now that's one funny statement. Best of luck to those players

S2S 2 legit 2 Quit for 17/18. You need to check yo self before you wreck yo self.

Empire is terrible. They've never been a good team. True Blue played well in one tournament and crappy in 5 others. S2S didn't play a quality team all season and Igloo barely beat SYAG and got smoked by all quality teams out of state. It's still Bandits and Express and Express is on the rise.

You know you really suck owner's son of a failure club.

Thanks 12 year old lax expert, your a loser

You know Sachem and Empire will rock your Outlaw a$$.

Ok express daddy. Lololol Aj neutralizes any rise. Unless he's in uniform

Wow some lose is quite bitter......

Why don't Sachem and your Empire team that plays B tournaments an hides from top teams Play in some A level tourny an see what happens

I understand your frustration with NP, about 10 families combined have left your teams over last two years at this age group and a total of 15 families from multiple towns Huntington included have specifically left the top team, trying to isolate negative comments to NP might be good for business, but issues are wide and deep. Continuing to post disparaging nonsense about other peoples children will only continue this negative loop, your call, but probably best to let it go.

Nobody likes Empire ? Why? I don't get it

Fl$ secret? It is no secret. They charge a lot of money and most tournaments they enter are their own tournaments and sometimes do tournaments with 3D. These are B level tournaments but since they run the tournament they can call it an A bracket. FL$ at their own tournaments set up the brackets so they play the worst teams and put the best teams in the other brackets Top two make the play offs from each bracket and they get smoked by a better B team in the playoffs after going undefeated beating C teams in pool play. They then tell their parents how good they did by making the playoffs when in reality they only beat the three worst teams that joined the tournament. 2018 is FL$ last good team. After that they are B and C teams at FL$. It's no secret. You never see them at the good tournaments at any age group. If they went they would have to enter the B bracket and explain to the parents why they are not playing in the A bracket. Easier to enter their own tournaments call the bracket filled with B teams an A bracket which they don't pay for and charge the parents a lot of money and control who they play to get in the playoffs. It is that simple.

Because there is never any drama and these princesses don't like that. Kids are happy there, parents happy there, good coaching. God forbid you have a team with no political BS.

What are you even talking about?

Talking about PB and his arrogance.

So based on your wisdom S2S didn't play any quality teams, therefore when they beat your express A team at one one the blatent tournaments, this must make you one of this low quality teams also....

Because they are a good group of kids that are very competitive and have a good coach. For a fairly newer program they have proven that they have grown in their lacrosse play and IQ which makes them a dangerous team to compete against. Other programs/parents want to drag them into their soap opera lives because misery loves company.

I guess arrogance must be in the eye of the beholder. My son is on the team and we have not witnessed any arrogance on the part of PB or any of the coaches.

Or it's because they're not very good, play in weak tourneys and claim to be one of the top teams on the island.

You poor thing. You're basing the stature of your team on a fall tournament? Come on now, we all know that fall tourneys don't mean anything. Fall is a time for trying new things, new kids, new positions, etc... the only tourneys that matter are in the summer. Did you play any real tournaments last summer? I don't think I saw your team anywhere.

You get great coaching and they run some great clinics, as of this 2023 team I heard they made some improvements this year.