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Kind of sad how the 1-2 Madlax zealots here can only bring up Trig denying water to those kids (which is of course indefensible, but has nothing to do with Madlax).

There is nothing to defend about Madlax they have some great teams some avg. teams and one or two below avg teams. But Madlax has been around 20 years and has always put kids in place to be seen and given the kids a chance to play the best teams. The owner has done dumb mean things but the parents are aware of his mistakes and are all prepared if he chooses to repeat them.

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Any scores from today?

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Looneys 9.7 over next level
Looneys 11. 2 over black wolf
Looneys 13. 3 over l I Epress upstate

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complete shocker that Big 12 2020 all star roster has 2 FCA white kids that are also on the 2020 FCA blue roster...

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False!

All 3 of the FCA players who made the Big 12 All-Star game are on the FCA 2020 White team for the 2016-17 season.

The 2020 White team competed in the Big 12 this past weekend.

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[quote=Anonymous]complete shocker that Big 12 2020 all star roster has 2 FCA white kids that are also on the 2020 FCA blue roster...

Why is this a shocker, or a problem? All Stars are All Stars...

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The Big 12 tournament was a joke. Poorly run (not enough refs, crummy grass field, tourney machine not updated, etc.) and too many B teams. Complete waste of time.


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Big 12 was a B tourney.

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Well there was only 1 grass field I saw being played on. I saw 4 field turf fields being played on. There was a ton of college coaches there for a B tournament. But I agree there was a good number of B teams out there. But some teams clearly sent the A or AA teams to play in this. So this made some games very uneven. But my sons 2019 games had at least 1 if not 4 colleges coaches watching all 3 of his games. He plays for a second team so this was the most college scouts we saw on our sidelines all fall.

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Big 12 was a B tourney.
the 3D event in Delaware was worse. They should have at else tired the teams and you cant play lacrosse on a cow pasture

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FCA White and All Starts really shouldn't be used in the same sentence. I saw them play one game - lost by double digits with the other team playing their 2nd string.

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Caught sweetlax play rock and trust me, there were about 20 coaches on the sideline. Many on that team are apparently already committed so doesn't hurt anyone that a team like that brings in the coaches. Rock coach had many teachable moments when sweetlax was running circles around them offensively and dominating them on defense and that's a good thing. You only get better playing better teams. Tournament was for a good cause, weather was great, facilities were excellent, would like to see scores updated, and B teams can get bigger and better. Win win for everyone.

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The college coaches and coaches of the 5 or 6 actual AA teams got duped this year at the Big 12. Once the organizer came to the reality that teams such as FCA White and Rock 2020 were being let in to cover costs, they should have immediately suspended the event, or at least downgraded from an advertised recruiting event to a B level play day. Sweetlax Nationals and Orange Crush traveling to Howard County Maryland to play extended versions of the old local rec travel teams is a complete waste of time for everyone.

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[quote=Anonymous]Caught sweetlax play rock and trust me, there were about 20 coaches on the sideline. Many on that team are apparently already committed so doesn't hurt anyone that a team like that brings in the coaches. Rock coach had many teachable moments when sweetlax was running circles around them offensively and dominating them on defense and that's a good thing. You only get better playing better teams. Tournament was for a good cause, weather was great, facilities were excellent, would like to see scores updated, and B teams can get bigger and better. Win win for everyone. funny sweetlax didn't do that against 89+2 on saturday

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Hey genius, the organizer of the Big 12 Tourney is the head of Rock.

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FCA keeps these white teams around to help pay the freight for the AA exotic travel. This team should not be in recruiting events, however. That was a mistake, and unfortunately the college coaches had to sit through it.

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Caught sweetlax play rock and trust me, there were about 20 coaches on the sideline. Many on that team are apparently already committed so doesn't hurt anyone that a team like that brings in the coaches. Rock coach had many teachable moments when sweetlax was running circles around them offensively and dominating them on defense and that's a good thing. You only get better playing better teams. Tournament was for a good cause, weather was great, facilities were excellent, would like to see scores updated, and B teams can get bigger and better. Win win for everyone.


Major recruiting events are not there for teams to get better, rather they are there to showcase individual talent. For a Rock, or an FCA White to go to an event like this to "play against the best", is an example of what is causing dilution of talent at former major events. This Fall, the Big 12 essentially became Indian Summer. Sure college coaches were thrilled.

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[quote=Anonymous]Caught sweetlax play rock and trust me, there were about 20 coaches on the sideline. Many on that team are apparently already committed so doesn't hurt anyone that a team like that brings in the coaches. Rock coach had many teachable moments when sweetlax was running circles around them offensively and dominating them on defense and that's a good thing. You only get better playing better teams. Tournament was for a good cause, weather was great, facilities were excellent, would like to see scores updated, and B teams can get bigger and better. Win win for everyone. funny sweetlax didn't do that against 89+2 on saturday
Where is the Sweetlax National team from?

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The disinterested looks on the college coaches faces while watching an FCA White 2020 game must have been priceless!!

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[quote=Anonymous]Caught sweetlax play rock and trust me, there were about 20 coaches on the sideline. Many on that team are apparently already committed so doesn't hurt anyone that a team like that brings in the coaches. Rock coach had many teachable moments when sweetlax was running circles around them offensively and dominating them on defense and that's a good thing. You only get better playing better teams. Tournament was for a good cause, weather was great, facilities were excellent, would like to see scores updated, and B teams can get bigger and better. Win win for everyone. funny sweetlax didn't do that against 89+2 on saturday
Where is the Sweetlax National team from?


The United States of America.

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And now coaches will not be returning.

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Hey genius, the organizer of the Big 12 Tourney is the head of Rock.


So they really really should have known that entry of that team was a complete waste of time to the coaches and opponents

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the coaches were there to watch the older boys. sweetlax had a good showing up at the Hill Saturday and coaches there probably heard or watched them play and wanted to see more. Good grief. the tournament was fine. And it raised money for a good cause. every coach i saw seemed to be watching pretty intently or talking with colleagues. half the schools were probably less than an hour drive. they will be back. focus on getting better so they have a reason to come back.

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Hey genius, the organizer of the Big 12 Tourney is the head of Rock.


Explains why they had their non elite 2020 team playing and risking future participation by college coaches.

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FCA using blue team players on FCA white is normal operating procedure for them....

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FCA using blue team players on FCA white is normal operating procedure for them....


no FCA blue rostered player played in the BIG 12 tournament this past weekend.

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Caught sweetlax play rock and trust me, there were about 20 coaches on the sideline. Many on that team are apparently already committed so doesn't hurt anyone that a team like that brings in the coaches. Rock coach had many teachable moments when sweetlax was running circles around them offensively and dominating them on defense and that's a good thing. You only get better playing better teams. Tournament was for a good cause, weather was great, facilities were excellent, would like to see scores updated, and B teams can get bigger and better. Win win for everyone.


Major recruiting events are not there for teams to get better, rather they are there to showcase individual talent. For a Rock, or an FCA White to go to an event like this to "play against the best", is an example of what is causing dilution of talent at former major events. This Fall, the Big 12 essentially became Indian Summer. Sure college coaches were thrilled.


Rock organized this so of course they invited themselves. Their 2020 had a bump in talent due to a bunch of kids leaving 9 1 MD. I think this is 2nd year for this and you can see the results from last fall on tourney machine. Same level of teams this year. So the big 12 became the big 12. If coaches wasted their times they should blame themselves

There are 70 D1 teams which will have 10-15 freshman each year. That means 800+ D1 kids for the class of 2020. So the math says not all of them will come from the 10-15 considered elite 2020 teams in the fall of 2016. There are kids on teams like FCA white that have skill but haven;t grown. Others have the athletic composition but not the skills yet. Some of these kids will break thru and play D1. Others D2, D3. Some will just play in HS or maybe play club in college.

PLus they were probably there to primarily watch 2018 and 2019

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FCA using blue team players on FCA white is normal operating procedure for them....


Some of this yr fca white kids were on blue last year. Quit spreading BS

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[quote=Anonymous]FCA using blue team players on FCA white is normal operating procedure for them....

And IF it did happen, those Blue roster players were the 22nd and 23rd kids on the Blue team, who don't get much run. Seems more like good organizational management to me instead of some heinous plot to win a B team Fall tourney.....

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FCA 2020 blue kids couldn't make it - they had driver's ed.

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[quote=Anonymous]Caught sweetlax play rock and trust me, there were about 20 coaches on the sideline. Many on that team are apparently already committed so doesn't hurt anyone that a team like that brings in the coaches. Rock coach had many teachable moments when sweetlax was running circles around them offensively and dominating them on defense and that's a good thing. You only get better playing better teams. Tournament was for a good cause, weather was great, facilities were excellent, would like to see scores updated, and B teams can get bigger and better. Win win for everyone. funny sweetlax didn't do that against 89+2 on saturday
Where is the Sweetlax National team from?



They are a mix of upstate and Florida, LI fogo

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Caught sweetlax play rock and trust me, there were about 20 coaches on the sideline. Many on that team are apparently already committed so doesn't hurt anyone that a team like that brings in the coaches. Rock coach had many teachable moments when sweetlax was running circles around them offensively and dominating them on defense and that's a good thing. You only get better playing better teams. Tournament was for a good cause, weather was great, facilities were excellent, would like to see scores updated, and B teams can get bigger and better. Win win for everyone.


Major recruiting events are not there for teams to get better, rather they are there to showcase individual talent. For a Rock, or an FCA White to go to an event like this to "play against the best", is an example of what is causing dilution of talent at former major events. This Fall, the Big 12 essentially became Indian Summer. Sure college coaches were thrilled.


Rock organized this so of course they invited themselves. Their 2020 had a bump in talent due to a bunch of kids leaving 9 1 MD. I think this is 2nd year for this and you can see the results from last fall on tourney machine. Same level of teams this year. So the big 12 became the big 12. If coaches wasted their times they should blame themselves

There are 70 D1 teams which will have 10-15 freshman each year. That means 800+ D1 kids for the class of 2020. So the math says not all of them will come from the 10-15 considered elite 2020 teams in the fall of 2016. There are kids on teams like FCA white that have skill but haven;t grown. Others have the athletic composition but not the skills yet. Some of these kids will break thru and play D1. Others D2, D3. Some will just play in HS or maybe play club in college.

PLus they were probably there to primarily watch 2018 and 2019


As the original poster, my intentions were to silence critics of the tourney. Running circles isn't meant to sound negative (though does read that way). There was talent on every team and next year, these 2020 boys will all have grown and gotten better. Hearing O.J. Brigance speak was best moment for anyone that listened. I hope our team gets invited back. Kudos to Rock leadership for a top-notch tourney with MANY coaches.

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Kind of funny reading how a couple of random dads know more about lacrosse than club owners, college coaches, etc.

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[quote=Anonymous]FCA 2020 blue kids couldn't make it - they had driver's ed.

They could Uber yours to those B team tourney's.

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FCA has been bait and switching those white team kids for years, same thing will happen to this years 2020 team that happened to the 2019 last year, see ya, thanks for your dues and 3-4 years of rec level coaching and tournaments.

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FCA has been bait and switching those white team kids for years, same thing will happen to this years 2020 team that happened to the 2019 last year, see ya, thanks for your dues and 3-4 years of rec level coaching and tournaments.


I think providing an option for B+ level players make sense. FCA tries to provide an experience more than lacrosse. As for the dues comment, FCA is not in it for the money. break even at best.

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The way they screwed around 2019 white players last year was a travesty, so if their vision was to disgracefully run the team at a balanced budget, they were a great success.

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The way they screwed around 2019 white players last year was a travesty, so if their vision was to disgracefully run the team at a balanced budget, they were a great success.


what other programs have two teams at the high school level? None. for a reason. the second team wants the 1st teams experience. cant happen.

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Madlax has second teams for all ages. The 2018 and 2019 teams handle and beat most B level teams and they get invited to a way better level of tournaments because of the name on the front of the jersey.

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The way they screwed around 2019 white players last year was a travesty, so if their vision was to disgracefully run the team at a balanced budget, they were a great success.


what other programs have two teams at the high school level? None. for a reason. the second team wants the 1st teams experience. cant happen.


Madlax. They have B teams at every grade. The teams are terrible and those kids have a miserable experience. But their money is as good as the A team money, so keep it coming.

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