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I agree. The Express Karwoski team is a weak team talent-wise. Having said that, Karwoski does a good job with the team. He's a teacher and a motivator and is good with the boys.

Karwoski needs to show up. Friends kid is on the team and said he was only at two tournaments.

I do know there was a friendly scrimmage between Avalanche and The Outlaws Select or Black (Not Sure) Some of my PAL football dad's who's kids play on those teams said Outlaws were the more talented team. Thats all I know so if anyone saw the scrimmage go ahead and chime in if that was not the case.

Point is it's early fall lacrosse. These scrimmage/tournaments are a chance for coaches to see their new talent and find the gaps to build team chemistry for the spring. I can imagine that both these teams will be much better this spring/summer as will the rest of the 2021 teams. There is tremendous talent at this age, and I expect this year many of the final games will come down to the last 5 minutes.
Which 12 year olds will be the play the makers? - Who knows?

Finally some of the "Living Vicariously" dad's wont be happy unless I include this:

If I had to bet today the top ranking 2021 Long Island Teams, qualifying, and U13 Champs this summer it would be:

Summer Tournament Matchup Results:

1 Igloo Black Ice (They will lose a game this year though)
2 Icon
3 Express Channy
4 91 Orange
5 Outlaws Select
6 91 Ambush
7 Igloo Avalanche
8 Outlaws Black

Denver Qualifying Tournament Ranking/Results:

1 Icon
2 Igloo Black Ice
3 91 Orange
4 Express Channy

Denver Winner - Express Channy

Happy Holidays!!

I do know there was a friendly scrimmage between Avalanche and The Outlaws Select or Black (Not Sure) Some of my PAL football dad's who's kids play on those teams said Outlaws were the more talented team. Thats all I know so if anyone saw the scrimmage go ahead and chime in if that was not the case.

Point is it's early fall lacrosse. These scrimmage/tournaments are a chance for coaches to see their new talent and find the gaps to build team chemistry for the spring. I can imagine that both these teams will be much better this spring/summer as will the rest of the 2021 teams. There is tremendous talent at this age, and I expect this year many of the final games will come down to the last 5 minutes.
Which 12 year olds will be the play the makers? - Who knows?

Finally some of the "Living Vicariously" dad's wont be happy unless I include this:

If I had to bet today the top ranking 2021 Long Island Teams, qualifying, and U13 Champs this summer it would be:

Summer Tournament Matchup Results:

1 Igloo Black Ice (They will lose a game this year though)
2 Icon
3 Express Channy
4 91 Orange
5 Outlaws Select
6 91 Ambush
7 Igloo Avalanche
8 Outlaws Black

Denver Qualifying Tournament Ranking/Results:

1 Icon
2 Igloo Black Ice
3 91 Orange
4 Express Channy

Denver Winner - Express Channy

Happy Holidays!!

Top 8 Should have Avalanche ahead of Ambush based on Avalanche having won by a few goals over Ambush this Fall. Also Ambush tied the Saints 1-1 and Avalanche last year beat the Saints by a lot. Also should have Black Ice winning it all. The top 4 results is out of order. Should be Igloo-Express-91-Icon. (If players play on correct teams order is Igloo-Icon-91-Express).Other than that the list looks correct.

Igloo still the best even without out of state kids.

Since it was only the fall I do agree. If you want to get real silly Ambush should be above Outlaws. I did read somewhere the they beat them 2 out of three times. In my opinion that is how we should measure who is the best. Let all these teams play each other 3 times. Then a good determination can be made. Yet this is a good start. Nice Job

There will absolutely be non-LI teams that make it in my opinion. Laxachussetts Black was one of the strongest teams last summer and both Primetime and Eclipse picked up a lot of new talent this year that strengthens their teams considerably. One thing is for sure, watching the qualifiers is going to be fun.

These predictions are MY end of summer predictions and have nothing to do with who has played who already this fall or last year.


I predict that your predictions will demonstrate that you have no idea what you are writing about.

Then why did the coach allow an out of state kid to join the team - he must have felt they needed him - and probably displaced a kid that was on squad for a while. The whole notion of having an out of state kid on a youth lacrosse team is silly, but that is a different topic

Because he's probably the best 7th grader out there. I'm sure he will be back next year

kid is from outside Philadelphia and not eligible to play for them in wsyl - no way around that - and he is their best attackman by far

Philly to Syosset is 135 miles.