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Madlax. They have B teams at every grade. The teams are terrible and those kids have a miserable experience. But their money is as good as the A team money, so keep it coming.

I think providing an option for B+ level players make sense. FCA tries to provide an experience more than lacrosse. As for the dues comment, FCA is not in it for the money. break even at best.

With all the events this weekend do you really think anyone was at Leesburg Virginia? Even some of the adrenaline events are money grabs now. Ton of coaches were on Long Island

Philly Freshman Showcase & Invitational was loaded with coaches. The all star games on Saturday must have had a 100+ coaches on the sidelines.

there were coaches at Long island but our team was disappointed. The fields were a disgrace. If your a 2021 planning next year make damn sure your team is in Philly.

there were coaches at Long island but our team was disappointed. The fields were a disgrace. If your a 2021 planning next year make damn sure your team is in Philly.

Philly Sunday Freshman Games were not well attended. There were coaches there but not a ton. They have 2018 and 2019 at alternate site which hurts 2020's.

Seriously, you all need to relax, the boys have plenty of time to make a decision about where they want to go to school

This is not about our sons timeline its about what is the best place to spend your hard earned money. All these events cost from $270 to $550. That is real cash to play in front of two dudes from crappy schools.

It isn't about the boys. This is all about the Dads living vicariously through little Johnny and being able to brag about where their son committed to as a 9th grader.

It isn't about the boys. This is all about the Dads living vicariously through little Johnny and being able to brag about where their son committed to as a 9th grader.

I'm enjoying the experience of living thru my son's lax play, sorry you're not feeling it.

I don't agree. There are a lot of options for the 2020's to participate in: tournaments and showcases. Some just aren't very good and there's no means other than word of mouth and/or message boards like BOTC to share experiences and opinions to help make decisions on where you'd like to spend your $$. Some events are pure money grabs and others are well worth it. Sure, us dads will be proud when/if our 2020's get college interest. We as dads have to get involved and do get invested in the process. Would you rather leave it up the the coaches and events? Crazies like Trigg and Cabell? They have their own agenda's. I'm enjoying the experience of living thru my son's lax play, sorry you're not feeling it.

"The CEO of your company did not sit back and wait around for someone to find him or her. He pushed the process".

This is my point. The boys have to be the ones actively engaged in this process, not the Dads. I am all for supporting and offering advice to my son, but unfortunately, early recruiting has made a large group of parents in the lacrosse world make it more about them, and not their boy. I am glad early recruiting wasn't around when my two older sons were in high school. As 9th graders, they were both dead set on playing D1 lacrosse. But when the offers arrived in 10th and 11th grade, they decided to accept offers to play a different sport in college at the D1 level. I am now involved again with my 9th grader, and as a "smart parent" will let him decide what he wants to do with his future.

"The CEO of your company did not sit back and wait around for someone to find him or her. He pushed the process".

This is my point. The boys have to be the ones actively engaged in this process, not the Dads. I am all for supporting and offering advice to my son, but unfortunately, early recruiting has made a large group of parents in the lacrosse world make it more about them, and not their boy. I am glad early recruiting wasn't around when my two older sons were in high school. As 9th graders, they were both dead set on playing D1 lacrosse. But when the offers arrived in 10th and 11th grade, they decided to accept offers to play a different sport in college at the D1 level. I am now involved again with my 9th grader, and as a "smart parent" will let him decide what he wants to do with his future.

I don't know what kind of 9th grader you are living with, but the one at my house has no idea if he wants to play in college, no idea what sport (he plays 3) and no idea what type of school (division, size, public/private, rural/urban the list goes on committed to playing a division 1 sport at this point. And, that he knows where he wants to go and also to some extent what he can/cannot major in (for example, very few programs encourage you to be any time of very rigorous major so engineering, pre med etc are out). I played a sport in college and I know what a huge commitment it is, and until my son is 100% in and knows what he wants, he will be happy to just play the sports he loves. I just cannot wrap my mind around this crazy early recruiting and I feel really sorry for the kids that are being pressured in to making such an important decision so early and on). I do understand that every family is very different, but I also find it very hard to believe that any kid (without their dad's pushing) really know what they want at this point. More power to your son if he truly knows that he is 100% decided on what type of school they want to attend

I don't know what kind of 9th grader you are living with, but the one at my house has no idea if he wants to play in college, no idea what sport (he plays 3) and no idea what type of school (division, size, public/private, rural/urban the list goes on committed to playing a division 1 sport at this point. And, that he knows where he wants to go and also to some extent what he can/cannot major in (for example, very few programs encourage you to be any time of very rigorous major so engineering, pre med etc are out). I played a sport in college and I know what a huge commitment it is, and until my son is 100% in and knows what he wants, he will be happy to just play the sports he loves. I just cannot wrap my mind around this crazy early recruiting and I feel really sorry for the kids that are being pressured in to making such an important decision so early and on). I do understand that every family is very different, but I also find it very hard to believe that any kid (without their dad's pushing) really know what they want at this point. More power to your son if he truly knows that he is 100% decided on what type of school they want to attend

I don't know what kind of 9th grader you are living with, but the one at my house has no idea if he wants to play in college, no idea what sport (he plays 3) and no idea what type of school (division, size, public/private, rural/urban the list goes on committed to playing a division 1 sport at this point. And, that he knows where he wants to go and also to some extent what he can/cannot major in (for example, very few programs encourage you to be any time of very rigorous major so engineering, pre med etc are out). I played a sport in college and I know what a huge commitment it is, and until my son is 100% in and knows what he wants, he will be happy to just play the sports he loves. I just cannot wrap my mind around this crazy early recruiting and I feel really sorry for the kids that are being pressured in to making such an important decision so early and on). I do understand that every family is very different, but I also find it very hard to believe that any kid (without their dad's pushing) really know what they want at this point. More power to your son if he truly knows that he is 100% decided on what type of school they want to attend

I enjoy living my own life. You should try it.

Guess this board has attracted a real self centered Dad who has no interest in helping his son and would rather not be involved in any aspect of the lacrosse process. Think they call that an absentee dad. they're 15 and need help to make decisions and we also have a great time together. Too bad you don't have the same relationship with your boy. I guess when the process is failing you'd rather look away and ignore it.

When you say "crazy", "can't wrap my mind around", "very hard to believe", "feel really sorry", you must have a very strong position on the matter, likely from experience. I wonder if you can give one example of a tragic, or even unfortunate, early recruiting story that has played itself out. I only hear of great success stories, or just very typical/average stories that would have occurred with or without an early verbal. I am aware of zero examples of early recruiting affecting a life in a negative manner. But again, with all of your hyperbole, I'm sure you can educate us with some of your crazy, hard to believe, real life examples that compelled you to chime in on a matter that you can't wrap your mind around. Enlighten us, please...

Bleacher Report

"He didn't ask for this, you know. Couldn't have imagined it in three forevers.

Which is sort of what the past six years have felt like.

David Sills didn't ask for Lane Kiffin to show up and turn his life sideways. Didn't ask to be offered a scholarship to mighty USC when he was just 13 years old. Didn't ask for the national attention, and then scrutiny, that came with the offer. Didn't ask for all that uncertainty while still figuring out puberty..."

USA Today

"In 2010, David Sills V couldn’t miss. On Thursday, he officially missed.

Dubbed a sure-fire college quarterback superstar while still in the seventh grade, Sills earned national attention when he committed to then-USC football coach Lane Kiffin on Feb. 10, 2010. He was just 12 years old, a protege of famed quarterback whisperer Steve Clarkson, who said his intangible quarterback makeup was unimpeachable. When added with genes that made it likely he would sprout into a college football-ready frame, Sills seemed like a good bet..."


Saw the above story on ESPN about a month or so ago and looked up the links to provide a football example.

Bleacher Report

"He didn't ask for this, you know. Couldn't have imagined it in three forevers.

Which is sort of what the past six years have felt like.

David Sills didn't ask for Lane Kiffin to show up and turn his life sideways. Didn't ask to be offered a scholarship to mighty USC when he was just 13 years old. Didn't ask for the national attention, and then scrutiny, that came with the offer. Didn't ask for all that uncertainty while still figuring out puberty..."

USA Today

"In 2010, David Sills V couldn’t miss. On Thursday, he officially missed.

Dubbed a sure-fire college quarterback superstar while still in the seventh grade, Sills earned national attention when he committed to then-USC football coach Lane Kiffin on Feb. 10, 2010. He was just 12 years old, a protege of famed quarterback whisperer Steve Clarkson, who said his intangible quarterback makeup was unimpeachable. When added with genes that made it likely he would sprout into a college football-ready frame, Sills seemed like a good bet..."


Saw the above story on ESPN about a month or so ago and looked up the links to provide a football example.

Lacrosse dumbo.