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This doesn't make sense. There are plenty of 8th graders who play JV and some who play varsity? Is the issue that he was a 9th grader and played 5 years? Like someone else said, how do kids who legitimately get left back get to play a 5th year?

This doesn't make sense. There are plenty of 8th graders who play JV and some who play varsity? Is the issue that he was a 9th grader and played 5 years? Like someone else said, how do kids who legitimately get left back get to play a 5th year?

This was a 3 year disaster for SJB as a team. Father was a completed nut case. Giving his son every advantage he could. Funny thing is the reality is he only hurt the kid. The kid is really at a disadvantage because of the fathers controlling ways. This has been a big team distraction and caused an issue on a daily bases.

No doubt on that. C-quot not the team they were last year. Coaching is weak there, last years team was an anomaly of real good players who played together for years. Now that real coaching will come in to play it will be same old C-quot.

This doesn't make sense. There are plenty of 8th graders who play JV and some who play varsity? Is the issue that he was a 9th grader and played 5 years? Like someone else said, how do kids who legitimately get left back get to play a 5th year?

Kids who are failing shouldn't be eligible to play in the first place.

This doesn't make sense. There are plenty of 8th graders who play JV and some who play varsity? Is the issue that he was a 9th grader and played 5 years? Like someone else said, how do kids who legitimately get left back get to play a 5th year?

100% agree. Total bs and what about a kid who play varsity since 8th grade is he now limited to 4 years? did they always have this rule? kids getting left back for grades now can't play sports? basketball and football would be in trouble nation wide if so. total bs- coach W and St Ants is class act all the way

Time to get back to the Lax that really matters, NYS Championship season. Nobody gives a Rats [lacrosse] about the sissies depressed they can't play in a game that nobody but them cares about. The exciting games start tomorrow! Can't wait to see these boys battle it out!

Southside upsets Wantagh with as horrible offside call in addition to the horrendous coaching of Wantagh HyE352not being to make adjustments

Junior, get off your dads computer! WHAT GROWN MAN CALLS ANOTHER ONE A SISSY?? Maybe it is some type of xy chromosome deficient who between ordering his summer rompers has time to come on here and speak like a 12 year old! Do you say oopsie daisies when you fall over your big fat mouth??HACK

1). There are many public schools with hold backs/pg's what ever you want to call them on them. It is not only privates.

2). There is a NFHS (National Federation of State High Schools) rules which dictate the years of eligibility. I believe it states between year 9 and 12 you can only have 4 years of eligibility, the real scammers are those that repeat 8th (not skip 8th grade) to gain the 5 year. Many true privates aren't NFHS schools and don't following that rule. You want to get technical, there is a rule you can't play two games in one day. Not so sure the better public Ct schools play by that rule or else the dominoes would fall fast.

3). Lets not talk harp on geographic boundaries. The distance some towns across this state have are seemingly limitless. The schools with high enrollemet and lower enrollment both have competitive teams

4). Recruiting, yes coaches are involved with Club teams and can say hey why not come to my school. But as to actively recruit not to sure about that. Maybe the top 1% but who wouldnt reach out to see if interest is there. You are telling me some towns dont lure and reach out and say why dont you move here and we can have a special team, that happens as well.

5). Even playing field, How even is Wm playing against Lindy Sachem East Whitman Huntington. or Pequa vs Union Baldwin Oceanside Freeport
How about playing competitive Li lacrosse. Stop the BS and make power ranking and then do a tournament of Champions

The issue at hand is that the players are the ones being punished. Regardless if you think they were going to win or lose, players who did nothing wrong are being punished for the actions of the administration,parents, and player. Win as a team lose as a team. I agree with this 100%. Yet this type of infraction is one that has been made by the coach and administration of the school. The blame lays on them and not the players on the team who did nothing wrong. To say that they (the program) should be punished next year, in my opinion is too harsh a penalty because the ones being impacted (the players) had nothing to do with the infraction. This is not like banning a college team from playoffs or games where millions of dollars of TV contracts and bonuses are at stake for the school. The kids play the game because they love it. In the end the ones losing out are the ones who really put everything into a season and wanted one last chance to play Chaminade. Both programs lost out here.

100% - great post.
league officials (rules or not), failed to apply any sense of logic... Who in the world punishes kids for adults failures??
Horrible job by The League, St Anthony's, Chaminade AD, HS sports writers (Newsday and News12 - complete jokes) failing to stand up, and hold those responsible accountable... opposed to the kids looking to Compete in the final game of their HS career...

Wantagh has been a huge disappointment. The coaching staff needs to go. They have had so much talent over the last 5-6 years and do well in spite of the horrible head coach. He can never coach a win in a big game. Don't know why the school keeps him around. Being a district gym teacher does not make you a coach. So bad!!!

The number of kids repeating grades is high school is relativity low
But many of them are only repeating grade for athletics
Shame on the parents and administion who turn a blind eye to it

I think you are mistaken on this point, if you look nationally across all sports, i think you will find that many kids are held back, it may happen prior Middle School but it does happen. If a graduate is 18 at graduation, chances are, they are held back at some point in their schooling.

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

incorrect - lots of kids born in November and all kids born in December, January, February, March, April, May and June (if birthday is before graduation date) will be 18 at Graduation

If I read one more word about the irrelevant Catholic school drama, I'm going to throw up! Can we please get back to real Lax? Some big games today!

I've got:

Hills East by 2
Smithtown East by 4
Smithtown West by 3
WM by 5

my son was born in March will be 17 when he graduates. so you held your child back from kindergarten.

So basically, the league should have suspended the rules so the game could be played. Use that logic with all rules, hey I stole because I needed the money! Doesn't work, rules are black and white, not gray. The coaches at St. A did what was right. The league did what was right. Hopefully this never happens again. Case is closed.

The talent is not there for Wantagh this year. They have not won a game against any of the top teams. Lost to Hewlett, Garden City, Manhassett. Coaching is always the way the parents blame a lost. Team is just not good this year.

I like West islip over Smithtown West.

I dont mind hearing about the Catholic school stuff many of our sons friends are impacted. I think it was handled wrong, league should have immediately suspended player, let the team play then strip them of all wins.

I liked two other posts, if correct Manhasset and Nisky are undefeated!!!

Actually they have some talent and I agree you cannot blame everything on the coaching staff but one county title back in 2001 is old and stale and they have had some tremendous talent over the years. They were up 7 - 5 with about 6 minutes left and lost. When they went up 7 - 5 wouldn't you tell you very good faceoff kid, no matter what win the draw and lets settle on offense. The kid won draw and went to cage, stripped from behind, back the other way and wham 7 - 6 game. There never seems to be a game plan and that always leads to turnovers. Time to make a change IMO