Nuts to leave Steps and Patriot out of that list. Both have beaten several of the teams listed plus all of the 3D teams, fl$, etc.
Raise your hand if you play for the top tier version of the aforementioned clubs and you have lost to Steps or Patriot.
I saw them both beat HHH, fl$, 3D two weeks ago. I don't know about last week. I think Patriot beat Schwalje.
Patriot is not in this conversation Last week, doubled up by Edge, tied Eclipse (who is not close to this convo) and lost by 1 to Madlax who was missing a slew of guys playing elsewhere.
I thought so...you can't lose to top teams by 7or 8 goals and think you are very good ..I can see losing by 3-5 goals because you try to make a comeback and things get a little out of control..but that's it .