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I don’t know who is worst the 91 daddy ball coach or Pay me and you play CoachC!!!!!!

91 too much for express today?

Where did they play

Connecticut

Is CoachC sick?

More dental work?

Indigestion from his 2025 team performance?

Seriously let’s hope he is well.

It’s too much fun to have him around!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is CoachC sick?

More dental work?

Indigestion from his 2025 team performance?

Seriously let’s hope he is well.

It’s too much fun to have him around!!!!!

Did he cut your kid? Or did he tell you that your kid is not very good?

How do I get my kid a tryout for 91?

easy....write a check

Originally Posted by Anonymous

easy....write a check

Is it that easy? Done.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is CoachC sick?

More dental work?

Indigestion from his 2025 team performance?

Seriously let’s hope he is well.

It’s too much fun to have him around!!!!!

Did he cut your kid? Or did he tell you that your kid is not very good?

He cut him, used his choppers!

Express was missing 4 kids due to safety concerns.

An L is a L...excuses are like Lax tuition.... they all stink!

is 91 having tryouts this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express was missing 4 kids due to safety concerns.

4 kids out of 35 shouldn't be too big a deal. You've got plenty more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express was missing 4 kids due to safety concerns.

so that left hem with about 41. wow that must have been difficult

Hahahahahahah

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express was missing 4 kids due to safety concerns.

WORST. EXCUSE. EVER.

0 and 3? That can’t be right? We’re 40 kids sick?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

0 and 3? That can’t be right? We’re 40 kids sick?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

0 and 3? That can’t be right? We’re 40 kids sick?

Wait, did they REALLY go 0-3? Who else did they play?

91 beat them8-6

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express was missing 4 kids due to safety concerns.

4 kids out of 35 shouldn't be too big a deal. You've got plenty more.

Well played Sir.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express was missing 4 kids due to safety concerns.

4 kids out of 35 shouldn't be too big a deal. You've got plenty more.

Well played Sir.

Are there 4 on age kids on the team?
Face off kid didn't make the trip from Philadelphia?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express was missing 4 kids due to safety concerns.

4 kids out of 35 shouldn't be too big a deal. You've got plenty more.

Well played Sir.

Are there 4 on age kids on the team?
Face off kid didn't make the trip from Philadelphia?

Face off kid. Did he finally repeat or just another 9th grader playing down with the PG plan? CoachC classic move.

Can we compile a list of all Long Island Teams and list by Nassau/Suffolk county? This is not for rankings you psychos. Just to provide a list to those that might be looking for a team.

Express - Suffolk
91 - Suffolk
Igloo - Nassau
True Blue - Nassau
Rebels - Suffolk
Icon - Nassau
24
FLG
Legacy
Empire
Hitmen
Bengals
Outlaws
Rush
Recon
Shore 2 Shore - Nassau
Turtles - Suffolk

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express was missing 4 kids due to safety concerns.

4 kids out of 35 shouldn't be too big a deal. You've got plenty more.

Well played Sir.

Are there 4 on age kids on the team?
Face off kid didn't make the trip from Philadelphia?

Face off kid. Did he finally repeat or just another 9th grader playing down with the PG plan? CoachC classic move.

The faceoff kid is actually a 2026, but no, he wasn't there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we compile a list of all Long Island Teams and list by Nassau/Suffolk county? This is not for rankings you psychos. Just to provide a list to those that might be looking for a team.

Express - Suffolk
91 - Suffolk
Igloo - Nassau
True Blue - Nassau
Rebels - Suffolk
Icon - Nassau
24
FLG
Legacy
Empire
Hitmen
Bengals
Outlaws
Rush
Recon
Shore 2 Shore - Nassau
Turtles - Suffolk

I resent that statement, could you please rank them next time so we may have some viral things to say. Thank You

The faceoff kid is actually a 2026, but no, he wasn't there.

That’s a fib. Kid was there for all 3 losses. Did fairly well also. The losses were not on him.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express was missing 4 kids due to safety concerns.

4 kids out of 35 shouldn't be too big a deal. You've got plenty more.

Well played Sir.

Are there 4 on age kids on the team?
Face off kid didn't make the trip from Philadelphia?

Face off kid. Did he finally repeat or just another 9th grader playing down with the PG plan? CoachC classic move.

The faceoff kid is actually a 2026, but no, he wasn't there.

The philly kid is/was a 2024. Could pass for a 2026 though

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we compile a list of all Long Island Teams and list by Nassau/Suffolk county? This is not for rankings you psychos. Just to provide a list to those that might be looking for a team.

Express - Suffolk
91 - Suffolk
Igloo - Nassau
True Blue - Nassau
Rebels - Suffolk
Icon - Nassau
24
FLG
Legacy
Empire
Hitmen
Bengals
Outlaws
Rush
Recon
Shore 2 Shore - Nassau
Turtles - Suffolk

I resent that statement, could you please rank them next time so we may have some viral things to say. Thank You

Since the majority of our kids are on 2nd teams or A teams at 2nd tier clubs. Which ones are solid? Solid means the team actually gets a positive experience, good practice, good communication, year round activities, etc. in my opinion, the list is below. The other 2nd teams or 2nd tier A teams that is not listed I have no opinion on because don’t know families from those teams.

Igloo
Express
91

CoachC rolling. Where or where is 91 Shocker?

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CoachC rolling. Where or where is 91 Shocker?

Already beat those teams! Cut it out you dope.
Will CoachC be at Laxfest?
91 will be at Channyfest!

Ducking?

Which True Blue team is in Laxfest. I thought cat was the A team, but they are in the B bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which True Blue team is in Laxfest. I thought cat was the A team, but they are in the B bracket.

True Blue is a B team. Only the players and parents believe they're an A team

GC 34 has beaten half of these joke teams

express and 91 tryouts posted. Lets go

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GC 34 has beaten half of these joke teams

When two Joke teams play I guess there usually a winner!

Not a GC parent but I wish my district was as organized and had the kids playing together all the time.
GC laughing at the rest of us on their way to the LI Finals and State every year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which True Blue team is in Laxfest. I thought cat was the A team, but they are in the B bracket.

True Blue is a B team. Only the players and parents believe they're an A team

You seem like a really nice person, your kid must be proud.

Are there any solid B team options in Nassau or West Suffolk?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any solid B team options in Nassau or West Suffolk?

Express is best B team in that area

With this “summer season” winding down this weekend who feels like their club delivered a decent summer season given the circumstances. I was pessimistic and really happy at the end of the day.

Will 91A team take any new players?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will 91A team take any new players?

If they are better than what they have, You Betcha!

They also invite kids down that they want to see. This year 91 isn’t even pretending to hide the current players from new kids. Besides the team helmets, they will be wearing their game jerseys.

Big athletes and fast, tough gritty feeders are going to be needed for all the teams over the next few years to keep up with the holdbacks. Many of the non LI teams got really big this year, ask Express. And more are coming.

So if your kid is better than all of his friends in town, give it a try. But be honest about your kid, because most of these kids are either very good or connected.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With this “summer season” winding down this weekend who feels like their club delivered a decent summer season given the circumstances. I was pessimistic and really happy at the end of the day.

I though Igloo ended up came up strong and I was pessimistic as well. IMO they made the best of a bad situation.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With this “summer season” winding down this weekend who feels like their club delivered a decent summer season given the circumstances. I was pessimistic and really happy at the end of the day.

I though Igloo ended up came up strong and I was pessimistic as well. IMO they made the best of a bad situation.

Does Igloo have the same coach?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

With this “summer season” winding down this weekend who feels like their club delivered a decent summer season given the circumstances. I was pessimistic and really happy at the end of the day.

I though Igloo ended up came up strong and I was pessimistic as well. IMO they made the best of a bad situation.

Does Igloo have the same coach?

I think the owner, AA now coaches that team, or did both times we played them this summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which True Blue team is in Laxfest. I thought cat was the A team, but they are in the B bracket.

True Blue is a B team. Only the players and parents believe they're an A team

Confirmed, they are a very good B team. Which is fine not every team has to be AA.

Clearly this is your first kid with a statement as every club does not have to be a AA team it is about your coach making calls and your son performing at showcases and prospect camps let me know how many guys CoachC places on one team at a high level .... Go back to paying for your privates .....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will 91A team take any new players?

Any and every club will take players that are equal or better than whats on the roster. You hear the BS line how it makes everyone better yet you'll have a roster of 30+ kids all paying in. Find a club that really cares about development and where you'll get enough playing time to make it matter.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Will 91A team take any new players?

Any and every club will take players that are equal or better than whats on the roster. You hear the BS line how it makes everyone better yet you'll have a roster of 30+ kids all paying in. Find a club that really cares about development and where you'll get enough playing time to make it matter.

Sorta makes sense because all teams lose players. So all clubs will add.

They all provided what they could in lieu of the current circumstances. Is traveling to PA or CT to play teams the next town over the best product they could provide?? Probably not. But they did enough so you cant ask for your $ back. In terms of this age group, which teams performed well in the summer of playdates? ? Seems like a ton of parity these days.......

Your actually correct, True Blue decided to

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which True Blue team is in Laxfest. I thought cat was the A team, but they are in the B bracket.

True Blue is a B team. Only the players and parents believe they're an A team

Confirmed, they are a very good B team. Which is fine not every team has to be AA.

You are correct this True Blue team is combined for the summer due to Covid A/B. But Seemed to handle 91 Combined AA/B players pretty well this weekend. Just saying...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your actually correct, True Blue decided to

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which True Blue team is in Laxfest. I thought cat was the A team, but they are in the B bracket.

True Blue is a B team. Only the players and parents believe they're an A team

Confirmed, they are a very good B team. Which is fine not every team has to be AA.

You are correct this True Blue team is combined for the summer due to Covid A/B. But Seemed to handle 91 Combined AA/B players pretty well this weekend. Just saying...

Yeah, but seems like 1 1/2 teams. So if your son is not in the top 22 why stay?

True Blue mediocre at Best. All of these teams are subpar and have all fallen off. Rush, True Blue, Igloo, Regulators, Rebels, Roar, etc All teh same junk with a different smell.... But as long as your kid is happy. Get him with a program that he likes and that has a good coach. Rest of it dont matter. They arent playing pro

Well said, teams seem to have leveled out, good coaching is the key from here on out until the end of HS

Problem is where is there good coaching? Express guy? I read alot of negative about him. Legacy? The guy from Igloo seems good but he dont have the horses. Rebels guy just fights with refs whole game and runs the same play..TruBlue guy just screams at Kids... Force coach? I havent seen a guy out there who can coach and still connect with the kids. They all think these kids are college players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Problem is where is there good coaching? Express guy? I read alot of negative about him. Legacy? The guy from Igloo seems good but he dont have the horses. Rebels guy just fights with refs whole game and runs the same play..TruBlue guy just screams at Kids... Force coach? I havent seen a guy out there who can coach and still connect with the kids. They all think these kids are college players.

A or B? Because yes, you want somebody that kids enjoy being coached by. I won’t name anybody, not fair anonymously, but just ask around and see who are good fits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Problem is where is there good coaching? Express guy? I read alot of negative about him. Legacy? The guy from Igloo seems good but he dont have the horses. Rebels guy just fights with refs whole game and runs the same play..TruBlue guy just screams at Kids... Force coach? I havent seen a guy out there who can coach and still connect with the kids. They all think these kids are college players.

A or B? Because yes, you want somebody that kids enjoy being coached by. I won’t name anybody, not fair anonymously, but just ask around and see who are good fits.

Turtles has great coaches and connects with the kids.

Considering bringing my son to 91. Can someone who is informed give the pros and cons?Very hard to gauge what has happened with that team

Just a comment on tryouts. The smartest teams are the ones not charging for tryouts.
Most teams are inviting back their prior team who doesnt need to tryout.
So if people decide to tryout, they know it's for minimal spots if any.
Teams that dont charge for tryouts this year, like Express, will get more people who actually come. Those who charge will probably not have a good turnout.
Just a general observation.

Force have great coaches but they don't have enough horses. They do a lot with a little...

91 has always kept a fair roster size, imo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Considering bringing my son to 91. Can someone who is informed give the pros and cons?Very hard to gauge what has happened with that team

Didn’t play a ton for the $, good roster size. Play all the kids mostly, but they ride their horses. Knowledgeable coaches, no dada with kids. Split with Express this year. Has always been an up/down team.

Looking to fill some roster spots. Need left handed middies and always looking for athleticism and a sharp stick.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Considering bringing my son to 91. Can someone who is informed give the pros and cons?Very hard to gauge what has happened with that team

Didn’t play a ton for the $, good roster size. Play all the kids mostly, but they ride their horses. Knowledgeable coaches, no dada with kids. Split with Express this year. Has always been an up/down team.

Looking to fill some roster spots. Need left handed middies and always looking for athleticism and a sharp stick.

Thank you

They are all going to charge for tryouts. The catch will be there will be little to no turnover on most teams due to pandemic . Teams have stated teams will remain intact unless a kid chooses to leave. I get emails everyday from Rebels and Legacy for Gods sake!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just a comment on tryouts. The smartest teams are the ones not charging for tryouts.
Most teams are inviting back their prior team who doesnt need to tryout.
So if people decide to tryout, they know it's for minimal spots if any.
Teams that dont charge for tryouts this year, like Express, will get more people who actually come. Those who charge will probably not have a good turnout.
Just a general observation.

Express tryouts were free and had a decent turnout yesterday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just a comment on tryouts. The smartest teams are the ones not charging for tryouts.
Most teams are inviting back their prior team who doesnt need to tryout.
So if people decide to tryout, they know it's for minimal spots if any.
Teams that dont charge for tryouts this year, like Express, will get more people who actually come. Those who charge will probably not have a good turnout.
Just a general observation.

Express tryouts were free and had a decent turnout yesterday.

Anyone with potential to make the real team or all future B teamers?

Sounds like your trying to poach from legacy and the rebels team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just a comment on tryouts. The smartest teams are the ones not charging for tryouts.
Most teams are inviting back their prior team who doesnt need to tryout.
So if people decide to tryout, they know it's for minimal spots if any.
Teams that dont charge for tryouts this year, like Express, will get more people who actually come. Those who charge will probably not have a good turnout.
Just a general observation.

Express tryouts were free and had a decent turnout yesterday.

Anyone with potential to make the real team or all future B teamers?

There were probably 3 with good talent but can't imagine they would bump first liners.

BUMP first liners do you really listen to yourself they are going into 8th grade, just a heads up as they get older they all rotate through because it is not about your tee shirt collection it is about getting your kid recruited . If you want to get recruited correctly stop chasing your tee shirts and have your kid get minutes and a coach you can trust who will put you in the right spot to shine .... GOOD LUCK !!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BUMP first liners do you really listen to yourself they are going into 8th grade, just a heads up as they get older they all rotate through because it is not about your tee shirt collection it is about getting your kid recruited . If you want to get recruited correctly stop chasing your tee shirts and have your kid get minutes and a coach you can trust who will put you in the right spot to shine .... GOOD LUCK !!!!!!!!!

Whats your point? The question was there anyone with potential to make the 30+ man real team. As if to say if you dont play on the top team you are not playing real lacrosse. That's ridiculous. The answer was a couple but if they arent getting on that first line of attack and D, they wont play unless there is a significant lead. That's the way it goes. Otherwise I agree, find the best place possible to get time on the field.

So what teams are competitive and still have good coaching? I dont care about t shirts. I care about good coaching... The coaches I have seen this summer are clueless. If any of them knew how to reach these kids they would be knocking off the "elite" teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what teams are competitive and still have good coaching? I dont care about t shirts. I care about good coaching... The coaches I have seen this summer are clueless. If any of them knew how to reach these kids they would be knocking off the "elite" teams

That's the million dollar question.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what teams are competitive and still have good coaching? I dont care about t shirts. I care about good coaching... The coaches I have seen this summer are clueless. If any of them knew how to reach these kids they would be knocking off the "elite" teams

What’s the difference evals are done for the clubs that matter, except maybe Rebels. So your question is a bit late. And what do want AA, A team at a 2nd tier club or 2nd team at a big club.

How was Igloo evals numbers today? I don’t think there be a whole lot of shifting this year.

Can someone explain to me, with all this club chatter, how is it possible that the ‘28 Smithtown team beat igloo A 10-3 and express A 15-1??? Everybody is talking about club? That’s something to talk about?? That team is has not lost a game to a town team since they’ve been together for 3 years and have beaten every club team they’ve played except ‘91 A 7-6 after beating them 2-1 in a game qualifying game? It says something about sticking with your friends?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone explain to me, with all this club chatter, how is it possible that the ‘28 Smithtown team beat igloo A 10-3 and express A 15-1??? Everybody is talking about club? That’s something to talk about?? That team is has not lost a game to a town team since they’ve been together for 3 years and have beaten every club team they’ve played except ‘91 A 7-6 after beating them 2-1 in a game qualifying game? It says something about sticking with your friends?

Are you really talking about 4th graders come back to us when they get to high school. It’s a marathon not a sprint. Also, why are you posting that on 2025.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can someone explain to me, with all this club chatter, how is it possible that the ‘28 Smithtown team beat igloo A 10-3 and express A 15-1??? Everybody is talking about club? That’s something to talk about?? That team is has not lost a game to a town team since they’ve been together for 3 years and have beaten every club team they’ve played except ‘91 A 7-6 after beating them 2-1 in a game qualifying game? It says something about sticking with your friends?

Good observation!

Good numbers at 91 today

How many of those kids are born before 2010?

How was the talent?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many of those kids are born before 2010?

Which kids?

Weak....very weak....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good numbers at 91 today

And a max of 8 kids will be offered sports between the A and B. Not a lot spots out there. Plus Force players are looking for spots.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Considering bringing my son to 91. Can someone who is informed give the pros and cons?Very hard to gauge what has happened with that team

There are a lot of positives with this team. Great/balanced coaching and a deep bench. When this team is firing on all cylinders, I don’t think anyone can beat them. But they are inconsistent. Typically a fair sized roster. Influential coaches within the overall lax community, as well. This will be a positive in a few years when it comes to recruiting.

There is some nepotism, however. Some connected kids that will always play. Also, parents can be cut throat. If your kid makes a mistake, you will feel it. But if your kid is a stud, this could be a good place for you. Hope this helped. Good luck!

Why are Force players looking for spots?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are Force players looking for spots?

I heard the club disbanded.

Viper - Nassau

Viper 2025 is a sleeper team. Coaches are great with the kids. If they get a decent goalie, they could surprise some people. Not all Bethpage kids either.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are Force players looking for spots?

Force folded

Are LIE C still top dog?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are LIE C still top dog?

I think those kids are just too small, and I don’t see it changing in the future. If they are still top dog at the moment, the tides are definitely changing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are LIE C still top dog?

I think those kids are just too small, and I don’t see it changing in the future. If they are still top dog at the moment, the tides are definitely changing.

Lost to 91 last tournament and split for the year. Unbelievably it’s last tournament was an 0-3 disaster. With Chanster under the weather will the motivation be there? Can they get their Mojo back? Not until they get bigger in the middle.

Has anyone heard from 91? Would appreciate no trolling

Anyone know of any attack spots open on a B team with a decent coach? Thanks

Rebels Red Coach is awesome.

Force didn’t fold, they just changed their name to Igloo. Absolute joke which is why ninety-one and Express will stay on top of Long Island, with Rush in 3rd. The rest need work.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from 91? Would appreciate no trolling

Yes, just heard from them this afternoon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Force didn’t fold, they just changed their name to Igloo. Absolute joke which is why ninety-one and Express will stay on top of Long Island, with Rush in 3rd. The rest need work.

Excited to see who out of Rush/Rebels/Igloo will make that jump into that top 3 with express and 91, lots of moving pieces and those 3 teams already have a nice core. Rush/Igloo tight game at blatant got cut a little early with delay rush won by 1. Rush/Rebels even game Rebels won by 2. Rebels/Igloo played an overtime game last week Igloo took it.

These are top 5 on Long Island.

AA
1.Express
2.91
3.Rush/Rebels/Igloo

Next 3
Legacy, Regulators, S2S

What’s was rebel rush score last week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Force didn’t fold, they just changed their name to Igloo. Absolute joke which is why ninety-one and Express will stay on top of Long Island, with Rush in 3rd. The rest need work.

Excited to see who out of Rush/Rebels/Igloo will make that jump into that top 3 with express and 91, lots of moving pieces and those 3 teams already have a nice core. Rush/Igloo tight game at blatant got cut a little early with delay rush won by 1. Rush/Rebels even game Rebels won by 2. Rebels/Igloo played an overtime game last week Igloo took it.

These are top 5 on Long Island.

AA
1.Express
2.91
3.Rush/Rebels/Igloo

Next 3
Legacy, Regulators, S2S

Regulators beat the top Rebels team 8-3 at laxfest last weekend.

Rush, Rebels,Igloo, Regulators and S2S can beat each other any given day. Question is who will rise to be compete with 91 and Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Force didn’t fold, they just changed their name to Igloo. Absolute joke which is why ninety-one and Express will stay on top of Long Island, with Rush in 3rd. The rest need work.

Excited to see who out of Rush/Rebels/Igloo will make that jump into that top 3 with express and 91, lots of moving pieces and those 3 teams already have a nice core. Rush/Igloo tight game at blatant got cut a little early with delay rush won by 1. Rush/Rebels even game Rebels won by 2. Rebels/Igloo played an overtime game last week Igloo took it.

These are top 5 on Long Island.

AA
1.Express
2.91
3.Rush/Rebels/Igloo

Next 3
Legacy, Regulators, S2S

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from 91? Would appreciate no trolling

Yes, just heard from them this afternoon.

darn. I guess my kid didn't make it. Now need to decide if I want to be a sheep and go to express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from 91? Would appreciate no trolling

Yes, just heard from them this afternoon.

darn. I guess my kid didn't make it. Now need to decide if I want to be a sheep and go to express.

Email or call?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from 91? Would appreciate no trolling

Yes, just heard from them this afternoon.

darn. I guess my kid didn't make it. Now need to decide if I want to be a sheep and go to express.

Email or call?

Call

91 sends e-mail invites

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 sends e-mail invites

They make phone calls....I know, we received one on Friday. I had heard that returning players received emails, so likely only new players received the phone calls.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Force didn’t fold, they just changed their name to Igloo. Absolute joke which is why ninety-one and Express will stay on top of Long Island, with Rush in 3rd. The rest need work.

Hey hammerhead, not sure where you get your information but it's wrong. Force did fold. 4 of their best players went to 91 and only 2 players went to Igloo. Now, you are correct about 91 & Express staying on top but you're are wrong about Rush being in the 3rd spot.

Another team bites the dust. So are Igloo and 91 carrying 30 kids each now? SMH..... Ring the register! Rush is #3? Stop Rebels spanked them and the Rebels are....well, the Rebels.... And until you see how teams pan out and gels in the fall tourneys, you cant say who is bes at this stage..91 has been invisible for over a year, Express is fading and every other team is watered down. Its all about H.S. ball people

you were alomost correct until you said H.S.ball is where it is at you clearly have zero idea what you are talking about

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Another team bites the dust. So are Igloo and 91 carrying 30 kids each now? SMH..... Ring the register! Rush is #3? Stop Rebels spanked them and the Rebels are....well, the Rebels.... And until you see how teams pan out and gels in the fall tourneys, you cant say who is bes at this stage..91 has been invisible for over a year, Express is fading and every other team is watered down. Its all about H.S. ball people

It’s all about HS ball!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Regulators are a pretty good team. Mostly due to the faceoff, goalie and one or two position players.

Rebels 6 - Rush 4 according to Tourney Machine

Did any club raise fees this year?

Rush, Rebels how in a couple of years are those coaches and teams getting your son recruited .....

If you have to rely on a some "Travel club" to get your kid a look then he aint that talented to begin with. If your Lil Paul Rabil is the next big thing they will find him regardless. Dont drown in the koolaid tough guy

you have zero clue in what you are talking about .... Good Luck with your Showtime bid

Its true. And even if your kid got recruited he still better get an education as he aint makin a living playing lacrosse. Its just a fact. Sorry if it deflates your aspirations but its just honesty. These clubs are for getting playing time and reps.

Thats a reality check!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Force didn’t fold, they just changed their name to Igloo. Absolute joke which is why ninety-one and Express will stay on top of Long Island, with Rush in 3rd. The rest need work.

Hey hammerhead, not sure where you get your information but it's wrong. Force did fold. 4 of their best players went to 91 and only 2 players went to Igloo. Now, you are correct about 91 & Express staying on top but you're are wrong about Rush being in the 3rd spot.

91 did not take 4 Force kids

Yes they did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Force didn’t fold, they just changed their name to Igloo. Absolute joke which is why ninety-one and Express will stay on top of Long Island, with Rush in 3rd. The rest need work.

Hey hammerhead, not sure where you get your information but it's wrong. Force did fold. 4 of their best players went to 91 and only 2 players went to Igloo. Now, you are correct about 91 & Express staying on top but you're are wrong about Rush being in the 3rd spot.

91 did not take 4 Force kids

Yes, 91 absolutely took 4 Force kids onto their A team

So now they have 30....Good luck getting playing time. But the orange helmets are cool

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Force didn’t fold, they just changed their name to Igloo. Absolute joke which is why ninety-one and Express will stay on top of Long Island, with Rush in 3rd. The rest need work.

Hey hammerhead, not sure where you get your information but it's wrong. Force did fold. 4 of their best players went to 91 and only 2 players went to Igloo. Now, you are correct about 91 & Express staying on top but you're are wrong about Rush being in the 3rd spot.

91 did not take 4 Force kids

They did. 100%.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Force didn’t fold, they just changed their name to Igloo. Absolute joke which is why ninety-one and Express will stay on top of Long Island, with Rush in 3rd. The rest need work.

Hey hammerhead, not sure where you get your information but it's wrong. Force did fold. 4 of their best players went to 91 and only 2 players went to Igloo. Now, you are correct about 91 & Express staying on top but you're are wrong about Rush being in the 3rd spot.

91 did not take 4 Force kids

They sure did. Get your facts straight before posting fake news.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes they did.

Ok. Chief. If you're the expert then who else?

Sounds like 91 and express are trying to make some $$$$$$$$$$$..... i love parents saying to people my son is on the #1 team but what they dont say is sits the bench 80% of the game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like 91 and express are trying to make some $$$$$$$$$$$..... i love parents saying to people my son is on the #1 team but what they dont say is sits the bench 80% of the game

Express got better and the gap will widen.

Hey, its their $ to spend so who cares? If thats what it takes to make Lil Johnny feel secure then who cares? More playing time for my kid....

Not sure if it's jealousy or insecurity but some of you people are pathetic. I feel bad for your sons...can’t imagine what it's like growing up in your homes

Some of the Force players were very good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the Force players were very good.

True. They had some players that any AA team would love to have.

people, the teams go A,B,C.. not AA,A,B

Originally Posted by Anonymous

people, the teams go A,B,C.. not AA,A,B

True. They had some players that any A team would love to have.

Agreed.. A B C... also 91 will be the best team.. NOT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agreed.. A B C... also 91 will be the best team.. NOT

"NOT"!?! What are you, 12 yrs old?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the Force players were very good.

True. They had some players that any AA team would love to have.

91 picked a few likely and probably cut a few. Merry go round continues. What is the chance of cut A players going the clubs B team. I’ll say zero. Parents can’t sham themselves like that’s. That’s how teams like the Rebels and Regulators are built.

It’s AAA, AA and A. And 91 AAA will be the best team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the Force players were very good.

True. They had some players that any AA team would love to have.

91 picked a few likely and probably cut a few. Merry go round continues. What is the chance of cut A players going the clubs B team. I’ll say zero. Parents can’t sham themselves like that’s. That’s how teams like the Rebels and Regulators are built.

Nobody gets cut. 91 and express figured that out long ago.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the Force players were very good.

True. They had some players that any AA team would love to have.

Pump the breaks Force dad. Your kid is just ok! he better put the work in to earn some love.

"Pump the brakes Force dad" HAAAAAA Thats awesome. They did have a few good kids. Here lays the problem:Tthose kids will all need new teams and those teams have already committed to return the full team from the "Covid season" unless a kid opts out. So you have loaded teams absorbing 2 or 3, in some cases 4 more players. 30 kids rosters? Is this college? C'mon....

These forums are so fun. Something about fathers, who had their athletic careers peak at the JV level in high school, arguing over their kids who will most likely do the same is entertaining. Like watching a train wreck. Can't wait for the machismo responses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These forums are so fun. Something about fathers, who had their athletic careers peak at the JV level in high school, arguing over their kids who will most likely do the same is entertaining. Like watching a train wreck. Can't wait for the machismo responses.

1000% this! There is no better entertainment on the internet.

Are you not entertained? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!!!!!!!! Kiddie Lax at its best right here folks....No charge!!

It's not A-B-C, or even AAA, AA, A any longer. It's now AAA Platinum Elite (Express, 91), AAA Select (Goldrush, Igloo) AAA Prime (Rebels, True Blue, Shore to Shore) and AAA Special (Legacy, Regulators, Empire). The B teams are now referred to as plain AAA (no modifier) and the C teams are AA. If your kid plays on one of the top AAA teams and not AAA or AA, then congratulations. My son? I would have him play for Express or 91, but he's good enough to play for one of the true AAAA DiamondBurstSpaceForce teams.

you guys are AAA stunands !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are all haters. My son crushed it this summer at the 2025 level...totally dominated. So worth it that we reshirted him in pre-school and reclassed him twice. Plus all the other parents love us because he has his drivers license going into 8th grade and can drive their kids to practice. The $500,000+ spent on prep schools, club teams, showcases, travel, private training will be all worth it when he gets that $3,000 partial scholarship to State U. and all you haters are paying full price.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These forums are so fun. Something about fathers, who had their athletic careers peak at the JV level in high school, arguing over their kids who will most likely do the same is entertaining. Like watching a train wreck. Can't wait for the machismo responses.

Firing Lasers! Truth.

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Express $3200 all in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are all haters. My son crushed it this summer at the 2025 level...totally dominated. So worth it that we reshirted him in pre-school and reclassed him twice. Plus all the other parents love us because he has his drivers license going into 8th grade and can drive their kids to practice. The $500,000+ spent on prep schools, club teams, showcases, travel, private training will be all worth it when he gets that $3,000 partial scholarship to State U. and all you haters are paying full price.

Which 2025 level? AAAAAA TopGun or AAAAA Alien-v-Predator?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Express $3200 all in.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Express $3200 all in.

That might be the funniest post I’ve ever seen!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Pump the brakes Force dad" HAAAAAA Thats awesome. They did have a few good kids. Here lays the problem:Tthose kids will all need new teams and those teams have already committed to return the full team from the "Covid season" unless a kid opts out. So you have loaded teams absorbing 2 or 3, in some cases 4 more players. 30 kids rosters? Is this college? C'mon....

Yep. Bloated roster at 91. We were looking for 2 spots and took 7 new kids. Roster still under 30. CoachC has to be closing in on 40. How many double Schwal holdbacks joined?

Hawks, $2,000.

thanks, hearing one club extended invites with no final pricing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Express $3200 all in.

B team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Express $3200 all in.

B team

So people pay more for A? Probably more stuff, but what’s the game time minutes to tuition ratio.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Express $3200 all in.

B team

So people pay more for A? Probably more stuff, but what’s the game time minutes to tuition ratio.

You can't look at it that way. You will always lose.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Express $3200 all in.

B team

So people pay more for A? Probably more stuff, but what’s the game time minutes to tuition ratio.

You can't look at it that way. You will always lose.

Okay, so serious question to ask. Is the value of practicing with the top team more valuable than being the best player on the 2nd team?

Yes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Express $3200 all in.

B team

So people pay more for A? Probably more stuff, but what’s the game time minutes to tuition ratio.

You can't look at it that way. You will always lose.

Okay, so serious question to ask. Is the value of practicing with the top team more valuable than being the best player on the 2nd team?

There are so many variables to this question that it’s tough to answer

If your kid has been on the A team for awhile and has seen his game time minutes shrink......it may be time to look for a different spot

If you were in B team and just got moved up to the A team then let him see what he can do. He won’t get a lot of minutes but at least he knows where he needs to be.

Bottom line is if your driving hours on end to tournaments and your kid isnt playing it will be tough.

And never waste your time on the B team of the bigger or smaller clubs. The clubs don’t care about them at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Express $3200 all in.

B team

So people pay more for A? Probably more stuff, but what’s the game time minutes to tuition ratio.

You can't look at it that way. You will always lose.

Okay, so serious question to ask. Is the value of practicing with the top team more valuable than being the best player on the 2nd team?

Don't fall for that. Go to another club where you could get the benefit of good practice and playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone know the costs for this year on the teams?

Express $3200 all in.

B team

So people pay more for A? Probably more stuff, but what’s the game time minutes to tuition ratio.

You can't look at it that way. You will always lose.

Okay, so serious question to ask. Is the value of practicing with the top team more valuable than being the best player on the 2nd team?

In my experience, there is NO substitute for playing time in games. None.

One of my kids looks great in practice. Soft hands, great handle, does tons of wall ball and can pick any spot in the cage to shoot. Great in a 1 on 1. He stinks in games. He has the lax IQ of a brick. Always in the wrong place at the wrong time. But, he plays in games on his B team - and slowly but surely he’s getting better. He wouldn’t be if he was part of the practice squad on the top team because he’d never get on the field. Knowing how to do something and being able to do it under pressure are two different things. The pressure really only exists in games. My other kid is on a top tier A team and plays a lot so I know the difference.

Parents get wrapped up in A team B team nonsense.

Lax Parent 1: “My son is on the AAAA TopGunSpaceForce Team.”

Experienced Lax Parent 2: “Wow, that’s great. Does he play?”

Lax Parent 1: “Uuuuuh, um, no. But the practices are great!”

Experienced Lax Parent 2: “Ah, yes. I’ve heard that.”

Whichever team is going to help your son get better is the A team for him. Hope that helps.

So what are the teams calling the B & C teams now? AA? AAA? Best part is tuition is prolly the same for all 3....

My son is trying out for FLG today. Does anyone have any feedback on their program (how it's run)?

FLG is a well run organization with good leadership and great coaches. Teams create great camaraderie within the group while working hard. Position practices are well run. I would recommend joining.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

FLG is a well run organization with good leadership and great coaches. Teams create great camaraderie within the group while working hard. Position practices are well run. I would recommend joining.

Thanks Mr. Director. Good luck with your tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son is trying out for FLG today. Does anyone have any feedback on their program (how it's run)?

The events are well run and they sorta never get involved with the LI drama. But they are a national program. Some Force players are rumored to be going to there after that club shuttered.

Not a Director but a parent on the club. They are very responsive and create a family environment.

Ok, some player movement the past few weeks.....who are the clubs on Long Island that improved?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Pump the brakes Force dad" HAAAAAA Thats awesome. They did have a few good kids. Here lays the problem:Tthose kids will all need new teams and those teams have already committed to return the full team from the "Covid season" unless a kid opts out. So you have loaded teams absorbing 2 or 3, in some cases 4 more players. 30 kids rosters? Is this college? C'mon....

Yep. Bloated roster at 91. We were looking for 2 spots and took 7 new kids. Roster still under 30. CoachC has to be closing in on 40. How many double Schwal holdbacks joined?

Hear the Penguin club now has a 30+ roster. Joined the likes of 91 and LIE. End of the day all these clubs want is money and chasing CoachC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, some player movement the past few weeks.....who are the clubs on Long Island that improved?

Gap probably widened between express/91 and everyone else.

Former FLG parent. I liked the program, wanted to be on a stronger team that practiced together as a team more often. I'd say it was a good experience if you were balancing lacrosse with other sports, but if you are all in for lacrosse there are other more demanding programs. Depends what you are looking for. Won't be the best team, but not all in either. They strayed away from the "no parent coaches" which was a negative for me, but most programs have parent coaches as well.

These teams are all gonna be watered down. And it comes down to coaching anyway. Which programs have the best coaching? They all look BLAH to me...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, some player movement the past few weeks.....who are the clubs on Long Island that improved?

Gap probably widened between express/91 and everyone else.

Disagree gap wider between 91 and everyone else, express definitely did not get better. You can argue they lost a lot more then gained.

91 added some good players. Not sure what express added.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ok, some player movement the past few weeks.....who are the clubs on Long Island that improved?

Gap probably widened between express/91 and everyone else.

Disagree gap wider between 91 and everyone else, express definitely did not get better. You can argue they lost a lot more then gained.

Did Express lose anyone? No one (who plays) ever leaves CoachC

These teams will all look different this year as this is/was the year the kids all hit the growth spurt. The quick, little guys will no longer be able to out-quick everyone else. All the speed and strength changed tides. The "bigger kids" are now Average sized so that childhood advantage is now moot. Get ready for a lot of surprises. People may want to put their car magnets in the glove box at this point because the hierarchy is changing.

How does USCL have Madlax > Express? no chance

Yep, sad especially when you are not picking up talent just grabbing leftovers from force because they have friends on the team. Buyer beware. 91, Express, Rush. The rest are grasping at straws. SAD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These teams will all look different this year as this is/was the year the kids all hit the growth spurt. The quick, little guys will no longer be able to out-quick everyone else. All the speed and strength changed tides. The "bigger kids" are now Average sized so that childhood advantage is now moot. Get ready for a lot of surprises. People may want to put their car magnets in the glove box at this point because the hierarchy is changing.

History doesn’t support your case! The best 4th grade teams over the years were also the best HS teams on Long Island. Now step away from Long Island, yes the scales do balance, especially with the National teams. But the LI teams “hierarchy” remains a constant.

2020 - Crush best from day 1
2021- Blaze and Black Ice best on LI since 3rd grade
2022- Express, 91, and Igloo best since 3rd grade
2023- 91 and Express since 2nd grade
2024- 91
2025 - Express and 91
2026 - Express and 91 etc etc etc

Rush got beat by the Rebels (without the Rebs 9th graders) and had to hold on for dear life against the Regulators, who had 18 kids on the team. A couple of teams lost their best players, where they wind up may tip the balance a bit. I know 91 added top kids from at least 3 different programs. Don't be surprised if 91 pulls away from Express, and Express winds up in the Rush-Rebels-Regulators morass of mediocrity.

How about CoachC lost a bunch of games this summer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does USCL have Madlax > Express? no chance

Madlax and us club lax affiliated. Ranking is rigged to make Madlax look good.

RUSH is mediocre at best. Same with Rebels. Neither play team ball. They have 1 or 2 kids that the offense runs thru and everyone on field knows it. Best teams spread the ball around and have multiple threats. Problem is the coaches...they cant see it. They still try to call out every move. "Good time" Really? Just get a megaphone a tell the entire tournament you want your kid to go to the cage. SMH. Let the kids play. Coach them in practice and then have faith in your system. Let them be lacrosse players, no drones. Until a team does that they will all be 1 trick pony's!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 added some good players. Not sure what express added.

This is absolutely not a slight on the players, but I can't see the 4 kids they added from Force moving the needle on that team and gaining ground on Express. If those 4 kids were difference makers, Force would have been a much more competitive team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How about CoachC lost a bunch of games this summer

Who did they lose to ? Scores? Changing rankings based on this shortened covid summer sounds silly.

Express got beat all summer by bigger teams. PrimeTime blew right down the field on them. The Express parents on the sidelines after that performance were a lot like the Hillary voters in November, 2016 - wait, what just happened?? We're leaving when the parking lot is still full?? Some kids will hit their growth spurts this year while others will grow later. Depending on the timing, that might mean Express continues to struggle this year. Not that Express won't wind up back on top, but anyone thinking that the transition from best 5th grade team to best 10th grade team is a seamless one may be disappointed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does USCL have Madlax > Express? no chance

Madlax and us club lax affiliated. Ranking is rigged to make Madlax look good.

Express lost (10-5 to Primetime) vs. Madlax going a clean 12-0 this summer...advantage Madlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does USCL have Madlax > Express? no chance

Madlax and us club lax affiliated. Ranking is rigged to make Madlax look good.

How are they affiliated?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 added some good players. Not sure what express added.

This is absolutely not a slight on the players, but I can't see the 4 kids they added from Force moving the needle on that team and gaining ground on Express. If those 4 kids were difference makers, Force would have been a much more competitive team.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Force beat every top-level team on the Island for the exception of 91 & Express who they never played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got beat all summer by bigger teams. PrimeTime blew right down the field on them. The Express parents on the sidelines after that performance were a lot like the Hillary voters in November, 2016 - wait, what just happened?? We're leaving when the parking lot is still full?? Some kids will hit their growth spurts this year while others will grow later. Depending on the timing, that might mean Express continues to struggle this year. Not that Express won't wind up back on top, but anyone thinking that the transition from best 5th grade team to best 10th grade team is a seamless one may be disappointed.

Prime Time historically has a lot of CT prep school (either actual or aspiring) holdbacks. Don't know about the 2025 team in particular but it wouldn't surprise me if they were older than Express in a meaningful way, at a time in development when that makes a difference.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does USCL have Madlax > Express? no chance

Who cares? It’s 8th grade lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 added some good players. Not sure what express added.

This is absolutely not a slight on the players, but I can't see the 4 kids they added from Force moving the needle on that team and gaining ground on Express. If those 4 kids were difference makers, Force would have been a much more competitive team.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Force beat every top-level team on the Island for the exception of 91 & Express who they never played.

Stop it. Not. A. Chance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How does USCL have Madlax > Express? no chance

Madlax and us club lax affiliated. Ranking is rigged to make Madlax look good.

Express lost (10-5 to Primetime) vs. Madlax going a clean 12-0 this summer...advantage Madlax

Express split with 91 and they didn’t even get into the top 100!!!!!! Hehehe

Over the last 2 years Force has beaten rush, igloo, rebels, shore 2 shore, and regulators. They have also lost to some of those teams as well. They had solid starters but depth was a issue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over the last 2 years Force has beaten rush, igloo, rebels, shore 2 shore, and regulators. They have also lost to some of those teams as well. They had solid starters but depth was a issue.

Stop it silly, those boys will barely play. They just are not that good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Over the last 2 years Force has beaten rush, igloo, rebels, shore 2 shore, and regulators. They have also lost to some of those teams as well. They had solid starters but depth was a issue.

Stop it silly, those boys will barely play. They just are not that good.

They're good enough to make some extra cha-ching for 91

No one is talking about how many kids CoachC carries anymore. He's smart enough to set the model once again that all clubs are following. Load up those teams boys! Make dat money.

the kids from other teams were just more $ to the directors and less playing time to the other 25 kids on the roster

My son tried out for 24 this week. What do you guys know about that program and its coaches? On paper the coaching staff looks good. And said they won some local tournaments last year.

If you live out east, I would look into Empire before 24. 24 doesn’t play in any meaningful tournaments.

We have done the Empire tryout (we are definitely East) but the 2025 team isn’t great. Apparently 24 beats them at all the tournaments they are in together.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son tried out for 24 this week. What do you guys know about that program and its coaches? On paper the coaching staff looks good. And said they won some local tournaments last year.

Good value, second tier club. Most of these coaches can coach, it’s about the commitment to practice. Not a criticism, but they cxld their whole summer and did the right thing I heard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son tried out for 24 this week. What do you guys know about that program and its coaches? On paper the coaching staff looks good. And said they won some local tournaments last year.

Good value, second tier club. Most of these coaches can coach, it’s about the commitment to practice. Not a criticism, but they cxld their whole summer and did the right thing I heard.

Thank you. This is the kind of insight I was hoping for. I'm okay with them not doing tournaments this summer. Doens't seem worth it at this age, honestly.

that is great that you are the best every year can you do one thing and look at where the kids went to college and what club i think if you look into that you will be very surprised and by the way who cares that you are the best it is about your son getting into College

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son tried out for 24 this week. What do you guys know about that program and its coaches? On paper the coaching staff looks good. And said they won some local tournaments last year.

Good value, second tier club. Most of these coaches can coach, it’s about the commitment to practice. Not a criticism, but they cxld their whole summer and did the right thing I heard.

Thank you. This is the kind of insight I was hoping for. I'm okay with them not doing tournaments this summer. Doens't seem worth it at this age, honestly.

Actually -- what do you mean by "it's about the commitment to practice"? Do they not practice? Or not often?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son tried out for 24 this week. What do you guys know about that program and its coaches? On paper the coaching staff looks good. And said they won some local tournaments last year.

Good value, second tier club. Most of these coaches can coach, it’s about the commitment to practice. Not a criticism, but they cxld their whole summer and did the right thing I heard.

Thank you. This is the kind of insight I was hoping for. I'm okay with them not doing tournaments this summer. Doens't seem worth it at this age, honestly.

Actually -- what do you mean by "it's about the commitment to practice"? Do they not practice? Or not often?

What that means is that some teams practice the minimum and in turn so the minimum.

What do the people on this forum consider the minimum for practices?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do the people on this forum consider the minimum for practices?

depends on the level/cost of the team IMO...high level ie 91 and LIE 2x per week during fall, 1x during winter, 2-3x during spring/summer.

They will all practice enough in the Fall to ensure they wont have to refund you again if/when they cxl due to COVID....

Drop everything - i got me 11th email from Hitmen looking for a goalie. Where can we sign up?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Drop everything - i got me 11th email from Hitmen looking for a goalie. Where can we sign up?

I think this a sign of saturation. So many clubs have come and gone, merged or been absorbed in the last 2-5 years that I can recall, I am sure there are a few more.. There is only so many players.

Force
TLI
Bluefish
Knights
Jesters boys teams
Dune Dogs
Riptide
Rough Riders
Mamas Boys
Stampede

Big time saturation.... They have sold all on the hype machine. Worst part is all of these clubs are grossly mis-managed. If any of these guys knew how to run a business they would prosper but they dont so you see what happens.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big time saturation.... They have sold all on the hype machine. Worst part is all of these clubs are grossly mis-managed. If any of these guys knew how to run a business they would prosper but they dont so you see what happens.....

Fact is not every kid or parent belongs on Express, Igloo, 91 or Rebels. Does that mean the others need to go out of business? Probably not... but, the lack of professionalism and attention to running the club is so apparent when it is not run as a full time business. After being at both upper tier and lower tier clubs... i can tell you that the 2nd tier clubs are exactly what you pay for. Parents don't prioritize, the practices get canceled... etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big time saturation.... They have sold all on the hype machine. Worst part is all of these clubs are grossly mis-managed. If any of these guys knew how to run a business they would prosper but they dont so you see what happens.....

Fact is not every kid or parent belongs on Express, Igloo, 91 or Rebels. Does that mean the others need to go out of business? Probably not... but, the lack of professionalism and attention to running the club is so apparent when it is not run as a full time business. After being at both upper tier and lower tier clubs... i can tell you that the 2nd tier clubs are exactly what you pay for. Parents don't prioritize, the practices get canceled... etc.

Its funny that you list the rebels and igloo alongside Express and 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big time saturation.... They have sold all on the hype machine. Worst part is all of these clubs are grossly mis-managed. If any of these guys knew how to run a business they would prosper but they dont so you see what happens.....

Fact is not every kid or parent belongs on Express, Igloo, 91 or Rebels. Does that mean the others need to go out of business? Probably not... but, the lack of professionalism and attention to running the club is so apparent when it is not run as a full time business. After being at both upper tier and lower tier clubs... i can tell you that the 2nd tier clubs are exactly what you pay for. Parents don't prioritize, the practices get canceled... etc.

Its funny that you list the rebels and igloo alongside Express and 91.

Actually this year it’s funny you list express, rebels and igloo next to 91.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big time saturation.... They have sold all on the hype machine. Worst part is all of these clubs are grossly mis-managed. If any of these guys knew how to run a business they would prosper but they dont so you see what happens.....

Fact is not every kid or parent belongs on Express, Igloo, 91 or Rebels. Does that mean the others need to go out of business? Probably not... but, the lack of professionalism and attention to running the club is so apparent when it is not run as a full time business. After being at both upper tier and lower tier clubs... i can tell you that the 2nd tier clubs are exactly what you pay for. Parents don't prioritize, the practices get canceled... etc.

Its funny that you list the rebels and igloo alongside Express and 91.

Actually this year it’s funny you list express, rebels and igloo next to 91.

What about true blue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Big time saturation.... They have sold all on the hype machine. Worst part is all of these clubs are grossly mis-managed. If any of these guys knew how to run a business they would prosper but they dont so you see what happens.....

Fact is not every kid or parent belongs on Express, Igloo, 91 or Rebels. Does that mean the others need to go out of business? Probably not... but, the lack of professionalism and attention to running the club is so apparent when it is not run as a full time business. After being at both upper tier and lower tier clubs... i can tell you that the 2nd tier clubs are exactly what you pay for. Parents don't prioritize, the practices get canceled... etc.

Side note - Igloo and Rebels aren't even in the same stratosphere as 91 & Express.

Rebels were losing to Express last year 9-0 in the third quarter when the game was canceled because the Rebels coach got tossed for screaming like a lunatic on the sidelines. Pretty embarrassing, but it did serve to stop the beat-down that was taking place. And that was the Rebels team with the 2024s and the kid who took the ferry from Connecticut to be there. Imagine what would have happened if it was the Rebels legitimate team. It's Express and 91 at the top and then a big jumble of teams, any one of which can beat the other on any given day. Anyone who's watched the AAAAA DiamondBurstSpaceForce travel lacrosse teams over the past two years knows that's the truth.

Who cares about your teams rank all that matters is your kid is getting better . Here is a good one to look at not every kid is going to a top Div 1 school so pump the brakes Dad and just sit your lawn chair and shut your mouth be happy your son is on the field having fun . UNC and Duke will find your son if he is that good

detest to Agree but its Express and 91 (at least at the end of the Covid Summer it was) With some of the additions Igloo and Rebels made, if any, maybe that gap shrinks? I doubt it but who knows. But until proven otherwise, Force-Gloo and these other clubs are all the same. Mediocity at its worst.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

detest to Agree but its Express and 91 (at least at the end of the Covid Summer it was) With some of the additions Igloo and Rebels made, if any, maybe that gap shrinks? I doubt it but who knows. But until proven otherwise, Force-Gloo and these other clubs are all the same. Mediocity at its worst.....

Express and 91. Then the rest. That's just the fact. Doesn't mean we cant enjoy watching our kids play the game. Some of you people need serious help.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

detest to Agree but its Express and 91 (at least at the end of the Covid Summer it was) With some of the additions Igloo and Rebels made, if any, maybe that gap shrinks? I doubt it but who knows. But until proven otherwise, Force-Gloo and these other clubs are all the same. Mediocity at its worst.....

I prefer MIgloo

anyone have any info on the Hornets? I'm thinking of having my son tryout for them

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone have any info on the Hornets? I'm thinking of having my son tryout for them

Reach out to 91 or to the coaches. From what I've hear they took 4 or 5 new kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone have any info on the Hornets? I'm thinking of having my son tryout for them

Don’t waste your time with 2nd team of big clubs.

They don’t care about the B team. They will be put in garbage tournaments run by 91

These teams have huge turnover every year. Numbers will always be a problems with these teams. 26 B team barely had enough. 28 b team, kids played in 2 tourneys and had no kids. 28 A team played in 5. 27 b team 7-8 kids just left. You get the point

Stay far away from 91 B teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone have any info on the Hornets? I'm thinking of having my son tryout for them

Don’t waste your time with 2nd team of big clubs.

They don’t care about the B team. They will be put in garbage tournaments run by 91

These teams have huge turnover every year. Numbers will always be a problems with these teams. 26 B team barely had enough. 28 b team, kids played in 2 tourneys and had no kids. 28 A team played in 5. 27 b team 7-8 kids just left. You get the point

Stay far away from 91 B teams.

So it’s easy to say big clubs don’t care about B teams. And some do and some don’t. But the it’s also parents that sign their kid up club and they play other travel sports and treat it like rec. I am not saying don’t play more sports, I am saying don’t play multiple travel teams. It happens on these teams and practice suffers and then the part time kids show up game day. On A teams this is the primary sport, on B teams it’s 50/50 sometimes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone have any info on the Hornets? I'm thinking of having my son tryout for them

Don’t waste your time with 2nd team of big clubs.

They don’t care about the B team. They will be put in garbage tournaments run by 91

These teams have huge turnover every year. Numbers will always be a problems with these teams. 26 B team barely had enough. 28 b team, kids played in 2 tourneys and had no kids. 28 A team played in 5. 27 b team 7-8 kids just left. You get the point

Stay far away from 91 B teams.

Another ridiculous statement from a Botc troll. I’m familiar with four 91 B teams. They are all very serious about their team and considered good to very good. The fact is, most players will never play on an A team, and 91 B teams are a very good option for them. Beware of trolls that claim to be experts on everything. A sure fire tell tale of a clueless troll.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone have any info on the Hornets? I'm thinking of having my son tryout for them

Don’t waste your time with 2nd team of big clubs.

They don’t care about the B team. They will be put in garbage tournaments run by 91

These teams have huge turnover every year. Numbers will always be a problems with these teams. 26 B team barely had enough. 28 b team, kids played in 2 tourneys and had no kids. 28 A team played in 5. 27 b team 7-8 kids just left. You get the point

Stay far away from 91 B teams.

So it’s easy to say big clubs don’t care about B teams. And some do and some don’t. But the it’s also parents that sign their kid up club and they play other travel sports and treat it like rec. I am not saying don’t play more sports, I am saying don’t play multiple travel teams. It happens on these teams and practice suffers and then the part time kids show up game day. On A teams this is the primary sport, on B teams it’s 50/50 sometimes.

Fair point. But I could easily counter that the clubs put no effort into these teams. You will see the A team with 6 coaches and the B team with 1-2. The B team coach will cancel practice all the time. The A team coach will have it 2x a week. As a result the better players on these B teams will often leave and go elsewhere. This results in a roster that changes a lot every year. As a result you have low numbers. They then take players from the A team and ask them to play and help out. Only problem with this is when the A team has another tournament your pretty much screwed. You then wind up playing with 14 kids at a tournament and get crushed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone have any info on the Hornets? I'm thinking of having my son tryout for them

Don’t waste your time with 2nd team of big clubs.

They don’t care about the B team. They will be put in garbage tournaments run by 91

These teams have huge turnover every year. Numbers will always be a problems with these teams. 26 B team barely had enough. 28 b team, kids played in 2 tourneys and had no kids. 28 A team played in 5. 27 b team 7-8 kids just left. You get the point

Stay far away from 91 B teams.

So it’s easy to say big clubs don’t care about B teams. And some do and some don’t. But the it’s also parents that sign their kid up club and they play other travel sports and treat it like rec. I am not saying don’t play more sports, I am saying don’t play multiple travel teams. It happens on these teams and practice suffers and then the part time kids show up game day. On A teams this is the primary sport, on B teams it’s 50/50 sometimes.

Fair point. But I could easily counter that the clubs put no effort into these teams. You will see the A team with 6 coaches and the B team with 1-2. The B team coach will cancel practice all the time. The A team coach will have it 2x a week. As a result the better players on these B teams will often leave and go elsewhere. This results in a roster that changes a lot every year. As a result you have low numbers. They then take players from the A team and ask them to play and help out. Only problem with this is when the A team has another tournament your pretty much screwed. You then wind up playing with 14 kids at a tournament and get crushed

So I can tell you as a parent, that the Hornets have a full roster, have 4 experienced coaches and played in 5 events over the summer and 2 or 3 in the fall. They added 5 strong players from tryouts and we will be a solid team. They practice all fall, train throughout the winter and practiced weekly over the summer. I’m not saying we are the best but we are competitive and the team gets a lot of practice and training.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone have any info on the Hornets? I'm thinking of having my son tryout for them

Don’t waste your time with 2nd team of big clubs.

They don’t care about the B team. They will be put in garbage tournaments run by 91

These teams have huge turnover every year. Numbers will always be a problems with these teams. 26 B team barely had enough. 28 b team, kids played in 2 tourneys and had no kids. 28 A team played in 5. 27 b team 7-8 kids just left. You get the point

Stay far away from 91 B teams.

Another ridiculous statement from a Botc troll. I’m familiar with four 91 B teams. They are all very serious about their team and considered good to very good. The fact is, most players will never play on an A team, and 91 B teams are a very good option for them. Beware of trolls that claim to be experts on everything. A sure fire tell tale of a clueless troll.

Everything I said was true. What 4 91 B teams are you familiar with? Please enlighten me on the ones that take it serious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

anyone have any info on the Hornets? I'm thinking of having my son tryout for them

I know several strong players that went to them. They should be competitive in B brackets.

Are there any Nassau county teams looking for attack?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any Nassau county teams looking for attack?

They all are if your kid could really play. If he's average then may be tough this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any Nassau county teams looking for attack?

They all are if your kid could really play. If he's average then may be tough this year.

Hitmen

Igloo, looking for attack, must be able to shoot and you’re in

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any Nassau county teams looking for attack?

Every team looking to add 5-6 players to make up for their $$ losses last season. Oh wait, they didn't lose a dime but still padded the rosters to line their pockets. NOT one club is concerned about development. The minute you slip they'll replace you or hold your spot and add 3 more kids. They're all just in it for the money.

Great...That will bring the roster to 35!! A bargain at $4000. What happened to the coach's kid?

Lacrosse clubs, like everyone else in business, are "in it for the money". That's how the world works, Comrade Sanders. Except for you - you go to work every week, and when your boss goes to pay you on Friday, you say "no thanks! I'm not in this for the money. I put in all my time and effort and spend time away from my family because the tooth fairy pays all my bills".

the 2024 fo kid is Griff Meyer. He is disgustingly good. Best 25 player in the country. He didn't lose one faceoff to a 2025 all summer and had about 20 goals for 91 MD. He isn't playing for 25 CoachC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the 2024 fo kid is Griff Meyer. He is disgustingly good. Best 25 player in the country. He didn't lose one faceoff to a 2025 all summer and had about 20 goals for 91 MD. He isn't playing for 25 CoachC.

Did this Meyer kid reclass already to a 2025? Saw he played last years WSYL as a 2024... is he 2024 age group, or was he already playing up last year and actually 2025 age?

who cares? this season will be another debotchery and filled with empty promises, no rebates and dopey parents

Blast/AAA/Shock continuing their annual dance of ignoring CoachC and crew once again. Their big shot director/coach specifically instructed the directors not to play against the boys. He won't even let them play Regulators. I get it. You're parents are insane and will think the sky is falling if theres an early season loss, but then at least tell them what's going on so they stop chirping.

What’s going on with 91 shock ? How many kids at practice every Sunday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s going on with 91 shock ? How many kids at practice every Sunday

28 on the roster. 20-22 at practice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the 2024 fo kid is Griff Meyer. He is disgustingly good. Best 25 player in the country. He didn't lose one faceoff to a 2025 all summer and had about 20 goals for 91 MD. He isn't playing for 25 CoachC.

Did this Meyer kid reclass already to a 2025? Saw he played last years WSYL as a 2024... is he 2024 age group, or was he already playing up last year and actually 2025 age?

A kids name should NEVER be written on here

Regulators haven’t earned a shot at the champs. And last head to head went 91s way. Stop stirring the pot hater

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Blast/AAA/Shock continuing their annual dance of ignoring CoachC and crew once again. Their big shot director/coach specifically instructed the directors not to play against the boys. He won't even let them play Regulators. I get it. You're parents are insane and will think the sky is falling if theres an early season loss, but then at least tell them what's going on so they stop chirping.

#letthemplay

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators haven’t earned a shot at the champs. And last head to head went 91s way. Stop stirring the pot hater

But clearly Legacy has?

2025 won't be playing anyone even decent . 2026 is staying home . And their beloved dream team 2027 machine won't be "playing up". The ship is sinking, trying to save the brand lol

I guess the director is teaching them how to " dodge " lol

Isn’t there a championship game? They will play there

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators haven’t earned a shot at the champs. And last head to head went 91s way. Stop stirring the pot hater

But clearly Legacy has?

At this point, yes. Regulators aren't worthy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the 2024 fo kid is Griff Meyer. He is disgustingly good. Best 25 player in the country. He didn't lose one faceoff to a 2025 all summer and had about 20 goals for 91 MD. He isn't playing for 25 CoachC.

Did this Meyer kid reclass already to a 2025? Saw he played last years WSYL as a 2024... is he 2024 age group, or was he already playing up last year and actually 2025 age?

A kids name should NEVER be written on here

100%

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators haven’t earned a shot at the champs. And last head to head went 91s way. Stop stirring the pot hater

Aren't the Regulators mostly made up of the CSH town team that beat Blast at Laxfest?

Just for the record , 91 2025 team actually lost the to the CSH roar (town only ) team at a tournament. And yes , regulators is mostly CSH kids but they are a true travel team with a tryout that brought in players from all over long island . So it's understandable of the director is choosing to dodge them as well as express 2025 who has their way with them as well .

Regulators: Middle of road team, like the rest of them. Parity is the name of the game in 2025

If there is so much parity in 2025 why is 91 hiding ? Go play the regulators and express then you could talk about parity all you want .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators haven’t earned a shot at the champs. And last head to head went 91s way. Stop stirring the pot hater

Earned a shot at the champs??? Lol! I said Blast, not Express!! Blast has proven only one thing over the years and that is that they can lose to anyone. Express is undefeated at NLF tourneys since they started. Those are the top teams in the country. Blast loses to town teams annually. Everyone should have a shot at them.

91 has been invisible the past yr... Express fell apart and a lot of kids bailed so we will see what they look like soon. Teams like Regulators are average at best. They are the Rebels with shiny Gold Helmets instead of shiny red helmets. Same product...different color... All these teams: Igloo, RUSH, Regulators, Tru Blu....all ther same and on any given day can beat each other. Fact

Express fell apart ? Number 2 in the country . Yup , fell apart .

Have to love the brainless 91 dads. Express fell apart? Hahaha,keep dreaming 91 dad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]t

A kids name should NEVER be written on here

100%

Then you geniuses need to stop quoting the original post... or delete the part of the quote with the name, see how difficult that was.

91 2025's hiding in the basement with Joe Biden lol

Yes, fell apart as in getting beat down at all the summer tourneys.... Plus they had a ton of defections to other teams. As for the rankings...Seriously bro? US Lacrosse? Get real ...... I dont know how they rank but when you see teams like Igloo, etc in their rankings? You know its a flawed system....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 has been invisible the past yr... Express fell apart and a lot of kids bailed so we will see what they look like soon. Teams like Regulators are average at best. They are the Rebels with shiny Gold Helmets instead of shiny red helmets. Same product...different color... All these teams: Igloo, RUSH, Regulators, Tru Blu....all ther same and on any given day can beat each other. Fact

Express kids bailed? Starters? I don't think so.

91 dads drinking too much again lol

Wow! Holy holdbacks and reclassed kids this year!! Heard Express picked up another 3 2024 kids?!?!

“Reclassed” lmao

To the very bright 91 dad living in fantasy land.....if express kids left (which they didn't ) where did they go . 91 loses to town teams so that's not a better option and all the other teams are middle of the road , so where exactly did they go in this fantasy you're living in ? Please enlighten us . Go talk it over with your team hiding in the basement then let us know .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Holy holdbacks and reclassed kids this year!! Heard Express picked up another 3 2024 kids?!?!

“Reclassed” lmao

Didn't the only "reclassed" kid on Express go to 91?

Gotta love the 91 dad conspiracy’s theories and outright fantasies . Happens all the time when they don’t have a good team, Excuses , excuses and just outright lies . Really sad

They just changed the schedule on tourney app. 91 is now starting off against Pride, then the Manhasset Math-letes, and they finish up against Girl Scout Troop #128. 91 Schlock.

Hahaha....Hiden Biden 2025 91 team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Holy holdbacks and reclassed kids this year!! Heard Express picked up another 3 2024 kids?!?!

“Reclassed” lmao

Went 0-3 and lost to 91 last time they played. CoachC has to do something.

My money is on the Mixed Nuts.

The point spreads on DraftKings if 91 played the following LI teams this Fall:
Express +1.5
Igloo +6
Regulators +5
Rush +4
True Blue +7
Rebels +6.5
Legacy +5
Recon +12
S2S +4.5

PLACE YOUR BETS!

Watch one of the middle of the road teams go undefeated and turn the 2025 world upside down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Holy holdbacks and reclassed kids this year!! Heard Express picked up another 3 2024 kids?!?!

“Reclassed” lmao

Didn't the only "reclassed" kid on Express go to 91?

The "only" reclassed kid. You haven't seen the couple of CoachS guys yet obviously. There are 05 bdays on that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Holy holdbacks and reclassed kids this year!! Heard Express picked up another 3 2024 kids?!?!

“Reclassed” lmao

Didn't the only "reclassed" kid on Express go to 91?

The "only" reclassed kid. You haven't seen the couple of CoachS guys yet obviously. There are 05 bdays on that team.

He left but they picked up 3-4 more “reclassed” 2024s. No shame!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Holy holdbacks and reclassed kids this year!! Heard Express picked up another 3 2024 kids?!?!

“Reclassed” lmao

Didn't the only "reclassed" kid on Express go to 91?

The "only" reclassed kid. You haven't seen the couple of CoachS guys yet obviously. There are 05 bdays on that team.

Simply untrue

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Holy holdbacks and reclassed kids this year!! Heard Express picked up another 3 2024 kids?!?!

“Reclassed” lmao

Didn't the only "reclassed" kid on Express go to 91?

The "only" reclassed kid. You haven't seen the couple of CoachS guys yet obviously. There are 05 bdays on that team.

Welcome to the grade holdbacks really start to show up and CoachC will grab every one he can get.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My money is on the Mixed Nuts.

High Pitch Eric and Fat Bald Guy were the coaches of the year in 2017

Town teams! That's really all that needs to be said.

If 91 Schlock was such a favorite, they would be playing those teams. But they're not. Which shows two things about 91. The 91 directors are worried that losing early season games to Express or the Cold Spring Harbor Regulators would result in parents jumping ship to those teams, and the 91 directors actually believe that the Schlock could lose to them. Which says a lot about the true condition of that team, always looking over their shoulders, the little brother to Big Brother Express. So they set themselves up against Leading Edge, Legacy and the one decent team they couldn't dodge, Igloo.

Exactly.....and brainless still hasn't answered the question. He said that express fell apart and a lot of kids left lol. But hasn't answered the question " where did they go genius ". 91 loses to town teams so they didn't to there and according to you every other team is middle of the road . So I ask again if express fell apart ( your fantasy ) where did they go.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow! Holy holdbacks and reclassed kids this year!! Heard Express picked up another 3 2024 kids?!?!

“Reclassed” lmao

Didn't the only "reclassed" kid on Express go to 91?

The "only" reclassed kid. You haven't seen the couple of CoachS guys yet obviously. There are 05 bdays on that team.

Welcome to the grade holdbacks really start to show up and CoachC will grab every one he can get.

91 Wolfpack and Bandits are more than 50% holdbacks. Blast will be the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If 91 Schlock was such a favorite, they would be playing those teams. But they're not. Which shows two things about 91. The 91 directors are worried that losing early season games to Express or the Cold Spring Harbor Regulators would result in parents jumping ship to those teams, and the 91 directors actually believe that the Schlock could lose to them. Which says a lot about the true condition of that team, always looking over their shoulders, the little brother to Big Brother Express. So they set themselves up against Leading Edge, Legacy and the one decent team they couldn't dodge, Igloo.

Igloo, lol.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If 91 Schlock was such a favorite, they would be playing those teams. But they're not. Which shows two things about 91. The 91 directors are worried that losing early season games to Express or the Cold Spring Harbor Regulators would result in parents jumping ship to those teams, and the 91 directors actually believe that the Schlock could lose to them. Which says a lot about the true condition of that team, always looking over their shoulders, the little brother to Big Brother Express. So they set themselves up against Leading Edge, Legacy and the one decent team they couldn't dodge, Igloo.

Look, I have no skin in this game but do you stunands actually think 91 is dodging certain teams? If so, I feel sorry for you.

It's a fact. Sad but true

Holdbacks. What do we do with them?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If 91 Schlock was such a favorite, they would be playing those teams. But they're not. Which shows two things about 91. The 91 directors are worried that losing early season games to Express or the Cold Spring Harbor Regulators would result in parents jumping ship to those teams, and the 91 directors actually believe that the Schlock could lose to them. Which says a lot about the true condition of that team, always looking over their shoulders, the little brother to Big Brother Express. So they set themselves up against Leading Edge, Legacy and the one decent team they couldn't dodge, Igloo.

Look, I have no skin in this game but do you stunands actually think 91 is dodging certain teams? If so, I feel sorry for you.

Yes, they absolutely are. Let's not forget that at the end of the day all of this is a BUSINESS for 91, Express and almost all others. There is a benefit to keeping the parents and kids undefeated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The point spreads on DraftKings if 91 played the following LI teams this Fall:
Express +1.5
Igloo +6
Regulators +5
Rush +4
True Blue +7
Rebels +6.5
Legacy +5
Recon +12
S2S +4.5

PLACE YOUR BETS!

Lol. Hilarious and fairly accurate.

Hey regulations dad, 91 might be ducking Express and you can be sure Chanster is ok with it, but your sons team isn’t good enough to get ducked. So let us know how the registrations wipe the floor with every other team they play this weekend before you start chirping. Until then, the irregulars are irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If 91 Schlock was such a favorite, they would be playing those teams. But they're not. Which shows two things about 91. The 91 directors are worried that losing early season games to Express or the Cold Spring Harbor Regulators would result in parents jumping ship to those teams, and the 91 directors actually believe that the Schlock could lose to them. Which says a lot about the true condition of that team, always looking over their shoulders, the little brother to Big Brother Express. So they set themselves up against Leading Edge, Legacy and the one decent team they couldn't dodge, Igloo.

Look, I have no skin in this game but do you stunands actually think 91 is dodging certain teams? If so, I feel sorry for you.

It sounds insane, but it happens every tournament at every age group. Especially if the tourney is run by Mylacrossetournaments, which is run by Dynamic Sports, which is 91's mothership. Losing early in the season causes too much grief and headaches for the coaches and directors, particularly with 2025 (whatever it is they call themselves now).

My bet is THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS.. As in the Directors...They took your money and all of these kids will be working 9-5 in 4 yrs....Silly Rabbits.....Tricks are for kids!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My bet is THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS.. As in the Directors...They took your money and all of these kids will be working 9-5 in 4 yrs....Silly Rabbits.....Tricks are for kids!

Settle down, Captain Crunch. In 4 years they'll be starting their senior year of high school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey regulations dad, 91 might be ducking Express and you can be sure Chanster is ok with it, but your sons team isn’t good enough to get ducked. So let us know how the registrations wipe the floor with every other team they play this weekend before you start chirping. Until then, the irregulars are irrelevant.

Incoherent ramblings of a high school dropout.

And still playing the same level of Lax..thanks for your donations!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey regulations dad, 91 might be ducking Express and you can be sure Chanster is ok with it, but your sons team isn’t good enough to get ducked. So let us know how the registrations wipe the floor with every other team they play this weekend before you start chirping. Until then, the irregulars are irrelevant.

Incoherent ramblings of a high school dropout.

Rugulations forever!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If 91 Schlock was such a favorite, they would be playing those teams. But they're not. Which shows two things about 91. The 91 directors are worried that losing early season games to Express or the Cold Spring Harbor Regulators would result in parents jumping ship to those teams, and the 91 directors actually believe that the Schlock could lose to them. Which says a lot about the true condition of that team, always looking over their shoulders, the little brother to Big Brother Express. So they set themselves up against Leading Edge, Legacy and the one decent team they couldn't dodge, Igloo.

It's Schlong, not Schlock. Please get it right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If 91 Schlock was such a favorite, they would be playing those teams. But they're not. Which shows two things about 91. The 91 directors are worried that losing early season games to Express or the Cold Spring Harbor Regulators would result in parents jumping ship to those teams, and the 91 directors actually believe that the Schlock could lose to them. Which says a lot about the true condition of that team, always looking over their shoulders, the little brother to Big Brother Express. So they set themselves up against Leading Edge, Legacy and the one decent team they couldn't dodge, Igloo.

It's Schlong, not Schlock. Please get it right.

So Regulators beat Igloo and Igloo ties Schlong. What does that tell you?

The results are in .....CoachC 2025 blew out every team they played today while 91 dodgers aka schlong weren't able to dodge igloo and tied. Meanwhile the regulatorsanaged to beat that same exact team that schlong tied. So 91 dad you were saying ? Have to hand it to the directors , great move dodging CoachC 2025 and regulators . Have to admit bi the end of today at least 5 91 kids would have been looking to leave after they got their butts handed to them by CoachC and possibly regulators.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If 91 Schlock was such a favorite, they would be playing those teams. But they're not. Which shows two things about 91. The 91 directors are worried that losing early season games to Express or the Cold Spring Harbor Regulators would result in parents jumping ship to those teams, and the 91 directors actually believe that the Schlock could lose to them. Which says a lot about the true condition of that team, always looking over their shoulders, the little brother to Big Brother Express. So they set themselves up against Leading Edge, Legacy and the one decent team they couldn't dodge, Igloo.

Look, I have no skin in this game but do you stunands actually think 91 is dodging certain teams? If so, I feel sorry for you.

It's a MyLacrosseMafia tournament. 91 sets the schedule. Of course they're dodging. Duh.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If 91 Schlock was such a favorite, they would be playing those teams. But they're not. Which shows two things about 91. The 91 directors are worried that losing early season games to Express or the Cold Spring Harbor Regulators would result in parents jumping ship to those teams, and the 91 directors actually believe that the Schlock could lose to them. Which says a lot about the true condition of that team, always looking over their shoulders, the little brother to Big Brother Express. So they set themselves up against Leading Edge, Legacy and the one decent team they couldn't dodge, Igloo.

It's Schlong, not Schlock. Please get it right.

So Regulators beat Igloo and Igloo ties Schlong. What does that tell you?

And 91 beat Express the last time they played so Rugulations are better than Express and everyone else.

We all know it doesn’t work that way. But enjoy your moment in the sun Registration daddy.

So 91 beat Legacy 12-2 . CoachC beat them 12-3.

So 91 is better than Express? stunad logic of Regulator Daddy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The results are in .....CoachC 2025 blew out every team they played today while 91 dodgers aka schlong weren't able to dodge igloo and tied. Meanwhile the regulatorsanaged to beat that same exact team that schlong tied. So 91 dad you were saying ? Have to hand it to the directors , great move dodging CoachC 2025 and regulators . Have to admit bi the end of today at least 5 91 kids would have been looking to leave after they got their butts handed to them by CoachC and possibly regulators.

Lot of kids riding the pine on Schlong today. Parents were chirping already and it was in the first game! Gonna be a loooong season.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So 91 beat Legacy 12-2 . CoachC beat them 12-3.

So 91 is better than Express? stunad logic of Regulator Daddy.

The difference is that Coach C played boys 20-30 on his roster to beat them.

How many 91 kids on the bench today

It's hard to argue with brainless 91 dads .just stop hiding and come and play . Yoy want to talk about how 91 beat express one time why don't we talk about how 91 lost to CSH roar also ? A town team . You're a brainless fool

Express smoked everyone today and you're still talking ? You're a fool . The only team they didnt beat today was 91 , oh right because they were hiding . Hiden Biden team 91 2025. We know you control the brackets so why the hiding ? Go back to elementary school and learn your ABC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express smoked everyone today and you're still talking ? You're a fool . The only team they didnt beat today was 91 , oh right because they were hiding . Hiden Biden team 91 2025. We know you control the brackets so why the hiding ? Go back to elementary school and learn your ABC

Come and get it. With that non organization.

Columbus Day is a Legacy Event. Beg the Zummos for a shot at the champs. Then you can try your best to beg Chanster get into the NAL event in DE. But that event is for the better teams, not the Regular ones.

That team still has some major work to do buddy. Major work.

Anybody see 91? Tied igloo lol. Wow. Go back to the basement and hide

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anybody see 91? Tied igloo lol. Wow. Go back to the basement and hide

There’s nothing wrong with finishing the tourney in 3rd place. Don’t give the Schlong dads a complex.

Igloo lost to Regulators, and Igloo tied 91. Now you know why 91 has been hiding for the past year. The team simply isn't that good. After this weekend, it looks like this:

1 Express
2 Regulators

then in no particular order:

Igloo
91

and then everyone else

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo lost to Regulators, and Igloo tied 91. Now you know why 91 has been hiding for the past year. The team simply isn't that good. After this weekend, it looks like this:

1 Express
2 Regulators

then in no particular order:

Igloo
91

and then everyone else

That’s hilarious, the Arugulators are second. Back off the pipe daddy.

Regulators, please stop. Travel off of Long Island then re-seed yourselves. Express North, 2Way, Prime Time. Nice layup in you 3rd game on Saturday. And you want to talk about psycho dads, they were pacing the sidelines like their lives depended on the win lose ratio from this play day. stunads screaming at every call. Sad. 91, Expess, Rush will bring you back to earth, don’t run and hide now. See ya soon.

91 Shock is 91's B team. The Blast is 91's A team, and the Blast didn't tie Igloo on Saturday. That was 91 Shock.

See the above post where the guy said it was complete parity. Its true. Exp may still be the best of bunch but the rest? 91 is ok but no where near as good as their reputation suggests. Igloo? Seriously? You see their offense? Or lack there-of? Cmon... Regulators are consistent but not top shelf. Rebels? Stop.... 1 trick pony. The out of state teams would wipe the floor with all of them except Exp and even that's debatable

Shock, the feeling experienced by 91 parents when they lose or tie, again, to teams they thought they would blowout. It's a good name.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Shock is 91's B team. The Blast is 91's A team, and the Blast didn't tie Igloo on Saturday. That was 91 Shock.

Uuuuuummmm, First of all, their name is Schlong. They haven’t been Blast since everyone started calling them Blastards and the parents complained to the coaches. Then they named themselves AAA or AA or MADD or something like that. Now they changed that because everyone realized it was a terrible name when you lose to A teams, B teams, twin teams, etc. Now they are Schlong. Get it straight. Now they have to put igloo on the list of teams to duck.

91 tied Igloo? Does 91 still have an A team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See the above post where the guy said it was complete parity. Its true. Exp may still be the best of bunch but the rest? 91 is ok but no where near as good as their reputation suggests. Igloo? Seriously? You see their offense? Or lack there-of? Cmon... Regulators are consistent but not top shelf. Rebels? Stop.... 1 trick pony. The out of state teams would wipe the floor with all of them except Exp and even that's debatable

Curious, what is the 1 trick Rebels have? Thought they were building someting solid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See the above post where the guy said it was complete parity. Its true. Exp may still be the best of bunch but the rest? 91 is ok but no where near as good as their reputation suggests. Igloo? Seriously? You see their offense? Or lack there-of? Cmon... Regulators are consistent but not top shelf. Rebels? Stop.... 1 trick pony. The out of state teams would wipe the floor with all of them except Exp and even that's debatable

Curious, what is the 1 trick Rebels have? Thought they were building someting solid.

I've heard the same. Curious what that one trick is. A single player? I guess?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See the above post where the guy said it was complete parity. Its true. Exp may still be the best of bunch but the rest? 91 is ok but no where near as good as their reputation suggests. Igloo? Seriously? You see their offense? Or lack there-of? Cmon... Regulators are consistent but not top shelf. Rebels? Stop.... 1 trick pony. The out of state teams would wipe the floor with all of them except Exp and even that's debatable

Curious, what is the 1 trick Rebels have? Thought they were building someting solid.

I've heard the same. Curious what that one trick is. A single player? I guess?

They lost to Regulators a few weeks ago.

Go look at the 91 website brainless. It’s shock and hornets. That’s it. So yes, it was shock that tied igloos and yes that is their A team . I was there and I know a parent with a kid on that team . So relax and accept the fact that the A team is mediocre.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

See the above post where the guy said it was complete parity. Its true. Exp may still be the best of bunch but the rest? 91 is ok but no where near as good as their reputation suggests. Igloo? Seriously? You see their offense? Or lack there-of? Cmon... Regulators are consistent but not top shelf. Rebels? Stop.... 1 trick pony. The out of state teams would wipe the floor with all of them except Exp and even that's debatable

Curious, what is the 1 trick Rebels have? Thought they were building someting solid.

I've heard the same. Curious what that one trick is. A single player? I guess?

No - 1 trick pony refers to them only being able to do one thing well. They're one dimensional. It has nothing to do with a specific player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go look at the 91 website brainless. It’s shock and hornets. That’s it. So yes, it was shock that tied igloos and yes that is their A team . I was there and I know a parent with a kid on that team . So relax and accept the fact that the A team is mediocre.

I thought it was their AA team 😂😂😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go look at the 91 website brainless. It’s shock and hornets. That’s it. So yes, it was shock that tied igloos and yes that is their A team . I was there and I know a parent with a kid on that team . So relax and accept the fact that the A team is mediocre.

I thought it was their AA team 😂😂😂

Chillax Igloo parent. Don't be salty because you lost to a town team CSH-Regs, oh wait you're a town team too, Harborfields. Accept the fact the fat little man only cares about being CoachC and that ain't gonna happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many 91 kids on the bench today

Almost as many as Migloo.
Thanks parents for driving down to have your kids stand on the sideline all day for 8th grade lacrosse. Wake up people, if you allow it to happen you're part of the problem. Its the great covid coverup. All the teams added more kids to make up for losses that never happened.

They give the ball to 1 kid and everyone knows it. Poorly designed offense thats fooling nobody. Smart teams lock that off and .......game over!

Force, Harborfields, Syosset.. Call it what you want... An L is a L.....the little man dont own Igloo..Regulators do!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They give the ball to 1 kid and everyone knows it. Poorly designed offense thats fooling nobody. Smart teams lock that off and .......game over!

91 you're talking about, right? Those days of one kid running the show are done. They are going to have a hard time this year. Maybe share it with the 29 other kids on the team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go look at the 91 website brainless. It’s shock and hornets. That’s it. So yes, it was shock that tied igloos and yes that is their A team . I was there and I know a parent with a kid on that team . So relax and accept the fact that the A team is mediocre.

I thought it was their AA team 😂😂😂

Chillax Igloo parent. Don't be salty because you lost to a town team CSH-Regs, oh wait you're a town team too, Harborfields. Accept the fact the fat little man only cares about being CoachC and that ain't gonna happen.

CSH-Regs beat 91 a year ago, too. I'm thinking Schlong is a lot closer to Igloo than it is Express. And one below Regulators.

So 91 just giving the ball to one kid and that’s it?

in some cases it is give the ball to 1 kid... And nobody is fooled. Bad lacrosse

is 91 MD any good?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Go look at the 91 website brainless. It’s shock and hornets. That’s it. So yes, it was shock that tied igloos and yes that is their A team . I was there and I know a parent with a kid on that team . So relax and accept the fact that the A team is mediocre.

I thought it was their AA team 😂😂😂

Chillax Igloo parent. Don't be salty because you lost to a town team CSH-Regs, oh wait you're a town team too, Harborfields. Accept the fact the fat little man only cares about being CoachC and that ain't gonna happen.

CSH-Regs beat 91 a year ago, too. I'm thinking Schlong is a lot closer to Igloo than it is Express. And one below Regulators.

This is not serious thought right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators haven’t earned a shot at the champs. And last head to head went 91s way. Stop stirring the pot hater

So CSH beat 91. Regulators beat Igloo. 91 tied Igloo. It seems like 91 should have to beat Igloo to earn their shot at Regulators.

Even worse ...it wasn't the regulators ( which has some outside CSH through tryouts ) it was the CSH town team that beat schlong. A true town team beat them . Sad .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators haven’t earned a shot at the champs. And last head to head went 91s way. Stop stirring the pot hater

So CSH beat 91. Regulators beat Igloo. 91 tied Igloo. It seems like 91 should have to beat Igloo to earn their shot at Regulators.

True. You need to beat everyone if you want to be the #1 contender. Schlong is clearly not there yet. Regulators have to be considered the top contender at this point.

Get over it. 91 lost to CSH over a year ago. That team has a lot of strong players. Who is the one kid who ALWAYS gets the ball? Jersey # please. Because it is complete BS. That team is pretty deep.

91 dad why don't you guys take a break from tournaments and stay home and scrimmage igloo until you can handle them . Then rejoin the tournaments so you don't continue to embarrass yourselves

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators haven’t earned a shot at the champs. And last head to head went 91s way. Stop stirring the pot hater

So CSH beat 91. Regulators beat Igloo. 91 tied Igloo. It seems like 91 should have to beat Igloo to earn their shot at Regulators.

True. You need to beat everyone if you want to be the #1 contender. Schlong is clearly not there yet. Regulators have to be considered the top contender at this point.

Nope, doesn’t work that way. Regulations are still just a wannabe team. beat Express yet? Didn’t think so. Beat 91 no.

But 91 beat Express in August. That’s a fact.

So until your team beats one of them, you are still just little yapping puppies looking to get noticed by the big dogs. Sit boy, sit!

Does 91 run a middi or attack centric offense? Aren’t all the coaches well respected non daddy ball coaches

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators haven’t earned a shot at the champs. And last head to head went 91s way. Stop stirring the pot hater

So CSH beat 91. Regulators beat Igloo. 91 tied Igloo. It seems like 91 should have to beat Igloo to earn their shot at Regulators.

True. You need to beat everyone if you want to be the #1 contender. Schlong is clearly not there yet. Regulators have to be considered the top contender at this point.

Nope, doesn’t work that way. Regulations are still just a wannabe team. beat Express yet? Didn’t think so. Beat 91 no.

But 91 beat Express in August. That’s a fact.

So until your team beats one of them, you are still just little yapping puppies looking to get noticed by the big dogs. Sit boy, sit!

Like Igloo?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 91 run a middi or attack centric offense? Aren’t all the coaches well respected non daddy ball coaches

The head coach is a director who cares more about watching his kids in the fall and spring. The rest are daddys. and the offense revolves around whether the big kid has to play attack or middie.

91 lost to a town team , tied igloo last week and now hides ....not sure how a 91 dad still had the nerve to come on here and talk tough with a team that bad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 91 run a middi or attack centric offense? Aren’t all the coaches well respected non daddy ball coaches

The head coach is a director who cares more about watching his kids in the fall and spring. The rest are daddys. and the offense revolves around whether the big kid has to play attack or middie.

The Director, doesn’t want to be there. He does only enough to keep everyone paying tuition. Very disappointing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does 91 run a middi or attack centric offense? Aren’t all the coaches well respected non daddy ball coaches

The head coach is a director who cares more about watching his kids in the fall and spring. The rest are daddys. and the offense revolves around whether the big kid has to play attack or middie.

You do not play for this team. Give it up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 lost to a town team , tied igloo last week and now hides ....not sure how a 91 dad still had the nerve to come on here and talk tough with a team that bad

Sit Puppy, Sit

Wow. This is 13 year old lacrosse correct? You guys make swim moms and hockey dads look sane.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. This is 13 year old lacrosse correct? You guys make swim moms and hockey dads look sane.

truer words have never been spoken

A lot of rambling on this board. Let me clear up for everyone:

Regulators/ CSH...Decent team. Not elite so stop embarassing yourself. They are just like Rebels with gold helmets, not Red ones. They can play with most teams but aren't consistent and they certainly are not dominant. A popular theme amongst teams in this age group.

91: Hopefully they appear at more tourneys this fall so everyone can get a real assessment. They did tie Igloo and put up only 2 goals.... Not a good sign as ForceGloo is mediocre at best and they played their back up goalie.

Anything else I can help with?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of rambling on this board. Let me clear up for everyone:

Regulators/ CSH...Decent team. Not elite so stop embarassing yourself. They are just like Rebels with gold helmets, not Red ones. They can play with most teams but aren't consistent and they certainly are not dominant. A popular theme amongst teams in this age group.

91: Hopefully they appear at more tourneys this fall so
everyone can get a real assessment. They did tie Igloo and put up only 2 goals.... Not a good sign as ForceGloo is mediocre at best and they played their back up goalie.

Anything else I can help with?

3 goals baby!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of rambling on this board. Let me clear up for everyone:

Regulators/ CSH...Decent team. Not elite so stop embarassing yourself. They are just like Rebels with gold helmets, not Red ones. They can play with most teams but aren't consistent and they certainly are not dominant. A popular theme amongst teams in this age group.

91: Hopefully they appear at more tourneys this fall so everyone can get a real assessment. They did tie Igloo and put up only 2 goals.... Not a good sign as ForceGloo is mediocre at best and they played their back up goalie.

Anything else I can help with?

Yes, can you post some pictures of the swim moms. Thanks.

Forcegloo and Rebs duking it out Saturday for the last playoff spot in WSYL, lol. Stay tuned for some exciting u14 lacrosse. If you qualify for WSYL does that make you the winner or lost? Who will be more upset if they lose, the Penguin or Screamer? Maybe they'll both agree and add 10 more kids to each roster.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Forcegloo and Rebs duking it out Saturday for the last playoff spot in WSYL, lol. Stay tuned for some exciting u14 lacrosse. If you qualify for WSYL does that make you the winner or lost? Who will be more upset if they lose, the Penguin or Screamer? Maybe they'll both agree and add 10 more kids to each roster.

This whole grade level is a bunch of suckers if they go to the WSYL. Its over. Let the 26's go. No need to line any more pockets. Our boys should be concentrating on school ball at this point. Most of the skilled or big kids will be playing JV, the most skilled will be on Varsity, and practicing every day with their school teams. That's why the WSYL is a U13 tournament. But some of you will continue to think it means something.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow. This is 13 year old lacrosse correct? You guys make swim moms and hockey dads look sane.

truer words have never been spoken

Absolutely not. Have you spent time around swim parents or clubs? They make the Madlax troll look like, well a troll, but you get what Im saying.

Battle of the tiny Titans! Ill call it 3-2 in either direction. They may be recruiting for their B, C, D and F teams in the parking lot. I cant believe they even have a WSYL...that ship has sailed..move on. And its in DC this year. At least you don't have to board a plane if your unfortunate enough to qualify, which neither of these teams will...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

A lot of rambling on this board. Let me clear up for everyone:

Regulators/ CSH...Decent team. Not elite so stop embarassing yourself. They are just like Rebels with gold helmets, not Red ones. They can play with most teams but aren't consistent and they certainly are not dominant. A popular theme amongst teams in this age group.

91: Hopefully they appear at more tourneys this fall so everyone can get a real assessment. They did tie Igloo and put up only 2 goals.... Not a good sign as ForceGloo is mediocre at best and they played their back up goalie.

Anything else I can help with?

Yes, can you post some pictures of the swim moms. Thanks.

Lololol!

Mediocre lacrosse at best. Too many clubs, none of the teams are elite. LIE stays best in class everyone else is a notch WAY below. Stop chasing the Chanster and hope your kids develops and continues on to HS.

Club Director;
I'd love to give you a refund but I never got my tournament fees or coaches salaries back. Last year I lost money so I can't give you a refund. Tell ya what, I'll keep the tuition the same and give you a hundred dollar credit.

Parent;
Really what money did you actually lose

Director; You know, um, a lot

Parent;
Wait, so tuition is the same, I'm not getting a helmet or uniform, I get to travel to a covid state to qualify for WSYL combined 14u and 13u, oh and you added 10 kids to the roster. Yes, sign me up.

Now that is spot on....Isnt it a law that you must get a new helmet evry 2 years?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now that is spot on....Isnt it a law that you must get a new helmet evry 2 years?

91 gets a helmet every time they get a new coach or a new name. Pretty much every season.

Good weekend coming up. Express v. 91, along with Prime Time, BBL Black, Rebels, Igloo, Legacy and Rush. Nice preview for April.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good weekend coming up. Express v. 91, along with Prime Time, BBL Black, Rebels, Igloo, Legacy and Rush. Nice preview for April.

Looks like the Rugulations are ducking the big boys. Maybe they can play the turtles.

The Regulators can't play in the tournament because all of their players first teams are playing.

1st real evaluation of these teams comes this weekend.... The LI teams will get spanked except for Exp

Goes without saying but 91 has a lot to prove this weekend.

Regulators, mount up, we’re heading south to Mexico, can’t play the big boys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators, mount up, we’re heading south to Mexico, can’t play the big boys.

This is all hysterical. Do you really think teams are afraid and hide? Regulators played Express and Igloo like last week 91 is a waste of time. (See Igloo scroes) and would have gladly played them i they weren't afraid of the CSH players that beat them already.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators, mount up, we’re heading south to Mexico, can’t play the big boys.

Hilarious lol

Everyone been crying for 91...Now you got 'em...Cant wait to read this board on Monday....

91 will go 1-2, losing to both Express and Prime Time. It’s a good thing 91 isn’t playing Regulators as well, because a loss to them would results in everyone jumping ship from 91, and that would make express even more unbeatable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 will go 1-2, losing to both Express and Prime Time. It’s a good thing 91 isn’t playing Regulators as well, because a loss to them would results in everyone jumping ship from 91, and that would make express even more unbeatable.

Don’t be surprised if that schedule changes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 will go 1-2, losing to both Express and Prime Time. It’s a good thing 91 isn’t playing Regulators as well, because a loss to them would results in everyone jumping ship from 91, and that would make express even more unbeatable.

Express, Primetime then Express North.

91 parents will be on suicide watch by 5 PM.

91 can't hide in this tournament because it's not a "mylollipop tournament" that they run

Shore to Shore is another that lost to Ragulators last night.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 can't hide in this tournament because it's not a "mylollipop tournament" that they run

So dense. If they were ducking anyone then why would they even sign up for a tournament they didn’t control.

They have played every good team out there. Anyone who says anything different is just a dope. Looks like the sheriff woodies are the pretenders. Hiding with their plastic badges all alone behind the tumbleweed.

Stop with S2S........ My kid's PAL team would wipe the field with them

I guess all the kids on 91 and Express are going to UNC and Duke , you guys have zero clue how this all works . Please look back at this when your kid is on the bench and the sideline has all coaches there, let me know how you feel about your great team and coach then . It is not about T shirts it is about getting better and playing this is the last year to make a move to a Coach that will get your son recruited

So aside from express and 91. What programs are people actually happy with? Good coaching, Fair playing time etc ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So aside from express and 91. What programs are people actually happy with? Good coaching, Fair playing time etc ?

The sheriff woodies are great, except they aren’t a real organization, but they can get you a plastic Sheriff badge.

The Regulators are really good team being coached by an excellent coach. Anyone who says differently doesn't know what they're talking about. The reason I wouldn't have my son play for them, however, is they're not an organization, just a team, and if that coach decides his son is going to play somewhere else, the whole thing dissolves in the blink of an eye. Which may happen anyway, since most (not all) of the top talent on that team play for another organization. Do you really want to put all your eggs in that basket? The Regulators are a nice side gig, but if that's the only place you have your son lined up to play, he's not getting the same amount of coaching as the kids playing for 91, Express, Legacy, S2S, Rush etc. That's just the truth, regardless of how talented JT is. Another poster up top mentioned that this is the last year to move your son to an organization that will help him get recruited. Now with Covid decimating high school sports, the relationships you build with your travel organization are more important than ever, as it might be the only place your son gets actual exposure to college coaches. Do your research, take a look at who actually gets kids into colleges and who doesn't, and make the wise decision. It's not about team wins, it's about your son's individual development path, and placing him with an organization that cares enough about him personally to give him playing time, which = development time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Regulators are a nice side gig, but if that's the only place you have your son lined up to play, he's not getting the same amount of coaching as the kids playing for 91, Express, Legacy, S2S, Rush etc.

Agree with all but this line. Regulators practice as much, if not more than the others. And would argue that the coaching is much better. They also charge less than half of ALL the others.

Holy long post batman...YAAAAAWN!!!! All of these teams are the same slop. Face it. The only return on your investment is if your kid is happy and you like gaudy team apparel that you pay extra for.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 can't hide in this tournament because it's not a "mylollipop tournament" that they run

So dense. If they were ducking anyone then why would they even sign up for a tournament they didn’t control.

They have played every good team out there. Anyone who says anything different is just a dope. Looks like the sheriff woodies are the pretenders. Hiding with their plastic badges all alone behind the tumbleweed.

91 absolutely ducks the top teams. That’s why they only play Express once or twice a year. Outside of the NLF, which they have to play in, they only sign up for 1 fall and 1 summer tourney that Express and other top teams are in. In those tournies they need to make the playoffs to face Express and for them, playoffs are hit or miss.

If their coaching is so great why then do they still run pick plays when the defense is in a zone. Their kids are setting picks for phantoms. Their head coach coached at the professional level and he can’t recognize a zone defense. That is how town teams beat them.

Mixed nuts will kick the heck out of Regulators and they they never practice and their daddy coaches are amateurs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 can't hide in this tournament because it's not a "mylollipop tournament" that they run

So dense. If they were ducking anyone then why would they even sign up for a tournament they didn’t control.

They have played every good team out there. Anyone who says anything different is just a dope. Looks like the sheriff woodies are the pretenders. Hiding with their plastic badges all alone behind the tumbleweed.

91 absolutely ducks the top teams. That’s why they only play Express once or twice a year. Outside of the NLF, which they have to play in, they only sign up for 1 fall and 1 summer tourney that Express and other top teams are in. In those tournies they need to make the playoffs to face Express and for them, playoffs are hit or miss.

If their coaching is so great why then do they still run pick plays when the defense is in a zone. Their kids are setting picks for phantoms. Their head coach coached at the professional level and he can’t recognize a zone defense. That is how town teams beat them.

So are they ducking everyone or just the town teams? Regulators only? Well I guess it doesn’t matter because the directors got god on the line and ordered up a rainstorm. Those guys are so hooked up it’s unbelievable.

Excellent Joint Practice today with 91 and Rebels.
6V6 Thought 91 looked good. 45 min scrimmage not sure of score tied or one goal game.
Then some man up/down.
Day for coaches to teach and thought it went well
Rebel Parent, and thanks 91 for the day.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 can't hide in this tournament because it's not a "mylollipop tournament" that they run

So dense. If they were ducking anyone then why would they even sign up for a tournament they didn’t control.

They have played every good team out there. Anyone who says anything different is just a dope. Looks like the sheriff woodies are the pretenders. Hiding with their plastic badges all alone behind the tumbleweed.

91 absolutely ducks the top teams. That’s why they only play Express once or twice a year. Outside of the NLF, which they have to play in, they only sign up for 1 fall and 1 summer tourney that Express and other top teams are in. In those tournies they need to make the playoffs to face Express and for them, playoffs are hit or miss.

If their coaching is so great why then do they still run pick plays when the defense is in a zone. Their kids are setting picks for phantoms. Their head coach coached at the professional level and he can’t recognize a zone defense. That is how town teams beat them.

It is because they don’t care. They do less tournaments because it’s less work and parents still pay so why should they do more?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Excellent Joint Practice today with 91 and Rebels.
6V6 Thought 91 looked good. 45 min scrimmage not sure of score tied or one goal game.
Then some man up/down.
Day for coaches to teach and thought it went well
Rebel Parent, and thanks 91 for the day.

Thought 91 Looked good --- score tied or one goal game? How is that 91 looking good? 91 is supposed to be one of the best. Not on par with Rebels who beats nobody!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Excellent Joint Practice today with 91 and Rebels.
6V6 Thought 91 looked good. 45 min scrimmage not sure of score tied or one goal game.
Then some man up/down.
Day for coaches to teach and thought it went well
Rebel Parent, and thanks 91 for the day.

Thought 91 Looked good --- score tied or one goal game? How is that 91 looking good? 91 is supposed to be one of the best. Not on par with Rebels who beats nobody!

Here we go....it’s so obvious this is a post and reply by same pot stirrer. Get over it. It wasn’t close.

That "Scrimmage" was hard to judge. When they actually scrimmaged it was pretty even. A 91 parent also said they have about 4/5 kids that reclassed ... and still got whooped on physically. 91 is now in Lax purgatory along with Rebels, Regulators, Rush, Igloo, etc. On any given day..... Yet to see Exp Ch this season but right now, until proven different, they are the cream of the crop.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That "Scrimmage" was hard to judge. When they actually scrimmaged it was pretty even. A 91 parent also said they have about 4/5 kids that reclassed ... and still got whooped on physically. 91 is now in Lax purgatory along with Rebels, Regulators, Rush, Igloo, etc. On any given day..... Yet to see Exp Ch this season but right now, until proven different, they are the cream of the crop.

Nobody keeps score for a scrimmage...That’s a fact.

I’m generally a 91 hater and I have no doubt there would be at least a 5 goal difference in a real game with Rebels. The Red helmets wouldn’t be able to keep up. Maybe for a few minutes or even a half, after that, no way.

I dunno. That 91 team looked rattled and more interested in fighting and cheap shotting than playing actual lacrosse. I think they would split with the red helmets on any given day and thats only because that team is inconsistent (thats on the coaching) The myth of 91 is fading fast. They even changed their helmets and look more like Force. And unfortunately the results are the same. 91 is now in the mud with the rest of the pigs. Welcome to mediocrity 91 parents!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I dunno. That 91 team looked rattled and more interested in fighting and cheap shotting than playing actual lacrosse. I think they would split with the red helmets on any given day and thats only because that team is inconsistent (thats on the coaching) The myth of 91 is fading fast. They even changed their helmets and look more like Force. And unfortunately the results are the same. 91 is now in the mud with the rest of the pigs. Welcome to mediocrity 91 parents!!!

Are you saying as a rebel parent that your squad is mediocre? hilarious.

Yep.... Why make it something it isnt? All 91 parents should follow in those footsteps. You will be a lot happier when you realize 14 yr old lax isnt a life defining moment and that telling your kid(s) they are something they are NOT isnt beneficial.. Ill say it again: All of these teams are on par with each other on LI.....except Exp...and that's TBD after someone sees them play this fall... Now put 2 sugars in my coffee and bring it to the next beatdown you guys attend... Anyone else?

Does this clown think that his kids team is really that good or sumthin? He prolly drives a hundai and thinks it is a Ferrari...Wake up dopey

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yep.... Why make it something it isnt? All 91 parents should follow in those footsteps. You will be a lot happier when you realize 14 yr old lax isnt a life defining moment and that telling your kid(s) they are something they are NOT isnt beneficial.. Ill say it again: All of these teams are on par with each other on LI.....except Exp...and that's TBD after someone sees them play this fall... Now put 2 sugars in my coffee and bring it to the next beatdown you guys attend... Anyone else?

rebels continue to fade and come on here trying to include themselves in the discussion of who is in the top group behind express. Stop trying to make your sons team relevant. They are not and nobody cares. Outside your sideline nobody thinks or talks about your team. Irrelevant.

Hey guy, that’s your problem. You said it yourself. Normal people don’t care about other 13 year old boys teams that their kid doesn’t play on. If you are concerning yourself with other little kids teams, maybe you need to find yourself a hobby.

With the talent on 91, they should be domination their opponents but that's not happening. This leads me to believe it's clearly a coaching issue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Excellent Joint Practice today with 91 and Rebels.
6V6 Thought 91 looked good. 45 min scrimmage not sure of score tied or one goal game.
Then some man up/down.
Day for coaches to teach and thought it went well
Rebel Parent, and thanks 91 for the day.

Thought 91 Looked good --- score tied or one goal game? How is that 91 looking good? 91 is supposed to be one of the best. Not on par with Rebels who beats nobody!

Waits until you play da best secret in lax Team Ten we gonna mop up 2025 this year

Stop with that BS.... they are middle of the road. Classic case of having the best 9 yr olds at one point. But now that all the other kids caught up, they are ordinary at best. But it is amusing listening to the lax-4-life parents trying to talk their kids up like they are PLL superstars. Face the music folks....it is what it is...everyone can see it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Excellent Joint Practice today with 91 and Rebels.
6V6 Thought 91 looked good. 45 min scrimmage not sure of score tied or one goal game.
Then some man up/down.
Day for coaches to teach and thought it went well
Rebel Parent, and thanks 91 for the day.

Thought 91 Looked good --- score tied or one goal game? How is that 91 looking good? 91 is supposed to be one of the best. Not on par with Rebels who beats nobody!

Waits until you play da best secret in lax Team Ten we gonna mop up 2025 this year

Should have started with Express....oh wait, you tried, and lost.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Excellent Joint Practice today with 91 and Rebels.
6V6 Thought 91 looked good. 45 min scrimmage not sure of score tied or one goal game.
Then some man up/down.
Day for coaches to teach and thought it went well
Rebel Parent, and thanks 91 for the day.

Thought 91 Looked good --- score tied or one goal game? How is that 91 looking good? 91 is supposed to be one of the best. Not on par with Rebels who beats nobody!

Waits until you play da best secret in lax Team Ten we gonna mop up 2025 this year

Tell us more about this secret 2025 wonder team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Excellent Joint Practice today with 91 and Rebels.
6V6 Thought 91 looked good. 45 min scrimmage not sure of score tied or one goal game.
Then some man up/down.
Day for coaches to teach and thought it went well
Rebel Parent, and thanks 91 for the day.

Thought 91 Looked good --- score tied or one goal game? How is that 91 looking good? 91 is supposed to be one of the best. Not on par with Rebels who beats nobody!

Waits until you play da best secret in lax Team Ten we gonna mop up 2025 this year

Tell us more about this secret 2025 wonder team.

Have they played the ‘Nuts?

ALL these teams are overcoached. The amount of screaming, yelling and directing is overwhelming for a kid of any age. Make a mistake go sit down and watch. Seriously, let the kids the kids play. Coaches constantly screaming, be here, do this, why didn't you do this, that's not what I taught you. The coaching genius' have no idea how to translate their plays to an 8th grader. It's great it worked for you 10 years ago in D1 but now you can't figure out why it doesn't work? Because they are 8th graders. Let them create, be inventive, figure it out themselves. CoachC had it right when he did run and gun. Haven't seen him in a few so not sure what he's doing now. Coaches and directors who claim they're not listening, let them play, stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

That may be the best and most accurate post I've seen on this site. These coaches dont know how to motivate or maximize talent on their squads. They run the same plays, use the same kids and always end up with the same results. Its pretty apparent. "Good time"? I luv that one...get a bull horn and tell the entire filed the kid is gonna dodge.... LET THE KIDS PLAY...ALL OF THE KIDS... These coaches are supposed to build team chemistry and coach ALL of the kids but instead they are married to the same lines, same plays...for better or for worse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Excellent Joint Practice today with 91 and Rebels.
6V6 Thought 91 looked good. 45 min scrimmage not sure of score tied or one goal game.
Then some man up/down.
Day for coaches to teach and thought it went well
Rebel Parent, and thanks 91 for the day.

Tell us more about this secret 2025 wonder team.

Have they played the ‘Nuts?

Enough with the 'Nuts team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL these teams are overcoached. The amount of screaming, yelling and directing is overwhelming for a kid of any age. Make a mistake go sit down and watch. Seriously, let the kids the kids play. Coaches constantly screaming, be here, do this, why didn't you do this, that's not what I taught you. The coaching genius' have no idea how to translate their plays to an 8th grader. It's great it worked for you 10 years ago in D1 but now you can't figure out why it doesn't work? Because they are 8th graders. Let them create, be inventive, figure it out themselves. CoachC had it right when he did run and gun. Haven't seen him in a few so not sure what he's doing now. Coaches and directors who claim they're not listening, let them play, stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

In a perfect world you are 100% correct, but until youth lacrosse gets rid of the WSYL (the worst thing to happen to youth lacrosse), the pressure, yelling & screaming from club coaches will continue.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL these teams are overcoached. The amount of screaming, yelling and directing is overwhelming for a kid of any age. Make a mistake go sit down and watch. Seriously, let the kids the kids play. Coaches constantly screaming, be here, do this, why didn't you do this, that's not what I taught you. The coaching genius' have no idea how to translate their plays to an 8th grader. It's great it worked for you 10 years ago in D1 but now you can't figure out why it doesn't work? Because they are 8th graders. Let them create, be inventive, figure it out themselves. CoachC had it right when he did run and gun. Haven't seen him in a few so not sure what he's doing now. Coaches and directors who claim they're not listening, let them play, stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

And the wizard giving us this free advice is?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL these teams are overcoached. The amount of screaming, yelling and directing is overwhelming for a kid of any age. Make a mistake go sit down and watch. Seriously, let the kids the kids play. Coaches constantly screaming, be here, do this, why didn't you do this, that's not what I taught you. The coaching genius' have no idea how to translate their plays to an 8th grader. It's great it worked for you 10 years ago in D1 but now you can't figure out why it doesn't work? Because they are 8th graders. Let them create, be inventive, figure it out themselves. CoachC had it right when he did run and gun. Haven't seen him in a few so not sure what he's doing now. Coaches and directors who claim they're not listening, let them play, stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

In a perfect world you are 100% correct, but until youth lacrosse gets rid of the WSYL (the worst thing to happen to youth lacrosse), the pressure, yelling & screaming from club coaches will continue.

Who are the worst offenders? What teams

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL these teams are overcoached. The amount of screaming, yelling and directing is overwhelming for a kid of any age. Make a mistake go sit down and watch. Seriously, let the kids the kids play. Coaches constantly screaming, be here, do this, why didn't you do this, that's not what I taught you. The coaching genius' have no idea how to translate their plays to an 8th grader. It's great it worked for you 10 years ago in D1 but now you can't figure out why it doesn't work? Because they are 8th graders. Let them create, be inventive, figure it out themselves. CoachC had it right when he did run and gun. Haven't seen him in a few so not sure what he's doing now. Coaches and directors who claim they're not listening, let them play, stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

In a perfect world you are 100% correct, but until youth lacrosse gets rid of the WSYL (the worst thing to happen to youth lacrosse), the pressure, yelling & screaming from club coaches will continue.

care to share what 2025 team you are a part of?

In this age bracket, looks like ALL except one...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In this age bracket, looks like ALL except one...

We are begging you now to tell us

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL these teams are overcoached. The amount of screaming, yelling and directing is overwhelming for a kid of any age. Make a mistake go sit down and watch. Seriously, let the kids the kids play. Coaches constantly screaming, be here, do this, why didn't you do this, that's not what I taught you. The coaching genius' have no idea how to translate their plays to an 8th grader. It's great it worked for you 10 years ago in D1 but now you can't figure out why it doesn't work? Because they are 8th graders. Let them create, be inventive, figure it out themselves. CoachC had it right when he did run and gun. Haven't seen him in a few so not sure what he's doing now. Coaches and directors who claim they're not listening, let them play, stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

In a perfect world you are 100% correct, but until youth lacrosse gets rid of the WSYL (the worst thing to happen to youth lacrosse), the pressure, yelling & screaming from club coaches will continue.

care to share what 2025 team you are a part of?

does it really matter?!

91 Director in Charge, Over coaching and under delivering.
Two offense coaches who have different ideas on how to run the team.
A mix of holdovers that should be replaced and new kids not good enough.
What a mess. But you reap what you sow.

Are these actual parents posting on this thread???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL these teams are overcoached. The amount of screaming, yelling and directing is overwhelming for a kid of any age. Make a mistake go sit down and watch. Seriously, let the kids the kids play. Coaches constantly screaming, be here, do this, why didn't you do this, that's not what I taught you. The coaching genius' have no idea how to translate their plays to an 8th grader. It's great it worked for you 10 years ago in D1 but now you can't figure out why it doesn't work? Because they are 8th graders. Let them create, be inventive, figure it out themselves. CoachC had it right when he did run and gun. Haven't seen him in a few so not sure what he's doing now. Coaches and directors who claim they're not listening, let them play, stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

In a perfect world you are 100% correct, but until youth lacrosse gets rid of the WSYL (the worst thing to happen to youth lacrosse), the pressure, yelling & screaming from club coaches will continue.

care to share what 2025 team you are a part of?

does it really matter?!

it does if anyone is going to take your rant seriously

Better question is this. What teams actually just let their kids play versus the micro managing coaching

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Better question is this. What teams actually just let their kids play versus the micro managing coaching

We all can learn so much from you; what club do you run chief?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ALL these teams are overcoached. The amount of screaming, yelling and directing is overwhelming for a kid of any age. Make a mistake go sit down and watch. Seriously, let the kids the kids play. Coaches constantly screaming, be here, do this, why didn't you do this, that's not what I taught you. The coaching genius' have no idea how to translate their plays to an 8th grader. It's great it worked for you 10 years ago in D1 but now you can't figure out why it doesn't work? Because they are 8th graders. Let them create, be inventive, figure it out themselves. CoachC had it right when he did run and gun. Haven't seen him in a few so not sure what he's doing now. Coaches and directors who claim they're not listening, let them play, stop trying to reinvent the wheel.

And the wizard giving us this free advice is?

Asked by the person who is anonymous as well, too funny.

I will take a PAL team that is properly coached, where every kid contributes and their skill set is maximized over a logo, a cool T shirt or a "Big name" team where 1/2 the kids dont play and none of them are inspired by these coaches that cant connect with them. . Remember, the 10-14 yr old highlights are cute and boost your self worth today but by 10th grade, they mean nothing and the best players are buried on someone's bench right now or not even playing yet. You can take that to the bank....

cut me a check for $3500, buy $500 worth of swag and I may consider telling you

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Excellent Joint Practice today with 91 and Rebels.
6V6 Thought 91 looked good. 45 min scrimmage not sure of score tied or one goal game.
Then some man up/down.
Day for coaches to teach and thought it went well
Rebel Parent, and thanks 91 for the day.

Tell us more about this secret 2025 wonder team.

Have they played the ‘Nuts?

Enough with the 'Nuts team.

Never enough ‘Nuts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

cut me a check for $3500, buy $500 worth of swag and I may consider telling you

If it was only that little

Werent the 'Nuts a good team when these kids were in diapers? That ship sailed long ago captain! Your drowning in the Koolaide

Does it matter that my kids 2025 team is bringing there goalie to play down when we dont have conflictering tournaments?

What does the above even mean?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does the above even mean?

Hard to interpret stunard but let's give it a try. I think the poster is asking, is it normal for a club to send their older players to play at younger ages when there is no conflict? If this translation is correct, can the original poster notify us and let us know which team his kid plays for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter that my kids 2025 team is bringing there goalie to play down when we dont have conflictering tournaments?

It doesnt because although he is a 24 he is beyond age appropriate to play 25.

Ahhhh..Yes, it is, especially when it comes to selling the World Series of Lax Koolaide. Drink up laddy! Im sure the parents on the other team will be thrilled to be adding more players and welcome them with open arms. And if the coach is doing that what does it say about what he thinks of his current roster & kids? "Ahhhh, check please.... Iwe gotta go"

Who are the best B+/A- teams?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who are the best B+/A- teams?

91 Shock

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does it matter that my kids 2025 team is bringing there goalie to play down when we dont have conflictering tournaments?

It doesnt because although he is a 24 he is beyond age appropriate to play 25.

My kids 2025 team goalie is often playing in 2026 and seomtimes in 2027 even though he is a 2024 holdback.

Def 91. They played Igloo tough, I think to a tie.

So the Chanster is asking his teams to cross into NJ this weekend to play other NJ/NY teams and the gov is saying essential travel only. I checked the tourney app and plenty of NY teams willing to travel. Is it really worth risking your family and the health of others over lacrosse? Yes, we can stay home, but if you go, come back and infect my kid now what? stunands!

The Lax cult will travel anywhere for kiddie lax....Just wait 'til one kid contracts COVID after one of these sacred events.... I hope the directors have a good attorney because the lawsuits will be coming. And then the cult will be paying $8500 per season to absorb the legal fees..... Enjoy the games sheep!

But because I'm feeling gratuitous myself today, Im giving all of you dense-arse directors some free advice that will solve your parental-complaining problems and keep you and your organization out of the mud:

KEEP IT LOCAL, KEEP IT SAFE, KEEP THE 'PLAYDATES" GOING AND AVOID WHATS COMING YOUR WAY LEGALLY IF YOU DONT.....

total downer man. but prolly right. maybe you can be their lawyer and get a piece of the action

You don't have to go to the tourney big guy.. No one is forcing you..

Btw, it appears there is just one person on these forums who uses the term 'stunad' repeatedly.. It's like his signature.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You don't have to go to the tourney big guy.. No one is forcing you..

Btw, it appears there is just one person on these forums who uses the term 'stunad' repeatedly.. It's like his signature.

Ha, I thought so too for a while, but the site uses that for curses or whatever they deem inappropriate. you cant even write s t u p i d. if you do it corrects to notIntelligent.

No one is forcing you or your kid to play lacrosse. If you're afraid of covid, stay home. Leave the rest of us alone. There is no evidence that 13 year olds playing outdoor lacrosse is any riskier than 13 year olds going to school, riding their bikes with their friends, or doing anything else a normal 13 year old does. And there's no evidence that adults standing on sidelines outdoors is any riskier than going to the supermarket. If you want the government to rob your child of years he will never get back, that is your decision. If you want to quarantine your child with his phone and xbox, hoping his brain isn't being rewired by the algorithms, that's your call. The rest of us are convinced by the "science". So do us all a favor, retreat to your corner, throw a blanket over your head, and stop driving with a mask on when there's no one else in the car!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one is forcing you or your kid to play lacrosse. If you're afraid of covid, stay home. Leave the rest of us alone. There is no evidence that 13 year olds playing outdoor lacrosse is any riskier than 13 year olds going to school, riding their bikes with their friends, or doing anything else a normal 13 year old does. And there's no evidence that adults standing on sidelines outdoors is any riskier than going to the supermarket. If you want the government to rob your child of years he will never get back, that is your decision. If you want to quarantine your child with his phone and xbox, hoping his brain isn't being rewired by the algorithms, that's your call. The rest of us are convinced by the "science". So do us all a favor, retreat to your corner, throw a blanket over your head, and stop driving with a mask on when there's no one else in the car!

Vote for this guy on Nov 3

???

The turtles hiding in their shells from another event

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No one is forcing you or your kid to play lacrosse. If you're afraid of covid, stay home. Leave the rest of us alone. There is no evidence that 13 year olds playing outdoor lacrosse is any riskier than 13 year olds going to school, riding their bikes with their friends, or doing anything else a normal 13 year old does. And there's no evidence that adults standing on sidelines outdoors is any riskier than going to the supermarket. If you want the government to rob your child of years he will never get back, that is your decision. If you want to quarantine your child with his phone and xbox, hoping his brain isn't being rewired by the algorithms, that's your call. The rest of us are convinced by the "science". So do us all a favor, retreat to your corner, throw a blanket over your head, and stop driving with a mask on when there's no one else in the car!

Winner winner, post of the day.

If you haven’t noticed all sports are being played all over the place. Not sure why it’s a big deal to have a lax tournament or any other tournament as long as you take the proper precautions.

Soccer tournaments all over the island every weekend but no lacrosse why ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The turtles hiding in their shells from another event

Why is that ? Heard all age groups not playing.

Aren’t they playing at Pumkin shootout this weekend?

Where are the Shockers this weekend? Afraid of Igloo and Express (again)?

Shockers? Who is that? And noone is afraid of Igloo so stop that RIGHT NOW

Why is 91 not playing at Tri Star this weekend?

Pretty simple as to why 91 isn't playing this weekend . When the competition gets tuff they go into hiding . They will wait for one if their own weak tournaments so they can play the lesser competition. That's the way they roll .

Answer: Who cares? Seriously? At least they dont have to drive 2.5 hrs to play the same LI teams and duck state restrictions... You gotta give credit where credit is due....

Hahaha....typical 91 2025 dad answer . Your perspective isn't shared by the 91 organization as there will be 91 teams there . Go back to the basement and hide

Why don’t you people accept it! When it comes to boys lacrosse 91 sets the bar! Quit being crybabies because your kid can’t make the team!

NOW that id Funny!!!

You folks enjoy your long ride and trying to stack up. We will take the day off. Stay safe> Go 91!

Wrong guy....team 91 2025 and 2026 are disasters.

TEAM 91 should be fun too watch when coaches come around and the FULLY DADDY BALL takes over .....

Team 91 2025 hidin Biden’s ........enjoy your time at home.... Call up some local town teams see if you can beat them, apparently not easy for you to do

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you people accept it! When it comes to boys lacrosse 91 sets the bar! Quit being crybabies because your kid can’t make the team!

Seriously - fall is halfway over. Who has 91 played and beat? If they wanted to prove they were the bar, they'd be playing every weekend like the Chanster. We all know they are good enough to tie Igloo, but who are they good enough to beat?

WAWAWA, cry me a river! If not now then later, the best coaches the best training! Maybe one day your kid will make the cut. For now just dream orange!

Guy, your 2025 91 team loses to town teams and that's a fact . They are just not very good . It's ok , maybe you can take him to the little league world series instead if he plays baseball?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Guy, your 2025 91 team loses to town teams and that's a fact . They are just not very good . It's ok , maybe you can take him to the little league world series instead if he plays baseball?

You’re a L O S E R...that’s a fact.

Don't listen to this guy, I know who he is he came to 91 tryouts and his kid couldn't even cradle the ball and they went crying home because he got kicked off the field!

Regulators, mount up😳😳

Did the Sheriff Woodies actually go 0-3 today?
Now you need to shut up.
You should do the right thing and ban yourself from this board until that team proves it can compete.

Where was 91 today , hiding in the basement again ? Waiting for one of your mylollipop tournaments to play ? Good luck

After this weekend there should be no talk about the regulators anymore....completely overmatched and embarrassed themselves at tri star. Enough already with that wanna be AA team

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you people accept it! When it comes to boys lacrosse 91 sets the bar! Quit being crybabies because your kid can’t make the team!

91 parents are at the bar. Its the only way they get the courage to come on BOTC.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why don’t you people accept it! When it comes to boys lacrosse 91 sets the bar! Quit being crybabies because your kid can’t make the team!

91 parents are at the bar. Its the only way they get the courage to come on BOTC.

At the bar? The only smart ones then!

91 dads at the bar acting like high school girls " did you see BS today, he was so cute with me I think he likes me " lol. Pathetic grown men .

Regulators should stand down after the beating they took this weekend. Some decent players but again, just not anywhere near the "better teams".

WHO CARES ABOUT 91? Stop already. They are like every other team in this Grade level.... Just let them be miserable and figure it out for themselves

Most of you are pathetic.

The team should stand down. What does that even mean? Do you people hear yourselves? Some people just don’t get it. It’s about your son getting to be a better player. Making friends and having fun along the way. Hopefully soon a real good varsity player. That’s what club sports is. That’s it folks. My older guy has been through this. Teams win games, teams lose games. At the end of the day, nobody cares. That’s what some parents don’t understand. Kids are in school right now, not thinking of the scores of games the past couple weeks.They are thinking about what costume they are wearing on Saturday. Only a handful of crazy parents are fixated on these scores. Lol. The team should stand down. It’s not a military platoon Chief. It’s 13 year old kids playing lacrosse. Thanks for the morning laugh.

Very average, sloppy lacrosse across the board at u14. Maybe next tournament they'll cut the grass. WTH was up with that? Don't give me the Fall ball excuse almost all of us have been practicing 2 to 3x per week since summer. This weekend the better programs beat each other up over 2nd place. Parity. Do you think because C dropped one game they're in trouble? Look at the goal differentials. Teams can't score enough to consistently win. You can only defend for so long. Anyway good luck chasing the dream.

Like it was stated last week: Its Exp and then everyone else in 2025 group. Unless someone saw something different this weekend? Even Rebels, according to Tourney machine, beat Regulators. But didnt Regulators beat them last tournament? So all these teams, on any given day, can beat up on each other.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like it was stated last week: Its Exp and then everyone else in 2025 group. Unless someone saw something different this weekend? Even Rebels, according to Tourney machine, beat Regulators. But didnt Regulators beat them last tournament? So all these teams, on any given day, can beat up on each other.

Regulators were terrible. They looked worse than most town teams vs Rebels.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like it was stated last week: Its Exp and then everyone else in 2025 group. Unless someone saw something different this weekend? Even Rebels, according to Tourney machine, beat Regulators. But didnt Regulators beat them last tournament? So all these teams, on any given day, can beat up on each other.

Regulators were terrible. They looked worse than most town teams vs Rebels.

Clearly same person here making nasty comments that has an axe to grind or is trying to poach someone from Regulators.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like it was stated last week: Its Exp and then everyone else in 2025 group. Unless someone saw something different this weekend? Even Rebels, according to Tourney machine, beat Regulators. But didnt Regulators beat them last tournament? So all these teams, on any given day, can beat up on each other.

Regulators were terrible. They looked worse than most town teams vs Rebels.

That's what happens when you are not a "real team". You have a collection of players with commitments to their primary teams so you never know who is going to show up. All for the sake of WSYL, what an absolute joke. Hope they enjoyed the drive.

Based on this weekend, who are the top 6 teams to compete in WYSL? Express, BBL, Primetime and who?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like it was stated last week: Its Exp and then everyone else in 2025 group. Unless someone saw something different this weekend? Even Rebels, according to Tourney machine, beat Regulators. But didnt Regulators beat them last tournament? So all these teams, on any given day, can beat up on each other.

Regulators were terrible. They looked worse than most town teams vs Rebels.

Clearly same person here making nasty comments that has an axe to grind or is trying to poach someone from Regulators.

Right ...someone comes on here to poach someone from a horrible team ? The regulators got embarrassed this past weekend. Why would someone come on here to poach a player from a garbage team ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like it was stated last week: Its Exp and then everyone else in 2025 group. Unless someone saw something different this weekend? Even Rebels, according to Tourney machine, beat Regulators. But didnt Regulators beat them last tournament? So all these teams, on any given day, can beat up on each other.

Regulators were terrible. They looked worse than most town teams vs Rebels.

Clearly same person here making nasty comments that has an axe to grind or is trying to poach someone from Regulators.

Right ...someone comes on here to poach someone from a horrible team ? The regulators got embarrassed this past weekend. Why would someone come on here to poach a player from a garbage team ?

Same reason Forcegloo made a package deal. Take 5 average players to get 1 good one.

All these teams are the same. Next tourney they could roll those teams. And their helmets are cool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like it was stated last week: Its Exp and then everyone else in 2025 group. Unless someone saw something different this weekend? Even Rebels, according to Tourney machine, beat Regulators. But didnt Regulators beat them last tournament? So all these teams, on any given day, can beat up on each other.

Regulators were terrible. They looked worse than most town teams vs Rebels.

Clearly same person here making nasty comments that has an axe to grind or is trying to poach someone from Regulators.

Hysterical! Poaching!

Regulators beat who last tournament? Definitely not express long island . Maybe express north ? Every time regulators has faced express LI CoachC they have been beaten badly . Seriously , at this point stop pretending to be a AA team and giving the kids false hope .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like it was stated last week: Its Exp and then everyone else in 2025 group. Unless someone saw something different this weekend? Even Rebels, according to Tourney machine, beat Regulators. But didnt Regulators beat them last tournament? So all these teams, on any given day, can beat up on each other.

Regulators were terrible. They looked worse than most town teams vs Rebels.

Clearly same person here making nasty comments that has an axe to grind or is trying to poach someone from Regulators.

Right ...someone comes on here to poach someone from a horrible team ? The regulators got embarrassed this past weekend. Why would someone come on here to poach a player from a garbage team ?

Same reason Forcegloo made a package deal. Take 5 average players to get 1 good one.

Enough with the "Forcegloo", you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on this weekend, who are the top 6 teams to compete in WYSL? Express, BBL, Primetime and who?

To rank them from this weekends Tristar results, Express, Sweet Lax, Tigers, Prime Time, BBL based on head to head. LIE beat SL, SL beat T, T beat PT, PT beat BBL. All close games so coin toss on actual WSYL. Even with Hawks at WSYL with this group its a pickem for WSYL champ.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators beat who last tournament? Definitely not express long island . Maybe express north ? Every time regulators has faced express LI CoachC they have been beaten badly . Seriously , at this point stop pretending to be a AA team and giving the kids false hope .

Which team is AA? There's Chan and then there's all the other A teams and then the B's. Stop with the AA, A, A-, B++ nonsense.

You’re obsessed.

Not a very smart dad apparently . Let's see, beat a team by double digits then go take their players who can't seem to play at the same level . How does that make any sense ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a very smart dad apparently . Let's see, beat a team by double digits then go take their players who can't seem to play at the same level . How does that make any sense ?

Not only that....take 5 of them when you only really want one? Huh?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators beat who last tournament? Definitely not express long island . Maybe express north ? Every time regulators has faced express LI CoachC they have been beaten badly . Seriously , at this point stop pretending to be a AA team and giving the kids false hope .

Which team is AA? There's Chan and then there's all the other A teams and then the B's. Stop with the AA, A, A-, B++ nonsense.

Ok,let me rephrase to your liking ..stop pretending regulators are an A team. They clearly can not hand with the A teams . They are garbage . Stop giving the kids false hope .

NONE of these teams are much better than the others. PARITY!!! Exp Ch is clearly head and shoulders above them all. The rest dont belong in the same discussion. Not being a donk but thats just the way it is. Everyone knows it and sees it first hand when watching or playing them. And thats all on the coaches... that staff does a GREAT job coaching and it shows. The rest of the teams? Not so much...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Based on this weekend, who are the top 6 teams to compete in WYSL? Express, BBL, Primetime and who?

To rank them from this weekends Tristar results, Express, Sweet Lax, Tigers, Prime Time, BBL based on head to head. LIE beat SL, SL beat T, T beat PT, PT beat BBL. All close games so coin toss on actual WSYL. Even with Hawks at WSYL with this group its a pickem for WSYL champ.

You do know LIE lost to sweetlax, don’t you?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NONE of these teams are much better than the others. PARITY!!! Exp Ch is clearly head and shoulders above them all. The rest dont belong in the same discussion. Not being a donk but thats just the way it is. Everyone knows it and sees it first hand when watching or playing them. And thats all on the coaches... that staff does a GREAT job coaching and it shows. The rest of the teams? Not so much...

Um, question for all the gurus, who won the last time Express played 91? Follow up, what other team on LI has beaten CoachC?

Asking for a friend.

Forcegloo....HILARIOUS and tru. No difference to date either. Except at the cash register

Express played like 12 games with 60 different kids.... Its Exp and then everyone else at any given tournament.

Both Sweetlax and Express are winning with actual age-on kids. Take a look at that BBL team - they had kids that were six feet tall, no exaggeration. And they still lost. Say what you want about Express, but it's not cheating like some of the other teams by bringing 2024s down to play.

It all about the coaching You could have a team full of 24s and if they arent coached correctly they will lose Plain and simple. Its all about coaching and knowing how to make the pieces fit and get the most out of each kid on the team. If they cant do that then there is no shot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Sweetlax and Express are winning with actual age-on kids. Take a look at that BBL team - they had kids that were six feet tall, no exaggeration. And they still lost. Say what you want about Express, but it's not cheating like some of the other teams by bringing 2024s down to play.

On no, 6ft tall. So what? That doesn't mean he's older. My son is 5'11 in 7th grade, and on age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Sweetlax and Express are winning with actual age-on kids. Take a look at that BBL team - they had kids that were six feet tall, no exaggeration. And they still lost. Say what you want about Express, but it's not cheating like some of the other teams by bringing 2024s down to play.

On no, 6ft tall. So what? That doesn't mean he's older. My son is 5'11 in 7th grade, and on age.

Yeah. My son is 6' and on age. Silly comment.

Again, it dont matter Ill take 10 properly coached kids that are 5'5 before I take 10 kids that are 6'.

With Covid it’s going to be holdback central. People have been complaining about holdbacks for years. Rightfully so. Now forget about it. Wait to you see what happens the next few years. Kids will be graduating high school at 20, maybe even 21 in some places. holdbacks, reclass, prep schools, go to catholic school for a year, then go back to the public school. Etc, Etc. It’s become a rat race.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, it dont matter Ill take 10 properly coached kids that are 5'5 before I take 10 kids that are 6'.

Does being tall mean that you are not properly coached? I don't get your comment.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, it dont matter Ill take 10 properly coached kids that are 5'5 before I take 10 kids that are 6'.

Everything else being equal, you'd take 10 properly coached 6ft players over 10 equally properly coached 5'5 players.

Maybe they can have a WSYL for all ages, every year! My infant son is a really good player already.

What does it matter, 91 wins it every year anyway you losers!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Like it was stated last week: Its Exp and then everyone else in 2025 group. Unless someone saw something different this weekend? Even Rebels, according to Tourney machine, beat Regulators. But didnt Regulators beat them last tournament? So all these teams, on any given day, can beat up on each other.

Regulators were terrible. They looked worse than most town teams vs Rebels.

Clearly same person here making nasty comments that has an axe to grind or is trying to poach someone from Regulators.

Right ...someone comes on here to poach someone from a horrible team ? The regulators got embarrassed this past weekend. Why would someone come on here to poach a player from a garbage team ?

Same reason Forcegloo made a package deal. Take 5 average players to get 1 good one.

Enough with the "Forcegloo", you clearly don't know what you are talking about.

Touchy eh? My apologies to Huntingloo town team, and you wonder why the outsiders left. Igloo same average kids, same mistakes, same results no matter who coaches.

Anyone get any answers from coaches about WSYL rosters? Some clubs off LI are inviting outsiders tryout for the WSYL rosters. I guess kids weren't guaranteed spots. How about teams with rosters over the 25 man limit?

Harbor-gloo-fields..... PAL at its best!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Harbor-gloo-fields..... PAL at its best!

It's a Harbor-gloo-force-field!!

Its a 35 player average team charging fees like an elite "A Team". Its a shame as there are some good kids on that team. The force field is around the opposition's net...Force'gloo cant score! But keep running the same kids and the same plays and dont change anything up...Im sure it'll work eventually...of wait.....

The Rebels dads need to stop worrying about other teams and just bask in your own misery of being stuck in a never win situation. Express and 91 parents don’t give a garbage about a team like Igloo so it’s sadly apparent. Angry because a team folded and no one wanted a red helmet. The better kids went to better teams like Express, 91 and Igloo. Some kids even went to 91 Hornets over the Rebels so what does that tell you? Stay strong Rebels players high school ball is almost here.

Express has reclassed 2024 holdbacks. Facts.

Rebels need to worry about themselves! I heard they have a Goalie problems on most of their teams!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Sweetlax and Express are winning with actual age-on kids. Take a look at that BBL team - they had kids that were six feet tall, no exaggeration. And they still lost. Say what you want about Express, but it's not cheating like some of the other teams by bringing 2024s down to play.

On no, 6ft tall. So what? That doesn't mean he's older. My son is 5'11 in 7th grade, and on age.

Yeah. My son is 6' and on age. Silly comment.

6 foot tall 8th grader? And a 5'11" 7th grader? Wow - what are the odds of having two people on this board with kids who exceed the 99th percentile in height for their age group? Answer: zero.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express has reclassed 2024 holdbacks. Facts.

Stop,,,they do not. They have a 26 though.

Rebels arent even in this conversation. And they have some big kids too...which apparenlty doesnt help

The 6 foot athletic strong stick skilled 8th grader player who has reached puberty is the unicorn ask my 4'10 son who is a good player if he likes covering that kid! That kid is gonna eat him alive. The problem is that kid is generally a unicorn, some of the kids like him are the ones who dont put their birthdate on the roster profile because it would read 2006 or even 2005. Not to mention the average sized guys that are unbelievably fast and skilled with similiar birthdates. We have been on enough teams to know why there are some no birthdate guys on the team.

Can I ask why anyone cares about Unicorns, Igloo, Rebels, Exp 91 etc? You should be focused on your son's team along his development and his enjoyment of the game, not what kids left a team that unfortunately folded and where they landed. Everyone has different reasons for playing travel so leave it at that. There are a lot of good kids on all of these teams. We can critique all day but in the end, does it really matter? They are kids .... Deep down I hope everyone realizes this and that the chatter on this board is for entertainment purposes only or to simply waste your company's time and money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can I ask why anyone cares about Unicorns, Igloo, Rebels, Exp 91 etc? You should be focused on your son's team along his development and his enjoyment of the game, not what kids left a team that unfortunately folded and where they landed. Everyone has different reasons for playing travel so leave it at that. There are a lot of good kids on all of these teams. We can critique all day but in the end, does it really matter? They are kids .... Deep down I hope everyone realizes this and that the chatter on this board is for entertainment purposes only or to simply waste your company's time and money.

Thanks Hall Monitor Mom!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Both Sweetlax and Express are winning with actual age-on kids. Take a look at that BBL team - they had kids that were six feet tall, no exaggeration. And they still lost. Say what you want about Express, but it's not cheating like some of the other teams by bringing 2024s down to play.

On no, 6ft tall. So what? That doesn't mean he's older. My son is 5'11 in 7th grade, and on age.

Yeah. My son is 6' and on age. Silly comment.

6 foot tall 8th grader? And a 5'11" 7th grader? Wow - what are the odds of having two people on this board with kids who exceed the 99th percentile in height for their age group? Answer: zero.

Dont be bitter because their kids are taller than you.

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

Is it true Igloo beat Express in a scrimmage yesterday? If so, did Express just play their bench?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

WRONG! He must be a unicorn, or a double holdback!

I heard the same. Exp def lost a step...or 10.... and Force-gloo must have had the game of their lives. Anyone know what the score was?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true Igloo beat Express in a scrimmage yesterday? If so, did Express just play their bench?

Keep bragging about a scrimmage. Who cares. The fat penguin so badly wants to be chanster. He now has the biggest roster in the NE. Harbor Force Gloo whatever they’re called now. Remember he used call himself the anti club lacrosse. At least with LIE you know what to expect. Penguin claims it’s all about the kid$$$$. Laughable. You’ll never beat us when it matters. Fact

Lot of big moms patrolling the sidelines lately. Turtles and express B got whooped by a town team this weekend...

10-9, last minute goal. Both teams played great, it could of went either way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true Igloo beat Express in a scrimmage yesterday? If so, did Express just play their bench?

10-9 quick goal with a few seconds left to play. Game could of went either way. Both teams played well

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true Igloo beat Express in a scrimmage yesterday? If so, did Express just play their bench?

Keep bragging about a scrimmage. Who cares. The fat penguin so badly wants to be chanster. He now has the biggest roster in the NE. Harbor Force Gloo whatever they’re called now. Remember he used call himself the anti club lacrosse. At least with LIE you know what to expect. Penguin claims it’s all about the kid$$$$. Laughable. You’ll never beat us when it matters. Fact

That's fine that they'll never beat you when it matters but what happen this time? Why did they beat you? Any "laughable" excuses?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is it true Igloo beat Express in a scrimmage yesterday? If so, did Express just play their bench?

Keep bragging about a scrimmage. Who cares. The fat penguin so badly wants to be chanster. He now has the biggest roster in the NE. Harbor Force Gloo whatever they’re called now. Remember he used call himself the anti club lacrosse. At least with LIE you know what to expect. Penguin claims it’s all about the kid$$$$. Laughable. You’ll never beat us when it matters. Fact

That's fine that they'll never beat you when it matters but what happen this time? Why did they beat you? Any "laughable" excuses?

They were bigger and won the ground balls.

My guess is if Teeth fields his re-classed WSYL team, Penguin has no shot, 30 kids or not. But give them credit as they won yesterday. Advantage Force-gloo!

Bigger? Yeah. But they outplayed them. Plain and simple. Give credit where it is due. The days of Exp are over. New sheriff in town and you can find him sitting in his Igloo. Now go away and dream about years past when that team used to be dominant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

If your kid is 14, he shouldn't be playing for 2025s. That's my point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

If your kid is 14, he shouldn't be playing for 2025s. That's my point.

Where should his kid be playing? My kid just turned 13 and plays 2026.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

If your kid is 14, he shouldn't be playing for 2025s. That's my point.

Where should his kid be playing? My kid just turned 13 and plays 2026.

My kid just turned 14 (August 29th) and plays 2024.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

If your kid is 14, he shouldn't be playing for 2025s. That's my point.

Where should his kid be playing? My kid just turned 13 and plays 2026.

US Lacrosse uses a Sept 1 cutoff - they set the guideline for the entire country. A 14 y/o playing at 2025 is perfectly normal and EVERY team in the US has 14 y/o players at 2025. You can complain about it but the guideline is set.

The demise of LIE has been greatly exaggerated. Congrats Forcegloo for picking up one player who makes up your entire offense. Not too hard to defend after getting exposed. BTW fine job on developing players, not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The demise of LIE has been greatly exaggerated. Congrats Forcegloo for picking up one player who makes up your entire offense. Not too hard to defend after getting exposed. BTW fine job on developing players, not.

Can someone explain the F0rc3gloo name? I’m sure I’m missing the obvious but please help.

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

If your kid is 14, he shouldn't be playing for 2025s. That's my point.

Where should his kid be playing? My kid just turned 13 and plays 2026.

My kid just turned 14 (August 29th) and plays 2024.

And if he was born 2 days later, he would be playing (or could be) 2025.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The demise of LIE has been greatly exaggerated. Congrats Forcegloo for picking up one player who makes up your entire offense. Not too hard to defend after getting exposed. BTW fine job on developing players, not.

Haha, NOT. Grow uo. It's not the early 90's.

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

If your kid is 14, he shouldn't be playing for 2025s. That's my point.

Where should his kid be playing? My kid just turned 13 and plays 2026.

My kid just turned 14 (August 29th) and plays 2024.

And if he was born 2 days later, he would be playing (or could be) 2025.

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

If your kid is 14, he shouldn't be playing for 2025s. That's my point.

Where should his kid be playing? My kid just turned 13 and plays 2026.

My kid just turned 14 (August 29th) and plays 2024.

He didnt just turn 14, he turned 14 nine weeks ago.

The demise of express, lol. You people are nuts. Only on a site like this winning 80 out of 85 games is no good. Yes they are no good. They need to be 85 and 0.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The demise of LIE has been greatly exaggerated. Congrats Forcegloo for picking up one player who makes up your entire offense. Not too hard to defend after getting exposed. BTW fine job on developing players, not.

The demise of LIE has nothing to do with the not surprising igloo win, they lack any depth on midfield and are small all over. The attack is for real. 91 can and will destroy them.

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

If your kid is 14, he shouldn't be playing for 2025s. That's my point.

Where should his kid be playing? My kid just turned 13 and plays 2026.

My kid just turned 14 (August 29th) and plays 2024.

Exactly - I’d rather my kid play against older competition. These parents with their “2025s” playing against kids a full year younger - does that make them feel superior? Must be hard for your 9th grader to play against 8th graders.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bigger? Yeah. But they outplayed them. Plain and simple. Give credit where it is due. The days of Exp are over. New sheriff in town and you can find him sitting in his Igloo. Now go away and dream about years past when that team used to be dominant.

Seriously. Igloo wins a SCRIMMAGE with a last minute goal and now you crown them king? LIE played their bench equally, can't say the same for your team. If WSYL happens they won't even qualify. They still can't beat town team REGS or wins over quality teams. A win here or there does not make them good. Keep chasing and open your checkbook.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

If your kid is 14, he shouldn't be playing for 2025s. That's my point.

Where should his kid be playing? My kid just turned 13 and plays 2026.

My kid just turned 14 (August 29th) and plays 2024.

Exactly - I’d rather my kid play against older competition. These parents with their “2025s” playing against kids a full year younger - does that make them feel superior? Must be hard for your 9th grader to play against 8th graders.

Sure, playing up has some advantages. But what is wrong with an older , ON AGE kid playing with kids his age? Nothing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Originally Posted by cltlax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My kid is 14 and is 6 foot tall as well. It happens when both of your parents are both in the 99th percentile.

If your kid is 14, he shouldn't be playing for 2025s. That's my point.

Where should his kid be playing? My kid just turned 13 and plays 2026.

My kid just turned 14 (August 29th) and plays 2024.

Exactly - I’d rather my kid play against older competition. These parents with their “2025s” playing against kids a full year younger - does that make them feel superior? Must be hard for your 9th grader to play against 8th graders.

So if you had a son born in Aug, you would have him play up on the next graduating year team? Guess what, when that class he is playing up with goes off to HS and your son is going into 8th grade and has to start over with a new team he will have disadvantages. He will appear to outsiders to be a true holdback. He will have to find his role on a team that has been playing together for years possibly. I don't see the benefit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bigger? Yeah. But they outplayed them. Plain and simple. Give credit where it is due. The days of Exp are over. New sheriff in town and you can find him sitting in his Igloo. Now go away and dream about years past when that team used to be dominant.

Seriously. Igloo wins a SCRIMMAGE with a last minute goal and now you crown them king? LIE played their bench equally, can't say the same for your team. If WSYL happens they won't even qualify. They still can't beat town team REGS or wins over quality teams. A win here or there does not make them good. Keep chasing and open your checkbook.

This is absolutely untrue. LIE did not play their bench equally. Neither did Igloo. You would need two scrimmages to have the 65 kids play. There were kids on both teams that did not play at all.

So all your kids classmates play on his travel team. He doesn't plan on making any new friends in high school and will only play with kids his own age in high school. Oh wait he has to play with kids up 2 or 3 years older. Oh 4 years older too that guy is like me a holdback or 13th grader. What do you mean I cant beat up on all younger kids anymore? But daddy he is older than me? Its not fair.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The demise of LIE has been greatly exaggerated. Congrats Forcegloo for picking up one player who makes up your entire offense. Not too hard to defend after getting exposed. BTW fine job on developing players, not.

Can someone explain the F0rc3gloo name? I’m sure I’m missing the obvious but please help.

Igloo used to be fairly diverse, Hasset, GC, Harborfields. Outsiders left because never got a fair shot with daddy coach. Added more Huntington kids. Force folded they went to Igloo. New coach takes over adds his hometown cooking. SOS

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

So all your kids classmates play on his travel team. He doesn't plan on making any new friends in high school and will only play with kids his own age in high school. Oh wait he has to play with kids up 2 or 3 years older. Oh 4 years older too that guy is like me a holdback or 13th grader. What do you mean I cant beat up on all younger kids anymore? But daddy he is older than me? Its not fair.

I need to put this through Google translate.

I laugh at the schedule for the Sunday bracket. They have 4 A teams and 4 b teams and split them two and two. This is why they change their schedule 30 times leading up to the event.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I laugh at the schedule for the Sunday bracket. They have 4 A teams and 4 b teams and split them two and two. This is why they change their schedule 30 times leading up to the event.

What of those are really A teams?

How do you play 30+ kids equally? ANSWER: THEY DONT. That works 1x in 100 games. That scrimmage must have been the 100th game. Cant be a 1 trick pony and be consistent.

Accurate statement here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I laugh at the schedule for the Sunday bracket. They have 4 A teams and 4 b teams and split them two and two. This is why they change their schedule 30 times leading up to the event.

What of those are really A teams?

Regulators is a B team . Enough already with that wanna be A team . False hope

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The demise of LIE has been greatly exaggerated. Congrats Forcegloo for picking up one player who makes up your entire offense. Not too hard to defend after getting exposed. BTW fine job on developing players, not.

So their entire offense was ONE player who was easy to defend once Choppers realized it YET Express still lost. So LIE was beaten by ONE kid. But their demise is greatly exaggerated....you my friend are delusional.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I laugh at the schedule for the Sunday bracket. They have 4 A teams and 4 b teams and split them two and two. This is why they change their schedule 30 times leading up to the event.

What of those are really A teams?

Don’t need to go 100 miles and blow two teams out when we at least have decent competition with LE and Tri State Select. Might as well just stay home.

Come on, no one keeps score in a scrimmage!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How do you play 30+ kids equally? ANSWER: THEY DONT. That works 1x in 100 games. That scrimmage must have been the 100th game. Cant be a 1 trick pony and be consistent.

The parents have allowed the directors to stack rosters to 30 kids and only play 1/2 of them. This is exactly the reason there are no B or developmental teams. B teams and divisions have become an absolute joke. I don't see it turning around anytime soon. You either sit and watch at the A level or are banished to second rate coaching and competition. Anyone care to comment or refute? What is the answer for kids on the cusp? On the flip side how many of these kids will be burnt out, injured or sick of playing lacrosse by the time senior year rolls around?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on, no one keeps score in a scrimmage!

Wrong

The parents are like the battered spouse that keeps coming back for more. "Write the check please. It will change, Really.... We are a top team. A non travel team model...swear...."

Ask the parents of the kids on the team that didn't play their son at all how "Huge" the "Win" was.... Id love to see their responses. "We beat Express..it was awesome. I paid $3500+, had my sons confidence destroyed and I sat there for 2 hrs, after 3 practices this week, watching other kids play that really aren't any better than the kids that didnt see the field." Thats some "Win" right there. Congrats!

Lax is a team game folks. The sooner these "coaches" realize that the sooner you will have an answer to the question above: "What is the answer for kids on the cusp? On the flip side how many of these kids will be burnt out, injured or sick of playing lacrosse by the time senior year rolls around?"

Some of these team rosters are around 30 kids or even more sometimes. That means 20, 25 kids standing on the sideline. Even if 10 get rotated in and sometimes this don’t happen, that’s 10,15 parents leaving the field angry. If your kid is a top player, nothing to worry about. If your kid is related to a coach, great friends with a coach, nothing to worry about. Then it’s everybody else. Lots of kids/parents fall into this everybody else category. These are the people who help finance the club. No loyalty to your kid, very little or no playing time. He goes in if it’s a blowout. If you are in this category, club lacrosse may not be a very good experience.

Anybody see team 91 schlong ? Come on, election day is over . Get out of the basement

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bigger? Yeah. But they outplayed them. Plain and simple. Give credit where it is due. The days of Exp are over. New sheriff in town and you can find him sitting in his Igloo. Now go away and dream about years past when that team used to be dominant.

Seriously. Igloo wins a SCRIMMAGE with a last minute goal and now you crown them king? LIE played their bench equally, can't say the same for your team. If WSYL happens they won't even qualify. They still can't beat town team REGS or wins over quality teams. A win here or there does not make them good. Keep chasing and open your checkbook.

This is absolutely untrue. LIE did not play their bench equally. Neither did Igloo. You would need two scrimmages to have the 65 kids play. There were kids on both teams that did not play at all.

there were kids in a "scrimmage" that did not play???

Enough with the scrimmage already. Please. Who cares. Igloo won the scrimmage. Great. Igloo beat sweetlax last week, Express lost to sweetlax last week. Every once in awhile teams lose a game. It’s happens. It’s called sports. 5 minutes after I drive out of the parking lot, the score of the scrimmage is out of my head. What stays in my head is, how did my kid play.

Or how he didnt play.....I think thats the point they are trying to make

So igloo played sweetlax, express played sweetlax . Anybody see 91 anywhere ? Do they play anymore or are they off until the spring ? Parents need to ask for a refund

91 did a play date with prime time this past Saturday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of these team rosters are around 30 kids or even more sometimes. That means 20, 25 kids standing on the sideline. Even if 10 get rotated in and sometimes this don’t happen, that’s 10,15 parents leaving the field angry. If your kid is a top player, nothing to worry about. If your kid is related to a coach, great friends with a coach, nothing to worry about. Then it’s everybody else. Lots of kids/parents fall into this everybody else category. These are the people who help finance the club. No loyalty to your kid, very little or no playing time. He goes in if it’s a blowout. If you are in this category, club lacrosse may not be a very good experience.

If the parent is in that situation they have no one to blame themselves. Surely they dont go in thinking, today is the day it changes and Johnny breaks in to the top 20 of the roster. Kid should ask the coach, that do I need to do to play and work to accomplish that. If they do and then dont play, ask again, work again and if it doesnt happen leave.........then dad should come on BOTC and complain. Until the kid asks and the dad leaves no complaining. Not everyone gets a trophy and not everyone gets playing time..........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of these team rosters are around 30 kids or even more sometimes. That means 20, 25 kids standing on the sideline. Even if 10 get rotated in and sometimes this don’t happen, that’s 10,15 parents leaving the field angry. If your kid is a top player, nothing to worry about. If your kid is related to a coach, great friends with a coach, nothing to worry about. Then it’s everybody else. Lots of kids/parents fall into this everybody else category. These are the people who help finance the club. No loyalty to your kid, very little or no playing time. He goes in if it’s a blowout. If you are in this category, club lacrosse may not be a very good experience.

If the parent is in that situation they have no one to blame themselves. Surely they dont go in thinking, today is the day it changes and Johnny breaks in to the top 20 of the roster. Kid should ask the coach, that do I need to do to play and work to accomplish that. If they do and then dont play, ask again, work again and if it doesnt happen leave.........then dad should come on BOTC and complain. Until the kid asks and the dad leaves no complaining. Not everyone gets a trophy and not everyone gets playing time..........

Thanks club director. Kids are invested in the clubs and it's heartbreaking for them to leave. BE HONEST WITH PARENTS AND PLAYERS. Stop dangling the playing time carrot and tell kids they're not good enough to play but you'd love to have them load up the team for the practice squad. Show some respect for the people that supported your organization. Yes we get it you want to win but at what cost.

Again, 2 way street...Parents and Coaches/Directors: Parents are free to leave & coaches have zero ability to cultivate a real team and develop players.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I laugh at the schedule for the Sunday bracket. They have 4 A teams and 4 b teams and split them two and two. This is why they change their schedule 30 times leading up to the event.

What of those are really A teams?

Regulators is a B team . Enough already with that wanna be A team . False hope

Regulators is a solid team and see they moved to play LE and Tri State select.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I laugh at the schedule for the Sunday bracket. They have 4 A teams and 4 b teams and split them two and two. This is why they change their schedule 30 times leading up to the event.

What of those are really A teams?

Regulators is a B team . Enough already with that wanna be A team . False hope

Regulators is a solid team and see they moved to play LE and Tri State select.

Is Tri State select any good?

Is anyone aware of O2 lacrosse, right on the NY/NJ border? How are they at this age group?

We played them in August. I would tend to say they are similar to Brotherly Love. A couple of solid and athletic players, just didn't seem to have much depth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I laugh at the schedule for the Sunday bracket. They have 4 A teams and 4 b teams and split them two and two. This is why they change their schedule 30 times leading up to the event.

What of those are really A teams?

Regulators is a B team . Enough already with that wanna be A team . False hope

Regulators is a solid team and see they moved to play LE and Tri State select.

Is Tri State select any good?

Yes, that’s a good bracket with Tri State, Leading Edge and The Regulators. If that is the 2way select vs 2way in the other bracket we have some very competitive games.

All overrated B teams, if you mean competitive among B teams than you are correct

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on, no one keeps score in a scrimmage!

Wrong

Ok I’ll correct myself. No one who understands how sports are played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, 2 way street...Parents and Coaches/Directors: Parents are free to leave & coaches have zero ability to cultivate a real team and develop players.

Disagree. Owners, directors, coaches are responsible for creating the culture and developing players. Open and honest communication leads to mutual trust. Yes parents are free to leave but loyalty and respect go a long way towards retention. Programs were never as cutthroat as they are now.

I don't understand why these clubs need to have rosters of 25+ kids. There is no rational way distribute playing time. I'm not saying it has to be equal but to travel hours each way only to stand on the sideline is demoralizing for a player of any age. I don't want to hear the coaches bs about effort equal playing time. Coach don't care they only want the W. They already know who their horses are so be honest. This shouldn't be college where 30 kids are on each team. Most HS teams don't even carry this many players. The B teams and lower tier A teams suffer because these huge rosters swallow up too many kids. I guess until the parents push back and refuse to travel it won't change. If you're happy being a practice player for a

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on, no one keeps score in a scrimmage!

Wrong

Ok I’ll correct myself. No one who understands how sports are played.

Well the 2026 Express parents have been hyping up the blowout scrimmage win over the Tigers for a few weeks.

You don’t understand why clubs have large rosters. I’ll explain it to you very simply. Money. It’s a simple thing to understand. 6 extra kids per team equal approximately 20 grand more money for the team. Some clubs have 10 teams, some clubs can have 20 teams, some clubs can have 30 teams, girls teams, B teams, C teams. Every parent with a check makes a team. So making an extra 20 grand per team turns out to be a very lucrative business decision. Those 6 extra kids aren’t happy, oh well. Sorry. Next year there will be 6 other kids whose parents will cut checks.

BINGO!!! Get that man a cigar and the Directors another Lexus.... Pay up!!!! Again tho, parents can choose to leave at any time but they dont. They stay quiet, like mice, then vent on this board...

Leaving at anytime. That’s not much of an option. First it’s a lot of money that was paid for the season. Second and more importantly, it would send a message of quitting to your kid. Start the season, finish the season. The season ends, you don’t go back. That’s how I see it.

Agreed, a lot of venting on this board but thy stay quiet and fall in line and don’t say a word to the directors that they say on here lol...also I love it when these same guys come in here after their sons team wins a game and explains it as “we” hahah as if they stepped in the field and played . Get a life and some balls , if you can’t say to a director what you say on here then keep quiet .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on, no one keeps score in a scrimmage!

Wrong

Ok I’ll correct myself. No one who understands how sports are played.

Well the 2026 Express parents have been hyping up the blowout scrimmage win over the Tigers for a few weeks.

When two of the top teams in the country play each other, you should probably keep score.

whats happening with NAL on the 14th?

Finish the season? I agree with that in "real world" circumstances....but in the Lax domain? C'mon man. Accepting lies & excuses, being discarded, having someone destroy your kid's self worth and getting zero in return for your "tuition"? If those are the lessons you want your kid to absorb then stay but then you need to pipe down. If not, you can walk at any time.

And if you paid for a full season, in advance, in the Covid era then 1. The directors love sheep that do that and 2. I have some magic beans for sale if your interested.

Not trying to be abrasive but that's just the way it is. "I put you in a detrimental situation for your development as a player and a young man but you have to finish it out" Say that aloud a few times and see if it still makes sense.... That's like saying "I paid for this dinner that is making you sick but eat it anyway" Wake up man.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on, no one keeps score in a scrimmage!

Wrong

Ok I’ll correct myself. No one who understands how sports are played.

Well the 2026 Express parents have been hyping up the blowout scrimmage win over the Tigers for a few weeks.

When two of the top teams in the country play each other, you should probably keep score.

Come on, no one keeps score in a scrimmage!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Finish the season? I agree with that in "real world" circumstances....but in the Lax domain? C'mon man. Accepting lies & excuses, being discarded, having someone destroy your kid's self worth and getting zero in return for your "tuition"? If those are the lessons you want your kid to absorb then stay but then you need to pipe down. If not, you can walk at any time.

And if you paid for a full season, in advance, in the Covid era then 1. The directors love sheep that do that and 2. I have some magic beans for sale if your interested.

Not trying to be abrasive but that's just the way it is. "I put you in a detrimental situation for your development as a player and a young man but you have to finish it out" Say that aloud a few times and see if it still makes sense.... That's like saying "I paid for this dinner that is making you sick but eat it anyway" Wake up man.

Not the original poster, and I'm the first person to say "Finish the season, then make a change." but - what you say makes a lot of sense. If you've been sold a load of garbage, there is no shame in moving on ASAP. The club won't care - they have your money already. I've heard of clubs giving reduced tuition to player looking to switch mid-season.

I’d say If someone makes your kid feel like a zero, worthless, degrades them etc. I’d confront that coach in 10 seconds. Plus leave the team. I don’t know anybody in that situation. I think the point was unhappy about roster sizes, kids not playing much, just not a real good situation. Clubs taking peoples money and more or less forgetting about them. Do you have your kid quit over this? I say finish the season and move on. Chalk it up to a mistake. Life lesson.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Come on, no one keeps score in a scrimmage!

Wrong

Ok I’ll correct myself. No one who understands how sports are played.

Well the 2026 Express parents have been hyping up the blowout scrimmage win over the Tigers for a few weeks.

When two of the top teams in the country play each other, you should probably keep score.

Come on, no one keeps score in a scrimmage!

Tigers? Never heard of them. And NO ONE keeps score in a scrimmage. No One...except B teams grasping at straws.

Please take this nonsense to the 2026 thread

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Please take this nonsense to the 2026 thread

No one watches a scrimmage. 2025 or 2026.

Going back to 2025, anyone see 91. Express has played almost 7 consecutive weeks ....have seen s2s, igloo, legacy but no 91. What happened ? Your parent company couldn’t make money in this environment so you stopped playing. Wow. What a mess over there .

Yes we do

Here’s a question
I’m assuming your a grown man, who has a son that doesn’t play for 91. The question is this. Why do you care? All that’s going on in the world, you actually care what other teams are doing. You don’t think that’s abnormal on your part?

I watch scrimmages and keep score. I’m sure I’m not the only one

No I don't think that's abnormal , here on long island we have several club teams that play each other often and are considered the better travel teams . So it's a question as to why we haven't seen one of them at all (team 91) . Nice dodge though . Your answer says it all.

Here's your answer...91 is falling apart at all grade levels . The corporate parent (dynamic ) doesn't want to pay for their teams to go out and play other people's tournaments. And since most of their "mylacrossetournaments" take place on long island and have been shut down their teams aren't playing . Very very simple ...get a refund ...other teams are playing and you aren't .

I do think it’s abnormal. I care about my 3 kids. I care about all their teams on all the sports they play. Period. As far as other kids go, other teams go. I just don’t care. I don’t care if other teams don’t practice much. I don’t care if other teams don’t play many tournaments. I don’t care if other teams have big rosters. I don’t care if a dad coach on other teams plays his son more than he should. I don’t care if other teams charge too much money. Back to my point. Why do you care? I don’t remember growing up and my parents caring about other teams my brother and I didn’t play on. I suggest you find a hobby. Find something that can occupy your thoughts more than OTHER kids youth lacrosse teams.

Guy , no skin in the game here but it seems they you are the one that needs the hobby . Why does anyone care ? Why is anyone on this forum? To ask questions that's why . If you don't like questions beings asked them don't come on here . Youre telling someone to find a hobby when all they did was ask a legitimate youth lacrosse team question. Get a grip and go back into hiding with your team 91 2025 schlong team .

Don't be surprised....when anyone at any garden level asks a question about 91 the trash bag parents get defensive right away. Their only answer is " why do you care ", " your kid stinks " " you're jealous of 91" etc....one can write the script . Brainless trash

Guy, you sound like a wash woman. Joeys team does this. Johnnys team does that. Billy’s team practices twice a week. Mikeys team cost lots of money. Tommy’s team doesn’t play enough tournaments. Blah blah blah. I got an idea, worry about your own kid and his team. Thanks for your concern though. Ok guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's your answer...91 is falling apart at all grade levels . The corporate parent (dynamic ) doesn't want to pay for their teams to go out and play other people's tournaments. And since most of their "mylacrossetournaments" take place on long island and have been shut down their teams aren't playing . Very very simple ...get a refund ...other teams are playing and you aren't .

completely innaccurate. given football shutdown mylacrossetournaments has more options than ever before. they have tournaments every weekend in nj, ct and middletown. 91 could have easily jumped in yesterday to play leading edge, express north and regulators.

Lol.....you just said it yourself. 91 could have easily jumped in and played ....but didn't . You just proved the posters point . Guess you did t realize that then you said they " could have " . Keep hiding that mediocre team

4th and 5th grade lax parents. The armpit of travel lax.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

4th and 5th grade lax parents. The armpit of travel lax.

While I can’t disagree, posted in the wrong thread.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lol.....you just said it yourself. 91 could have easily jumped in and played ....but didn't . You just proved the posters point . Guess you did t realize that then you said they " could have " . Keep hiding that mediocre team

See you at the NAL. And ask the Regulators how it went. I think they know what they need to work on now.

WHO CARES ABOUT 91???? The only positive about seeing them at any tournament is for the comedy show that the parents put on ...that and the 6 ft Tri-pod to film 13 yr old lacrosse is pretty amusing too. The audio on those clips must be legendary "Gotta be orange" .................

What about the funny blinged out shirts that the parents wear lol. And congratulations on beating the regulators , they are a B team . Take a bow

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about the funny blinged out shirts that the parents wear lol. And congratulations on beating the regulators , they are a B team . Take a bow

Regulators wanted a run from what I read here. Now that’s a problem? What is 91 supposed to do?

Aren’t they playing this weekend in the NAL which isn’t a Mylacrosse event is it? I’m just checking the details because there are so many blowhards on here.

And using the term Schlong is a bit much. The gutless wimp using the term should be made to eat his word. As this moves ahead, I would hope the moderator would stop it.

What is the point of this post? Seems like everyone has gotten off point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the point of this post? Seems like everyone has gotten off point.

I think everyone needs to pump the brakes and relax . do what you think is best for your son and that is it , everything else will fall into place . the recruiting piece is a couple of years away and the landscape has changed as to recruits and how coaches recruit ... the recruiting piece has changed drastically with the transfer portal and the ncaa granting extra years for current players , just have your son to continue to work hard

Doesnt matter LAx is about to get Squashed again soon due to Covid

Got a chance to watch 91 2025 today . I thought I was watching a PAL game where every kid takes the ball and runs to the cage to score . Awful .

Typical low self esteem parents of low self esteem kids trying to make themselves less depressed about their miserable lives by taking shots at the undisputed juggernaut of club lacrosse, team 91. Not a big 91 fan, but everyone know they are the most successful club and the business model for all other clubs.

2020 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #2 recruit in the country
2020 #1 recruit in the country
2022 #1 recruit in the country
US Club Lacrosse #1 Club in country
2020 WSYL champions
2023 WSYL champions
2024 WSYL champions

We all know I could go on and on, but suffice to say, they are THE club in the nation.

So if you’re trying to make yourself feel better by attempting to disparage the ultra successful, I suggest you try some thing else. Maybe bowl of ice cream??

No Rebels, no Igloo, no Regulators today. Seems about right, can’t play with the big boys when it counts especially right before a total shutdown of youth sports. Dodge, dive, dip, duck and dodge the competition.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Rebels, no Igloo, no Regulators today. Seems about right, can’t play with the big boys when it counts especially right before a total shutdown of youth sports. Dodge, dive, dip, duck and dodge the competition.

Not a 91 parent, but this is a ridiculous comment. Today was THE tournament of the Fall and 91 showed up. Ducking Rebels, Igloo and Regulators? Come on!!!! They showed up for Express, Express North, BBL, PT, Sweetlax. Those are the big boys. Not Rebels and Regulators.

This is a horrible team that has been hurt by the very poor coaching and strange mix of friends and family plus playing kids who are not good.

So Many Dropped Balls and Blown Assignments! PAL is generous.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Rebels, no Igloo, no Regulators today. Seems about right, can’t play with the big boys when it counts especially right before a total shutdown of youth sports. Dodge, dive, dip, duck and dodge the competition.

Not a 91 parent, but this is a ridiculous comment. Today was THE tournament of the Fall and 91 showed up. Ducking Rebels, Igloo and Regulators? Come on!!!! They showed up for Express, Express North, BBL, PT, Sweetlax. Those are the big boys. Not Rebels and Regulators.

It was a shot at rebels, igloo, and regulators

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical low self esteem parents of low self esteem kids trying to make themselves less depressed about their miserable lives by taking shots at the undisputed juggernaut of club lacrosse, team 91. Not a big 91 fan, but everyone know they are the most successful club and the business model for all other clubs.

2020 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #2 recruit in the country
2020 #1 recruit in the country
2022 #1 recruit in the country
US Club Lacrosse #1 Club in country
2020 WSYL champions
2023 WSYL champions
2024 WSYL champions

We all know I could go on and on, but suffice to say, they are THE club in the nation.

So if you’re trying to make yourself feel better by attempting to disparage the ultra successful, I suggest you try some thing else. Maybe bowl of ice cream??

Thanks for the history lesson 91 director . But your 2025 and 2026 teams are garbage . Not even a debate . Sae them today and they were horrible .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical low self esteem parents of low self esteem kids trying to make themselves less depressed about their miserable lives by taking shots at the undisputed juggernaut of club lacrosse, team 91. Not a big 91 fan, but everyone know they are the most successful club and the business model for all other clubs.

2020 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #2 recruit in the country
2020 #1 recruit in the country
2022 #1 recruit in the country
US Club Lacrosse #1 Club in country
2020 WSYL champions
2023 WSYL champions
2024 WSYL champions

We all know I could go on and on, but suffice to say, they are THE club in the nation.

So if you’re trying to make yourself feel better by attempting to disparage the ultra successful, I suggest you try some thing else. Maybe bowl of ice cream??

Hahaha....live in the past much ?

Hahaha, he says "not a 91 fan " then rattles off their whole history . What a weird dude .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical low self esteem parents of low self esteem kids trying to make themselves less depressed about their miserable lives by taking shots at the undisputed juggernaut of club lacrosse, team 91. Not a big 91 fan, but everyone know they are the most successful club and the business model for all other clubs.

2020 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #2 recruit in the country
2020 #1 recruit in the country
2022 #1 recruit in the country
US Club Lacrosse #1 Club in country
2020 WSYL champions
2023 WSYL champions
2024 WSYL champions

We all know I could go on and on, but suffice to say, they are THE club in the nation.

So if you’re trying to make yourself feel better by attempting to disparage the ultra successful, I suggest you try some thing else. Maybe bowl of ice cream??

Thanks for the history lesson 91 director . But your 2025 and 2026 teams are garbage . Not even a debate . Sae them today and they were horrible .

2025 blew up years ago and 2026 is plunging off a cliff. 2027 started showing cracks this year. Everyone jumping on the Express train. Choo choo! Coach C runs a lacrosse club, not a marketing organization pretending to be a lacrosse club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical low self esteem parents of low self esteem kids trying to make themselves less depressed about their miserable lives by taking shots at the undisputed juggernaut of club lacrosse, team 91. Not a big 91 fan, but everyone know they are the most successful club and the business model for all other clubs.

2020 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #2 recruit in the country
2020 #1 recruit in the country
2022 #1 recruit in the country
US Club Lacrosse #1 Club in country
2020 WSYL champions
2023 WSYL champions
2024 WSYL champions

We all know I could go on and on, but suffice to say, they are THE club in the nation.

So if you’re trying to make yourself feel better by attempting to disparage the ultra successful, I suggest you try some thing else. Maybe bowl of ice cream??

Hahaha....live in the past much ?

Wow great !! Kids gets 8-10k a yr for a 50k plus d1 school !!
Sign me up 👎

91 team is falling apart. Going to be a bunch of changes to the roster. Charging too much for a terrible product. Daddy ball is not working

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 team is falling apart. Going to be a bunch of changes to the roster. Charging too much for a terrible product. Daddy ball is not working

It’s worse than daddy ball. HC doesn’t even have a kid on the team. Still playing the average kids and making the customers happy. A few friends are locked in and the rest, well folks saw for themselves.

It would also be nice if the director would be on time. Maybe if he acted like he wanted to win, the players would take his example. The players are as disinterested as he is! Except he is counting the money.

Just like Express without the results!!!!!!!!!!

Is it true that there was a player on 91 that did not try out or attend any practice but still played?

Add $75 for a tryout to add kids and cut no one? And then get some guest player too?

Good luck suckers!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 team is falling apart. Going to be a bunch of changes to the roster. Charging too much for a terrible product. Daddy ball is not working

91MD is doing great!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Typical low self esteem parents of low self esteem kids trying to make themselves less depressed about their miserable lives by taking shots at the undisputed juggernaut of club lacrosse, team 91. Not a big 91 fan, but everyone know they are the most successful club and the business model for all other clubs.

2020 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #1 recruit in the country
2021 #2 recruit in the country
2020 #1 recruit in the country
2022 #1 recruit in the country
US Club Lacrosse #1 Club in country
2020 WSYL champions
2023 WSYL champions
2024 WSYL champions

We all know I could go on and on, but suffice to say, they are THE club in the nation.

So if you’re trying to make yourself feel better by attempting to disparage the ultra successful, I suggest you try some thing else. Maybe bowl of ice cream??

If you look at all this success you will find one thing in common. It’s Joe Spallina coaching his sons every year. Love him or detest him, he wins. He was always the big draw for players to come and a big reason for 91’s success. Once his kids are done he will be done coaching for 91 and finish off coaching his daughter. Without him the younger grades already have looked pretty bad (minus machine). 25 is not good. 26 is not good. 28 is ok. The rest are obviously too young to tell. I highly doubt Joe Spallina is going to volunteer to coach the 2034 oranges dragons once his kids go off to college.

91 Blast was very good when Joe S last coached 2025.

This guy who is the HC now is one of the owners and he stinks! Rips the kids regularly when he should rip himself.

A good long look in the mirror is what is needed. It will be ugly, but it might result in positive change. Or maybe not.

‘25 2nd best on LI, ‘27 best in LI, ‘28 best in LI, ‘29 best on LI. Really struggling they are

Originally Posted by Anonymous

‘25 2nd best on LI, ‘27 best in LI, ‘28 best in LI, ‘29 best on LI. Really struggling they are

Doesn’t change the fact that the coaching is bad! Director should step aside. Enough damage has been done. It can only get worse and the unexplainable losses are piling up.

All of these clubs are flawed ...not just 91. The directors all use the same playbook and definitely have "Club Lacrosse for dummies" on their nightstands... The pop up version as they probably cant read. But they sure know how to count: THEIR MONEY! Pay up.... Next payment due lax sheep! Dont be late or face a "late fee" penalty!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

‘25 2nd best on LI, ‘27 best in LI, ‘28 best in LI, ‘29 best on LI. Really struggling they are

Thanks Yoda

Maybe instead of bashing teams this forum can become a resource for parents who aren't sure how to best nurture their sons' love of lacrosse, help them get better, etc?

I don't care if my son ever steps foot on a college field. He loves lacrosse, plays for a solid B team that he starts for and plays most of the game, and he seems to be learning. Isn't that the point?

Well said here. What team does your son play for? Its all about learning the game, improving and stepping on the field and PLAYING in games. There are enough teams out there that there is a team for everyone. Sitting on the bench for a AA team and wearing the jacket around town doesnt help your kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Maybe instead of bashing teams this forum can become a resource for parents who aren't sure how to best nurture their sons' love of lacrosse, help them get better, etc?

I don't care if my son ever steps foot on a college field. He loves lacrosse, plays for a solid B team that he starts for and plays most of the game, and he seems to be learning. Isn't that the point?

That's why I come here but get nothing but nonsense from some 5 foot 5 guys who probably never played a sport in their lives.

I'd rather not say who he plays for to maintain the anonymity here but he's happy and his coach is pushing him HARD. As far as I'm concerned, that's all I can ask for. He gets better every week.

I will say that my son is one of the "impossible" on-age 6' kids though. That was another weird wrinkle of this thread. People acting like they know every kid because they know THEIR kid.

There are probably a lot of very smart people here, but they get caught up in bs about only the top top top teams mattering. People keep telling me that some the best varsity players my son will eventually play with probably haven't even touched a stick yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd rather not say who he plays for to maintain the anonymity here but he's happy and his coach is pushing him HARD. As far as I'm concerned, that's all I can ask for. He gets better every week.

I will say that my son is one of the "impossible" on-age 6' kids though. That was another weird wrinkle of this thread. People acting like they know every kid because they know THEIR kid.

There are probably a lot of very smart people here, but they get caught up in bs about only the top top top teams mattering. People keep telling me that some the best varsity players my son will eventually play with probably haven't even touched a stick yet.

lol, maybe that was the case 25 years ago. Get real... that is not today's sport. Cut to the chase, if you want your kid to play at the college level, they belong at a big AA program. Can you make it at a 2nd level team sure... but you can also get drafted out of 1AA to the NFL... just does not happen frequently.

91 Shock 2025 needs to dump Jim the Donkey!

Dump The Donkey!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Shock 2025 needs to dump Jim the Donkey!

Dump The Donkey!

His 2019 team was bad. Two teams, 6 years apart. It can't be all the kids faults. That would be like 50 kids. The math doesn't add up unless you look at the common denominator.

I've heard more than a few clubs practicing indoors. How is that even possible? Are they wearing masks or are all bets off until it gets shut down? Our club is still looking for space so just looking for some guidance before it happens. To allo you trolls, yes I know it's a "choice" but try telling that to a 14 yo that all his friends are going but not him. .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd rather not say who he plays for to maintain the anonymity here but he's happy and his coach is pushing him HARD. As far as I'm concerned, that's all I can ask for. He gets better every week.

I will say that my son is one of the "impossible" on-age 6' kids though. That was another weird wrinkle of this thread. People acting like they know every kid because they know THEIR kid.

There are probably a lot of very smart people here, but they get caught up in bs about only the top top top teams mattering. People keep telling me that some the best varsity players my son will eventually play with probably haven't even touched a stick yet.

lol, maybe that was the case 25 years ago. Get real... that is not today's sport. Cut to the chase, if you want your kid to play at the college level, they belong at a big AA program. Can you make it at a 2nd level team sure... but you can also get drafted out of 1AA to the NFL... just does not happen frequently.

Silly statement. And completely not true. Plenty of D1 commits who are not part of the 91, express or Igloo. The top programs will def have more D1 commits. But to say you need to play at top AA program to play D1 is just not true.

This board is for nonsense, not factual posts like the one above. ...C'mon man...you should know that by now. None of these kids are playing pro and none of the parents that are posting this nonsense are to be taken seriously. You see how they behave and conduct themselves? I appreciate the attempt to steer this in the right direction but you are trying to feed filet mignon and caviar to pigs.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'd rather not say who he plays for to maintain the anonymity here but he's happy and his coach is pushing him HARD. As far as I'm concerned, that's all I can ask for. He gets better every week.

I will say that my son is one of the "impossible" on-age 6' kids though. That was another weird wrinkle of this thread. People acting like they know every kid because they know THEIR kid.

There are probably a lot of very smart people here, but they get caught up in bs about only the top top top teams mattering. People keep telling me that some the best varsity players my son will eventually play with probably haven't even touched a stick yet.

lol, maybe that was the case 25 years ago. Get real... that is not today's sport. Cut to the chase, if you want your kid to play at the college level, they belong at a big AA program. Can you make it at a 2nd level team sure... but you can also get drafted out of 1AA to the NFL... just does not happen frequently.

You should like someone whose son is on a big AA program.

Can we go an entire page of this forum without mentioning AA or 91? Seems impossible.

My son is having fun and getting better. He's 13. He's nowhere near a final product (he has size 13 feet and still hasn't grown into them yet). I want him on the field playing rather than sitting on a bench on an AA team that I'm overpaying for. Maybe you're different, but I'm not wrong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This board is for nonsense, not factual posts like the one above. ...C'mon man...you should know that by now. None of these kids are playing pro and none of the parents that are posting this nonsense are to be taken seriously. You see how they behave and conduct themselves? I appreciate the attempt to steer this in the right direction but you are trying to feed filet mignon and caviar to pigs.....

You're probably right. I tried.

Is there anywhere else to have the real discussion though? About how to help support our sons? Help them get better? I assume any other boards are filled with the same people, so maybe not.

I would say there are probably a few "normal" parents out there that feel the same way and those are the people you should be engaging. That, or talk to non-lacrosse, non-bias people as they see things in a much clearer perspective. You seem to be on the right track tho. Have your son continue to play and get in the reps. The rest of it will take care of itself.

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

I’m sure the current goalie and his family that have been there the past few years are happy as well. You used the word ugly. Great word to describe it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

Now that the contenders don’t to fly to across the country, every team will load up with on age players I suspect. Which is completely fine and within the rules. You might even see Maryland stack a team.

Wait a second, a 2024 playing on 2025? No shame from 91, hypocritical.

If team 91 wins anything this year I’ll come on here and pay your sons next year full tuition for 91. Team 91 2025 & 2026 are god awful.....hard to watch .

I have watched both the team 91 2025 and 2026 teams play this fall and you have a better chance at hitting the lotto than either one of those teams winning anything remotely close to a World Series .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

The WP goalie looks impressive and puts on a good show, but it's a show and that is it. The other WP goalie is much better, makes a lot more saves with less showboating and safer clears. 91 will need more than that kid to make a difference.

Question. How does any team stack a roster? 25 kids per team get to be on a roster for WSYL. If teams have 25 or more, which seems like they all do. How do kids get added. Do teams actually tell kids who are on the team, your are not coming with us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've heard more than a few clubs practicing indoors. How is that even possible? Are they wearing masks or are all bets off until it gets shut down? Our club is still looking for space so just looking for some guidance before it happens. To allo you trolls, yes I know it's a "choice" but try telling that to a 14 yo that all his friends are going but not him. .

We are scheduled to start up in the next few weeks. Sort of nuts given what is going on. The directors claim to be all about the kids but we all know what would happen if we opted out for the winter.

Jesus. You guys are OBSESSED with 91. It's a little disturbing.

Few things:

1. 91 Noone cares They are the same as every other club.

2. Indoor practices: Yep, they gonna cram lax indoors down your throats so they dont have to issue a refund come spring with Covid nearing all time highs. That or they will have them on an iced over pond or field in some desolate area. They are teaching the kids to detest lax at this point.

But the solution is easy: Just say no. Or stop complaining Noone is making you go. You can be a leader or a follower... if you choose to follow you get what you deserve. More fees, frozen limbs and a boatful of lies. ALL ABOARD!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question. How does any team stack a roster? 25 kids per team get to be on a roster for WSYL. If teams have 25 or more, which seems like they all do. How do kids get added. Do teams actually tell kids who are on the team, your are not coming with us.

Yes, or they make 2 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

LI Express will run the table at the 2025 & 2026 ages.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

LI Express will run the table at the 2025 & 2026 ages.

Nah, Md will take both

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

LI Express will run the table at the 2025 & 2026 ages.

2026 had 2 one goal wins this weekend correct?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

LI Express will run the table at the 2025 & 2026 ages.

2026 had 2 one goal wins this weekend correct?

WHO CARES

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

The WP goalie looks impressive and puts on a good show, but it's a show and that is it. The other WP goalie is much better, makes a lot more saves with less showboating and safer clears. 91 will need more than that kid to make a difference.

The boy that’s playing for the 2025 team starts every game for the Wolfpack. I highly doubt that he plays second fiddle to anyone on that team. Definitely one of the elite 2024 goalies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

LI Express will run the table at the 2025 & 2026 ages.

2026 had 2 one goal wins this weekend correct?

WHO CARES

Maybe the guy who said that LIE 25 & 26 will run the table. Oh, tap your caps lock button. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

LI Express will run the table at the 2025 & 2026 ages.

2026 had 2 one goal wins this weekend correct?

WHO CARES

Settle down

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question. How does any team stack a roster? 25 kids per team get to be on a roster for WSYL. If teams have 25 or more, which seems like they all do. How do kids get added. Do teams actually tell kids who are on the team, your are not coming with us.

You don't think they are going to change that. Wait and see. Why do you think the clubs all took that many kids.

Let’s see. what’s the answer to that question?
A) they care about 29 kids so much, they want them to develop into good lax players.

B) 12 kids could get hurt, so 18 are left. That’s a great number.

C) 29 kids were so good at tryouts, unable to go under that number.

D) 29 tuitions is 20 grand more revenue then 24 tuitions.

Im going with answer D

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let’s see. what’s the answer to that question?
A) they care about 29 kids so much, they want them to develop into good lax players.

B) 12 kids could get hurt, so 18 are left. That’s a great number.

C) 29 kids were so good at tryouts, unable to go under that number.

D) 29 tuitions is 20 grand more revenue then 24 tuitions.

Im going with answer D

This is isnt PAL. Like it or not travel lacrosse is a business. What kind of person would turn down money for his business. If people are willing to pay 4K to sit on the bench and not play that’s on them. Not the club owners. Would you tell them “sorry.....I can’t take your money. You probably won’t pay much.” Of course you wouldn’t. You think Mike C is bad? He’s nothing compared to Carol Rose. Carol Rose has been doing this for years and making a fortune. She has 5-6 teams in some age groups !!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

The WP goalie looks impressive and puts on a good show, but it's a show and that is it. The other WP goalie is much better, makes a lot more saves with less showboating and safer clears. 91 will need more than that kid to make a difference.

The boy that’s playing for the 2025 team starts every game for the Wolfpack. I highly doubt that he plays second fiddle to anyone on that team. Definitely one of the elite 2024 goalies.

Doubt all you want, but smart coaches put the better goalie in the 2H when there is less time to hold a lead or stage a comeback.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question. How does any team stack a roster? 25 kids per team get to be on a roster for WSYL. If teams have 25 or more, which seems like they all do. How do kids get added. Do teams actually tell kids who are on the team, your are not coming with us.

You don't think they are going to change that. Wait and see. Why do you think the clubs all took that many kids.

Yes, they tell kids they are not going. And those people actually stay on the team thinking they’ll kid will start one. So funny.

Well I’m no saint. I’m no mother Teresa. Not by a long shot. I’m also not heartless. Running a business requires a certain degree of integrity. Imagine this conversation to a few families. Our team qualified for the World Series, we are so excited to go, however your son is unable to attend. We are adding 4 kids, not on the team, so we need to slash our roster. Can you imagine having 4 of those conversations? Can you imagine the hurt those kids would have? Being on the team for 8 months, some kids years, practicing, friendships etc. I would want to win as a coach, yes. But I’d rather lose than have to do that. That to me is as bad as it gets.

You think they care about how the kid feels? They care about saying "We competed at WSYL' so they can expand their program next year and cash even more checks. And if a kid leaves, there are 10 more right behind him. A team, B team, C-team......Z team. Cha Ching! Thanks and come again!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well I’m no saint. I’m no mother Teresa. Not by a long shot. I’m also not heartless. Running a business requires a certain degree of integrity. Imagine this conversation to a few families. Our team qualified for the World Series, we are so excited to go, however your son is unable to attend. We are adding 4 kids, not on the team, so we need to slash our roster. Can you imagine having 4 of those conversations? Can you imagine the hurt those kids would have? Being on the team for 8 months, some kids years, practicing, friendships etc. I would want to win as a coach, yes. But I’d rather lose than have to do that. That to me is as bad as it gets.

That's why they will likely have 2 teams entered. A top team and a second team. No one feels left out, possibly both qualify, but only one has a real chance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well I’m no saint. I’m no mother Teresa. Not by a long shot. I’m also not heartless. Running a business requires a certain degree of integrity. Imagine this conversation to a few families. Our team qualified for the World Series, we are so excited to go, however your son is unable to attend. We are adding 4 kids, not on the team, so we need to slash our roster. Can you imagine having 4 of those conversations? Can you imagine the hurt those kids would have? Being on the team for 8 months, some kids years, practicing, friendships etc. I would want to win as a coach, yes. But I’d rather lose than have to do that. That to me is as bad as it gets.

If you have 29 kids on the team, at least 5 are never playing. They already know where they stand. Don't forget, holdbacks can't go. That could mean your 29 man roster is really only 20.

They will expand the roster for WSYL...More $ for everyone.... Body By Jake gets paid, directors get paid, kids get hosed. Nicely done. Soon it will be 2 age groups every year at WSYL...oh wait, it already is, for this year. The WSYL is a glorified playdate with a much bigger price tag. But you get that "free" Warp mini. Sooooooooooooooooooooo lame

Nobody has sent 2 teams that I remember.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They will expand the roster for WSYL...More $ for everyone.... Body By Jake gets paid, directors get paid, kids get hosed. Nicely done. Soon it will be 2 age groups every year at WSYL...oh wait, it already is, for this year. The WSYL is a glorified playdate with a much bigger price tag. But you get that "free" Warp mini. Sooooooooooooooooooooo lame

Some teams need to trim the fat. Max roster is 23, plus 2 goalies. So a roster of 28-30 will need to cut 25% of their roster, or more if they are looking to add new talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody has sent 2 teams that I remember.

Express is planning on it.

WSYL will expand the roster size. The directors are already lobbying for it. "Cuting fat" is cutting profit. Not gonna happen. Just be glad the "event" is in DC this yr and not Denver...and that's even if it happens due to Covid. Flipside: if that happens they will have 3 age groups in 2022... Lovely. Thats alot of T shirts.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody has sent 2 teams that I remember.

Express is planning on it.

I think they are at 26, not sure about 25

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nobody has sent 2 teams that I remember.

Express is planning on it.

I think they are at 26, not sure about 25

Some programs have tried to qualify with 2 teams, just hasn't worked out. Now with fat rosters there will be more. Or WSYL will cave and allow teams 30 players. Win Win for clubs and WSYL, more players = more $$$$, that's all it's about. Why do you think the WSYL was created anyway? Generate revenue. Oh wait my bad, it's about the kids, says the director as he's telling you he has 10 more kids who want to join your team. Congratulations you've been played.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

The WP goalie looks impressive and puts on a good show, but it's a show and that is it. The other WP goalie is much better, makes a lot more saves with less showboating and safer clears. 91 will need more than that kid to make a difference.

The boy that’s playing for the 2025 team starts every game for the Wolfpack. I highly doubt that he plays second fiddle to anyone on that team. Definitely one of the elite 2024 goalies.

Doubt all you want, but smart coaches put the better goalie in the 2H when there is less time to hold a lead or stage a comeback.

You’re obviously not a lacrosse coach. Teams always start their best in hopes of getting the lead and then put the 2nd string guy in, to try to hold it. Worst case scenario, coach can always go back to the starter if he needs to. Or just leave him in the whole game, if the starter is red hot. So coach has several options by starting best goalie. That’s how it works in lacrosse, my friend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WSYL will expand the roster size. The directors are already lobbying for it. "Cuting fat" is cutting profit. Not gonna happen. Just be glad the "event" is in DC this yr and not Denver...and that's even if it happens due to Covid. Flipside: if that happens they will have 3 age groups in 2022... Lovely. Thats alot of T shirts.....

I would expect that they keep 7th and 8th grade years ongoing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

The WP goalie looks impressive and puts on a good show, but it's a show and that is it. The other WP goalie is much better, makes a lot more saves with less showboating and safer clears. 91 will need more than that kid to make a difference.

The boy that’s playing for the 2025 team starts every game for the Wolfpack. I highly doubt that he plays second fiddle to anyone on that team. Definitely one of the elite 2024 goalies.

Doubt all you want, but smart coaches put the better goalie in the 2H when there is less time to hold a lead or stage a comeback.

You’re obviously not a lacrosse coach. Teams always start their best in hopes of getting the lead and then put the 2nd string guy in, to try to hold it. Worst case scenario, coach can always go back to the starter if he needs to. Or just leave him in the whole game, if the starter is red hot. So coach has several options by starting best goalie. That’s how it works in lacrosse, my friend.

You better talk to Brian Spallina or Jimmy Mule and set them straight. They’ve got it all wrong according to you.

They obviously do have it all wrong as their 2025 team is garbage

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WSYL will expand the roster size. The directors are already lobbying for it. "Cuting fat" is cutting profit. Not gonna happen. Just be glad the "event" is in DC this yr and not Denver...and that's even if it happens due to Covid. Flipside: if that happens they will have 3 age groups in 2022... Lovely. Thats alot of T shirts.....

I would expect that they keep 7th and 8th grade years ongoing.

I think MD teams will win both 2025 and 2026 this year. Many clubs down there are going all in to do a full sweep of title.

What does all in mean? So Long Island teams aren’t all in? Are they half in? Are they 3/4 in?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does all in mean? So Long Island teams aren’t all in? Are they half in? Are they 3/4 in?

They are adding all-star players to replace the large holes of older aged holdbacks. Plus the quality of players and clubs appears to be stronger than LI. So the combination of those two factors is going to make it very hard for LI to do anything but lose this year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does all in mean? So Long Island teams aren’t all in? Are they half in? Are they 3/4 in?

Just the tip

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does all in mean? So Long Island teams aren’t all in? Are they half in? Are they 3/4 in?

They are adding all-star players to replace the large holes of older aged holdbacks. Plus the quality of players and clubs appears to be stronger than LI. So the combination of those two factors is going to make it very hard for LI to do anything but lose this year.

That's why they play the games.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does all in mean? So Long Island teams aren’t all in? Are they half in? Are they 3/4 in?

They are adding all-star players to replace the large holes of older aged holdbacks. Plus the quality of players and clubs appears to be stronger than LI. So the combination of those two factors is going to make it very hard for LI to do anything but lose this year.

That's why they play the games.

What is LI doing to be competitive this year at WS? Nothing. You will be embarrassed as MD rocks your fragile LI bubble.

Rocks your fragile LI bubble. Please pay attention during your classroom zoom class kid.

Speaking of bubble.... The Covid bubble is gonna burst and all of your hopes and dreams will go up in smoke. Maybe your kid can take up an instrument. Its good to see that uneducated, illiterate half-wits are all over the map, not just isolated to 1 "bubble". You clowns all belong to the same circus. Now dance for us clowns, DANCE!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Speaking of bubble.... The Covid bubble is gonna burst and all of your hopes and dreams will go up in smoke. Maybe your kid can take up an instrument. Its good to see that uneducated, illiterate half-wits are all over the map, not just isolated to 1 "bubble". You clowns all belong to the same circus. Now dance for us clowns, DANCE!!!!

What IS that? What kind of sickness do you have with dancing clowns. All I have to say is you are going to be in a world of hurt come July and that 5 hour drive home is going to be long and sad. You should make sure to pack a box of tissues.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 going all the way again this year at the WSYL, which will make it #4 world championships for 91. The acquisition of the 2024 Wolfpack goalie solidified it. A total stud between the pipes. The result is now a forgone conclusion. Good luck to the teams competing for the runner up spot. But be careful what you wish for, because it IS going to be ugly!

The WP goalie looks impressive and puts on a good show, but it's a show and that is it. The other WP goalie is much better, makes a lot more saves with less showboating and safer clears. 91 will need more than that kid to make a difference.

The boy that’s playing for the 2025 team starts every game for the Wolfpack. I highly doubt that he plays second fiddle to anyone on that team. Definitely one of the elite 2024 goalies.

Doubt all you want, but smart coaches put the better goalie in the 2H when there is less time to hold a lead or stage a comeback.

You’re obviously not a lacrosse coach. Teams always start their best in hopes of getting the lead and then put the 2nd string guy in, to try to hold it. Worst case scenario, coach can always go back to the starter if he needs to. Or just leave him in the whole game, if the starter is red hot. So coach has several options by starting best goalie. That’s how it works in lacrosse, my friend.

You better talk to Brian Spallina or Jimmy Mule and set them straight. They’ve got it all wrong according to you.

You’ll be lucky is Mule even shows up for the WS. This is the same guy that had a family BBQ and skipped the NLF. Brian Spallina will probably have to wash his hair that weekend so he won’t be able to fill in.....

What’s up with Team 24. Are they still Nassau and Suffolk, or is it all shifted out to Suffolk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any solid B team options in Nassau or West Suffolk?

When you say B team so you mean a 2nd team at a club or a single club team like True Blue and the Turtles that compete on the B level

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are there any solid B team options in Nassau or West Suffolk?

When you say B team so you mean a 2nd team at a club or a single club team like True Blue and the Turtles that compete on the B level

Stay away from true blue. The team fell apart just like most of the other teams in the true blue program. When programs teams fall apart at all ages it’s not the kids faults but the directors will forever blame everyone else but themselves.

91’s B team looked decent this fall. We played them twice and they beat us twice. We had beaten them last year. Maybe reach out to them?

Does anyone know of any winter leagues going on this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does all in mean? So Long Island teams aren’t all in? Are they half in? Are they 3/4 in?

They are adding all-star players to replace the large holes of older aged holdbacks. Plus the quality of players and clubs appears to be stronger than LI. So the combination of those two factors is going to make it very hard for LI to do anything but lose this year.

That's why they play the games.

What is LI doing to be competitive this year at WS? Nothing. You will be embarrassed as MD rocks your fragile LI bubble.

They say this every year and every year Long Island wins. The only finals Maryland got into was the first year when they let some holdbacks play. 91 from Long Island still crushed the Crabs that year. I agree Long Island can’t win every year but up until now they have proven to be the best. All the talk won’t change that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91’s B team looked decent this fall. We played them twice and they beat us twice. We had beaten them last year. Maybe reach out to them?

Does 91 have 3 teams?

91's 2025 A team is awful so not sure how their B team beat your team ....that's saying a lot for whatever team you're son is on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91’s B team looked decent this fall. We played them twice and they beat us twice. We had beaten them last year. Maybe reach out to them?

Yes, they are good. The better 2nd teams are 91, Express and Rush. They are all organized, have good coaches, and that will translate into a positive experience. All might not win every game, but the commitment and is there. Igloo and Shore to Shore have 2nd teams, but don’t know much about them. The rest of the 2nd teams you probably want to do your research on.

No, only 2

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s up with Team 24. Are they still Nassau and Suffolk, or is it all shifted out to Suffolk.

We played them this fall. Good team. Asked one of the dads and he said it's mostly Suffolk kids with some Nassau to travel east.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91’s B team looked decent this fall. We played them twice and they beat us twice. We had beaten them last year. Maybe reach out to them?

Yes, they are good. The better 2nd teams are 91, Express and Rush. They are all organized, have good coaches, and that will translate into a positive experience. All might not win every game, but the commitment and is there. Igloo and Shore to Shore have 2nd teams, but don’t know much about them. The rest of the 2nd teams you probably want to do your research on.

Express B team isn't very good. They just got shut out by 24 a couple weeks ago.

91s A team is garbage so I doubt their B team is good

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91’s B team looked decent this fall. We played them twice and they beat us twice. We had beaten them last year. Maybe reach out to them?

Does 91 have 3 teams?

91 will have as many teams as kids show up for tryouts. In 2025, it isn't that many 😂

the obvious jealousy of 91 on this thread is amazing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91’s B team looked decent this fall. We played them twice and they beat us twice. We had beaten them last year. Maybe reach out to them?

Yes, they are good. The better 2nd teams are 91, Express and Rush. They are all organized, have good coaches, and that will translate into a positive experience. All might not win every game, but the commitment and is there. Igloo and Shore to Shore have 2nd teams, but don’t know much about them. The rest of the 2nd teams you probably want to do your research on.

Express B team isn't very good. They just got shut out by 24 a couple weeks ago.

Fake news.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the obvious jealousy of 91 on this thread is amazing.

Why would anyone be jealous of a garbage team that hides from good competition, explain that 91 dad

Express B is not good. Their AA team is carrying a roster in the mid to high 30's. That's more than enough players for two teams. So basically the best player on Express B was like the 40th to 50th best player at tryouts. Because I'm sure a lot of people walk once they find out they're not going to be on the top team. Express, 91 and Igloo carry a lot of players on their top teams. If you're looking at their B teams, those players are going to be way down on the organizational depth chart.

In terms of B teams, Express B is right there with the better teams in the age group (i.e.Turtles, 91,etc...) The fact that the AA team carry's a large roster is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express B is not good. Their AA team is carrying a roster in the mid to high 30's. That's more than enough players for two teams. So basically the best player on Express B was like the 40th to 50th best player at tryouts. Because I'm sure a lot of people walk once they find out they're not going to be on the top team. Express, 91 and Igloo carry a lot of players on their top teams. If you're looking at their B teams, those players are going to be way down on the organizational depth chart.

I agree with the comments above. It's become a money grab for ALL of the programs. Overloaded rosters at the A team ensure the more money in the program. Half the players sit there and watch but at least the parents can drive around with the team decal on their car. If they have enough for a weak second team they'll throw something together. It's all based on numbers at tryouts. How many times have you heard players are just dying to come here? BTW, 2nd tier players and second rate coaching DOES NOT get you lower prices. It gets you garbage coaching and nothing more than one or two average players.

Until people push back or some sort of regulations are enacted, the stink known as program owners will continue to clean up. They advertise all the recruited athletes they produced. Newsflash, most if not all of those players would have gotten into the same university or better had they spent the same amount on tutors or test prep. I'm all for playing at the next level but at what cost. Does anyone really care that you played 3rd midfield for an unknown university. Don't give me the line that these kids are using lacrosse to get a better education because it's not true. Play, have fun take it as far as you can, get an education make connections, move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express B is not good. Their AA team is carrying a roster in the mid to high 30's. That's more than enough players for two teams. So basically the best player on Express B was like the 40th to 50th best player at tryouts. Because I'm sure a lot of people walk once they find out they're not going to be on the top team. Express, 91 and Igloo carry a lot of players on their top teams. If you're looking at their B teams, those players are going to be way down on the organizational depth chart.

I agree with the comments above. It's become a money grab for ALL of the programs. Overloaded rosters at the A team ensure the more money in the program. Half the players sit there and watch but at least the parents can drive around with the team decal on their car. If they have enough for a weak second team they'll throw something together. It's all based on numbers at tryouts. How many times have you heard players are just dying to come here? BTW, 2nd tier players and second rate coaching DOES NOT get you lower prices. It gets you garbage coaching and nothing more than one or two average players.

Until people push back or some sort of regulations are enacted, the stink known as program owners will continue to clean up. They advertise all the recruited athletes they produced. Newsflash, most if not all of those players would have gotten into the same university or better had they spent the same amount on tutors or test prep. I'm all for playing at the next level but at what cost. Does anyone really care that you played 3rd midfield for an unknown university. Don't give me the line that these kids are using lacrosse to get a better education because it's not true. Play, have fun take it as far as you can, get an education make connections, move on.

you sounded like you knew what you were saying until you said lacrosse does not get you a better education , i would like to have your kid apply to YALE , Princeton, UVA , UNC , Duke without lacrosse and come back on here and let us know how that worked out . If you are good enough to play at those schools you will get in because of lacrosse if you are trying to get in on just academics you have zero shot that is a FACT . So keep working hard in classroom and on lax field and hopefully in the end an opportunity presents itself

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In terms of B teams, Express B is right there with the better teams in the age group (i.e.Turtles, 91,etc...) The fact that the AA team carry's a large roster is irrelevant.

Yep, always critics out there. The coaches are dedicated and the boys get a ton of lax.

beyond obsessed with 91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the obvious jealousy of 91 on this thread is amazing.

Why would anyone be jealous of a garbage team that hides from good competition, explain that 91 dad

We have a lot to be thankful for this season.
Thank you directors for having rosters of 30+ kids so you can play 15 and have the others stand and watch.
Thank you WSYL for taking our money and making us drag it out another year.
Thank you clubs for jamming us indoors on terrible fields so you can charge us for winter training.
Thank you directors for continuing to claim you lost money last year but somehow the math doesn't add up.
Thank you BIG 3 for continuing to chase each other like monkey see monkey do and abandon your original real mission statements.
Thank you for continuing to say its about the kids but its really all about the bottom line.
Thank you owners for bashing Chanster but not so secretly trying to copy his formula.
Thank you clubs for offering less each year but continuing to raise prices.

All very true. But let me ask you a question. This a free country. We have a choice, be part of club lax or not be part of club lax. We all know the BS that comes with it. So the question is, Why don’t you choose the second option and not have your son in club lax?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We have a lot to be thankful for this season.
Thank you directors for having rosters of 30+ kids so you can play 15 and have the others stand and watch.
Thank you WSYL for taking our money and making us drag it out another year.
Thank you clubs for jamming us indoors on terrible fields so you can charge us for winter training.
Thank you directors for continuing to claim you lost money last year but somehow the math doesn't add up.
Thank you BIG 3 for continuing to chase each other like monkey see monkey do and abandon your original real mission statements.
Thank you for continuing to say its about the kids but its really all about the bottom line.
Thank you owners for bashing Chanster but not so secretly trying to copy his formula.
Thank you clubs for offering less each year but continuing to raise prices.

As long as there is a line of people ready to pay for what is being offered it will continue to decline. This is a business first and it was never about the kids. Every business has a caring mission statement. I never understood how anyone ever thought these clubs are not doing this for money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All very true. But let me ask you a question. This a free country. We have a choice, be part of club lax or not be part of club lax. We all know the BS that comes with it. So the question is, Why don’t you choose the second option and not have your son in club lax?

Because people chase the best teams.

Let your son choose for himself. Just my opinion. I gave my son the choice to play or not he chose to play. Let him tryout wherever he wants. He emphatically chose Express. The boys are the ones playing, let them choose where. You might be happily surprised.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let your son choose for himself. Just my opinion. I gave my son the choice to play or not he chose to play. Let him tryout wherever he wants. He emphatically chose Express. The boys are the ones playing, let them choose where. You might be happily surprised.

We did and IMHO he chose wrongly. Doesn't change the fact that clubs are ripping us off and the owners are person. How have the better teams remained good? NOT by developing teams and chemistry but by importing new and better players each year.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express B is not good. Their AA team is carrying a roster in the mid to high 30's. That's more than enough players for two teams. So basically the best player on Express B was like the 40th to 50th best player at tryouts. Because I'm sure a lot of people walk once they find out they're not going to be on the top team. Express, 91 and Igloo carry a lot of players on their top teams. If you're looking at their B teams, those players are going to be way down on the organizational depth chart.

I agree with the comments above. It's become a money grab for ALL of the programs. Overloaded rosters at the A team ensure the more money in the program. Half the players sit there and watch but at least the parents can drive around with the team decal on their car. If they have enough for a weak second team they'll throw something together. It's all based on numbers at tryouts. How many times have you heard players are just dying to come here? BTW, 2nd tier players and second rate coaching DOES NOT get you lower prices. It gets you garbage coaching and nothing more than one or two average players.

Until people push back or some sort of regulations are enacted, the stink known as program owners will continue to clean up. They advertise all the recruited athletes they produced. Newsflash, most if not all of those players would have gotten into the same university or better had they spent the same amount on tutors or test prep. I'm all for playing at the next level but at what cost. Does anyone really care that you played 3rd midfield for an unknown university. Don't give me the line that these kids are using lacrosse to get a better education because it's not true. Play, have fun take it as far as you can, get an education make connections, move on.

you sounded like you knew what you were saying until you said lacrosse does not get you a better education , i would like to have your kid apply to YALE , Princeton, UVA , UNC , Duke without lacrosse and come back on here and let us know how that worked out . If you are good enough to play at those schools you will get in because of lacrosse if you are trying to get in on just academics you have zero shot that is a FACT . So keep working hard in classroom and on lax field and hopefully in the end an opportunity presents itself

The point is stop fixating on lacrosse as your ticket to college and concentrate on grades. How many of those lacrosse players are NOT getting in because of their grades. How many current youth players spending 10k per year are good enough to even play at the college level from a school you've heard of?

You should be Thanking yourself for not having the stones to JUST SAY NO..... Its all true, what you wrote, but you dont have to do it. You dont HAVE TO put your kid in an indoor facility with 75 other kids. You CHOOSE to...Big difference.

Is there a Philly team for 2025 WSYL that my kid could tryout for or is Tribal doing one ? Any other teams looking still?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In terms of B teams, Express B is right there with the better teams in the age group (i.e.Turtles, 91,etc...) The fact that the AA team carry's a large roster is irrelevant.

Yep, always critics out there. The coaches are dedicated and the boys get a ton of lax.

And yet they got shut out by a not-great 24 team.

Team 91 mafia at it again with the USCL ratings ....everyone knows they control the rankings, everyone also knows that team 91 shock is not even close to being ranked 11 in the country more like 30 in the country . So basically when they put out these rankings you could automatically drop any 92 team down 10 notches . What a joke....they really think people are as dense as they are with the garbage that they pull .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 mafia at it again with the USCL ratings ....everyone knows they control the rankings, everyone also knows that team 91 shock is not even close to being ranked 11 in the country more like 30 in the country . So basically when they put out these rankings you could automatically drop any 92 team down 10 notches . What a joke....they really think people are as dense as they are with the garbage that they pull .

You’re an angry little man. You should get some therapy. Your myopic focus on this team is unhinged. Everyone knows who you are chief.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In terms of B teams, Express B is right there with the better teams in the age group (i.e.Turtles, 91,etc...) The fact that the AA team carry's a large roster is irrelevant.

Yep, always critics out there. The coaches are dedicated and the boys get a ton of lax.

And yet they got shut out by a not-great 24 team.

Fake news

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 mafia at it again with the USCL ratings ....everyone knows they control the rankings, everyone also knows that team 91 shock is not even close to being ranked 11 in the country more like 30 in the country. So basically when they put out these rankings you could automatically drop any 92 team down 10 notches. What a joke....they really think people are as dense as they are with the garbage that they pull.

91 does not control the ranking, USLC is some dude in Point Pleasant, NJ. I'm not sure the guy knows any players on teams outside Mad Dog. He dropped their best nj team from top 15 to 44.

Uscl rankings are the best in the game!

Anyway, 91 has their panties in a bunch today. 2025 coming in at 11 and their 2026 at 19. Heads will roll....egos are being bruised . I personally don’t care much about the rankings but when these clubs are quick to post them all over their websites , Instagram etc.....you know that when they come in low they are freaking out .

https://www.USCL.com/2020-fall-rankings.html

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyway, 91 has their panties in a bunch today. 2025 coming in at 11 and their 2026 at 19. Heads will roll....egos are being bruised . I personally don’t care much about the rankings but when these clubs are quick to post them all over their websites , Instagram etc.....you know that when they come in low they are freaking out .

2025 Team doesn’t play to win. Owner is playing the profitability game. Ridiculous roster size and guest players who aren’t doing anything to improve the team. This years new additions are only bit players, they need game changers.

The rankings look pretty accurate. Where are they wrong/ amiss ?

How did Express tank from #1 and dominant to middle of the road

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Express tank from #1 and dominant to middle of the road

The only games Express lost this Fall were to teams that were clearly full of holdbacks. They also lost to Sweetlax, who played a great game against them....but then they beat them pretty easily the last time the two met. Perhaps they are #2 or #3,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyway, 91 has their panties in a bunch today. 2025 coming in at 11 and their 2026 at 19. Heads will roll....egos are being bruised . I personally don’t care much about the rankings but when these clubs are quick to post them all over their websites , Instagram etc.....you know that when they come in low they are freaking out .

2025 Team doesn’t play to win. Owner is playing the profitability game. Ridiculous roster size and guest players who aren’t doing anything to improve the team. This years new additions are only bit players, they need game changers.

He ran off a couple of good goalies and others because he favors his friends. The kids are so much better than their coaches. They lose because the HC is horrible. No. 11? With an Owner? That says a lot! When Joe Spallina was coach, this team was it. Now it’s sad! Just sad!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyway, 91 has their panties in a bunch today. 2025 coming in at 11 and their 2026 at 19. Heads will roll....egos are being bruised . I personally don’t care much about the rankings but when these clubs are quick to post them all over their websites , Instagram etc.....you know that when they come in low they are freaking out .

2025 Team doesn’t play to win. Owner is playing the profitability game. Ridiculous roster size and guest players who aren’t doing anything to improve the team. This years new additions are only bit players, they need game changers.

He ran off a couple of good goalies and others because he favors his friends. The kids are so much better than their coaches. They lose because the HC is horrible. No. 11? With an Owner? That says a lot! When Joe Spallina was coach, this team was it. Now it’s sad! Just sad!

You guys are high. That team is overrated at 11. They lose to very weak teams way too often to be considered a top club. And that’s been happening since year 1. That’s why JS left. Parents are crazy and kids were only slightly above average. It has nothing to do with a big roster. Everybody has big rosters. It has nothing to do with kids leaving. Kids leave because they’re not good enough to play. It has to do with daddy ball and kids not being as good as kids in other teams.

What’s going on at Stony Brook today?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Express tank from #1 and dominant to middle of the road

The only games Express lost this Fall were to teams that were clearly full of holdbacks. They also lost to Sweetlax, who played a great game against them....but then they beat them pretty easily the last time the two met. Perhaps they are #2 or #3,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Express tank from #1 and dominant to middle of the road

The only games Express lost this Fall were to teams that were clearly full of holdbacks. They also lost to Sweetlax, who played a great game against them....but then they beat them pretty easily the last time the two met. Perhaps they are #2 or #3,

Wa wa wa! Express parents always making excuses and crying, pretty sure for one you lost to Igloo who have no holdbacks. This spring will show 91 clearly the best on Long Island in the grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What’s going on at Stony Brook today?

FLG is running a HS varsity league. Was supposed to be over a couple months. But now they are cramming it into one week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Express tank from #1 and dominant to middle of the road

The only games Express lost this Fall were to teams that were clearly full of holdbacks. They also lost to Sweetlax, who played a great game against them....but then they beat them pretty easily the last time the two met. Perhaps they are #2 or #3,

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did Express tank from #1 and dominant to middle of the road

The only games Express lost this Fall were to teams that were clearly full of holdbacks. They also lost to Sweetlax, who played a great game against them....but then they beat them pretty easily the last time the two met. Perhaps they are #2 or #3,

Wa wa wa! Express parents always making excuses and crying, pretty sure for one you lost to Igloo who have no holdbacks. This spring will show 91 clearly the best on Long Island in the grade.

91 the best on long island.... hahahaha....you got jokes . 91 hasn't even been in the conversation anymore , they're a joke . Same team that got beat by a town team last year . You're a fool . 91 is a mess , only time they beat any teams are when they're hiding in their "dynamic disasters" owned mylacrossetournaments. Other than that they're not even taken seriously anymore

Lost to igloo, lol. Only on this sight you get comments like that. Express might have played igloo 15 times over the past 2 years. Yes, they may have lost 1. Ok you are correct I guess. They lost to igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lost to igloo, lol. Only on this sight you get comments like that. Express might have played igloo 15 times over the past 2 years. Yes, they may have lost 1. Ok you are correct I guess. They lost to igloo.

Did someone hit a nerve? Pretty sure he was just responding to the post stating that express only lost last fall to teams that “were clearly full of holdbacks”. You have to love crazy express parents!

91 never lost to Igloo! So why isn’t Express No. 12?

Are you guys really arguing over 13 year old team rankings .... who cares ...... let me know how you guys make out during SHOWCASE invites ....LOL

The rankings are all fairy-dust that is sprinkled onto the parents to extract bigger checks.... Stop drinking the toilet water, I mean Koolaide. These rankings are a joke and everyone knows it. But if it can make the Directors a few more dollars, get all of these foolish teams to sign up for the Holy Grail of Lax ( Denver, DC, whatever it is called these days) then that is what they will print. Some of these "Ranked" teams would lose to a town PAL team.... and have..... Everyone go back to sleep and lets see what happens in the Spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you guys really arguing over 13 year old team rankings .... who cares ...... let me know how you guys make out during SHOWCASE invites ....LOL

What about the showcase today and tomorrow at SB? Does that count? A lot of highly talented kids going to be there.

Dump the Donkey!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you guys really arguing over 13 year old team rankings .... who cares ...... let me know how you guys make out during SHOWCASE invites ....LOL

What about the showcase today and tomorrow at SB? Does that count? A lot of highly talented kids going to be there.

What showcase is that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you guys really arguing over 13 year old team rankings .... who cares ...... let me know how you guys make out during SHOWCASE invites ....LOL

What about the showcase today and tomorrow at SB? Does that count? A lot of highly talented kids going to be there.

What showcase is that?

College Bound by LILJ. The girls were the last two days and the boys are today and tomorrow. Elite DI coaches there and it’s strictly for our 2025’s.

And 2026.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are you guys really arguing over 13 year old team rankings .... who cares ...... let me know how you guys make out during SHOWCASE invites ....LOL

What about the showcase today and tomorrow at SB? Does that count? A lot of highly talented kids going to be there.

What showcase is that?

College Bound by LILJ. The girls were the last two days and the boys are today and tomorrow. Elite DI coaches there and it’s strictly for our 2025’s.

sounds like a super spreader event

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about the showcase today and tomorrow at SB? Does that count? A lot of highly talented kids going to be there.

What showcase is that?

College Bound by LILJ. The girls were the last two days and the boys are today and tomorrow. Elite DI coaches there and it’s strictly for our 2025’s.

Listen, I know this is a term that is incredibly overused, but in this instance you have to recognize this as a money grab. There is no way that college coaches have a shred of interest in our boys. Let me say that again for the crazy parents in the back, not a single coach in the nation is looking at 8th graders. They’re not looking at 9th graders. They are not even looking at 10th graders yet. Furthermore, do you really believe that any D1 coaches or programs are going to risk NCAA sanctions for violating “dead period” restrictions? Especially to look at kids who’s balls haven’t dropped yet? They aren’t. They wouldn’t. Those who paid to bring their boy here are unrealistic and insane. No one is looking at your boy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And 2026.

Wait, let me get this straight. There was a showcase for ‘25’s and ‘26’s at Stony Brook? Now I know you guys are lying. 😆😆

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And 2026.

Wait, let me get this straight. There was a showcase for ‘25’s and ‘26’s at Stony Brook? Now I know you guys are lying. 😆😆

I think the OP used the word showcase when he meant clinic. Good coaching but not a mask in sight

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about the showcase today and tomorrow at SB? Does that count? A lot of highly talented kids going to be there.

What showcase is that?

College Bound by LILJ. The girls were the last two days and the boys are today and tomorrow. Elite DI coaches there and it’s strictly for our 2025’s.

Listen, I know this is a term that is incredibly overused, but in this instance you have to recognize this as a money grab. There is no way that college coaches have a shred of interest in our boys. Let me say that again for the crazy parents in the back, not a single coach in the nation is looking at 8th graders. They’re not looking at 9th graders. They are not even looking at 10th graders yet. Furthermore, do you really believe that any D1 coaches or programs are going to risk NCAA sanctions for violating “dead period” restrictions? Especially to look at kids who’s balls haven’t dropped yet? They aren’t. They wouldn’t. Those who paid to bring their boy here are unrealistic and insane. No one is looking at your boy.

I can’t speak for everyone but I’m still pretty sure no one is attending these things in the hopes of getting “looks” from college coaches. We attended it just to get good coaching from guys outside the area. For 300 bucks you got 6 hours of great coaching and lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about the showcase today and tomorrow at SB? Does that count? A lot of highly talented kids going to be there.

What showcase is that?

College Bound by LILJ. The girls were the last two days and the boys are today and tomorrow. Elite DI coaches there and it’s strictly for our 2025’s.

Listen, I know this is a term that is incredibly overused, but in this instance you have to recognize this as a money grab. There is no way that college coaches have a shred of interest in our boys. Let me say that again for the crazy parents in the back, not a single coach in the nation is looking at 8th graders. They’re not looking at 9th graders. They are not even looking at 10th graders yet. Furthermore, do you really believe that any D1 coaches or programs are going to risk NCAA sanctions for violating “dead period” restrictions? Especially to look at kids who’s balls haven’t dropped yet? They aren’t. They wouldn’t. Those who paid to bring their boy here are unrealistic and insane. No one is looking at your boy.

Louder if the people in the back! 👏🏼

91, please Dump the donkey!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91, please Dump the donkey!

Go back to rebels lost

Tribal has become Jersey Express. They do have a 2025 WSYL and 2026 WSYL teams.

WHO CARES The word of 2021: MEDIOCRITY

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91, please Dump the donkey!

Go back to rebels lost

Dump him and get your team back, the Donkey has to go!

Its over... there wont even be a spring season if this Pandemic doesnt slow down. Then you can have secretive Showcases where you all wear your team hoodies and talk about how your 14 yr old is going pro.... and if your lucky, the directors will charge you double for the privilege.....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its over... there wont even be a spring season if this Pandemic doesnt slow down. Then you can have secretive Showcases where you all wear your team hoodies and talk about how your 14 yr old is going pro.... and if your lucky, the directors will charge you double for the privilege.....

Shut up already. The vaccine is already getting rolled out. Go hide in your moms basement if that makes you feel safer

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91, please Dump the donkey!

Go back to rebels lost

Dump him and get your team back, the Donkey has to go!

Who's the donkey?

Haaaa Sure And they are going to find 11,000 more votes. Go take your vaccine, go to your showcase , watch your kid take a 9-5 job in 4 years and tell me how the vaccine works out for you! Haaa And then come back to this board in March and complain how sports has been shut down because of clowns like you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91, please Dump the donkey!

Go back to rebels lost

Dump him and get your team back, the Donkey has to go!

Who's the donkey?

What animal is the offspring of a male donkey and a female horse? A Mule.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about the showcase today and tomorrow at SB? Does that count? A lot of highly talented kids going to be there.

What showcase is that?

College Bound by LILJ. The girls were the last two days and the boys are today and tomorrow. Elite DI coaches there and it’s strictly for our 2025’s.

Listen, I know this is a term that is incredibly overused, but in this instance you have to recognize this as a money grab. There is no way that college coaches have a shred of interest in our boys. Let me say that again for the crazy parents in the back, not a single coach in the nation is looking at 8th graders. They’re not looking at 9th graders. They are not even looking at 10th graders yet. Furthermore, do you really believe that any D1 coaches or programs are going to risk NCAA sanctions for violating “dead period” restrictions? Especially to look at kids who’s balls haven’t dropped yet? They aren’t. They wouldn’t. Those who paid to bring their boy here are unrealistic and insane. No one is looking at your boy.

I can’t speak for everyone but I’m still pretty sure no one is attending these things in the hopes of getting “looks” from college coaches. We attended it just to get good coaching from guys outside the area. For 300 bucks you got 6 hours of great coaching and lacrosse.

I agree with you. We looked at it as just another clinic for the kids to do and today when there is not to much out there, it was a good price for a 6 hour clinic.

From what my son said, he enjoyed it.
The only sad part was that the LILJ guys were suppose to do a write up and post videos of each day with stand out players and have only done it for the girls. Nothing was done for the boys except a handful of pic posted. That was disappointing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can’t speak for everyone but I’m still pretty sure no one is attending these things in the hopes of getting “looks” from college coaches. We attended it just to get good coaching from guys outside the area. For 300 bucks you got 6 hours of great coaching and lacrosse.

I agree with you. We looked at it as just another clinic for the kids to do and today when there is not to much out there, it was a good price for a 6 hour clinic.

From what my son said, he enjoyed it.
The only sad part was that the LILJ guys were suppose to do a write up and post videos of each day with stand out players and have only done it for the girls. Nothing was done for the boys except a handful of pic posted. That was disappointing.

Don’t worry, I’m sure your guy was the best one there. I bet you already emailed LILJ to get them on that, huh? Just a tad but pathetic/desperate, don’t you think? This goes to the earlier post, no one is looking at your kid. 8 the grade lax means nothing and no one is going to waste time doing a write up. They only did it for the girls because JS got them the space. Also, it looked like all of the girls were standouts on at least one of the days. If you went to treat it as a clinic (keep telling yourself that), then fine. But, clearly you want a full write up on your 8th grade son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What about the showcase today and tomorrow at SB? Does that count? A lot of highly talented kids going to be there.

What showcase is that?

College Bound by LILJ. The girls were the last two days and the boys are today and tomorrow. Elite DI coaches there and it’s strictly for our 2025’s.

Listen, I know this is a term that is incredibly overused, but in this instance you have to recognize this as a money grab. There is no way that college coaches have a shred of interest in our boys. Let me say that again for the crazy parents in the back, not a single coach in the nation is looking at 8th graders. They’re not looking at 9th graders. They are not even looking at 10th graders yet. Furthermore, do you really believe that any D1 coaches or programs are going to risk NCAA sanctions for violating “dead period” restrictions? Especially to look at kids who’s balls haven’t dropped yet? They aren’t. They wouldn’t. Those who paid to bring their boy here are unrealistic and insane. No one is looking at your boy.

I can’t speak for everyone but I’m still pretty sure no one is attending these things in the hopes of getting “looks” from college coaches. We attended it just to get good coaching from guys outside the area. For 300 bucks you got 6 hours of great coaching and lacrosse.

I agree with you. We looked at it as just another clinic for the kids to do and today when there is not to much out there, it was a good price for a 6 hour clinic.

From what my son said, he enjoyed it.
The only sad part was that the LILJ guys were suppose to do a write up and post videos of each day with stand out players and have only done it for the girls. Nothing was done for the boys except a handful of pic posted. That was disappointing.

I assume they didn’t post any pictures of your little animal. Right Mommy?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can’t speak for everyone but I’m still pretty sure no one is attending these things in the hopes of getting “looks” from college coaches. We attended it just to get good coaching from guys outside the area. For 300 bucks you got 6 hours of great coaching and lacrosse.

I agree with you. We looked at it as just another clinic for the kids to do and today when there is not to much out there, it was a good price for a 6 hour clinic.

From what my son said, he enjoyed it.
The only sad part was that the LILJ guys were suppose to do a write up and post videos of each day with stand out players and have only done it for the girls. Nothing was done for the boys except a handful of pic posted. That was disappointing.

Don’t worry, I’m sure your guy was the best one there. I bet you already emailed LILJ to get them on that, huh? Just a tad but pathetic/desperate, don’t you think? This goes to the earlier post, no one is looking at your kid. 8 the grade lax means nothing and no one is going to waste time doing a write up. They only did it for the girls because JS got them the space. Also, it looked like all of the girls were standouts on at least one of the days. If you went to treat it as a clinic (keep telling yourself that), then fine. But, clearly you want a full write up on your 8th grade son.

Issue is more of a bait and switch by the FLG guys.
But i guess you can't read. The write that was done was what was done at the clinic. They didn't do a writeup of the players, only named a few. Since parents weren't allowed inside it would of been nice to see or read what they did. Dont be jealous your little Johnny was scared to do it and try to pick up knowledgefrom from spectator players and coaches, or was the cost to much for you? I guess $300 does buy a lot if beer, wings and wife beaters. We could of started a gofundme page here to send your son next year.

College Bound by LILJ. The girls were the last two days and the boys are today and tomorrow. Elite DI coaches there and it’s strictly for our 2025’s.[/quote]

Listen, I know this is a term that is incredibly overused, but in this instance you have to recognize this as a money grab. There is no way that college coaches have a shred of interest in our boys. Let me say that again for the crazy parents in the back, not a single coach in the nation is looking at 8th graders. They’re not looking at 9th graders. They are not even looking at 10th graders yet. Furthermore, do you really believe that any D1 coaches or programs are going to risk NCAA sanctions for violating “dead period” restrictions? Especially to look at kids who’s balls haven’t dropped yet? They aren’t. They wouldn’t. Those who paid to bring their boy here are unrealistic and insane. No one is looking at your boy.[/quote]

I can’t speak for everyone but I’m still pretty sure no one is attending these things in the hopes of getting “looks” from college coaches. We attended it just to get good coaching from guys outside the area. For 300 bucks you got 6 hours of great coaching and lacrosse.[/quote]

I agree with you. We looked at it as just another clinic for the kids to do and today when there is not to much out there, it was a good price for a 6 hour clinic.

From what my son said, he enjoyed it.
The only sad part was that the LILJ guys were suppose to do a write up and post videos of each day with stand out players and have only done it for the girls. Nothing was done for the boys except a handful of pic posted. That was disappointing.[/quote]

I assume they didn’t post any pictures of your little animal. Right Mommy?[/quote]

There are 400+ pic posted by a professional photographer that was hired for the event. You have to pay for the photos though. No videos posted though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can’t speak for everyone but I’m still pretty sure no one is attending these things in the hopes of getting “looks” from college coaches. We attended it just to get good coaching from guys outside the area. For 300 bucks you got 6 hours of great coaching and lacrosse.

I agree with you. We looked at it as just another clinic for the kids to do and today when there is not to much out there, it was a good price for a 6 hour clinic.

From what my son said, he enjoyed it.
The only sad part was that the LILJ guys were suppose to do a write up and post videos of each day with stand out players and have only done it for the girls. Nothing was done for the boys except a handful of pic posted. That was disappointing.

Don’t worry, I’m sure your guy was the best one there. I bet you already emailed LILJ to get them on that, huh? Just a tad but pathetic/desperate, don’t you think? This goes to the earlier post, no one is looking at your kid. 8 the grade lax means nothing and no one is going to waste time doing a write up. They only did it for the girls because JS got them the space. Also, it looked like all of the girls were standouts on at least one of the days. If you went to treat it as a clinic (keep telling yourself that), then fine. But, clearly you want a full write up on your 8th grade son.

You are probaly the same guy who said the spring season won’t happen. Keep hiding in your basement buddy . At 50 bucks an hour my son got coached by some of the best players in the game. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop trying to make up a narrative just because you were to cheap to do it

Your son got coached by the best? Dude, save your money and have your kid hit the wall. Its cheaper and more effective. If he's not carrying around a stick 24-7 then your dream of Paul Rabil Jr going pro IS OVER before it even started. And do the math: Add up all the tutitons, privates, clinics, etc... You could pay your kid's full tuition to college 2x over..... Now if you say you enjoy it and it keeps your kid busy...that's a different story.

Ask your son how many points he scored on Xbox last night & then ask him to repeat 3 things "some of the best players in the game" told him at the $50 clinic...See which one you get a clearer answer to. Man, Im laughing soooo hard right now. So is anyone with 1/2 a brain that is reading this....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I can’t speak for everyone but I’m still pretty sure no one is attending these things in the hopes of getting “looks” from college coaches. We attended it just to get good coaching from guys outside the area. For 300 bucks you got 6 hours of great coaching and lacrosse.

I agree with you. We looked at it as just another clinic for the kids to do and today when there is not to much out there, it was a good price for a 6 hour clinic.

From what my son said, he enjoyed it.
The only sad part was that the LILJ guys were suppose to do a write up and post videos of each day with stand out players and have only done it for the girls. Nothing was done for the boys except a handful of pic posted. That was disappointing.

Don’t worry, I’m sure your guy was the best one there. I bet you already emailed LILJ to get them on that, huh? Just a tad but pathetic/desperate, don’t you think? This goes to the earlier post, no one is looking at your kid. 8 the grade lax means nothing and no one is going to waste time doing a write up. They only did it for the girls because JS got them the space. Also, it looked like all of the girls were standouts on at least one of the days. If you went to treat it as a clinic (keep telling yourself that), then fine. But, clearly you want a full write up on your 8th grade son.

You are probaly the same guy who said the spring season won’t happen. Keep hiding in your basement buddy . At 50 bucks an hour my son got coached by some of the best players in the game. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop trying to make up a narrative just because you were to cheap to do it

If you hide in your basement, you can get elected President. Didn't you know that?

Lets stick to Lax, not politics. Or compromise: Lets discuss the politics of kiddie lax..... Apparently there are a lot of them.... Lets start with Daddy ball, over stuffing rosters, WSYL, play time, US Club Lax Rankings, etc....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what my son said, he enjoyed it.
The only sad part was that the LILJ guys were suppose to do a write up and post videos of each day with stand out players and have only done it for the girls. Nothing was done for the boys except a handful of pic posted. That was disappointing.

Don’t worry, I’m sure your guy was the best one there. I bet you already emailed LILJ to get them on that, huh? Just a tad but pathetic/desperate, don’t you think? This goes to the earlier post, no one is looking at your kid. 8 the grade lax means nothing and no one is going to waste time doing a write up. They only did it for the girls because JS got them the space. Also, it looked like all of the girls were standouts on at least one of the days. If you went to treat it as a clinic (keep telling yourself that), then fine. But, clearly you want a full write up on your 8th grade son.

Issue is more of a bait and switch by the FLG guys.
But i guess you can't read. The write that was done was what was done at the clinic. They didn't do a writeup of the players, only named a few. Since parents weren't allowed inside it would of been nice to see or read what they did. Dont be jealous your little Johnny was scared to do it and try to pick up knowledgefrom from spectator players and coaches, or was the cost to much for you? I guess $300 does buy a lot if beer, wings and wife beaters. We could of started a gofundme page here to send your son next year.

Oh, my bad. I didn’t realize you were promised a write up about your son. Oh wait, you weren’t. You EXPECTED it after you saw the girls. And I can read. You want a write up and video of your little standout. You are the perfect example of an unrealistic overbearing lax parent. I don’t need to go to a money grab with a Laxx of kids. I know what it is. I have my son go to small group instruction 2x a week for 90 minutes each. I will bet my house that his training is substantially better than that mess. But, hey, I’ll make some calls for you. I’ll see if they can make up “Superstar” plaques for all of the attendees. What a joke you are!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your son got coached by the best? Dude, save your money and have your kid hit the wall. Its cheaper and more effective. If he's not carrying around a stick 24-7 then your dream of Paul Rabil Jr going pro IS OVER before it even started. And do the math: Add up all the tutitons, privates, clinics, etc... You could pay your kid's full tuition to college 2x over..... Now if you say you enjoy it and it keeps your kid busy...that's a different story.

Ask your son how many points he scored on Xbox last night & then ask him to repeat 3 things "some of the best players in the game" told him at the $50 clinic...See which one you get a clearer answer to. Man, Im laughing soooo hard right now. So is anyone with 1/2 a brain that is reading this....

Your argument is so dense. Yeah hitting the wall is great. But can get a little boring if that all you do for the next 5 years. I paid for it because my son loves playing lax. Plain and simple. Yes if I saved all my money from travel lax I could buy a lot of things. That could be said about anything we do in life. But it keeps him away from the Xbox, provides great exercise and he’s met a lot of great kids. I hope you had fun with you kid hitting the wall for 6 hours in the winter. I’m sure he loved it

Hey, if you hurry, they are having a maskless, superspreader event today to celebrate yesterday's successful demonstration.......NOT!!! You can bring your son's Lacrosse stick and wear his jersey.... and then take deep breaths........

Originally Posted by Anonymous

From what my son said, he enjoyed it.
The only sad part was that the LILJ guys were suppose to do a write up and post videos of each day with stand out players and have only done it for the girls. Nothing was done for the boys except a handful of pic posted. That was disappointing.

Don’t worry, I’m sure your guy was the best one there. I bet you already emailed LILJ to get them on that, huh? Just a tad but pathetic/desperate, don’t you think? This goes to the earlier post, no one is looking at your kid. 8 the grade lax means nothing and no one is going to waste time doing a write up. They only did it for the girls because JS got them the space. Also, it looked like all of the girls were standouts on at least one of the days. If you went to treat it as a clinic (keep telling yourself that), then fine. But, clearly you want a full write up on your 8th grade son.

Issue is more of a bait and switch by the FLG guys.
But i guess you can't read. The write that was done was what was done at the clinic. They didn't do a writeup of the players, only named a few. Since parents weren't allowed inside it would of been nice to see or read what they did. Dont be jealous your little Johnny was scared to do it and try to pick up knowledgefrom from spectator players and coaches, or was the cost to much for you? I guess $300 does buy a lot if beer, wings and wife beaters. We could of started a gofundme page here to send your son next year.

Oh, my bad. I didn’t realize you were promised a write up about your son. Oh wait, you weren’t. You EXPECTED it after you saw the girls. And I can read. You want a write up and video of your little standout. You are the perfect example of an unrealistic overbearing lax parent. I don’t need to go to a money grab with a Laxx of kids. I know what it is. I have my son go to small group instruction 2x a week for 90 minutes each. I will bet my house that his training is substantially better than that mess. But, hey, I’ll make some calls for you. I’ll see if they can make up “Superstar” plaques for all of the attendees. What a joke you are!

So you are mad about a clinic that you never attended or paid for ? Then you are pissed off at people who said their kids liked it? Get a life

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, if you hurry, they are having a maskless, superspreader event today to celebrate yesterday's successful demonstration.......NOT!!! You can bring your son's Lacrosse stick and wear his jersey.... and then take deep breaths........

Follow the research buddy. Covid is not being spread through youth sports. It’s a fact.

"Training" "Showcases" You folks need to wake up. These kids are 14. Let them play at their discretion, for fun. If they like it, great. Sit back and enjoy it. If your doing it for anything other than that at this point then you are getting hosed. Want a write up? "Likes the game ,is discovering girls, likes to be with his friends." NO CHARGE!!! Move on

Listen, I said if your kid enjoys it and you enjoy supporting him, then so be it. But if your doing it because you think there is some Lacrosse light at the end of the tunnel then you need goggles... READ the post before impulse responding.

I know I’m late to the party, but they announced the standouts. I think it was everybody there 😂😂😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Training" "Showcases" You folks need to wake up. These kids are 14. Let them play at their discretion, for fun. If they like it, great. Sit back and enjoy it. If your doing it for anything other than that at this point then you are getting hosed. Want a write up? "Likes the game ,is discovering girls, likes to be with his friends." NO CHARGE!!! Move on

again the write up wasnt on or about the kids. the write up was what was done at the clinic. Its something good for the kids to review after the fact to learn from. I am all for wall ball, but sooner or later they need to learn to play lacrosse and get some iq, rather then just being a bounce back on the feild during a game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, if you hurry, they are having a maskless, superspreader event today to celebrate yesterday's successful demonstration.......NOT!!! You can bring your son's Lacrosse stick and wear his jersey.... and then take deep breaths........

Follow the research buddy. Covid is not being spread through youth sports. It’s a fact.

Because there are none??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Listen, I said if your kid enjoys it and you enjoy supporting him, then so be it. But if your doing it because you think there is some Lacrosse light at the end of the tunnel then you need goggles... READ the post before impulse responding.

Maybe you should READ the posts. No one on this board said they attended the event because we thought it would lead to a look from a D 1 coach. And no one posted that we attended the event because we thought it would lead to scholarship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Training" "Showcases" You folks need to wake up. These kids are 14. Let them play at their discretion, for fun. If they like it, great. Sit back and enjoy it. If your doing it for anything other than that at this point then you are getting hosed. Want a write up? "Likes the game ,is discovering girls, likes to be with his friends." NO CHARGE!!! Move on

again the write up wasnt on or about the kids. the write up was what was done at the clinic. Its something good for the kids to review after the fact to learn from. I am all for wall ball, but sooner or later they need to learn to play lacrosse and get some iq, rather then just being a bounce back on the feild during a game.

They are still reviewing the tape Mommy, write ups are to be emailed next week. What do you think these “college coaches” do all day? Write player evaluations? They are jocks, probably don’t do much of dat reedin an riten stuff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Training" "Showcases" You folks need to wake up. These kids are 14. Let them play at their discretion, for fun. If they like it, great. Sit back and enjoy it. If your doing it for anything other than that at this point then you are getting hosed. Want a write up? "Likes the game ,is discovering girls, likes to be with his friends." NO CHARGE!!! Move on

again the write up wasnt on or about the kids. the write up was what was done at the clinic. Its something good for the kids to review after the fact to learn from. I am all for wall ball, but sooner or later they need to learn to play lacrosse and get some iq, rather then just being a bounce back on the feild during a game.

They are still reviewing the tape Mommy, write ups are to be emailed next week. What do you think these “college coaches” do all day? Write player evaluations? They are jocks, probably don’t do much of dat reedin an riten stuff.

So your sons the water boy for the team then?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Training" "Showcases" You folks need to wake up. These kids are 14. Let them play at their discretion, for fun. If they like it, great. Sit back and enjoy it. If your doing it for anything other than that at this point then you are getting hosed. Want a write up? "Likes the game ,is discovering girls, likes to be with his friends." NO CHARGE!!! Move on

again the write up wasnt on or about the kids. the write up was what was done at the clinic. Its something good for the kids to review after the fact to learn from. I am all for wall ball, but sooner or later they need to learn to play lacrosse and get some iq, rather then just being a bounce back on the feild during a game.

They are still reviewing the tape Mommy, write ups are to be emailed next week. What do you think these “college coaches” do all day? Write player evaluations? They are jocks, probably don’t do much of dat reedin an riten stuff.

So your sons the water boy for the team then?

The evaluation I received from the coaches/evaluators said he was awesome! Your boy? Not so hot Mommy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Training" "Showcases" You folks need to wake up. These kids are 14. Let them play at their discretion, for fun. If they like it, great. Sit back and enjoy it. If your doing it for anything other than that at this point then you are getting hosed. Want a write up? "Likes the game ,is discovering girls, likes to be with his friends." NO CHARGE!!! Move on

again the write up wasnt on or about the kids. the write up was what was done at the clinic. Its something good for the kids to review after the fact to learn from. I am all for wall ball, but sooner or later they need to learn to play lacrosse and get some iq, rather then just being a bounce back on the feild during a game.

They are still reviewing the tape Mommy, write ups are to be emailed next week. What do you think these “college coaches” do all day? Write player evaluations? They are jocks, probably don’t do much of dat reedin an riten stuff.

So your sons the water boy for the team then?

The evaluation I received from the coaches/evaluators said he was awesome! Your boy? Not so hot Mommy.

I thought you didn't send your son b.c it was too expensive, or not good enough trainers, or don't like showcase, or whatever else you tell your shelf when you see your son sitting there watching everyone else play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"Training" "Showcases" You folks need to wake up. These kids are 14. Let them play at their discretion, for fun. If they like it, great. Sit back and enjoy it. If your doing it for anything other than that at this point then you are getting hosed. Want a write up? "Likes the game ,is discovering girls, likes to be with his friends." NO CHARGE!!! Move on

again the write up wasnt on or about the kids. the write up was what was done at the clinic. Its something good for the kids to review after the fact to learn from. I am all for wall ball, but sooner or later they need to learn to play lacrosse and get some iq, rather then just being a bounce back on the feild during a game.

They are still reviewing the tape Mommy, write ups are to be emailed next week. What do you think these “college coaches” do all day? Write player evaluations? They are jocks, probably don’t do much of dat reedin an riten stuff.

So your sons the water boy for the team then?

The evaluation I received from the coaches/evaluators said he was awesome! Your boy? Not so hot Mommy.

I thought you didn't send your son b.c it was too expensive, or not good enough trainers, or don't like showcase, or whatever else you tell your shelf when you see your son sitting there watching everyone else play.

You can’t pay your way to getting little Johnny a look Mommy, and it doesn’t matter how many IG posts you make there is no offer coming. The only watching going on for my boy, is when he’s tired from his workout.

Dump the Donkey

No showcases for 2025. Just money grabs for suckers

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, if you hurry, they are having a maskless, superspreader event today to celebrate yesterday's successful demonstration.......NOT!!! You can bring your son's Lacrosse stick and wear his jersey.... and then take deep breaths........

Follow the research buddy. Covid is not being spread through youth sports. It’s a fact.

91 would tel you different, it’s a fact.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, if you hurry, they are having a maskless, superspreader event today to celebrate yesterday's successful demonstration.......NOT!!! You can bring your son's Lacrosse stick and wear his jersey.... and then take deep breaths........

Follow the research buddy. Covid is not being spread through youth sports. It’s a fact.

91 would tel you different, it’s a fact.

Yep. Whole org on lockdown

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, if you hurry, they are having a maskless, superspreader event today to celebrate yesterday's successful demonstration.......NOT!!! You can bring your son's Lacrosse stick and wear his jersey.... and then take deep breaths........

Follow the research buddy. Covid is not being spread through youth sports. It’s a fact.

91 would tel you different, it’s a fact.

Yep. Whole org on lockdown

So go hide in your basement until the whole country is vaccinated. See you in 2023.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey, if you hurry, they are having a maskless, superspreader event today to celebrate yesterday's successful demonstration.......NOT!!! You can bring your son's Lacrosse stick and wear his jersey.... and then take deep breaths........

Follow the research buddy. Covid is not being spread through youth sports. It’s a fact.

91 would tel you different, it’s a fact.

Yep. Whole org on lockdown

So go hide in your basement until the whole country is vaccinated. See you in 2023.

Go hug your parents

Donkey has to go or 91 is a no show!

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the Jewish players; WSYL teams qualifiers on March 27th and 28th it is the first day of Passover. Families will be forced to decide between observing their faith and youth sports. Such a shame for kids who have worked all year for the opportunity to play. I believe players have to have played the qualifier to play the next rounds. The founder of the event himself is Jewish. Please no ignorant or derogatory comments. We already have enough division in this country.

I’m not a religious person so I’ve never even considered this. You make a good point. I think that this could be an issue for a lot more. Try contacting them. Maybe they can come up with a solution. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the Jewish players; WSYL teams qualifiers on March 27th and 28th it is the first day of Passover. Families will be forced to decide between observing their faith and youth sports. Such a shame for kids who have worked all year for the opportunity to play. I believe players have to have played the qualifier to play the next rounds. The founder of the event himself is Jewish. Please no ignorant or derogatory comments. We already have enough division in this country.

I’m not a religious person so I’ve never even considered this. You make a good point. I think that this could be an issue for a lot more. Try contacting them. Maybe they can come up with a solution. Good luck.

The coaches / programs should contact WSYL. They need to hear it's an issue directly from the ones who register and pay the fees. They don't care about the parents on some random team. Unfortunate but true.

The WSYL scam will be getting axed again this year due to COVID. Then next year then can have 3 age groups, rosters of 50 and all the laxaholics can get their fix for a ridiculously expensive figure...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the Jewish players; WSYL teams qualifiers on March 27th and 28th it is the first day of Passover. Families will be forced to decide between observing their faith and youth sports. Such a shame for kids who have worked all year for the opportunity to play. I believe players have to have played the qualifier to play the next rounds. The founder of the event himself is Jewish. Please no ignorant or derogatory comments. We already have enough division in this country.

I’m not a religious person so I’ve never even considered this. You make a good point. I think that this could be an issue for a lot more. Try contacting them. Maybe they can come up with a solution. Good luck.

The coaches / programs should contact WSYL. They need to hear it's an issue directly from the ones who register and pay the fees. They don't care about the parents on some random team. Unfortunate but true.

I don't think the programs give one you know what about 1 or 2 players. They already have rosters of 30 plus kids. Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the Jewish players; WSYL teams qualifiers on March 27th and 28th it is the first day of Passover. Families will be forced to decide between observing their faith and youth sports. Such a shame for kids who have worked all year for the opportunity to play. I believe players have to have played the qualifier to play the next rounds. The founder of the event himself is Jewish. Please no ignorant or derogatory comments. We already have enough division in this country.

I’m not a religious person so I’ve never even considered this. You make a good point. I think that this could be an issue for a lot more. Try contacting them. Maybe they can come up with a solution. Good luck.

The coaches / programs should contact WSYL. They need to hear it's an issue directly from the ones who register and pay the fees. They don't care about the parents on some random team. Unfortunate but true.

I don't think the programs give one you know what about 1 or 2 players. They already have rosters of 30 plus kids. Sad.

Aren't rosters capped at 25? Says so on their website. 2 goalies and 23 field players.

I completely agree unfortunately Christians have been fighting the Sunday travel sports battle for years to no avail. Best of luck trying to change an already set culture of worshiping youth sports.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the Jewish players; WSYL teams qualifiers on March 27th and 28th it is the first day of Passover. Families will be forced to decide between observing their faith and youth sports. Such a shame for kids who have worked all year for the opportunity to play. I believe players have to have played the qualifier to play the next rounds. The founder of the event himself is Jewish. Please no ignorant or derogatory comments. We already have enough division in this country.

I’m not a religious person so I’ve never even considered this. You make a good point. I think that this could be an issue for a lot more. Try contacting them. Maybe they can come up with a solution. Good luck.

The coaches / programs should contact WSYL. They need to hear it's an issue directly from the ones who register and pay the fees. They don't care about the parents on some random team. Unfortunate but true.

I don't think the programs give one you know what about 1 or 2 players. They already have rosters of 30 plus kids. Sad.

Aren't rosters capped at 25? Says so on their website. 2 goalies and 23 field players.

Yes they are supposed to be. I already heard of at least 2 major programs asking for exemptions. I'm sure they'll invoke a covid clause and claim hardpoop. Why would teams have 30 on their roster if they knew they couldn't bring everyone. It's all about the $$$ not the kids

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely agree unfortunately Christians have been fighting the Sunday travel sports battle for years to no avail. Best of luck trying to change an already set culture of worshiping youth sports.

Every Sunday is alot, considering so many sports and largely weekend games. This is a holiday that happens once per year. For Jewish people it is the equivalent of having a tournament on Easter Sunday.

Capped at 25? C'mon...this is youth Lax!! Its going to be 30+, kids of all ages, registration fees, participation fees and whatever else they can extort from the "lifers".

If anyone is interested, I am organizing a local "Tournament" called " The Superbowl of youth lax" ' , known as SBYL. The charge is $7000/per team, no age limits and Directors can pack their rosters with as many kids that have full beards!! The good news is that you can stay on Long Island to play the same teams you would by traveling out of state... but that's gonna cost you extra. Instead of ruining, I mean playing, on the 4th of July, we will be playing on Christmas Day!!! It wont be on ESPN tho. Some parents that bring tripods to every game have graciously volunteered to film the games and post them to select Social Media venue only if their kid scores....

All participants get a free , used greaser. And parents get the thrill of a lifetime and a chance to brag to their friends that Lil Johnny played in the SBYL. Finally, NO MASKS REQUIRED and all are urged to share the same water bottles!

Well it is equivalent to Easter, the only difference out of 30 families, probably 27 of them aren’t Jewish. Of those remaining 3, if they celebrate Passover, it’s probably a family dinner. Tournaments are during the day. Passover dinners will still be happening. Now if your super religious and your child can’t play during Passover day, that’s your belief, that’s understandable, however there is probably under 20 kids out of the 10000 kids on Long Island who fall into this category. So just telling it like it is, there is to much money involved. Nothing is getting cancelled or postponed because 20 kids out of 10000 lax players won’t be able to play those dates.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well it is equivalent to Easter, the only difference out of 30 families, probably 27 of them aren’t Jewish. Of those remaining 3, if they celebrate Passover, it’s probably a family dinner. Tournaments are during the day. Passover dinners will still be happening. Now if your super religious and your child can’t play during Passover day, that’s your belief, that’s understandable, however there is probably under 20 kids out of the 10000 kids on Long Island who fall into this category. So just telling it like it is, there is to much money involved. Nothing is getting cancelled or postponed because 20 kids out of 10000 lax players won’t be able to play those dates.

Agree nothing getting cancelled or moved. Absolutely correct that the extent of celebration for most is typically limited to family dinners and the tournament is played during the day....but the tournament is in Delaware. This is not a family dinner at IHOP or even a high end restaurant. They are very traditional with rituals and customs... and difficult to do in your room in the Hampton Inn! Jake should know this!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely agree unfortunately Christians have been fighting the Sunday travel sports battle for years to no avail. Best of luck trying to change an already set culture of worshiping youth sports.

Every Sunday is alot, considering so many sports and largely weekend games. This is a holiday that happens once per year. For Jewish people it is the equivalent of having a tournament on Easter Sunday.

Same person, on multiple threads, often responding to his/her own comments. Give it a rest. Stay home!

FACT: majority of Christian people on this site, me included, would love a tournament on Easter Sunday. It would be like Christmas morning for us!! Go away!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely agree unfortunately Christians have been fighting the Sunday travel sports battle for years to no avail. Best of luck trying to change an already set culture of worshiping youth sports.

Every Sunday is alot, considering so many sports and largely weekend games. This is a holiday that happens once per year. For Jewish people it is the equivalent of having a tournament on Easter Sunday.

Same person, on multiple threads, often responding to his/her own comments. Give it a rest. Stay home!

FACT: majority of Christian people on this site, me included, would love a tournament on Easter Sunday. It would be like Christmas morning for us!! Go away!

You say your a Christian but clearly don't act like one. When you child moves out after HS how will you survive without the thrill of youth lacrosse to interfere with your religious beliefs or lack of.

Jake prays to Benjamin Franklin. And his cult of laxoholics would travel to Ethiopia for a chance to compete against the best.... the best 13 year olds.... Sad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely agree unfortunately Christians have been fighting the Sunday travel sports battle for years to no avail. Best of luck trying to change an already set culture of worshiping youth sports.

Every Sunday is alot, considering so many sports and largely weekend games. This is a holiday that happens once per year. For Jewish people it is the equivalent of having a tournament on Easter Sunday.

Same person, on multiple threads, often responding to his/her own comments. Give it a rest. Stay home!

FACT: majority of Christian people on this site, me included, would love a tournament on Easter Sunday. It would be like Christmas morning for us!! Go away!

You say your a Christian but clearly don't act like one. When you child moves out after HS how will you survive without the thrill of youth lacrosse to interfere with your religious beliefs or lack of.

Don’t worry about me, I’ll be just fine.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely agree unfortunately Christians have been fighting the Sunday travel sports battle for years to no avail. Best of luck trying to change an already set culture of worshiping youth sports.

Every Sunday is alot, considering so many sports and largely weekend games. This is a holiday that happens once per year. For Jewish people it is the equivalent of having a tournament on Easter Sunday.

Same person, on multiple threads, often responding to his/her own comments. Give it a rest. Stay home!

FACT: majority of Christian people on this site, me included, would love a tournament on Easter Sunday. It would be like Christmas morning for us!! Go away!

You say your a Christian but clearly don't act like one. When you child moves out after HS how will you survive without the thrill of youth lacrosse to interfere with your religious beliefs or lack of.

Don’t worry about me, I’ll be just fine.

Will be just fine because his son isn't moving out after HS. He'll return home and live in the basement well into his 30's making some side cash by offering private training to young kids around town because he made it to the "big time".....aka, making the roster of some obscure D3 lacrosse program, but never getting on field during a game.

When I coached PAL, they played on Passover(first day) but not Easter. My team which was half jewish and half non jewish didnt play and rescheduled the game for a weeknight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jake prays to Benjamin Franklin. And his cult of laxoholics would travel to Ethiopia for a chance to compete against the best.... the best 13 year olds.... Sad

Whoa feller why all the detest to a nice guy? If you are feeling a little flabby just put some more time in with the irons and you can have a ripped biceps like him. hit the gym and hit the wall together!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely agree unfortunately Christians have been fighting the Sunday travel sports battle for years to no avail. Best of luck trying to change an already set culture of worshiping youth sports.

Every Sunday is alot, considering so many sports and largely weekend games. This is a holiday that happens once per year. For Jewish people it is the equivalent of having a tournament on Easter Sunday.

Same person, on multiple threads, often responding to his/her own comments. Give it a rest. Stay home!

FACT: majority of Christian people on this site, me included, would love a tournament on Easter Sunday. It would be like Christmas morning for us!! Go away!

You say your a Christian but clearly don't act like one. When you child moves out after HS how will you survive without the thrill of youth lacrosse to interfere with your religious beliefs or lack of.

Don’t worry about me, I’ll be just fine.

Will be just fine because his son isn't moving out after HS. He'll return home and live in the basement well into his 30's making some side cash by offering private training to young kids around town because he made it to the "big time".....aka, making the roster of some obscure D3 lacrosse program, but never getting on field during a game.

And he will be making more money - CASH- then the parents paying him.

WOW! Thats a pretty good response. Actaully got a good laugh. Advantage: Last poster. Thx for the entertainment. Lets keep religion out of it though and stick to Lax.

Has anyone heard from their MS about Spring sports. Ours (Nassau), has only addressed the HS teams. Middle school sports seem to have always been an afterthought in our district. It is my belief that the schools should put more efforts into all three; academics, athletics (extracurriculars if not athletic) and community service. For what we pay on Long Island we fall way short on all three.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from their MS about Spring sports. Ours (Nassau), has only addressed the HS teams. Middle school sports seem to have always been an afterthought in our district. It is my belief that the schools should put more efforts into all three; academics, athletics (extracurriculars if not athletic) and community service. For what we pay on Long Island we fall way short on all three.

Our middle school is a go for Spring. They've actually opened up Winter II high risk sports and will have the Fall season in March/April.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from their MS about Spring sports. Ours (Nassau), has only addressed the HS teams. Middle school sports seem to have always been an afterthought in our district. It is my belief that the schools should put more efforts into all three; academics, athletics (extracurriculars if not athletic) and community service. For what we pay on Long Island we fall way short on all three.

I’m actually very concerned about Suffolk. They already cancelled middle school basketball. Lacrosse is outdoors but I’m still worried. With spring and fall sports condensed I could easily see section XI just cancelling middle school sports. I hope I’m wrong but nothing seems to make much sense these days

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from their MS about Spring sports. Ours (Nassau), has only addressed the HS teams. Middle school sports seem to have always been an afterthought in our district. It is my belief that the schools should put more efforts into all three; academics, athletics (extracurriculars if not athletic) and community service. For what we pay on Long Island we fall way short on all three.

I’m actually very concerned about Suffolk. They already cancelled middle school basketball. Lacrosse is outdoors but I’m still worried. With spring and fall sports condensed I could easily see section XI just cancelling middle school sports. I hope I’m wrong but nothing seems to make much sense these days

Your real concern should be how many 24's and 23's become 25's now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from their MS about Spring sports. Ours (Nassau), has only addressed the HS teams. Middle school sports seem to have always been an afterthought in our district. It is my belief that the schools should put more efforts into all three; academics, athletics (extracurriculars if not athletic) and community service. For what we pay on Long Island we fall way short on all three.

I’m actually very concerned about Suffolk. They already cancelled middle school basketball. Lacrosse is outdoors but I’m still worried. With spring and fall sports condensed I could easily see section XI just cancelling middle school sports. I hope I’m wrong but nothing seems to make much sense these days

Your real concern should be how many 24's and 23's become 25's now

Thats ok, I will just do the same and make him a 26. Easy peasy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely agree unfortunately Christians have been fighting the Sunday travel sports battle for years to no avail. Best of luck trying to change an already set culture of worshiping youth sports.

Every Sunday is alot, considering so many sports and largely weekend games. This is a holiday that happens once per year. For Jewish people it is the equivalent of having a tournament on Easter Sunday.

Same person, on multiple threads, often responding to his/her own comments. Give it a rest. Stay home!

FACT: majority of Christian people on this site, me included, would love a tournament on Easter Sunday. It would be like Christmas morning for us!! Go away!

So now you speak for the Christian majority? I speak for myself and would not want a tournament on Easter Sunday. Sounds like Christmas morning in your house is a real blast.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I completely agree unfortunately Christians have been fighting the Sunday travel sports battle for years to no avail. Best of luck trying to change an already set culture of worshiping youth sports.

Every Sunday is alot, considering so many sports and largely weekend games. This is a holiday that happens once per year. For Jewish people it is the equivalent of having a tournament on Easter Sunday.

Same person, on multiple threads, often responding to his/her own comments. Give it a rest. Stay home!

FACT: majority of Christian people on this site, me included, would love a tournament on Easter Sunday. It would be like Christmas morning for us!! Go away!

So now you speak for the Christian majority? I speak for myself and would not want a tournament on Easter Sunday. Sounds like Christmas morning in your house is a real blast.

This old topic... Can’t help yourself can you? Go away bible hugger.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from their MS about Spring sports. Ours (Nassau), has only addressed the HS teams. Middle school sports seem to have always been an afterthought in our district. It is my belief that the schools should put more efforts into all three; academics, athletics (extracurriculars if not athletic) and community service. For what we pay on Long Island we fall way short on all three.

I’m actually very concerned about Suffolk. They already cancelled middle school basketball. Lacrosse is outdoors but I’m still worried. With spring and fall sports condensed I could easily see section XI just cancelling middle school sports. I hope I’m wrong but nothing seems to make much sense these days

Your real concern should be how many 24's and 23's become 25's now

Thats ok, I will just do the same and make him a 26. Easy peasy.

public or private school? I doubt tax payers are going to foot the bill so your son can have a longer lax career

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from their MS about Spring sports. Ours (Nassau), has only addressed the HS teams. Middle school sports seem to have always been an afterthought in our district. It is my belief that the schools should put more efforts into all three; academics, athletics (extracurriculars if not athletic) and community service. For what we pay on Long Island we fall way short on all three.

I’m actually very concerned about Suffolk. They already cancelled middle school basketball. Lacrosse is outdoors but I’m still worried. With spring and fall sports condensed I could easily see section XI just cancelling middle school sports. I hope I’m wrong but nothing seems to make much sense these days

Your real concern should be how many 24's and 23's become 25's now

Thats ok, I will just do the same and make him a 26. Easy peasy.

public or private school? I doubt tax payers are going to foot the bill so your son can have a longer lax career

Private or PG. duh.

Anyone have a list of teams for the North qualifiers? Someone posted it for my youngest's 2026.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have a list of teams for the North qualifiers? Someone posted it for my youngest's 2026.

Not out yet but is 91 MD playing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have a list of teams for the North qualifiers? Someone posted it for my youngest's 2026.

Not out yet but is 91 MD playing?

Looked at 2026 this was there. Again this is 2026 NOT 2025. I am sure someone has 2025 registrants
WSYL emailed me the North Qualifier list..ECLIPSE NIGHTMARES
EXPRESS
2WAY
EXPRESS NORTH
FCA UPSTATE
IGLOO DIREWOLVES
LEGACY
LI EXPRESS
LI OUTLAWS
LI LACROSSE CLUB
ORANGE CRUSH
PREDATORS
PRIDE
PRIMETIME
ROAR
S2S
SWEETLAX UPSTATE
TEAM 91 ORANGE STORM

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Has anyone heard from their MS about Spring sports. Ours (Nassau), has only addressed the HS teams. Middle school sports seem to have always been an afterthought in our district. It is my belief that the schools should put more efforts into all three; academics, athletics (extracurriculars if not athletic) and community service. For what we pay on Long Island we fall way short on all three.

I’m actually very concerned about Suffolk. They already cancelled middle school basketball. Lacrosse is outdoors but I’m still worried. With spring and fall sports condensed I could easily see section XI just cancelling middle school sports. I hope I’m wrong but nothing seems to make much sense these days

Not sure if applies to all of Section 1 but our school canceled 7/8 middle school games with other schools. Students will do a one month inter-squad thing like intramurals in the spring.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have a list of teams for the North qualifiers? Someone posted it for my youngest's 2026.

Just email them, they will send the list to you. I got the east one from them.

Can you post the East qualifiers?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have a list of teams for the North qualifiers? Someone posted it for my youngest's 2026.

Just email them, they will send the list to you. I got the east one from them.

Isnt the idea here to share information

2021 14U WSYL North Qualifiers;

Eclipse Towers
CT Wolves
Express North
Grand Island
Igloo Northface
Legacy Lacrosse
LI Express
Orange Crush
Predators
Prime Time
Rebels
Regulators
Shore 2 Shore
Team 91 LI Shock
Team 91 Tristate Select

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2021 14U WSYL North Qualifiers;

Eclipse Towers
CT Wolves
Express North
Grand Island
Igloo Northface
Legacy Lacrosse
LI Express
Orange Crush
Predators
Prime Time
Rebels
Regulators
Shore 2 Shore
Team 91 LI Shock
Team 91 Tristate Select

Wow tough bracket. To advance out of this qualifier will be rough. Why have finale, this is the championship bracket.

It will be 91 vs express for the championship as it’s been that way since these kids were little

Regulators are the team to beat!!!

Where’s BBL or Laxchussettes

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be 91 vs express for the championship as it’s been that way since these kids were little

You’re not serious are you...91 is horrible. Please don’t use them in the same sentence as express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It will be 91 vs express for the championship as it’s been that way since these kids were little

You’re not serious are you...91 is horrible. Please don’t use them in the same sentence as express.

Dead serious! Last time they played, 91 beat Express handily.

That means easily, And they are used in the same sentence.

Never happened guy ....what was that 4 years ago lol. Probably around the same time 91 was losing to town teams hahaha. Get a grip , you hide in your own weak tournaments and youre just not a good team

I swear I swear it happened please pretty please believe me lol. What a fool and delusional

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never happened guy ....what was that 4 years ago lol. Probably around the same time 91 was losing to town teams hahaha. Get a grip , you hide in your own weak tournaments and youre just not a good team

Lol...you again? we all talk about how much time you must spend on tourney machine tracking this team. We're fine btw.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators are the team to beat!!!

In that everyone will beat them?

Some of the teams listed ought to save their money and do 3 local tournaments to get their kids better game time. A lot of these match ups will be like the Globetrotters vs the Generals. You know who you are.... Pull out and do the right thing. Noone wants to be a punching bag.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators are the team to beat!!!

What happens when Rebels plays Regulators? Half the team can't decide who to play for.

Rebels and Regulators what does that even mean?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Where’s BBL or Laxchussettes

BBL (NJ) is in the East. Laxachusetts is too old, typically on every level.

Does that even matter? The end result is another Loss either way...Neither team belongs in this conversation. Not from what I have seen at least. Those teams wouldn't beat any of the others in the bracket.

Who is favored now in WSYL for 2025 now that another year has passed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators are the team to beat!!!

What happens when Rebels plays Regulators? Half the team can't decide who to play for.

Not Rebels. Regulators are True Blue and Roar.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is favored now in WSYL for 2025 now that another year has passed?

Going to be a team not from NY!

I’ve never even heard of these teams??

Problem is we all have loaded up on holdbacks now unlike last year so what is the point? Last year we were a lock to win.

WSYL will be interesting. My son's U14 team does not have any holdbacks and we have been been beaten up pretty good by top 30 teams which presumably all have holdbacks as none of them are in the WSYL. Should be a fun event nonetheless. Win or lose, looking forward to playing good competition to make the boys continue to get better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WSYL will be interesting. My son's U14 team does not have any holdbacks and we have been been beaten up pretty good by top 30 teams which presumably all have holdbacks as none of them are in the WSYL. Should be a fun event nonetheless. Win or lose, looking forward to playing good competition to make the boys continue to get better.

You do realize WSYL is age eligible and verified event. holdback or not they play ON AGE. Every event lacrosse should be run on age. If soccer and hockey can do it why can't lacrosse??

You do realize WSYL is age eligible and verified event. holdback or not they play ON AGE. Every event lacrosse should be run on age. If soccer and hockey can do it why can't lacrosse??

Yes, I realize that WSYL is age-based eligible. Presumably the Top 30-ranked teams we have been playing have significant players over the age limit as they are not in the WSYL. Agree with your statement that all tournaments (at least below high school) should be age based. You could make an argument that at the high school level, kids will be playing on their school teams against kids of multiple age levels, but it should still be at least be grade-based.

On age, holdbacks, etc...It's all for nothing. Wake up already. Either go and play, accept the setup and the environment, or don't go. Is fairly simple. All of them know what they are signing up for (and paying for).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who is favored now in WSYL for 2025 now that another year has passed?

Going to be a team not from NY!

CoachC and it’s not even close

There are a million ways to answer this very important question:

1.Does anyone really care?

2. Favored for what? Paying the most for a tee shirt and an over-hyped experience?

3. Body By Jake: He's the one making bank

4. The Club Directors (see above)

5. Professionals helping parents that come back broke and tee shirt-less

Any other impactful questions?

Didn't take long for the psychos to get back on this page...

What’s the date for the qualifier and what state is it being held?

If you have to ask, it probably doesnt matter by now. Its not in NY anymore...

THAT WAS VERY SNOBBY

The North qualifier is in Frederica, Delaware on March 27th and 28th. Same days and location as the East qualifier. Should be a busy day with both qualifiers going on in the same place. The facility has about 12 fields.

World Series of Covid 19

World series of Covid 19 please stay home with your mask on.

Covid, masks, vaccines, whatever....stay on point. The event is a scam. Im not saying it a bad thing but the marketing of it and the kool aide aspect of it is what makes it a joke. The kids are pawns and the parents are sheep. .Baaaah ! Baaaaah! Why are they having the qualifiers in Delaware this year if this region's qualifier has been held on Long Island since inception of the big "event"? Can anyone answer that intelligently?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Covid, masks, vaccines, whatever....stay on point. The event is a scam. Im not saying it a bad thing but the marketing of it and the kool aide aspect of it is what makes it a joke. The kids are pawns and the parents are sheep. .Baaaah ! Baaaaah! Why are they having the qualifiers in Delaware this year if this region's qualifier has been held on Long Island since inception of the big "event"? Can anyone answer that intelligently?

Covid restrictions at Cantiaque which is run by the county. Same reason almost all summer tournaments typically on Long Island (spring lax jam, lax fest, etc) have been moved to NJ.

Translation: Circumvention to collect $. They are all about getting paid..not about the Lax, as they advertise. If you live on LI you have to drive 3 1/2 hrs to play all LI teams...what a shafting.

Last time I checked we are all adults and make adult decisions. If you don't want to go, don't go. These lacrosse clubs and tournaments are running businesses. There jobs are to provide a service. We are the suckers who pay the inflated prices.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Covid, masks, vaccines, whatever....stay on point. The event is a scam. Im not saying it a bad thing but the marketing of it and the kool aide aspect of it is what makes it a joke. The kids are pawns and the parents are sheep. .Baaaah ! Baaaaah! Why are they having the qualifiers in Delaware this year if this region's qualifier has been held on Long Island since inception of the big "event"? Can anyone answer that intelligently?

There is no intelligent answer other than to skirt the current covid restrictions in place on LI. The owners of the event refused to refund last years event, otherwise teams would have moved on. Clubs equally to blame because they run their own events and won't rock the boat by demanding refunds. Now we're forced to travel, pay for hotels, to play other LI teams. If you advance you get to spend to travel again (now twice) to see basically the same teams. Yes we are all stunands and will continue to get fleeced.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The North qualifier is in Frederica, Delaware on March 27th and 28th. Same days and location as the East qualifier. Should be a busy day with both qualifiers going on in the same place. The facility has about 12 fields.

Organizer laughing all the way to the bank. This year collects on 2 age groups. Also have to stay in the event hotels so they get kicked back.

What happened to sweetlax and LIRush?

They smartened up, pulled their teams from this "event" and decided they could play more meaningful tournaments locally?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Translation: Circumvention to collect $. They are all about getting paid..not about the Lax, as they advertise. If you live on LI you have to drive 3 1/2 hrs to play all LI teams...what a shafting.

Actually more than half of the teams listed in the East qualifier are non LI teams. It wont hurt you to get off the Island for a day.

Isnt it a 2 day thing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Translation: Circumvention to collect $. They are all about getting paid..not about the Lax, as they advertise. If you live on LI you have to drive 3 1/2 hrs to play all LI teams...what a shafting.

Actually more than half of the teams listed in the East qualifier are non LI teams. It wont hurt you to get off the Island for a day.

Tell that to the 500,000 families who lost people from COVID.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Translation: Circumvention to collect $. They are all about getting paid..not about the Lax, as they advertise. If you live on LI you have to drive 3 1/2 hrs to play all LI teams...what a shafting.

Actually more than half of the teams listed in the East qualifier are non LI teams. It wont hurt you to get off the Island for a day.

Tell that to the 500,000 families who lost people from COVID.

You, of course, realize that if you got sick off hospital food and died, you'd be listed as a COVID death, right? Hospitals get a bigger payout from the gov't and get to keep their non-COVID-related mortality rates low. Win-win for them. I'm not saying that hundreds of thousands of people have not died from COVID, I'm sure they have, I'm only saying don't believe the numbers you've been spoon-fed. Case in point - Cuomo killed Grandma.

It is indeed terrible that 500,000 people have died from COVID, but it's not due to people going to their kid's lacrosse tournaments. Again, it's terrible what's happened - let's try to make it through this together, not divided.

How many teams are advancing out of this 15 team North bracket?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Translation: Circumvention to collect $. They are all about getting paid..not about the Lax, as they advertise. If you live on LI you have to drive 3 1/2 hrs to play all LI teams...what a shafting.

Actually more than half of the teams listed in the East qualifier are non LI teams. It wont hurt you to get off the Island for a day.

Tell that to the 500,000 families who lost people from COVID.

You should probably stay home

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They smartened up, pulled their teams from this "event" and decided they could play more meaningful tournaments locally?

This was after they checked their birth certificates. Half of sweetlax ineligible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are advancing out of this 15 team North bracket?

As many as they need and are willing to pay. At least half

It depends on how many other regions continue to pull out. Last year they added an additional team from this region as they were short from other regions. The other regions are wise to the lie and are pulling out. Heck, so is Warrior for that matter: They actually cxl'd their sponsership after this year. No more free Fiddle sticks...Oh well! T shirts for everyone!! To answer your question, last year it was 6 and this year it will probably be more. Like the guy above said: Write the check and you too can be a "World Series Team". Be sure to buy the WSYL swag too as I am sure they will be cramming it down your throats at every turn! Good luck and stay safe!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams are advancing out of this 15 team North bracket?

As many as they need and are willing to pay. At least half

2019 had 7 teams advance. What does that tell you about the quality and competition from other regions.

What other regions? They are all bailing

What are the clubs doing to reduce their rosters for WSYL or do they? We are currently at 28 kids, just added another goalie so we have 2. Club hasn't communicated and yes I'm afraid to ask.

What do you think they are going to do? Easy question with an easy answer.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do you think they are going to do? Easy question with an easy answer.

Did WS change roster sizes because of covid?

You paid $3000 but your afraid to ask? Id love to be your Broker....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You paid $3000 but your afraid to ask? Id love to be your Broker....

I'd love to be your broker if you're paying $3000 for kids lacrosse

$3k is probably just the base fee. Then there are all of the extras: "Trainings" , additional scrimmages/games, etc that cost something. Throw in some Swag, hotels, meals, travel & whatever else they can squeeze you for. For that price, you should have the director on speed dial to find out what they are going to do if you carry 28 kids and only 25 can participate.

"Dont ask... dont get" Cha ching

25 kids only, rosters submitted 2/1 is my understanding.

Realistically how many kids on the AA teams are actual holdbacks? And was this something done years ago or are they being held back in older grades. Thanks for your answers, ill hang up and listen

Afraid to ask a question. Good God. That’s what happens to some of these people. They are so brainwashed by some of these coaches and directors. It’s laughable. I don’t think I can ever say those words IM AFRAID TO ASK. Oh by the way and I’m paying thousands.

NJ just declared a public health emergency. How in the H do people from NY think it's ok to travel to a 2 day tournament in Delaware. "Out-of-State Travel. Any individual who participates in an out-of-state tournament or competition (e.g., ice hockey, basketball, football, competitive cheer or dance) is strongly encouraged to immediately self-quarantine in accordance with DPH guidance from the time of entry into Delaware or for the duration of the individual’s presence in Delaware, whichever period is shorter". Boys lacrosse is still deemed in DE as a HIGH risk sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NJ just declared a public health emergency. How in the H do people from NY think it's ok to travel to a 2 day tournament in Delaware. "Out-of-State Travel. Any individual who participates in an out-of-state tournament or competition (e.g., ice hockey, basketball, football, competitive cheer or dance) is strongly encouraged to immediately self-quarantine in accordance with DPH guidance from the time of entry into Delaware or for the duration of the individual’s presence in Delaware, whichever period is shorter". Boys lacrosse is still deemed in DE as a HIGH risk sport.

For travelers who were out-of-state for more than 24 hours:
Travelers must obtain a test within three days of departure, prior to arrival in New York.
The traveler must, upon arrival in New York, quarantine for three days.
On day 4 of their quarantine, the traveler must obtain another COVID test. If both tests comes back negative, the traveler may exit quarantine early upon receipt of the second negative diagnostic test.

All this for a youth lacrosse tournament. You are NUTS!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NJ just declared a public health emergency. How in the H do people from NY think it's ok to travel to a 2 day tournament in Delaware. "Out-of-State Travel. Any individual who participates in an out-of-state tournament or competition (e.g., ice hockey, basketball, football, competitive cheer or dance) is strongly encouraged to immediately self-quarantine in accordance with DPH guidance from the time of entry into Delaware or for the duration of the individual’s presence in Delaware, whichever period is shorter". Boys lacrosse is still deemed in DE as a HIGH risk sport.

For travelers who were out-of-state for more than 24 hours:
Travelers must obtain a test within three days of departure, prior to arrival in New York.
The traveler must, upon arrival in New York, quarantine for three days.
On day 4 of their quarantine, the traveler must obtain another COVID test. If both tests comes back negative, the traveler may exit quarantine early upon receipt of the second negative diagnostic test.

All this for a youth lacrosse tournament. You are NUTS!

All teams will need to follow the standard guidelines outlined in the Delaware Phase 2 guidance found here: https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/restrictions/phase2/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NJ just declared a public health emergency. How in the H do people from NY think it's ok to travel to a 2 day tournament in Delaware. "Out-of-State Travel. Any individual who participates in an out-of-state tournament or competition (e.g., ice hockey, basketball, football, competitive cheer or dance) is strongly encouraged to immediately self-quarantine in accordance with DPH guidance from the time of entry into Delaware or for the duration of the individual’s presence in Delaware, whichever period is shorter". Boys lacrosse is still deemed in DE as a HIGH risk sport.

For travelers who were out-of-state for more than 24 hours:
Travelers must obtain a test within three days of departure, prior to arrival in New York.
The traveler must, upon arrival in New York, quarantine for three days.
On day 4 of their quarantine, the traveler must obtain another COVID test. If both tests comes back negative, the traveler may exit quarantine early upon receipt of the second negative diagnostic test.

All this for a youth lacrosse tournament. You are NUTS!

All teams will need to follow the standard guidelines outlined in the Delaware Phase 2 guidance found here: https://coronavirus.delaware.gov/restrictions/phase2/

Way too much to sift through. Our club directors and the event organizers are only concerned about our health and safety, right? None of this is about money, right? It's all about the kids.

Is there a link for this public emergency?

The problem is none of the Laxoholics are going to abide by the restrictions. Go to a practice for any of these teams: No masks for kids/coaches, parents huddle up maskless, etc Its a "me first" environment all the way up to the directors. As long as lil Johnny gets his T shirt who gives a hoot about the rest of it, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is none of the Laxoholics are going to abide by the restrictions. Go to a practice for any of these teams: No masks for kids/coaches, parents huddle up maskless, etc Its a "me first" environment all the way up to the directors. As long as lil Johnny gets his T shirt who gives a hoot about the rest of it, right?

The mental well-being of my child is the most important. If that's "me first" then sorry. My kid isn't going to win a t-shirt and will most likely get beat more times than he wins. He will be outside and hopefully, the sun will be out and he will enjoy being a kid. He will not be sitting inside playing the notIntelligent Xbox for another year as you would have him do. You have the right to stay home but will you please just leave the rest of us alone.

Thats a good response and I respect that and hopefully you are courteous to those around you. The problem is that most of the people are not and ruin it for people lik eyou and I.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is none of the Laxoholics are going to abide by the restrictions. Go to a practice for any of these teams: No masks for kids/coaches, parents huddle up maskless, etc Its a "me first" environment all the way up to the directors. As long as lil Johnny gets his T shirt who gives a hoot about the rest of it, right?

The mental well-being of my child is the most important. If that's "me first" then sorry. My kid isn't going to win a t-shirt and will most likely get beat more times than he wins. He will be outside and hopefully, the sun will be out and he will enjoy being a kid. He will not be sitting inside playing the notIntelligent Xbox for another year as you would have him do. You have the right to stay home but will you please just leave the rest of us alone.

We all have a decision to make, agreed? But how many will actually follow the mandates, properly distance, test before, maintain quarantine and test after? Not many I'm sure. This puts the general population at risk. Face it, you could care a less if your kids plays xbox all day, you just want to get out with your solo cup, scream directions to your kid and complain about the officiating. Sound familiar LI?

And cut a large check to do so!! Oh, Red solo cup, oh Ill fill you up!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is none of the Laxoholics are going to abide by the restrictions. Go to a practice for any of these teams: No masks for kids/coaches, parents huddle up maskless, etc Its a "me first" environment all the way up to the directors. As long as lil Johnny gets his T shirt who gives a hoot about the rest of it, right?

The mental well-being of my child is the most important. If that's "me first" then sorry. My kid isn't going to win a t-shirt and will most likely get beat more times than he wins. He will be outside and hopefully, the sun will be out and he will enjoy being a kid. He will not be sitting inside playing the notIntelligent Xbox for another year as you would have him do. You have the right to stay home but will you please just leave the rest of us alone.

We all have a decision to make, agreed? But how many will actually follow the mandates, properly distance, test before, maintain quarantine and test after? Not many I'm sure. This puts the general population at risk. Face it, you could care a less if your kids plays xbox all day, you just want to get out with your solo cup, scream directions to your kid and complain about the officiating. Sound familiar LI?

I want to bring my NY cooties to that swamp of a state called Maryland. That's it.

Express got manhandled today in Maryland. What’s up

You could put the paranoia aside and go to a tournament out of state and still follow guidelines and be smart whole the kids have fun . Let's face the real facts ...the clubs that won't leave the state are not concerned about the kids they are concerned about their pockets and dont wane to pay for out of state tournaments. I know for a fact that a club on long island with an indoor facility had a covid outbreak a few months ago and tried to hide it from everyone . So keys not pretend the clubs that aren't going tomiut of state tournaments care about the kids safety . They literally lied to their own parents about the outbreak . So stop playing yourself and saying you are concerned to leave the state .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got manhandled today in Maryland. What’s up

Manhandled is the correct word. 14 year old boys playing against men. Can't believe they let these holdbacks play at the 2025 level.

And in 2 weeks everyone will be in their glory at the "Big event" where all can be settled in the world of 14 year old lacrosse...

Does anyone have numbers on other regions. 2026 teams very short at other regions, I assume same for 2025. Looks like majority of teams advancing will come from North and East. What about International? Is WSYL intentionally not advertising who is registered?

Advance? You mean go to DC by default as there are no other teams that care enough in other regions?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is none of the Laxoholics are going to abide by the restrictions. Go to a practice for any of these teams: No masks for kids/coaches, parents huddle up maskless, etc Its a "me first" environment all the way up to the directors. As long as lil Johnny gets his T shirt who gives a hoot about the rest of it, right?

The mental well-being of my child is the most important. If that's "me first" then sorry. My kid isn't going to win a t-shirt and will most likely get beat more times than he wins. He will be outside and hopefully, the sun will be out and he will enjoy being a kid. He will not be sitting inside playing the notIntelligent Xbox for another year as you would have him do. You have the right to stay home but will you please just leave the rest of us alone.

We all have a decision to make, agreed? But how many will actually follow the mandates, properly distance, test before, maintain quarantine and test after? Not many I'm sure. This puts the general population at risk. Face it, you could care a less if your kids plays xbox all day, you just want to get out with your solo cup, scream directions to your kid and complain about the officiating. Sound familiar LI?

I want to bring my NY cooties to that swamp of a state called Maryland. That's it.

Thanks for coming down. Glad our MD teams got to show you some of our hospitality. Hope you had a safe trip home.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got manhandled today in Maryland. What’s up

Manhandled is the correct word. 14 year old boys playing against men. Can't believe they let these holdbacks play at the 2025 level.

That Black Ops team was formed just for the WSYL. All on age.

Express got manhandled today in Maryland. What’s up

Manhandled is the correct word. 14 year old boys playing against men. Can't believe they let these holdbacks play at the 2025 level.

That Black Ops team was formed just for the WSYL. All on age.

LI Express went 2-4. While they lost to Black Ops who is on age, by one goal, most of the teams that the LI Express team played and lost to were not on age (non- WSYL) - Next Level Blue, FCA, DC Express. They beat Leading Edge (not on-age) by 5.goals and beat Mad Dog (on age) by 2 goals. LI Express will probably do just fine in WSYL, but they just don't look as dominant as in years past.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got manhandled today in Maryland. What’s up

Manhandled is the correct word. 14 year old boys playing against men. Can't believe they let these holdbacks play at the 2025 level.

That Black Ops team was formed just for the WSYL. All on age.

Express was just too small. However, the difference was only 1 goal. But CoachC played 6 games and never showed all his cards. Black Ops played 2 games and emptied the tank. My money is still on the teeth for the title!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got manhandled today in Maryland. What’s up

Manhandled is the correct word. 14 year old boys playing against men. Can't believe they let these holdbacks play at the 2025 level.

That Black Ops team was formed just for the WSYL. All on age.

And that was an excellent game - back and forth into OT. Could have went either way. Express certainly wasn't manhandled there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got manhandled today in Maryland. What’s up

Manhandled is the correct word. 14 year old boys playing against men. Can't believe they let these holdbacks play at the 2025 level.

That Black Ops team was formed just for the WSYL. All on age.

Isn't that something? WSYL website....

All players must compete with their team or program on a regular basis. Players cannot be added only to participate in the WSYL and teams cannot be formed out of a partnership or alliance between two or more standalone clubs. The intention of this rule is prevent the formation of all-star teams for the purpose of participating in the WSYL.

Hmmmmmm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got manhandled today in Maryland. What’s up

Manhandled is the correct word. 14 year old boys playing against men. Can't believe they let these holdbacks play at the 2025 level.

That Black Ops team was formed just for the WSYL. All on age.

Isn't that something? WSYL website....

All players must compete with their team or program on a regular basis. Players cannot be added only to participate in the WSYL and teams cannot be formed out of a partnership or alliance between two or more standalone clubs. The intention of this rule is prevent the formation of all-star teams for the purpose of participating in the WSYL.

Hmmmmmm

Glass houses? Stones? Anyone at Express know this saying? Chanster created the “he is going to reclass” excuse and things like boarding a Philly fogo for his teams benefit. Cant believe people still complain about age difference to make up for losing. Especially anyone associated with LIE.

This was a close game that could have gone either way. But to use the 6 games vs 2 games comparison is bogus since it was the first game for both teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got manhandled today in Maryland. What’s up

Manhandled is the correct word. 14 year old boys playing against men. Can't believe they let these holdbacks play at the 2025 level.

That Black Ops team was formed just for the WSYL. All on age.

Isn't that something? WSYL website....

All players must compete with their team or program on a regular basis. Players cannot be added only to participate in the WSYL and teams cannot be formed out of a partnership or alliance between two or more standalone clubs. The intention of this rule is prevent the formation of all-star teams for the purpose of participating in the WSYL.

Hmmmmmm

Losing the luster. If it didn’t move to Maryland it would probably suffered. Teams simply don’t want to compete on age. It is just that simple. It’s a holdback culture, especially at this age. The only thing is I used to think it was unfair and I now I wish I held my son back. It certainly increases opportunity down the road.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This was a close game that could have gone either way. But to use the 6 games vs 2 games comparison is bogus since it was the first game for both teams.

Long haul vs empty the tank.... tournament lacrosse is different than going all out for two. Going 2-4 was a failure, but if Black Ops plays Express again, Express wins

And no kid on either team will make a living playing lacrosse. Move on, enjoy the games and enjoy watching your kids.

ILNA(Italy Lacrosse North America) will be forming 2 teams on Long Island: a 7/8 and a 9/10. We will be participating in 2 tournaments: Lake Placid and NELS in Sudbury MA. The cost will be $640 for the two tournaments. Players will receive: helmet, uniform, 2 performance shirts and a polo. We will try to hold 2 practices before each tournament. If players are of Italian descent and are interested in playing, email Joe Baccarella at jbaccarella@italialacrosse.us

Black Ops; We have combined three of the top clubs within the DC Metropolitan area to assemble an elite group of lacrosse players to compete on a national level. BTW one of those clubs is Express DC. Don't think anyone will be "enforcing" the WSYL rules. Are Black Ops even attending qualifiers?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Express got manhandled today in Maryland. What’s up

Manhandled is the correct word. 14 year old boys playing against men. Can't believe they let these holdbacks play at the 2025 level.

That Black Ops team was formed just for the WSYL. All on age.

Isn't that something? WSYL website....

All players must compete with their team or program on a regular basis. Players cannot be added only to participate in the WSYL and teams cannot be formed out of a partnership or alliance between two or more standalone clubs. The intention of this rule is prevent the formation of all-star teams for the purpose of participating in the WSYL.

Hmmmmmm

Losing the luster. If it didn’t move to Maryland it would probably suffered. Teams simply don’t want to compete on age. It is just that simple. It’s a holdback culture, especially at this age. The only thing is I used to think it was unfair and I now I wish I held my son back. It certainly increases opportunity down the road.

Black Ops; We have combined three of the top clubs within the DC Metropolitan area to assemble an elite group of lacrosse players to compete on a national level. BTW one of those clubs is Express DC. Don't think anyone will be "enforcing" the WSYL rules. Are Black Ops even attending qualifiers?

This pretty much sums up youth East Coast Lacrosse. The "Elite" teams aren't good enough to compete with their on age players, so they don't attend WSYL, or if they do, they have to form an All Star Team. And, please don't talk about it being a money grab....it is is DC this year. What seemed like a great idea 5-6 years ago, has now just become an All Star Event.

how many kids are legit holdbacks?

For which team?

For the East WSYL Regional, all you have to do is look to see who isn't there...

DC Express
Next Level
Team 91
Hawks
FCA

A couple of these teams have as many as 9 holdbacks. Their parents freely talk about it on the sidelines. And, before I have to hear that my son needs to "hit the wall", I am just sharing what we have witnessed, and since US Lacrosse won't change it, it is what it is. However, it does make it extremely difficult for the good teams to compete against.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the East WSYL Regional, all you have to do is look to see who isn't there...

DC Express
Next Level
Team 91
Hawks
FCA

A couple of these teams have as many as 9 holdbacks. Their parents freely talk about it on the sidelines. And, before I have to hear that my son needs to "hit the wall", I am just sharing what we have witnessed, and since US Lacrosse won't change it, it is what it is. However, it does make it extremely difficult for the good teams to compete against.

Looks like a lot of teams have given up on this tournament

which 91 team

Team 91 MD

Originally Posted by Anonymous

For the East WSYL Regional, all you have to do is look to see who isn't there...

DC Express
Next Level
Team 91
Hawks
FCA

A couple of these teams have as many as 9 holdbacks. Their parents freely talk about it on the sidelines. And, before I have to hear that my son needs to "hit the wall", I am just sharing what we have witnessed, and since US Lacrosse won't change it, it is what it is. However, it does make it extremely difficult for the good teams to compete against.

Looks like a lot of teams have given up on this tournament

US Lacrosse has tried. And it was the clubs that didn’t go along with age. Even PAL, which is not for profit and “not about winning” would not go age. It is the clubs that dictate this. And as for PAL, they could have had changed it, but voted it down.

"holdbacks" Enough already....Only thing being held back is your wallet and your free time. If your kid's team cannot compete against a team that has a few kids that are older by a few months then his team probably shouldnt be there in the first place. Just sayin.... Its so lame listening to these kind of gripes. "Johnny wont get his t shirt because Club A had 3 hold backs...." GET OVER IT The good teams welcome any challenge, not make excuses.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"holdbacks" Enough already....Only thing being held back is your wallet and your free time. If your kid's team cannot compete against a team that has a few kids that are older by a few months then his team probably shouldnt be there in the first place. Just sayin.... Its so lame listening to these kind of gripes. "Johnny wont get his t shirt because Club A had 3 hold backs...." GET OVER IT The good teams welcome any challenge, not make excuses.

Thanks holdback Dad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And no kid on either team will make a living playing lacrosse. Move on, enjoy the games and enjoy watching your kids.

The end goal for lacrosse is getting into a good college, not making a living playing the game.

That said your advice is very sound.

I would think the end game is to keep your son busy, around other kids and playing a great sport. If he wants to get into College his grades should take care of that, no? Lax scholarships are basically pennies. Cold hearted fact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would think the end game is to keep your son busy, around other kids and playing a great sport. If he wants to get into College his grades should take care of that, no? Lax scholarships are basically pennies. Cold hearted fact

It's not about the scholarship money -- it's about the admissions help.

Being a recruited athlete will get your 1150 SAT kid into Duke or UVA and your 1350 SAT kid into Yale or Dartmouth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I would think the end game is to keep your son busy, around other kids and playing a great sport. If he wants to get into College his grades should take care of that, no? Lax scholarships are basically pennies. Cold hearted fact

It's not about the scholarship money -- it's about the admissions help.

Being a recruited athlete will get your 1150 SAT kid into Duke or UVA and your 1350 SAT kid into Yale or Dartmouth.

Correct. My nephew played at Lehigh. No scholarship, but lacrosse helped him and his very good GPA and SAT get into a school that requires a very, very good GPA and SAT.

"holdbacks" Enough already....Only thing being held back is your wallet and your free time. If your kid's team cannot compete against a team that has a few kids that are older by a few months then his team probably shouldnt be there in the first place. Just sayin.... Its so lame listening to these kind of gripes. "Johnny wont get his t shirt because Club A had 3 hold backs...." GET OVER IT The good teams welcome any challenge, not make excuses.

....Well. why don't those given 3 kids who are held back play at their own grade level and "accept the challenge"? In fact if you use your own logic, those 3 kids should be "accepting the challenge" and playing up one grade, not dropping down.

I agree but I am not a director, coach or aspiring parent ... They all have different motives..... thats why the whole tournament has become a joke and we, the people, are the clowns....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"holdbacks" Enough already....Only thing being held back is your wallet and your free time. If your kid's team cannot compete against a team that has a few kids that are older by a few months then his team probably shouldnt be there in the first place. Just sayin.... Its so lame listening to these kind of gripes. "Johnny wont get his t shirt because Club A had 3 hold backs...." GET OVER IT The good teams welcome any challenge, not make excuses.

....Well. why don't those given 3 kids who are held back play at their own grade level and "accept the challenge"? In fact if you use your own logic, those 3 kids should be "accepting the challenge" and playing up one grade, not dropping down.

I dont know. My son's team has 3 "holdbacks". They are all May through Aug birthdays. I'm not even sure if that fits the holdback definition. I know the parents well enough and the kids all started pre K late on purpose. I cant imagine they were looking at having an advantage in HS lacrosse at that point.

No Super teams allowed!

https://capital.madlax.com/monuments

This is why this will be the last year of this silly tournament

The Madlax Monuments World Series Teams will compete in the World Series of Youth Lacrosse June 30-July 3, 2021!
This is a loaded and pure DMV Team made up of the most talented players from the DMV from any and all clubs.
Both 14U & 13U Teams are open to any new outstanding players from any club team. There will be no conflicts with your current club team schedule. This is in addition to it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Super teams allowed!

https://capital.madlax.com/monuments

No different than Express pulling the top kid(s) from programs throughout LI, Westchester and Connecticut.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Super teams allowed!

https://capital.madlax.com/monuments

Anything to skirt the rules. In full view of WSYL and no response. The whole event is dirty and just about the money. That's why they kept the 14u this year. They didn't have to refund the money and kept the clubs on the hook for another year. WINNING

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Super teams allowed!

https://capital.madlax.com/monuments

Anything to skirt the rules. In full view of WSYL and no response. The whole event is dirty and just about the money. That's why they kept the 14u this year. They didn't have to refund the money and kept the clubs on the hook for another year. WINNING

Only 2 required practices it says on their website.

Where's Jake?!? His bank account Won't Quit!

Again, cant blame the clubs, the directors, Jake, tee shirt vendors, etc Blame the parents who view this "event" as something meaningful. Sheep always get eaten by wolves. Baaaaaahhhhhh!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Super teams allowed!

https://capital.madlax.com/monuments

Anything to skirt the rules. In full view of WSYL and no response. The whole event is dirty and just about the money. That's why they kept the 14u this year. They didn't have to refund the money and kept the clubs on the hook for another year. WINNING

Only 2 required practices it says on their website.

Super teams are totally unacceptable!

The WSYL organization must protect the integrity that this tournament was founded upon.

The WSYL actions here now will determine its long-term sustainable success. Do NOT update the rules next year...they were simply guidelines to prevent super teams.

Send a clear message to the lax community: “Bring your team to compete for the title on an equal playing field.”

Now refund that team’s money and it will continue to flow in for many years to come.

Fair competition. Protect it!!!

Dude needs a life

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Super teams allowed!

https://capital.madlax.com/monuments

No different than Express pulling the top kid(s) from programs throughout LI, Westchester and Connecticut.

This is a loaded and pure DMV Team made up of the most talented players from the DMV from any and all clubs. On their website. Call Jake! This is blatant. Wouldn't it be amazing for Madlax to have to give back the money you know they charged all these families already, since they violated the detailed rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Super teams allowed!

https://capital.madlax.com/monuments

No different than Express pulling the top kid(s) from programs throughout LI, Westchester and Connecticut.

This is a loaded and pure DMV Team made up of the most talented players from the DMV from any and all clubs. On their website. Call Jake! This is blatant. Wouldn't it be amazing for Madlax to have to give back the money you know they charged all these families already, since they violated the detailed rules.

If the clubs had any stones they'd pull their teams out. They won't. They'll keep selling you on the competition and experience being good for the kids. How is this a positive experience when the deck is stacked against you.
Good luck against regional all star teams. Luckily our team won't make it past our qualifier. WSYL shame on you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No Super teams allowed!

https://capital.madlax.com/monuments

No different than Express pulling the top kid(s) from programs throughout LI, Westchester and Connecticut.

This is a loaded and pure DMV Team made up of the most talented players from the DMV from any and all clubs. On their website. Call Jake! This is blatant. Wouldn't it be amazing for Madlax to have to give back the money you know they charged all these families already, since they violated the detailed rules.

If the clubs had any stones they'd pull their teams out. They won't. They'll keep selling you on the competition and experience being good for the kids. How is this a positive experience when the deck is stacked against you.
Good luck against regional all star teams. Luckily our team won't make it past our qualifier. WSYL shame on you.

It doesnt matter. Neither Madlax or Black Ops win it.

Jake is the only winner..... wake up

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

Stay less than 24 hours and quarantine does not apply. Business trip!

Cuomo the Tyrant isnt worried about tracking any longer. Hes too busy lying and covering his tracks. Go to tournaments and have fun with your kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

👌

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

Stay less than 24 hours and quarantine does not apply. Business trip!

ITS A 2 DAY TOURNAMENT! ATTITUDES LIKE YOURS EXACTLY WHY WE'LL BE STUCK WITH THESE RESTRICTIONS THROUGH THE SUMMER. KIDS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TEST POSITIVE SINCE THEY WONT BE VACCINATED UNTIL NEXT YEAR. YES I'M YELLING AT YOUR SELFISH AND IGNORANT ATTITUDE.

Noone will abide. Hence the issue. But its all for a great cause: 14 yr old kiddie lax....Im hoping to boost my self esteem, live vicariously thru my kid and not contract Covid at the same time. Heck, Ill even get a day off from pumping cesspools. At least we will get to hang out with the same parents we see at every LI tournament, game, playdate or whatever the new "code name" is for it now. Lax is life!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

👌

Proven scientific fact. The lower your IQ the greater chance you have a getting covid. I believe this thread proves that point.

Several states -- Delaware, Idaho, Minnesota, Nevada, Oregon and West Virginia -- have seen their case averages increase by at least 25% in the last week.

WSSE World Series SuperSpreader Event

Cant wait to see who the 14 yr champ is so we can all forget who "won" it by next week! Who won it the year before last?

Mic drop

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

Stay less than 24 hours and quarantine does not apply. Business trip!

ITS A 2 DAY TOURNAMENT! ATTITUDES LIKE YOURS EXACTLY WHY WE'LL BE STUCK WITH THESE RESTRICTIONS THROUGH THE SUMMER. KIDS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TEST POSITIVE SINCE THEY WONT BE VACCINATED UNTIL NEXT YEAR. YES I'M YELLING AT YOUR SELFISH AND IGNORANT ATTITUDE.

24 hour trip out of an adjoining state of NY. I can tell you that I know of a hotel in NJ that is booked with lacrosse families. Don't be so ignorant and if you're yelling at a computer you need help mom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

Stay less than 24 hours and quarantine does not apply. Business trip!

ITS A 2 DAY TOURNAMENT! ATTITUDES LIKE YOURS EXACTLY WHY WE'LL BE STUCK WITH THESE RESTRICTIONS THROUGH THE SUMMER. KIDS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TEST POSITIVE SINCE THEY WONT BE VACCINATED UNTIL NEXT YEAR. YES I'M YELLING AT YOUR SELFISH AND IGNORANT ATTITUDE.

24 hour trip out of an adjoining state of NY. I can tell you that I know of a hotel in NJ that is booked with lacrosse families. Don't be so ignorant and if you're yelling at a computer you need help mom.

Yes I am a mom and you are an absolute fool. The tournament is in Delaware. Are you really that desperate that you will refuse to quarantine because you'll claim you we in NJ not DE. If you've lost someone due to the virus maybe you would feel differently but there is no sense trying to change your simple mind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

Stay less than 24 hours and quarantine does not apply. Business trip!

ITS A 2 DAY TOURNAMENT! ATTITUDES LIKE YOURS EXACTLY WHY WE'LL BE STUCK WITH THESE RESTRICTIONS THROUGH THE SUMMER. KIDS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TEST POSITIVE SINCE THEY WONT BE VACCINATED UNTIL NEXT YEAR. YES I'M YELLING AT YOUR SELFISH AND IGNORANT ATTITUDE.

Is this a serious post? For North region I would assume it will be structured in a way that teams are there for less than 24 hours. Afternoon start Saturday and Sunday morning games. Jake has our backs.

Anyone that hung up on a kiddie lax tourney, out of state, during a pandemic cannot be reached. They see and believe what they want: Like their kid is an all star.... but yet never plays..hmmmmmm

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

Stay less than 24 hours and quarantine does not apply. Business trip!

ITS A 2 DAY TOURNAMENT! ATTITUDES LIKE YOURS EXACTLY WHY WE'LL BE STUCK WITH THESE RESTRICTIONS THROUGH THE SUMMER. KIDS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TEST POSITIVE SINCE THEY WONT BE VACCINATED UNTIL NEXT YEAR. YES I'M YELLING AT YOUR SELFISH AND IGNORANT ATTITUDE.

Is this a serious post? For North region I would assume it will be structured in a way that teams are there for less than 24 hours. Afternoon start Saturday and Sunday morning games. Jake has our backs.

Of course he does. Good luck with that. Corona please, hold the lime

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

Stay less than 24 hours and quarantine does not apply. Business trip!

ITS A 2 DAY TOURNAMENT! ATTITUDES LIKE YOURS EXACTLY WHY WE'LL BE STUCK WITH THESE RESTRICTIONS THROUGH THE SUMMER. KIDS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TEST POSITIVE SINCE THEY WONT BE VACCINATED UNTIL NEXT YEAR. YES I'M YELLING AT YOUR SELFISH AND IGNORANT ATTITUDE.

24 hour trip out of an adjoining state of NY. I can tell you that I know of a hotel in NJ that is booked with lacrosse families. Don't be so ignorant and if you're yelling at a computer you need help mom.

Yes I am a mom and you are an absolute fool. The tournament is in Delaware. Are you really that desperate that you will refuse to quarantine because you'll claim you we in NJ not DE. If you've lost someone due to the virus maybe you would feel differently but there is no sense trying to change your simple mind.

Sounds good Karen. Go hide in Biden’s basement.

restrictions will be gone by 4/1.. Plus, you are a fool to think any of these protocols are making a difference. Florida and other states have been playing tournaments and none of these restrictions were in place and their numbers are much better than ours. Show the science that proves these restrictions help . i have lost people to the flu, to covid and other things as well. We cant be afraid living our lives anymore.. TIME TO LIVE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Remember people. Travel and quarantine rules still in effect since we're going to DE. Tests before, quarantine for 3 days and test on day 4 after returning. If you don't test on day 4 you MUST quarantine for 4 days. King Cuomo is tracking, and don't think for a minute your kids friends won't rat you them to the schools. Show of hands how many of you "honest" individuals will abide.

Stay less than 24 hours and quarantine does not apply. Business trip!

ITS A 2 DAY TOURNAMENT! ATTITUDES LIKE YOURS EXACTLY WHY WE'LL BE STUCK WITH THESE RESTRICTIONS THROUGH THE SUMMER. KIDS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TEST POSITIVE SINCE THEY WONT BE VACCINATED UNTIL NEXT YEAR. YES I'M YELLING AT YOUR SELFISH AND IGNORANT ATTITUDE.

^^ Crazy person alert right here ^^

Originally Posted by Anonymous

restrictions will be gone by 4/1.. Plus, you are a fool to think any of these protocols are making a difference. Florida and other states have been playing tournaments and none of these restrictions were in place and their numbers are much better than ours. Show the science that proves these restrictions help . i have lost people to the flu, to covid and other things as well. We cant be afraid living our lives anymore.. TIME TO LIVE

Do I agree with the rules, not really. Do I agree they make a difference, debatable. What message does this send to our kids that the rules don't apply to us because they play lacrosse. Oh I forgot, lax is life. Red solo cup, fill me up.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

restrictions will be gone by 4/1.. Plus, you are a fool to think any of these protocols are making a difference. Florida and other states have been playing tournaments and none of these restrictions were in place and their numbers are much better than ours. Show the science that proves these restrictions help . i have lost people to the flu, to covid and other things as well. We cant be afraid living our lives anymore.. TIME TO LIVE

Do I agree with the rules, not really. Do I agree they make a difference, debatable. What message does this send to our kids that the rules don't apply to us because they play lacrosse. Oh I forgot, lax is life. Red solo cup, fill me up.

You must be the person that says they never speed on the road. You're so good. Hopefully, your kids don't see you speeding. It would be such a bad example. Cannot wait for my red solo cup. May go down a day early and sit in the bleachers with it.

14U WSYL North tournament schedule... https://lacrosse.exposureevents.com/164109/2021-wsyl-north-qualifier/schedule

Wow Some of these team have no shot. Too late for a refund?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

14U WSYL North tournament schedule... https://lacrosse.exposureevents.com/164109/2021-wsyl-north-qualifier/schedule

A bracket easier path. Much better teams on B side

i have no problem following rules when they make sense. MOST DO NOT.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

14U WSYL North tournament schedule... https://lacrosse.exposureevents.com/164109/2021-wsyl-north-qualifier/schedule

A bracket easier path. Much better teams on B side

They are fair. A has great teams - Express, Regulators, Igloo - all good. With 2 teams coming out of the South, West and Central, all these teams will qualify anyway.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

14U WSYL North tournament schedule... https://lacrosse.exposureevents.com/164109/2021-wsyl-north-qualifier/schedule

A bracket easier path. Much better teams on B side

They are fair. A has great teams - Express, Regulators, Igloo - all good. With 2 teams coming out of the South, West and Central, all these teams will qualify anyway.

Regulators are great? Really? Stop it!

Dear All Caps Karen,

The Covid 19 rules for NY say that if you are out of state for less than 24 hours you do not have to quarantine. That is why the WSYL teams and one or two of the best ones in particular have chosen not to play both days in the PrimeTime Tournament this weekend. These teams are making informed and intelligent choices and are keeping their “foreign travel” to 23:59:59 or less.

So put down the keyboard and step away from the computer Professional help is out there, dial 1 800 Help Mee!

Everyone in both brackets will "Qualify" as the rest of the country DOES NOT CARE!!!! Fact! And is there really any accomplishment in that? I guess we all find satisfaction in different things. But some of the teams mentioned are mediocre at best.

8th accuser just came out against Cuomo meaning more restrictions will be lifted. All the psychos on here should be quarantine free now after thier precious youth lax tourney

Originally Posted by Anonymous

14U WSYL North tournament schedule... https://lacrosse.exposureevents.com/164109/2021-wsyl-north-qualifier/schedule

A bracket easier path. Much better teams on B side

They are fair. A has great teams - Express, Regulators, Igloo - all good. With 2 teams coming out of the South, West and Central, all these teams will qualify anyway.

Regulators are great? Really? Stop it!

They will surprise alot of people. Talent and coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

14U WSYL North tournament schedule... https://lacrosse.exposureevents.com/164109/2021-wsyl-north-qualifier/schedule

A bracket easier path. Much better teams on B side

They are fair. A has great teams - Express, Regulators, Igloo - all good. With 2 teams coming out of the South, West and Central, all these teams will qualify anyway.

Regulators are great? Really? Stop it!

They will surprise alot of people. Talent and coaching.

Nah. Good news is any/every team from the qualifier gets to go. Ask igloo from 2 years ago. They were “close enough”.

The kids want to play more than anyone. If you and your kids don’t want to play don’t play

Holy garbage. 91 is a disaster. Destroyed by sweet lax FL and it was even worse than the score. Team totally quit. Good think the donks was home on his couch and didn’t have to watch. Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend.

When did they play?

You mean the kids that’s chokes under pressure?

They played in Delaware today

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You mean the kids that’s chokes under pressure?

Hardly pressure when you’re getting spanked by that much.

I don't think you realize how good SweetLax Florida is. They are awesome. May not win it all, but they are awesome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't think you realize how good SweetLax Florida is. They are awesome. May not win it all, but they are awesome.

You can do a lot of damage with a fogo and a goalie. That’s about it for them. Nice gear though.

Sweetlax went 1-2 on Saturday and 1-2 on Sunday, not exactly Awesome. Looks like Prime Time and Eclipse are the teams to watch based on this past weekend.

How many teams can qualify this weekend from our bracket?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sweetlax went 1-2 on Saturday and 1-2 on Sunday, not exactly Awesome. Looks like Prime Time and Eclipse are the teams to watch based on this past weekend.

PrimeTime had 1 goal OT win against 91 and didn’t play express. The Monuments were very big with a good goalie, they lost to 91 in OT and beat CoachC. Sweet lax lost by 1 to express...

It’s anyone’s game right now. Bet this doesn’t get a real answer until July.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sweetlax went 1-2 on Saturday and 1-2 on Sunday, not exactly Awesome. Looks like Prime Time and Eclipse are the teams to watch based on this past weekend.

I am guessing that most of the Sweetlax FLA team is their 2026 team that is too old since they didnt enter a 2026 team?

Didn't see the game, but the FOGO for the 2025 team is amazing (number 5, when we played them). May be their 2025 team. You can probably look on their twitter account and find out.

I'm really surprised they didn't do better this weekend. They have some major talent on that team. Was anyone there to see if #99 played? He is a fantastic athlete and difference maker.

Also, looked like BBL had a good showing...was that their WSYL team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage. 91 is a disaster. Destroyed by sweet lax FL and it was even worse than the score. Team totally quit. Good think the donks was home on his couch and didn’t have to watch. Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend.

Lol....that's what happens when you come out of hiding and you don't play in your own weak "mylollipop tournaments" . Happens with all of the years at 91. And that's why you don't see them outside of their own tournaments much

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm really surprised they didn't do better this weekend. They have some major talent on that team. Was anyone there to see if #99 played? He is a fantastic athlete and difference maker.

Also, looked like BBL had a good showing...was that their WSYL team?

BBL is a frontrunner. Well coached and disciplined!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I'm really surprised they didn't do better this weekend. They have some major talent on that team. Was anyone there to see if #99 played? He is a fantastic athlete and difference maker.

Also, looked like BBL had a good showing...was that their WSYL team?

He was there. Good player. Very selfish

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How many teams can qualify this weekend from our bracket?

The top 6 (if you call it that) maybe more. Other regions are not well represented so only a few teams outside of the North and East will play. South only sending 2, etc....

They keep taking extras as other regions keep bailing out. So just about everyone from the North. A great "event".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage. 91 is a disaster. Destroyed by sweet lax FL and it was even worse than the score. Team totally quit. Good think the donks was home on his couch and didn’t have to watch. Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend.

He's flashy and arrogant but not a difference-maker. 91 will rally on their own.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage. 91 is a disaster. Destroyed by sweet lax FL and it was even worse than the score. Team totally quit. Good think the donks was home on his couch and didn’t have to watch. Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend.

He's flashy and arrogant but not a difference-maker. 91 will rally on their own.

Classless move, bashing a specific child, hiding behind an anonymous forum tag. Moderator please take down this vile post

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage. 91 is a disaster. Destroyed by sweet lax FL and it was even worse than the score. Team totally quit. Good think the donks was home on his couch and didn’t have to watch. Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend.

He's flashy and arrogant but not a difference-maker. 91 will rally on their own.

Classless move, bashing a specific child, hiding behind an anonymous forum tag. Moderator please take down this vile post

Calling someone flashy and arrogant is by far not a vile post.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage. 91 is a disaster. Destroyed by sweet lax FL and it was even worse than the score. Team totally quit. Good think the donks was home on his couch and didn’t have to watch. Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend.

He's flashy and arrogant but not a difference-maker. 91 will rally on their own.

Classless move, bashing a specific child, hiding behind an anonymous forum tag. Moderator please take down this vile post

Calling someone flashy and arrogant is by far not a vile post.

Specifically calling out someone else 13/14 year old child is vile and cowardly. You want to comment on a professional or college athlete fine. Would you be ok with someone walking over to you on the sideline and being critical of your child? Than why is it ok to do it here hiding behind a keyboard.

Stop already. 14 yr old lacrosse for God sake.... IT DOESNT MATTER Just keep writing your checks. Thank you!

Is forming an all-star team for WSYL like deflating footballs? Meaning, it's cheating but everyone's going to ignore it?

It’s not cheating. I’d say it’s bush league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is forming an all-star team for WSYL like deflating footballs? Meaning, it's cheating but everyone's going to ignore it?

Have you reached out to WSYL. Have you asked your club director? If it bothers you so much, reach out to WSYL there is an email to address your concerns. Maybe they'll get back to you if Aloha Tournaments isn't too busy transferring money into their accounts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is forming an all-star team for WSYL like deflating footballs? Meaning, it's cheating but everyone's going to ignore it?

Have you reached out to WSYL. Have you asked your club director? If it bothers you so much, reach out to WSYL there is an email to address your concerns. Maybe they'll get back to you if Aloha Tournaments isn't too busy transferring money into their accounts. Look up their revenues, youth lacrosse is BIG business.

I sent a message to the WSYL Facebook page about the super-teams - no response......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I sent a message to the WSYL Facebook page about the super-teams - no response......

There's your answer. Your club director doesn't care, the tournament owner doesn't care, does anyone else really care?

After reading this I dont even care. If you dont like it then dont go. Period

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I sent a message to the WSYL Facebook page about the super-teams - no response......

Read the rules.....do you think orgs are that clueless that you being the brain surgeon is going to blow up their plans? Oh no, the donk on BOTC tried telling on us because we have a team coming together.......

“At a minimum, players must compete with their team/program for at least two events (outside of a WSYL event), which can consist of tournaments and/or seasonal leagues. These events do not need to precede the qualifier but must precede the Championship event. “

The BlackOps website says they are playing a spring tournament. No one replied to you because they cant entertain every donk that cant read and has an axe to grind..

For whats its worth, I think its wrong what they are doing but its with in the rules.....you should get a petition together mom!

Its the last year of this weak shindig anyway. Spend your money, voice your complaints on BOC, go get COVID & a t shirt and then come home.

This year will be the end of this BS tourney. Schedules favor a few Big name organizations. The integrity of wsyl is totally gone. RIP wsyl- bye bye

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This year will be the end of this BS tourney. Schedules favor a few Big name organizations. The integrity of wsyl is totally gone. RIP wsyl- bye bye

With this fiasco on its last legs, the question is, what is the tournament that really determines who the best club teams are? If you want all on age is it Adrenaline Platinum Cup? If it is grade based is NLF the top crown to seek? NAL? Yes, a teams performance across the season is the right barometer but what is the one title you want to end the summer with?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage. 91 is a disaster. Destroyed by sweet lax FL and it was even worse than the score. Team totally quit. Good think the donks was home on his couch and didn’t have to watch. Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend.

He's flashy and arrogant but not a difference-maker. 91 will rally on their own.

Classless move, bashing a specific child, hiding behind an anonymous forum tag. Moderator please take down this vile post

Calling someone flashy and arrogant is by far not a vile post.

Specifically calling out someone else 13/14 year old child is vile and cowardly. You want to comment on a professional or college athlete fine. Would you be ok with someone walking over to you on the sideline and being critical of your child? Than why is it ok to do it here hiding behind a keyboard.

Take a deep breath snowflake. The OP said "Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend". The reply said "He's flashy and arrogant but not a difference-maker. 91 will rally on their own." How is that even close to "vile"?

No one called the kid a name, said he was bad, terrible or anything like that. He acts like he is better than he is. That is what "flashy and arrogant" means. If youve seen him play, and you're not his mom or dad, you'd know its true. He doesn't make any more saves than the next good goalie. Bottom line, he isn't changing the outcome of a game. "Not a difference maker." He's good, that's it. 91 wouldn't have a bad goalie, duh.

You mean what the kids want to end with

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I sent a message to the WSYL Facebook page about the super-teams - no response......

There's your answer. Your club director doesn't care, the tournament owner doesn't care, does anyone else really care?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I sent a message to the WSYL Facebook page about the super-teams - no response......

I did as well. They got right back to me. Said to bring tissues

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its the last year of this weak shindig anyway. Spend your money, voice your complaints on BOC, go get COVID & a t shirt and then come home.

I just hope we all get discount on body by jake products

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its the last year of this weak shindig anyway. Spend your money, voice your complaints on BOC, go get COVID & a t shirt and then come home.

I just hope we all get discount on body by jake products

Every family will get a goody bag filled with the now defunct MLL promotional items, vintage Body by Jake VHS workout videos and a free email subscription to every event that Aloha Tournaments host. What's better than that?

The memories of living vicariously through your kid ? That's gotta be worth $omething. Covid by Jake....... Enjoy!

WSYL Schedules: Who got screwed/ Who got the cake walks

4 of 7 Advance
CoachC: S2S, CT Wolves, Legacy
S2S: CoachC, Legacy, CT Wolves
CT Wolves: Express North, CoachC, S2S
Legacy: Regulators, S2S, CoachC, Igloo
Express North: CT Wolves, Igloo, Regulators
Regulators: Legacy, Igloo, Express North
Igloo: Express North, Regulators, Legacy

4 of 8 Advance
Team 91: Predators, Orange Crush, Team 91 Tristate
Predators: Team 91, Team 91 Tristate, Orange Crush
Orange Crush: Team 91 Tristate, Team 91, Predators
Team 91 Tristate: Orange Crush, Predators, Team 91
Primetime: Rebels, Grand Island, Eclipse
Rebels: Primetime, Eclipse, Grand Island
Grand Island: Eclipse, Primetime, Rebels
Eclipse: Grand Island, Rebels, Primetime

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WSYL Schedules: Who got screwed/ Who got the cake walks

4 of 7 Advance
CoachC: S2S, CT Wolves, Legacy
S2S: CoachC, Legacy, CT Wolves
CT Wolves: Express North, CoachC, S2S
Legacy: Regulators, S2S, CoachC, Igloo
Express North: CT Wolves, Igloo, Regulators
Regulators: Legacy, Igloo, Express North
Igloo: Express North, Regulators, Legacy

4 of 8 Advance
Team 91: Predators, Orange Crush, Team 91 Tristate
Predators: Team 91, Team 91 Tristate, Orange Crush
Orange Crush: Team 91 Tristate, Team 91, Predators
Team 91 Tristate: Orange Crush, Predators, Team 91
Primetime: Rebels, Grand Island, Eclipse
Rebels: Primetime, Eclipse, Grand Island
Grand Island: Eclipse, Primetime, Rebels
Eclipse: Grand Island, Rebels, Primetime

Nobody. If its close they will take more than 8

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage. 91 is a disaster. Destroyed by sweet lax FL and it was even worse than the score. Team totally quit. Good think the donks was home on his couch and didn’t have to watch. Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend.

He's flashy and arrogant but not a difference-maker. 91 will rally on their own.

Classless move, bashing a specific child, hiding behind an anonymous forum tag. Moderator please take down this vile post

Calling someone flashy and arrogant is by far not a vile post.

Specifically calling out someone else 13/14 year old child is vile and cowardly. You want to comment on a professional or college athlete fine. Would you be ok with someone walking over to you on the sideline and being critical of your child? Than why is it ok to do it here hiding behind a keyboard.

100%. Classless and ignorant.

Everyone will get their answers this weekend at the big event. Cant wait....Not!

Get ready for the weather this weekend in Delaware. Beautiful on Saturday, thunderstorms on Sunday.

Tons of D1 coaches will be in attendance this weekend in Delaware. Keep the red cups to a minimum, they are watching

This board will be a mess on Monday after the big tourney... "They had holdbacks" "They had a better schedule" "Those refs didnt like us" At least we will see who beat whom regardless and all the lax sheep will have fulfilled their lifelong dream... Baaaaah! Baaaaah! SpoilerAlert: Any team that wants to play in July will be able to. Some regions are sending only 2 teams....

I'm pretty sure there can't be hold back excuses since they are actually checking birth certificates for WSYL - unless we are having birther controversy. Top excuses will be:

Refs (always)
Superteams
Schedules and Pairings
Coaches (not 'my' coach)
Parents (not the ones on 'my' team)
Covid

I'm excited for the boys. I know they have worked hard and are looking forward to competitive play. Let's make a great, safe and fun experience for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You mean what the kids want to end with

Absolutely not, I meant the lunatics on here. Who cares what the kids want. The kids do want WSYL which is the great part of all this. The dads cant handle that cause its not what they want.

Just happy to be on NJ Tpke pre summer.

Construction on Belt and Verranzano

Can’t wait for summer

How in the world did Igloo get that schedule? And an 11am start?

This whole way qualifier is a joke ....go look at the "championship bracket " aka the teams that advance to the world series and there are teams with losing records going hahaha....people have been saying the wsyl is a joke and they are correct

Stop complaining it’s sat night. Go have a drink with your wife or a friend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How in the world did Igloo get that schedule? And an 11am start?

#1 seed!!! Igloo 14U world champs!

The complaining is exhausting. There's a million tournaments, just don't come if this one is that bad

Not impressed at all

AA paid the Aloha organizers for the times.!!!!!
Holy stunad!!
60 teams over 2 age brackets and 2 regions and Igloo got a handout. Enjoy ride home and back to DE Turf next week

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop complaining it’s sat night. Go have a drink with your wife or a friend.

Unfortunately his wife is drinking with his friends.

How many from north qualify

Get your popcorn ready. lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

AA paid the Aloha organizers for the times.!!!!!
Holy stunad!!
60 teams over 2 age brackets and 2 regions and Igloo got a handout. Enjoy ride home and back to DE Turf next week

What?

So when you make it to the championship bracket like regulators and 91 tristate and can’t compete do you still make the wsyl? Not sure the selection process

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So when you make it to the championship bracket like regulators and 91 tristate and can’t compete do you still make the wsyl? Not sure the selection process

Yes. They need as many as will pay the fee from this and the East qualifier. South and west have very low numbers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage. 91 is a disaster. Destroyed by sweet lax FL and it was even worse than the score. Team totally quit. Good think the donks was home on his couch and didn’t have to watch. Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend.

He's flashy and arrogant but not a difference-maker. 91 will rally on their own.

Classless move, bashing a specific child, hiding behind an anonymous forum tag. Moderator please take down this vile post

Calling someone flashy and arrogant is by far not a vile post.

Specifically calling out someone else 13/14 year old child is vile and cowardly. You want to comment on a professional or college athlete fine. Would you be ok with someone walking over to you on the sideline and being critical of your child? Than why is it ok to do it here hiding behind a keyboard.

100%. Classless and ignorant.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Holy garbage. 91 is a disaster. Destroyed by sweet lax FL and it was even worse than the score. Team totally quit. Good think the donks was home on his couch and didn’t have to watch. Hopefully the pack goalie can make a difference next weekend.

He's flashy and arrogant but not a difference-maker. 91 will rally on their own.

Classless move, bashing a specific child, hiding behind an anonymous forum tag. Moderator please take down this vile post

Calling someone flashy and arrogant is by far not a vile post.

Specifically calling out someone else 13/14 year old child is vile and cowardly. You want to comment on a professional or college athlete fine. Would you be ok with someone walking over to you on the sideline and being critical of your child? Than why is it ok to do it here hiding behind a keyboard.

100%. Classless and ignorant.

The pack goalie made the difference, great job boys!

Should be called the World Scam Of Youth Lacrosse. Scheduling was absolutely Joke. Had to hook up certain organizations. Need to start a new tourney to replace this garbage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be called the World Scam Of Youth Lacrosse. Scheduling was absolutely Joke. Had to hook up certain organizations. Need to start a new tourney to replace this garbage.

Blaming the results on scheduling is an absolute joke. Poster should get a life and be ashamed of themselves. Beat the teams u play

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should be called the World Scam Of Youth Lacrosse. Scheduling was absolutely Joke. Had to hook up certain organizations. Need to start a new tourney to replace this garbage.

Please elaborate? Are you talking about Igloo's schedule?

Would love to hear from the stunad who said the pack goalie was overrated. He is top 5 in 2024. Clearly he had an impact today.
In addition he is a quiet kid so not sure why this fool tried to attack him. Enjoy the loss DB. If you had any stones you would type out an apology

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would love to hear from the stunad who said the pack goalie was overrated. He is top 5 in 2024. Clearly he had an impact today.
In addition he is a quiet kid so not sure why this fool tried to attack him. Enjoy the loss DB. If you had any stones you would type out an apology

How Bout the rest of the pack players that were brought with him . All of a sudden 3-5 6 footers on the team ? Lol . And before it's even said I understand that birth certificates are used to register but there is also not one person checking Anyone in at tht facility . No one checking in teams or players , you could bring in college players and no one would question you ..what a joke . Total scam

How many Rush kids on 91?

Seriously, no surprises this weekend. Nobody is beating the top 2 teams, it's them and everyone else. See you in DC

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would love to hear from the stunad who said the pack goalie was overrated. He is top 5 in 2024. Clearly he had an impact today.
In addition he is a quiet kid so not sure why this fool tried to attack him. Enjoy the loss DB. If you had any stones you would type out an apology

How Bout the rest of the pack players that were brought with him . All of a sudden 3-5 6 footers on the team? Lol . And before it's even said I understand that birth certificates are used to register but there is also not one person checking Anyone in at that facility. No one checking in teams or players , you could bring in college players and no one would question you ..what a joke . Total scam

You are a lonely man. You're saying 91 cares so much about winning this title for the 3rd year in a row that they are bringing ineligible players regardless of the proof required? That's an amazing leap but whatever lets you sleep at night. I feel for your son. I get the whole hold-back convo and that annoyance but you have reached a new low......and whoever said the WP goalie is quiet has never seen him play or on the sidelines. Great kid. Great goalie. Def not quiet. For those of you finding excuses, your team just wasn’t good enough. Nothing wrong with that. Adjust your expectations and let Johnnie play. For the guy who thinks that teams are using fake birth certificates and bringing in extra players under the cover of darkness, grow up. You stink and your kid is probably even worse. Must detest it when the other kids try to take the ball from him. After all, it isn't fair, they didn't let him try something. No trophy for you!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seriously, no surprises this weekend. Nobody is beating the top 2 teams, it's them and everyone else. See you in DC

Same old story. CoachC wins again, everyone complains, not fair, cheating, not on age, holdbacks. Clearly LIE doing something right. Every program is chasing them, get over it.

Igloo schedule was pretty embarassing. Now the question is do you want to go to DC and be everyone's punching bag? Because you aint playin the PAL teams you did over the weekend. Then again, maybe they will as they need about a dozen from the North to fill out their lousy tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo schedule was pretty embarassing. Now the question is do you want to go to DC and be everyone's punching bag? Because you aint playin the PAL teams you did over the weekend. Then again, maybe they will as they need about a dozen from the North to fill out their lousy tournament.

Of course they'll go, as will about 9 other teams with directors telling the parents the kids "earned it" and they deserve to go. This tourney has turned into a joke and that is coming from someone whose tam went undefeated. I wish we were playing meaningful games elsewhere against teams we don't see every weekend. I guess truth is where else we playing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo schedule was pretty embarassing. Now the question is do you want to go to DC and be everyone's punching bag? Because you aint playin the PAL teams you did over the weekend. Then again, maybe they will as they need about a dozen from the North to fill out their lousy tournament.

Stop with the Igloo talk. They had a nice team a bunch of years ago. They've had CoachC envy ever since. Not a terrible program, but they are certainly not in the same league as LIE and 91, never will be.

If a team is using age eligible players it’s an issue...Really? IMHO nothing wrong with putting your team in the best position to win. Not kinda stinks for the kids that are part of the team to be moved down the bench, I get that, but maybe consider taking your kid out of that situation. Let him go be a starter on another team. It will make tourneys more enjoyable for your son and you, and so what he is not on the super elite AA team, but it’s a solid team with good coaches. Practice the best players I know is the counter argument, but nothing develops a player more than confidence on the field.

Still really bad look for tourney organizers. They played 2 of the 3 worst teams, minus the shiny Red helmets. Igloo Didnt play one real program Day 1. Even the brackets were lopsided. But if thats a "win" then so be it. It just goes to show the whole thing is a joke and anyone that says different has their head in the sand. Good for the kids but it should be taken at face value only.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would love to hear from the stunad who said the pack goalie was overrated. He is top 5 in 2024. Clearly he had an impact today.
In addition he is a quiet kid so not sure why this fool tried to attack him. Enjoy the loss DB. If you had any stones you would type out an apology

How Bout the rest of the pack players that were brought with him . All of a sudden 3-5 6 footers on the team? Lol . And before it's even said I understand that birth certificates are used to register but there is also not one person checking Anyone in at that facility. No one checking in teams or players , you could bring in college players and no one would question you ..what a joke . Total scam

You are a lonely man. You're saying 91 cares so much about winning this title for the 3rd year in a row that they are bringing ineligible players regardless of the proof required? That's an amazing leap but whatever lets you sleep at night. I feel for your son. I get the whole hold-back convo and that annoyance but you have reached a new low......and whoever said the WP goalie is quiet has never seen him play or on the sidelines. Great kid. Great goalie. Def not quiet. For those of you finding excuses, your team just wasn’t good enough. Nothing wrong with that. Adjust your expectations and let Johnnie play. For the guy who thinks that teams are using fake birth certificates and bringing in extra players under the cover of darkness, grow up. You stink and your kid is probably even worse. Must detest it when the other kids try to take the ball from him. After all, it isn't fair, they didn't let him try something. No trophy for you!

What was said was there is no one checking in at the facility , so you could walk right onto a field there and be 2 years older and nobody is checking . And 91 did just that with their 2025 team . That team was brutal in the fall and all of a sudden 3 tremendous players pop up for the tournament. Lol. And I couldn't care less about the wsyl,you clearly do spewing years of history .cheaters gonna cheat that's just the way it is and then the wsyl directors wonder why it's dying and nobody cares about it . It's because it's poorly run with cheatera running rampant . Register with the correct names /birth certificates then bring other players and nobody checks. That's the way to do it hooray for your plaque

Other than 91 , were there any other teams that were impressive? It seemed to be 91, CoachC, then the mid level teams and finally the bottom level of teams that were just sparing partners...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still really bad look for tourney organizers. They played 2 of the 3 worst teams, minus the shiny Red helmets. Igloo Didnt play one real program Day 1. Even the brackets were lopsided. But if thats a "win" then so be it. It just goes to show the whole thing is a joke and anyone that says different has their head in the sand. Good for the kids but it should be taken at face value only.

Come on down to DC. Give up your family 4th of July weekend to stay at our luxurious tournament sponsored hotel just minutes from the fields. You'll get a beautiful new uniform, media guide all the false hope we can provide. Did I mention you are all playing for third place? and btw most of you will never be heard from again as far lacrosse goes, but hey, it's all about the experience right.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Seriously, no surprises this weekend. Nobody is beating the top 2 teams, it's them and everyone else. See you in DC

Same old story. CoachC wins again, everyone complains, not fair, cheating, not on age, holdbacks. Clearly LIE doing something right. Every program is chasing them, get over it.

I love this one! 52-10 - six games of dominance!!!

By Team 91!

CoachC too small!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would love to hear from the stunad who said the pack goalie was overrated. He is top 5 in 2024. Clearly he had an impact today.
In addition he is a quiet kid so not sure why this fool tried to attack him. Enjoy the loss DB. If you had any stones you would type out an apology

How Bout the rest of the pack players that were brought with him . All of a sudden 3-5 6 footers on the team? Lol . And before it's even said I understand that birth certificates are used to register but there is also not one person checking Anyone in at that facility. No one checking in teams or players , you could bring in college players and no one would question you ..what a joke . Total scam

You are a lonely man. You're saying 91 cares so much about winning this title for the 3rd year in a row that they are bringing ineligible players regardless of the proof required? That's an amazing leap but whatever lets you sleep at night. I feel for your son. I get the whole hold-back convo and that annoyance but you have reached a new low......and whoever said the WP goalie is quiet has never seen him play or on the sidelines. Great kid. Great goalie. Def not quiet. For those of you finding excuses, your team just wasn’t good enough. Nothing wrong with that. Adjust your expectations and let Johnnie play. For the guy who thinks that teams are using fake birth certificates and bringing in extra players under the cover of darkness, grow up. You stink and your kid is probably even worse. Must detest it when the other kids try to take the ball from him. After all, it isn't fair, they didn't let him try something. No trophy for you!

What was said was there is no one checking in at the facility , so you could walk right onto a field there and be 2 years older and nobody is checking . And 91 did just that with their 2025 team . That team was brutal in the fall and all of a sudden 3 tremendous players pop up for the tournament. Lol. And I couldn't care less about the wsyl,you clearly do spewing years of history .cheaters gonna cheat that's just the way it is and then the wsyl directors wonder why it's dying and nobody cares about it . It's because it's poorly run with cheatera running rampant . Register with the correct names /birth certificates then bring other players and nobody checks. That's the way to do it hooray for your plaque

it’s the same kids with some quality newcomers .... they played great and as a team. Some of the best performances were from smaller, tougher boys and a defense that has been mostly the same for years.

Please just shut up and say congratulations!

And you think Canny would take that beating and not say anything if 91 was cheating? Never! Plus not even the biggest kid is more that 6 feet. And it’s called puberty, you know, like when you get hair under your arms, and you start to need the manscaper...maybe you missed that,

EAST (not North) were BIG boys!

Good for the deserving teams, good for the parents of those programs. But do the other teams and parents feel their kid's club is good enough to compete with teams outside of LI, vs clubs that will punish 91 & Exp as well? Some teams that played shouldnt have been there and it was evident. They wasted their money. But that is probably what the parents wanted. And dont tell me about the experience. Driving 5 hrs to be eliminated in 2 hrs and play "consolation games" in a rain storm the next day? Doesnt sound like an enticing experience to me. Should have spent that $ getting your kid's more even competition locally.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Would love to hear from the stunad who said the pack goalie was overrated. He is top 5 in 2024. Clearly he had an impact today.
In addition he is a quiet kid so not sure why this fool tried to attack him. Enjoy the loss DB. If you had any stones you would type out an apology

How Bout the rest of the pack players that were brought with him . All of a sudden 3-5 6 footers on the team? Lol . And before it's even said I understand that birth certificates are used to register but there is also not one person checking Anyone in at that facility. No one checking in teams or players , you could bring in college players and no one would question you ..what a joke . Total scam

You are a lonely man. You're saying 91 cares so much about winning this title for the 3rd year in a row that they are bringing ineligible players regardless of the proof required? That's an amazing leap but whatever lets you sleep at night. I feel for your son. I get the whole hold-back convo and that annoyance but you have reached a new low......and whoever said the WP goalie is quiet has never seen him play or on the sidelines. Great kid. Great goalie. Def not quiet. For those of you finding excuses, your team just wasn’t good enough. Nothing wrong with that. Adjust your expectations and let Johnnie play. For the guy who thinks that teams are using fake birth certificates and bringing in extra players under the cover of darkness, grow up. You stink and your kid is probably even worse. Must detest it when the other kids try to take the ball from him. After all, it isn't fair, they didn't let him try something. No trophy for you!

What was said was there is no one checking in at the facility , so you could walk right onto a field there and be 2 years older and nobody is checking . And 91 did just that with their 2025 team . That team was brutal in the fall and all of a sudden 3 tremendous players pop up for the tournament. Lol. And I couldn't care less about the wsyl,you clearly do spewing years of history .cheaters gonna cheat that's just the way it is and then the wsyl directors wonder why it's dying and nobody cares about it . It's because it's poorly run with cheatera running rampant . Register with the correct names /birth certificates then bring other players and nobody checks. That's the way to do it hooray for your plaque

So you think a bunch of HS sophomores spent their weekend in DE pretending to be 8th graders? Please take off the tin-foil hat and rejoin us in the reality-based community. All the 91 players were age-eligible. They have practiced hard and their hard work showed this weekend.

If grand island had 91 schedule or was in other bracket they would of made playoffs. That’s how much it shows that’s it’s a huge scam. Taking nothing away from 91 they were best team, but they had kids from other teams. If tourney let’s you it’s all legal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good for the deserving teams, good for the parents of those programs. But do the other teams and parents feel their kid's club is good enough to compete with teams outside of LI, vs clubs that will punish 91 & Exp as well? Some teams that played shouldnt have been there and it was evident. They wasted their money. But that is probably what the parents wanted. And dont tell me about the experience. Driving 5 hrs to be eliminated in 2 hrs and play "consolation games" in a rain storm the next day? Doesnt sound like an enticing experience to me. Should have spent that $ getting your kid's more even competition locally.

There seems to be a huge gap now in tournaments. B and C teams play in tournaments they have no chance of winning or even being competitive in. Used to be plenty of reasonable tournaments, clubs and talent to go around. Now the top programs take 30 or more kids and tournaments are mega events. None of this is good for the development of young athletes, but hey what do I know. Everyone else seems willing to pay, travel and chase the top programs in hope of one day making it.

GI was one of the worst there. There were a few really bad clubs. There were about 6 teams that were exceptionally bad that ended up beating on each other during a meaningless day 2.. Bottom line: Any of the lower echelon teams could have had "easier" schedule but it dont matter becasue they cant beat the better teams like 91, Exp, etc, etc

Not even close that the biggest cake walk was CoachC. S2S, CT Wolves and Legacy are B+ teams at best. Express and 91 are going to get the easiest path every time but those programs have kind of earned that right at this point.

Was a coach there this weekend. No one from world series checked our roster, no one from world series even looking at our games. Just a nice money grab, there is no integrity at this event anymore what a shame. The selection process is insanely flawed. They need a tri-state format for seeding, bc some of these cake walks just hurts a lot of these other clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good for the deserving teams, good for the parents of those programs. But do the other teams and parents feel their kid's club is good enough to compete with teams outside of LI, vs clubs that will punish 91 & Exp as well? Some teams that played shouldnt have been there and it was evident. They wasted their money. But that is probably what the parents wanted. And dont tell me about the experience. Driving 5 hrs to be eliminated in 2 hrs and play "consolation games" in a rain storm the next day? Doesnt sound like an enticing experience to me. Should have spent that $ getting your kid's more even competition locally.

There seems to be a huge gap now in tournaments. B and C teams play in tournaments they have no chance of winning or even being competitive in. Used to be plenty of reasonable tournaments, clubs and talent to go around. Now the top programs take 30 or more kids and tournaments are mega events. None of this is good for the development of young athletes, but hey what do I know. Everyone else seems willing to pay, travel and chase the top programs in hope of one day making it.

I honestly believe people don’t what the right answer is until they go through the whole process and do a look back. For now it’s use my checkbook and influence to get my kid on a the best team. Not get my kid on the team that he can be the best on. Will those teams every beat a 91, Express, Hawks etc..not likely. But isn’t that okay? I really, really enjoy one thing about youth sports, watching my son play and him and his team succeeding. Sorry I measure success that way, but what other way is there? If you had a son play no meaningful minutes this weekend, you probably want to evaluate and ask is this every going to change?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GI was one of the worst there. There were a few really bad clubs. There were about 6 teams that were exceptionally bad that ended up beating on each other during a meaningless day 2.. Bottom line: Any of the lower echelon teams could have had "easier" schedule but it don't matter because they can't beat the better teams like 91, Exp, etc, etc

GI was actually surprisingly a very gritty team. Took 1 or 2 goal losses to Eclipse, Primetime, Rebels. Then Beat up on Legacy and Shore 2 Shore. Like if they are in that top bracket would have an easy path to championship bracket.

Why do you think igloo isn't part of the NLF anymore ? Becauae they called out 91 for cheating and the NLF mafia said " wait a minute buddy we all do that so now you're out of the NLF mafia ".

No one checks a darn thing and they all know it and have been doing it for years.....there are definitely older kids on the wsyl teams and 91 is always the biggest offender and it's the worst kept secret in youth lacrosse

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was a coach there this weekend. No one from world series checked our roster, no one from world series even looking at our games. Just a nice money grab, there is no integrity at this event anymore what a shame. The selection process is insanely flawed. They need a tri-state format for seeding, bc some of these cake walks just hurts a lot of these other clubs.

So your sons team didn’t win?

They seed the teams like the NCAA. So Express had it easy the first day and so did 91. Too bad if you don’t like it. Tell your story to UVA in 2018.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do you think igloo isn't part of the NLF anymore ? Becauae they called out 91 for cheating and the NLF mafia said " wait a minute buddy we all do that so now you're out of the NLF mafia ".

No one checks a darn thing and they all know it and have been doing it for years.....there are definitely older kids on the wsyl teams and 91 is always the biggest offender and it's the worst kept secret in youth lacrosse

This is simply not true. All the kids on 91 are age-eligible.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GI was one of the worst there. There were a few really bad clubs. There were about 6 teams that were exceptionally bad that ended up beating on each other during a meaningless day 2.. Bottom line: Any of the lower echelon teams could have had "easier" schedule but it don't matter because they can't beat the better teams like 91, Exp, etc, etc

GI was actually surprisingly a very gritty team. Took 1 or 2 goal losses to Eclipse, Primetime, Rebels. Then Beat up on Legacy and Shore 2 Shore. Like if they are in that top bracket would have an easy path to championship bracket.

Rebels, Legacy and Shore 2 Shore had no business being there, regardless of what their records wound up being. No meaningful wins and clearly miles behind the top tier teams. They are not doing their brand any favors by getting in tournaments over their head.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do you think igloo isn't part of the NLF anymore ? Becauae they called out 91 for cheating and the NLF mafia said " wait a minute buddy we all do that so now you're out of the NLF mafia ".

No one checks a darn thing and they all know it and have been doing it for years.....there are definitely older kids on the wsyl teams and 91 is always the biggest offender and it's the worst kept secret in youth lacrosse

Ok, Thanks Igloo director. Go heal after the 91 beat down. Hope to see you in DC, but whats the point?

There were easier schedules but does it matter? You want a weaker bracket in order to advance, only to get schooled by superior teams? Look at Igloo...Played the bottom of the barrel Day 1 and then got beat up by 91 when it mattered. The 3 teams mentioned above clearly were not ready. They should have stayed home and had a 3 way "Playdate" Cheaper, closer and more balanced competition. Body by Jake thanks them all for their contributions. See you next year!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do you think igloo isn't part of the NLF anymore ? Becauae they called out 91 for cheating and the NLF mafia said " wait a minute buddy we all do that so now you're out of the NLF mafia ".

No one checks a darn thing and they all know it and have been doing it for years.....there are definitely older kids on the wsyl teams and 91 is always the biggest offender and it's the worst kept secret in youth lacrosse

This is simply not true. All the kids on 91 are age-eligible.

What about the kid who lives in Texas that played? Maybe he got a PO Box in Shirley

Oh stop...The kid "in Tx" has been playing with them since he was in 3rd grade" FACT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Was a coach there this weekend. No one from world series checked our roster, no one from world series even looking at our games. Just a nice money grab, there is no integrity at this event anymore what a shame. The selection process is insanely flawed. They need a tri-state format for seeding, bc some of these cake walks just hurts a lot of these other clubs.

I agree with this one hundred percent. There’s nobody checking anything. Yeah you have to submit a copy of a birth certificate but once you get to the event no one checks a thing. With most clubs using this event as a main sell to recruit kids, I could easily see them scamming the system. For an event that had such hype I have to say it was nothing special. It actually seemed worse run than a lot of tourneys on Long Island I’ve been too

Not checking anything? Cmon bro.... they were checking the below:

-checking that all of your checks cleared!
-checking their bank accounts.
-checking that the parking meters were full
-checking the swag sales

and most importantly,

-checking that the sheep will all be doing it again in July..Baaaah! Baaaah! Baaaah!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Good for the deserving teams, good for the parents of those programs. But do the other teams and parents feel their kid's club is good enough to compete with teams outside of LI, vs clubs that will punish 91 & Exp as well? Some teams that played shouldnt have been there and it was evident. They wasted their money. But that is probably what the parents wanted. And dont tell me about the experience. Driving 5 hrs to be eliminated in 2 hrs and play "consolation games" in a rain storm the next day? Doesnt sound like an enticing experience to me. Should have spent that $ getting your kid's more even competition locally.

My son is on a team that had no chance and he wanted nothing more than to go and have the experience. To some extent its the only time he and his buddies get to see the big bad boys from LI. He had fun and thought it was a cool event. Glad we dont have to go to Denver though. Really dont get why this isnt an east coast event in Philadelphia around the same time as the NCAA finals but thats me.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There were easier schedules but does it matter? You want a weaker bracket in order to advance, only to get schooled by superior teams? Look at Igloo...Played the bottom of the barrel Day 1 and then got beat up by 91 when it mattered. The 3 teams mentioned above clearly were not ready. They should have stayed home and had a 3 way "Playdate" Cheaper, closer and more balanced competition. Body by Jake thanks them all for their contributions. See you next year!

91, Choppers and Igloo all played weak day 1 schedules because the tournament was weak overall. Too many teams that should not have been there entered and paid the price twice, $ and embarrassment.

Igloo played 91 closer than Choppers and they’ve been running with 91 and Choppers all season. Let’s hear the excuses why they had a closer score then Choppers as I’m sure there are plenty. At the end of the day the best teams rise to the top regardless of schedule.

Right .....keep bringing in the pack players while nobody watches or checks anything . My dog has a higher IQ than all of the 91 dad's combined .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There were easier schedules but does it matter? You want a weaker bracket in order to advance, only to get schooled by superior teams? Look at Igloo...Played the bottom of the barrel Day 1 and then got beat up by 91 when it mattered. The 3 teams mentioned above clearly were not ready. They should have stayed home and had a 3 way "Playdate" Cheaper, closer and more balanced competition. Body by Jake thanks them all for their contributions. See you next year!

91, Choppers and Igloo all played weak day 1 schedules because the tournament was weak overall. Too many teams that should not have been there entered and paid the price twice, $ and embarrassment.

Igloo played 91 closer than Choppers and they’ve been running with 91 and Choppers all season. Let’s hear the excuses why they had a closer score then Choppers as I’m sure there are plenty. At the end of the day the best teams rise to the top regardless of schedule.

91 shut it down and now Igloo has a glimmer of hope. Might as well have played the 4 corners. Outclassed!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do you think igloo isn't part of the NLF anymore ? Becauae they called out 91 for cheating and the NLF mafia said " wait a minute buddy we all do that so now you're out of the NLF mafia ".

No one checks a darn thing and they all know it and have been doing it for years.....there are definitely older kids on the wsyl teams and 91 is always the biggest offender and it's the worst kept secret in youth lacrosse

This is simply not true. All the kids on 91 are age-eligible.

What about the kid who lives in Texas that played? Maybe he got a PO Box in Shirley

Call Jake and complain! TX kid was as good as they come and was on the roster last year when it was cancelled. No one was hiding it and it’s been approved. So stop your crying and just say great work 91! You want to complain about big boys? Wait until you see the all star teams from the East.

You better get right out to the practice field, your boys need to work on their offense. If they had played LiE, they wouldn’t have been as nice. Chanster would have run up the score.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop...The kid "in Tx" has been playing with them since he was in 3rd grade" FACT

So has the goalie who got replaced by the Wolfpack kid. Nice...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh stop...The kid "in Tx" has been playing with them since he was in 3rd grade" FACT

So has the goalie who got replaced by the Wolfpack kid. Nice...

The "Tx" kid only recently moved to Texas. He is an LI kid, born and raised. The Wolfpack kid isn't replacing anyone - the goalie position has been open for going on two years and the WSYL rules require two goalies.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why do you think igloo isn't part of the NLF anymore ? Becauae they called out 91 for cheating and the NLF mafia said " wait a minute buddy we all do that so now you're out of the NLF mafia ".

No one checks a darn thing and they all know it and have been doing it for years.....there are definitely older kids on the wsyl teams and 91 is always the biggest offender and it's the worst kept secret in youth lacrosse

This is simply not true. All the kids on 91 are age-eligible.

What about the kid who lives in Texas that played? Maybe he got a PO Box in Shirley

Call Jake and complain! TX kid was as good as they come and was on the roster last year when it was cancelled. No one was hiding it and it’s been approved. So stop your crying and just say great work 91! You want to complain about big boys? Wait until you see the all star teams from the East.

You better get right out to the practice field, your boys need to work on their offense. If they had played LiE, they wouldn’t have been as nice. Chanster would have run up the score.

Igloo doing what they do best. Complaining! What has this 2025 group ever won? It took another program folding for you to acquire your only offensive weapon. Igloo is where players go to be average. Other than your Black Ice team, what success can you point to. We are consistently the top program year after year. You claim being the anti travel program, when in fact you're a bigger fraud than the two dominant programs you desperately chase. Why is it that Igloo parents somehow think they're "above it all". At least our clubs hold the kids accountable for their play and playing time. Daddy ball still king at Igloo, just a little more subtle.

The most amusing part of this is that now Igloo knows they have no shot. Will they even show up?

My bet is AA takes them out of the event. Maybe he will be the smart one of the bunch. They’ll quit, no question about it.

could we just leave igloo and 91 alone. give credit where credit is due. these teams take a beating on this site and they deserve their time in the sun. no one thought 91 would do as well as they did. i say good for them and continue to surprise people

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The most amusing part of this is that now Igloo knows they have no shot. Will they even show up?

My bet is AA takes them out of the event. Maybe he will be the smart one of the bunch. They’ll quit, no question about it.

Why would they go? There is no enforcement of the so called rules, it's a made up Championship event, it wasn't even supposed to be for u14, more out of pocket expenses to sit in the sweltering heat in DC of all places. No thanks. The smart move is NOT to go. Maybe a relaxing tournament upstate or CT or end the season on time like normal people, go on a real vacation. Some of these clubs have their kids playing into late July and already have tryouts scheduled. Enough already.

The director should decline but it is supposedly a good recruiting hammerhead. And could you imagine the reaction of some of the screwball parents? But the prior guy is right: Make no mistake about it, Forcegloo will quit. Always have. Shut down that 1 kid and their Offense is non existent. I cant believe the PAL teams they just played didnt figure that out. The world needs Crash test dummies tho and so do these tournaments. Good luck!

WHO CARES

Some dudes on here have some serious issues!!

LAX IS LIFE!

Lol. Your just realizing that now.

Hoping this board goes quiet now that the WSYL Pecking order has been established. After tis weekend there should be no debates about who the best LI team is, who is just behind them, who the middle of the road teams are and which clubs have a ways to go. In the end, teams from the East will have their way with the teams from the North.

Who are top teams in east?

I wish all the teams luck and here is a big tip for all you Tee shirt chasing parents . This all means absolutely nothing ask any freshman in college if the remember scores on travel teams the answer is no . Just focus on your son enjoying the game and getting better and if he is able to play in college then you are blessed.... Let that set in

"In the hope of one day making it." Making what, exactly? Your son went pro after this weekend and got a paycheck? He got a full ride to Yale? Oh I forgot, neither of those exist. You paid the same amount I did and you got a couple more wins. BFD.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GI was one of the worst there. There were a few really bad clubs. There were about 6 teams that were exceptionally bad that ended up beating on each other during a meaningless day 2.. Bottom line: Any of the lower echelon teams could have had "easier" schedule but it don't matter because they can't beat the better teams like 91, Exp, etc, etc

GI was actually surprisingly a very gritty team. Took 1 or 2 goal losses to Eclipse, Primetime, Rebels. Then Beat up on Legacy and Shore 2 Shore. Like if they are in that top bracket would have an easy path to championship bracket.

Rebels, Legacy and Shore 2 Shore had no business being there, regardless of what their records wound up being. No meaningful wins and clearly miles behind the top tier teams. They are not doing their brand any favors by getting in tournaments over their head.

Someone needs a hug

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GI was one of the worst there. There were a few really bad clubs. There were about 6 teams that were exceptionally bad that ended up beating on each other during a meaningless day 2.. Bottom line: Any of the lower echelon teams could have had "easier" schedule but it don't matter because they can't beat the better teams like 91, Exp, etc, etc

GI was actually surprisingly a very gritty team. Took 1 or 2 goal losses to Eclipse, Primetime, Rebels. Then Beat up on Legacy and Shore 2 Shore. Like if they are in that top bracket would have an easy path to championship bracket.

Rebels, Legacy and Shore 2 Shore had no business being there, regardless of what their records wound up being. No meaningful wins and clearly miles behind the top tier teams. They are not doing their brand any favors by getting in tournaments over their head.

Someone needs a hug

More like our owner needs to stop putting us into top level tournaments when we are not able to be competitive. Give up an entire weekend, spend a fortune on shabby hotels and food only to get manhandled by good teams. If anyone speaks up and asks for a reality check your kid will be watching from the bench. Some program.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GI was one of the worst there. There were a few really bad clubs. There were about 6 teams that were exceptionally bad that ended up beating on each other during a meaningless day 2.. Bottom line: Any of the lower echelon teams could have had "easier" schedule but it don't matter because they can't beat the better teams like 91, Exp, etc, etc

GI was actually surprisingly a very gritty team. Took 1 or 2 goal losses to Eclipse, Primetime, Rebels. Then Beat up on Legacy and Shore 2 Shore. Like if they are in that top bracket would have an easy path to championship bracket.

Rebels, Legacy and Shore 2 Shore had no business being there, regardless of what their records wound up being. No meaningful wins and clearly miles behind the top tier teams. They are not doing their brand any favors by getting in tournaments over their head.

Someone needs a hug

More like our owner needs to stop putting us into top level tournaments when we are not able to be competitive. Give up an entire weekend, spend a fortune on shabby hotels and food only to get manhandled by good teams. If anyone speaks up and asks for a reality check your kid will be watching from the bench. Some program.

Define "competitive" please. Everyone had the same experience you did, Captain America. You paid the same as I did, you stayed in the same shabby hotels, you paid the same $14 for the chicken quesadilla, and if your son didn't get "manhandled" this weekend, he will at some point in his life. If I wasted my weekend, so did you. And if your response is "well at least my son more games than yours did" you should stop whatever it is your doing (which is probably nothing), look at yourself in the mirror, and ask where it is you went wrong in your life that you validate yourself on your 14 year old's exploits.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

GI was one of the worst there. There were a few really bad clubs. There were about 6 teams that were exceptionally bad that ended up beating on each other during a meaningless day 2.. Bottom line: Any of the lower echelon teams could have had "easier" schedule but it don't matter because they can't beat the better teams like 91, Exp, etc, etc

GI was actually surprisingly a very gritty team. Took 1 or 2 goal losses to Eclipse, Primetime, Rebels. Then Beat up on Legacy and Shore 2 Shore. Like if they are in that top bracket would have an easy path to championship bracket.

Rebels, Legacy and Shore 2 Shore had no business being there, regardless of what their records wound up being. No meaningful wins and clearly miles behind the top tier teams. They are not doing their brand any favors by getting in tournaments over their head.

Someone needs a hug

More like our owner needs to stop putting us into top level tournaments when we are not able to be competitive. Give up an entire weekend, spend a fortune on shabby hotels and food only to get manhandled by good teams. If anyone speaks up and asks for a reality check your kid will be watching from the bench. Some program.

Define "competitive" please. Everyone had the same experience you did, Captain America. You paid the same as I did, you stayed in the same shabby hotels, you paid the same $14 for the chicken quesadilla, and if your son didn't get "manhandled" this weekend, he will at some point in his life. If I wasted my weekend, so did you. And if your response is "well at least my son more games than yours did" you should stop whatever it is your doing (which is probably nothing), look at yourself in the mirror, and ask where it is you went wrong in your life that you validate yourself on your 14 year old's exploits.

Not sure what point you are trying to make but the original poster is clearly frustrated by their teams lack of competitiveness and inclusion in the qualifier. I sympathize with them. Our team had no shot at advancing yet we attended for the "experience". It costs a lot of money to attend. Without a real tier system you had top talent teams playing non competitive teams day 1. Day 2 separated the talent slightly but how was CoachC not on the opposite side of the bracket of 91. Both are the top teams in this class. The seeding should of had them meet in the finals unless an upset occurred. That is how seeding works. One of the teams in the finals clearly didn't belong there. The lack of oversight in lacrosse is unbelievable. Why is there no tiered system like other youth sports (hockey, soccer). It doesn't make either program better to play teams well out of talent level in either direction.

"If you feed the lax sheep, they will come" baaaaaahhh baaaaahhhh!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what point you are trying to make but the original poster is clearly frustrated by their teams lack of competitiveness and inclusion in the qualifier. I sympathize with them. Our team had no shot at advancing yet we attended for the "experience". It costs a lot of money to attend. Without a real tier system you had top talent teams playing non competitive teams day 1. Day 2 separated the talent slightly but how was CoachC not on the opposite side of the bracket of 91. Both are the top teams in this class. The seeding should of had them meet in the finals unless an upset occurred. That is how seeding works. One of the teams in the finals clearly didn't belong there. The lack of oversight in lacrosse is unbelievable. Why is there no tiered system like other youth sports (hockey, soccer). It doesn't make either program better to play teams well out of talent level in either direction.

CoachC had the easiest schedule of any team - they didn’t make it to the championship game because they allowed too many goals in the first day and ranked below Igloo at the end of the day. That’s squarely on them and not the fault of the tournament. They ended up with the #2 seed in their bracket because of how they played the first day, which meant they had to play with #1 seed from the opposite bracket in the semifinals.

I can understand some mid-level teams may complain that they had harder schedules than some other mid-level teams, that’s going to happen at that level, but CoachC cannot complain. They were set up for a cakewalk and should have met 91 in the finals, but seeding can’t guarantee who meets who in the finals - that’s up to how the teams actually play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not sure what point you are trying to make but the original poster is clearly frustrated by their teams lack of competitiveness and inclusion in the qualifier. I sympathize with them. Our team had no shot at advancing yet we attended for the "experience". It costs a lot of money to attend. Without a real tier system you had top talent teams playing non competitive teams day 1. Day 2 separated the talent slightly but how was CoachC not on the opposite side of the bracket of 91. Both are the top teams in this class. The seeding should of had them meet in the finals unless an upset occurred. That is how seeding works. One of the teams in the finals clearly didn't belong there. The lack of oversight in lacrosse is unbelievable. Why is there no tiered system like other youth sports (hockey, soccer). It doesn't make either program better to play teams well out of talent level in either direction.

The brackets were set up so that CoachC and 91 would meet in the finals. CoachC didn't finish first in their group, Igloo did based on Goals Against. So essentially CoachC blew it by not finishing first in their group, this is why they faced 91 in the semi's. And who cares, CoachC ended up playing 91 and lost. Then Igloo played them to a closer game than CoachC, seems like a win/win for everyone involved (except those that lost). Surprised how many haters actually come on here an post. I would bet over 75% of the parents realize that most of these tournaments are money grabs. We're going to spend the money one way or another and our kids (and parents) actually enjoy the experience and being able to watch our kids compete. The "sane" ones have a good idea of where their kid and teams talent level stands and look forward to seeing how they do against some of these "top" programs. Good luck to all those going to MD in July. Will be a fun experience for the kids and for those parents who aren't disgruntled that their kid didn't "make" it.

The sane ones stayed home and spent their parents tuition money on better options for their teams.

Express W had the cake walk schedule. We all knew it. Only game should have had trouble with would be outlaws. With AA players coming down should do better right? Instead stopped no one.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The sane ones stayed home and spent their parents tuition money on better options for their teams.

What good teams stayed home?

Its says" sane", not good. To show up at an event, knowing you shouldn't be there, only to get destroyed and then feed it as a "moral victory" to starving parents In sane!

in·sane
/inˈsān/

adjective
1.
in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its says" sane", not good. To show up at an event, knowing you shouldn't be there, only to get destroyed and then feed it as a "moral victory" to starving parents In sane!

in·sane
/inˈsān/

adjective
1.
in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction.

So to answer the question for you, no good teams stayed home.

So the only sane ones also happened to be bad. At least the insane ones took a shot!

There were maybe 5 good teams there. You made my point for me. 2/3 of them shouldnt have been there. The only shot they took was to their checkbooks and pride. Sad. Events like that are useful for the upper level teams. But really, what is to be gained by the C-tier clubs participating? The "experience"? The experience of realizing your team doesnt belong? I guess there could be a lesson to be learned there tho...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

There were maybe 5 good teams there. You made my point for me. 2/3 of them shouldnt have been there. The only shot they took was to their checkbooks and pride. Sad. Events like that are useful for the upper level teams. But really, what is to be gained by the C-tier clubs participating? The "experience"? The experience of realizing your team doesnt belong? I guess there could be a lesson to be learned there tho...

Why do you get to decide for everyone? Decide for yourself, I’ll decide with my kid!

What lesson is learned playing in a tournament that really means nothing? If there are only a few good teams out there than why play the sport the same few teams can play each other and that would be boring. Kids develope differently over time let’s remember these kids are only 14 years old some of the best players in this grade may not even have picked up a stick yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What lesson is learned playing in a tournament that really means nothing? If there are only a few good teams out there than why play the sport the same few teams can play each other and that would be boring. Kids develope differently over time let’s remember these kids are only 14 years old some of the best players in this grade may not even have picked up a stick yet.

The diamond in the rough football player that picks up a stick and becomes a star is an ancient story told around the campfire while making s’mores. It might happen every decade, but don’t bet the mortgage.

The best, highly skilled kids you see now will be all over the college landscape, still likely the best.

I think my takeaway from reading all of these posts above is that none of this has anything to do with the kids. It seems to be, in my humble opinion, a lot of insecure parents with combating egos. If everyone took it for what it was, which is 14 yr old kid lacrosse, then this board would probably be blank.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What lesson is learned playing in a tournament that really means nothing? If there are only a few good teams out there than why play the sport the same few teams can play each other and that would be boring. Kids develope differently over time let’s remember these kids are only 14 years old some of the best players in this grade may not even have picked up a stick yet.

In the 80s, 90s and early 2000 this may have been true. But in today’s day and age no chance. Kids are starting travel ball in 2nd grade now. If the first time you pick up a stick is in 8th grade you are now to far behind.

Nah, man. All's it means when a kid "picks up a stick" in 2nd grade is:

1. He will peak too soon and lead parents down an "ego rabbit hole". He may be "a star" in those early years but as kids get older and hit puberty...that "Star" starts to fade, FAST and the kids that were discarded or didn't play in the early years begin to emerge... It does make a difference for probably 1 in 1500 kids...

2. The 2nd-grade kid will be physically beaten up by age 14 from overuse and will probably have a distaste for the sport due to the foolish parents taking all the joy out of it for them.

Nothing more...nothing less You see it all the time...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nah, man. All's it means when a kid "picks up a stick" in 2nd grade is:

1. He will peak too soon and lead parents down an "ego rabbit hole". He may be "a star" in those early years but as kids get older and hit puberty...that "Star" starts to fade, FAST and the kids that were discarded or didn't play in the early years begin to emerge... It does make a difference for probably 1 in 1500 kids...

2. The 2nd-grade kid will be physically beaten up by age 14 from overuse and will probably have a distaste for the sport due to the foolish parents taking all the joy out of it for them.

Nothing more...nothing less You see it all the time...

Those kids are weak, mostly because they have weak parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nah, man. All's it means when a kid "picks up a stick" in 2nd grade is:

1. He will peak too soon and lead parents down an "ego rabbit hole". He may be "a star" in those early years but as kids get older and hit puberty...that "Star" starts to fade, FAST and the kids that were discarded or didn't play in the early years begin to emerge... It does make a difference for probably 1 in 1500 kids...

2. The 2nd-grade kid will be physically beaten up by age 14 from overuse and will probably have a distaste for the sport due to the foolish parents taking all the joy out of it for them.

Nothing more...nothing less You see it all the time...

Those kids are weak, mostly because they have weak parents.

I agree ☝️ 💯%

Agree with ^^^ our club direction specifically told our team in a zoom call 6 weeks ago don't waste money on showcases or encourage your son to want his name lit up on social media - those people are out to take your $, take credit when your kid gets good and no college coaches give a rats butt about 2025s right now. Just keep getting better.
But then, within days of that advice, we had our parents organizing outside film of tournaments, including 'individual filming' of their own kids.

Are these clubs seriously starting to have "tryouts" in July. We are already extending tournaments into July because of the ridiculous WSYL. Please give us a break. By now every coach knows every player can't we just have some time off. Just a few years ago September was tryout season now its pushed into summers and vacations. Why not have the players under contract like the NFL. The minute a club is done with you the can cut you loose and poach someone else.
What happens to teams like Regulators who were put together for WSYL only?
Open up your checkbooks, the push from clubs will now be to get your rising 9th grader recruited! Gotta do showcases, gotta have film, gotta be seen by as many coaches as possible. Please make it stop.

What happened to the true blue team at this age? I recall them being a descent team. why weren’t they at the qualifier ?

When you say please make it stop, who are you saying please to?

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Are these clubs seriously starting to have "tryouts" in July. We are already extending tournaments into July because of the ridiculous WSYL. Please give us a break. By now every coach knows every player can't we just have some time off. Just a few years ago September was tryout season now its pushed into summers and vacations. Why not have the players under contract like the NFL. The minute a club is done with you the can cut you loose and poach someone else.
What happens to teams like Regulators who were put together for WSYL only?
Open up your checkbooks, the push from clubs will now be to get your rising 9th grader recruited! Gotta do showcases, gotta have film, gotta be seen by as many coaches as possible. Please make it stop.

Regulators was not at all put together for WSYL only. The goal is to keep a team together to develop.

Who cares Still had no business being at WSYL

Big difference from teams that draw players from all over the state like NJ which only has maybe big 3 teams to Long Island where besides Express and 91 most teams are drawing off of maybe 3 towns. Props to the teams that put training over everything and didn’t run out their 2024s. Also funny seeing some teams missing kids they have been running out there all year who obviously weren’t on age.

Its over...Move on!!!! Let the teams that made WSYL play out the string and write more checks. Who cares?

And the teams that didn't make it: Get back to work... develop your players, play more local tourneys as that is where your teams will get better.. Use all of your parts, not just a few. Switch up your boring practice routines... Let the kids play rather than barking notIntelligent lax phrases from the sideline...

Stop focusing on tryouts for next season when this one hasnt even concluded. Make the kids want to play for you and for each other....

Oh wait...where is the profit in that?

Fantastic post

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its over...Move on!!!! Let the teams that made WSYL play out the string and write more checks. Who cares?

And the teams that didn't make it: Get back to work... develop your players, play more local tourneys as that is where your teams will get better.. Use all of your parts, not just a few. Switch up your boring practice routines... Let the kids play rather than barking notIntelligent lax phrases from the sideline...

Stop focusing on tryouts for next season when this one hasnt even concluded. Make the kids want to play for you and for each other....

Oh wait...where is the profit in that?

Great post. I have never witnessed such an over coaches bunch of robots in my life. Some of the better were absolutely lost once their sets got stuffed. Zero improvised offense, constantly looking over at the coaches for direction. My all time favorite is when a kid makes a mistake the coach screams so everyone knows exactly what he did wrong. That is not coaching. As far as tryouts go, everyone looking for the next best thing. We went to WSYL and got our rear ends kicked. How about coming back and coaching us up to be better instead of posting your new tryout dates. The whole landscape of youth sports has changed and not for the better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

Its sad because the kids are afraid to shoot, improvise, read the defense or decide on their own when it is a "good time".... And they are also afraid to get called out or pulled from a game if they do exercise their lacrosse IQ.

The real kicker, which is the icing on most clubs, is that the coaches cater to a few players (and all the other kids pick up on it). That's not a healthy "team" environment as kids become resentful, as do the parents. Hence, what is the motivation to play for a coach that treats his players unequally like that? Is there any? Apparently not based on the performances of teams that face these challenges.

There are a lot of "coaches" out there that cant see past their own ambitions. That is why their clubs don't win anything. That is also why you see so much player movement each year. The best players on these clubs are the ones that are overlooked or painted into their "role" . A role they can never escape no matter what untrue speech their "coach" gives...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Agree with ^^^ our club direction specifically told our team in a zoom call 6 weeks ago don't waste money on showcases or encourage your son to want his name lit up on social media - those people are out to take your $, take credit when your kid gets good and no college coaches give a rats butt about 2025s right now. Just keep getting better.
But then, within days of that advice, we had our parents organizing outside film of tournaments, including 'individual filming' of their own kids.

That's because everyone thinks they need to be a brand now. So you have News 12 reporters on Instagram showcasing their "lifestyles" in the hope of getting picked up by NBC, you have amateur shoppers flooding their feeds with selfies of them wearing designer clothes in the hope of getting followers to monetize their posts, and 14 year old kids getting bar mitzvah quality video productions of themselves hitting the corners in the hope that John Danowski sees it while sitting on the toilet and scrolling through his instagram. It's crazy. 14 year old lacrosse reminds me of the southern pre-teen beauty competitions, without the finger food and hairspray. The status seeking is insane!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

WSYL ends on the 3rd this year, so you can be home in your white ribbed tee and in the driveway shooting off the fireworks that you picked up down there for cheap on the 4th.

And you can replay the video of 14 yr old kids doing the same thing they do at every other tournament once you get home. Heck, Im sure they'll only charge you $200 for it.... And maybe you can coerce your neighbors to come over and watch it too so you can tell him that Lil Johnny was at the WSYL and you feel better about yourself. Get out your checkbook... Baaah Baaaahhh Lax sheep!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

1- it is not an additional cost for my sons team. It’s pathetic that your program is making you do that.
2- every travel tournament I pay for food, hotel and travel. It’s what is expected when you sign your child up for travel lacrosse.
3- I didn’t say that’s how I want to spend my 4th of July weekend but my sons team is playing so I will enjoy the weekend watching.
You sound like an angry parent who’s son is not very good at the sport.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

1- it is not an additional cost for my sons team. It’s pathetic that your program is making you do that.
2- every travel tournament I pay for food, hotel and travel. It’s what is expected when you sign your child up for travel lacrosse.
3- I didn’t say that’s how I want to spend my 4th of July weekend but my sons team is playing so I will enjoy the weekend watching.
You sound like an angry parent who’s son is not very good at the sport.

My bet is this guys kid is actually pretty good at it but the father is angry that he stunk and as a result he is holding the kid back because he is bitter and worst of all, cheap.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

1- it is not an additional cost for my sons team. It’s pathetic that your program is making you do that.
2- every travel tournament I pay for food, hotel and travel. It’s what is expected when you sign your child up for travel lacrosse.
3- I didn’t say that’s how I want to spend my 4th of July weekend but my sons team is playing so I will enjoy the weekend watching.
You sound like an angry parent who’s son is not very good at the sport.

Why would you bring up his son? You are a fool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

1- it is not an additional cost for my sons team. It’s pathetic that your program is making you do that.
2- every travel tournament I pay for food, hotel and travel. It’s what is expected when you sign your child up for travel lacrosse.
3- I didn’t say that’s how I want to spend my 4th of July weekend but my sons team is playing so I will enjoy the weekend watching.
You sound like an angry parent who’s son is not very good at the sport.

My bet is this guys kid is actually pretty good at it but the father is angry that he stunk and as a result he is holding the kid back because he is bitter and worst of all, cheap.

You cannot call anyone who pays for travel lacrosse cheap. If the rest of the country knew what we pay for the "privilege's" of travel lacrosse they would have us committed for insanity. Lacrosse is an elitist sport and cost big money just to participate. Our team didn't make it out of the qualifiers. Although I was a little disappointed, as was my son, it's over and done with. The real commentary is the extraordinary expense of time and money just for participation in youth lacrosse. Club owners and tournaments laughing all the way to the bank.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

1- it is not an additional cost for my sons team. It’s pathetic that your program is making you do that.
2- every travel tournament I pay for food, hotel and travel. It’s what is expected when you sign your child up for travel lacrosse.
3- I didn’t say that’s how I want to spend my 4th of July weekend but my sons team is playing so I will enjoy the weekend watching.
You sound like an angry parent who’s son is not very good at the sport.

Why would you bring up his son? You are a fool.

You must be this guys brother. Also pathetic. Acting as if someones name was mentioned here. You must've got picked on as a child.

Travel Laxaholics are brainwashed

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

1- it is not an additional cost for my sons team. It’s pathetic that your program is making you do that.
2- every travel tournament I pay for food, hotel and travel. It’s what is expected when you sign your child up for travel lacrosse.
3- I didn’t say that’s how I want to spend my 4th of July weekend but my sons team is playing so I will enjoy the weekend watching.
You sound like an angry parent who’s son is not very good at the sport.

I heard WSYL is an extra $800. Is this true?

That is just to sign up after qualifying...All in....its probably 1x that amt

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

1- it is not an additional cost for my sons team. It’s pathetic that your program is making you do that.
2- every travel tournament I pay for food, hotel and travel. It’s what is expected when you sign your child up for travel lacrosse.
3- I didn’t say that’s how I want to spend my 4th of July weekend but my sons team is playing so I will enjoy the weekend watching.
You sound like an angry parent who’s son is not very good at the sport.

I heard WSYL is an extra $800. Is this true?

$325

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

1- it is not an additional cost for my sons team. It’s pathetic that your program is making you do that.
2- every travel tournament I pay for food, hotel and travel. It’s what is expected when you sign your child up for travel lacrosse.
3- I didn’t say that’s how I want to spend my 4th of July weekend but my sons team is playing so I will enjoy the weekend watching.
You sound like an angry parent who’s son is not very good at the sport.

I heard WSYL is an extra $800. Is this true?

It's $325 as posted on their website.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

1- it is not an additional cost for my sons team. It’s pathetic that your program is making you do that.
2- every travel tournament I pay for food, hotel and travel. It’s what is expected when you sign your child up for travel lacrosse.
3- I didn’t say that’s how I want to spend my 4th of July weekend but my sons team is playing so I will enjoy the weekend watching.
You sound like an angry parent who’s son is not very good at the sport.

My bet is this guys kid is actually pretty good at it but the father is angry that he stunk and as a result he is holding the kid back because he is bitter and worst of all, cheap.

You cannot call anyone who pays for travel lacrosse cheap. If the rest of the country knew what we pay for the "privilege's" of travel lacrosse they would have us committed for insanity. Lacrosse is an elitist sport and cost big money just to participate. Our team didn't make it out of the qualifiers. Although I was a little disappointed, as was my son, it's over and done with. The real commentary is the extraordinary expense of time and money just for participation in youth lacrosse. Club owners and tournaments laughing all the way to the bank.

Cheap

As suspected, this board has gone quiet after the WSYL "Qualifier"... The teams that made it are content, the teams that didnt have gone into hibernation....Typical

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As suspected, this board has gone quiet after the WSYL "Qualifier"... The teams that made it are content, the teams that didnt have gone into hibernation....Typical

Its been a minute....and spring break....chillax. People will be hating on 91 again soon enough.

BEST POST IN A WHILE That was funny. And true

Early on observation is that Team 91 is the team to beat in the Elite division. Next Level is probably the team that will give them a good game based on their size.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BEST POST IN A WHILE That was funny. And true

Most clubs have gone into hibernation. Our club hasn't practiced in over two weeks. So much time and energy spent on the qualifier now with two weeks off it will take twice that to get back in shape.

Clubs are already starting to advertise tryouts in early July while most will still be playing tournaments. How much movement should there be on teams when all these kids are going into HS. At this point all they are is showcasing individual talents. Am I the only one that is disappointed that players still have to pay to tryout for teams they already play for?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tru Who? They were one of the smart ones that didnt get fleeced

You do realize that the cost for entering a team into the WSYL is no more money than some regular tournaments?

No, it's an additional expense. Please don't tell me your club isn't making you pay for the extra round or are you just chiming in. Our club didn't figure advancement into the regular tuition so now parents are asked to go into their pockets, again. Add in hotel, meals, travel and you're looking at an very expensive tournament Wednesday to Sunday. Isn't that how you'd prefer to spend your 4th of July? After all, 14 year old lacrosse is LIFE.

1- it is not an additional cost for my sons team. It’s pathetic that your program is making you do that.
2- every travel tournament I pay for food, hotel and travel. It’s what is expected when you sign your child up for travel lacrosse.
3- I didn’t say that’s how I want to spend my 4th of July weekend but my sons team is playing so I will enjoy the weekend watching.
You sound like an angry parent who’s son is not very good at the sport.

Why would you bring up his son? You are a fool.

You must be this guys brother. Also pathetic. Acting as if someones name was mentioned here. You must've got picked on as a child.

Nope. Just don't like it when short, pathetic losers who probably never played a sport in their lives insult kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BEST POST IN A WHILE That was funny. And true

Most clubs have gone into hibernation. Our club hasn't practiced in over two weeks. So much time and energy spent on the qualifier now with two weeks off it will take twice that to get back in shape.

Clubs are already starting to advertise tryouts in early July while most will still be playing tournaments. How much movement should there be on teams when all these kids are going into HS. At this point all they are is showcasing individual talents. Am I the only one that is disappointed that players still have to pay to tryout for teams they already play for?

First year in club lacrosse? LOL. Tons of movement this year. Most Catholic school kids will end up at CoachC this year and next.

Stick to script please: WSYL is a joke and Club teams fleece the foolish parents...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

BEST POST IN A WHILE That was funny. And true

Most clubs have gone into hibernation. Our club hasn't practiced in over two weeks. So much time and energy spent on the qualifier now with two weeks off it will take twice that to get back in shape.

Clubs are already starting to advertise tryouts in early July while most will still be playing tournaments. How much movement should there be on teams when all these kids are going into HS. At this point all they are is showcasing individual talents. Am I the only one that is disappointed that players still have to pay to tryout for teams they already play for?

First year in club lacrosse? LOL. Tons of movement this year. Most Catholic school kids will end up at CoachC this year and next.

Why do you think that? The three Duke super Freshmen that were Friars, played at 91 and Legacy. Doesn’t matter what club you play for. The best players will start on the varsity.

Agreed does not matter what club you are with ... what matters is the club coach you have some of these guys are terriifc placing kids in the right schools and others just worry about the top 5 and then don't care about the rest . do your homework don't get caught up in wins and losses it is about your kid in the end .

That’s 100 percent accurate. It’s about your kid in the end. Plus when you say coaches sometimes are worried about the top 5, that doesn’t always mean the top 5 talented kids. It can be who knows who. Who is connected to the organization? Certain kids get looked after more than other kids. That’s how it is.

The coaches dont care bro. If your kid is good, people will find him. Please stop drinking the "Showcase" koolaide.... Cream rises to top. No matter who is stirring the pot.

All correct but you want a coach that you can trust and are getting the right information form the otherside i have wathced coaches push certain kids on a program and they were not the best kid . My point being if you can not trust your club coach then get out now and get on a team that has a track record with college coaches . There are many factors when it comes to recruiting and a key piece is head coach ....

At the end of the day it's up to the kid and the parents to do the work. You're the ones sending the letters, emails, highlight tapes, etc, no matter who you play for. It's a ton of work with no guarantees. There may be 40 other attack or middies just like you yet one recruiter saw something another didn't. Stop thinking because they play club at a certain program or go to a certain private school your chances are 10x better, they are not. There is only one college program that consistently takes a few LI kids. Those kids are already the top 1% in their class, not because of where they play club. Even than some are told do a PG year and well see you next year.

On the flip side, I've seen kids go to Duke, NC, Princeton and Yale just to play lacrosse now their still trying to figure out how to make money. Their classmates have gone on to very lucrative careers, yet they are lax lifers. All depends on what the end game is.

No one sends letters or emails or even highlight tapes because they go into the junk account , the College coach picks up the phone and talks with the CLUB head coach that is a fact . Keep sending the emails , letters and highlight tapes and let me know how that works ....

You are right on with your comments about the right club and the right coach. If you play for a top tier elite club with a good coach that is well connected you have a leg up on everyone else. It's just the way it is. When we had Covid last year and no lax our coach was able to have college coaches talk to our kids via zoom about college lax and what they look for in kids etc. We continuously have college kids come to practices and work with the kids all through the network. Our club had 15 D-1 commits this past year as well. The coach drove the connections and made sure the kids were fit with the right schools for looks and it was all based on relationships. Sure the video's and showcases were part of it, but ultimately the club team and coach was responsible for the success of the program and the kids moving on to play at the next level. I saw it and have been living it first hand.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are right on with your comments about the right club and the right coach. If you play for a top tier elite club with a good coach that is well connected you have a leg up on everyone else. It's just the way it is. When we had Covid last year and no lax our coach was able to have college coaches talk to our kids via zoom about college lax and what they look for in kids etc. We continuously have college kids come to practices and work with the kids all through the network. Our club had 15 D-1 commits this past year as well. The coach drove the connections and made sure the kids were fit with the right schools for looks and it was all based on relationships. Sure the video's and showcases were part of it, but ultimately the club team and coach was responsible for the success of the program and the kids moving on to play at the next level. I saw it and have been living it first hand.

Amazing. What club is this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are right on with your comments about the right club and the right coach. If you play for a top tier elite club with a good coach that is well connected you have a leg up on everyone else. It's just the way it is. When we had Covid last year and no lax our coach was able to have college coaches talk to our kids via zoom about college lax and what they look for in kids etc. We continuously have college kids come to practices and work with the kids all through the network. Our club had 15 D-1 commits this past year as well. The coach drove the connections and made sure the kids were fit with the right schools for looks and it was all based on relationships. Sure the video's and showcases were part of it, but ultimately the club team and coach was responsible for the success of the program and the kids moving on to play at the next level. I saw it and have been living it first hand.

Stop please, there are only 70 mens D1 programs and your club placed 15 kids on D1 teams this past year. I call BS. Name the club program and the colleges they committed to.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are right on with your comments about the right club and the right coach. If you play for a top tier elite club with a good coach that is well connected you have a leg up on everyone else. It's just the way it is. When we had Covid last year and no lax our coach was able to have college coaches talk to our kids via zoom about college lax and what they look for in kids etc. We continuously have college kids come to practices and work with the kids all through the network. Our club had 15 D-1 commits this past year as well. The coach drove the connections and made sure the kids were fit with the right schools for looks and it was all based on relationships. Sure the video's and showcases were part of it, but ultimately the club team and coach was responsible for the success of the program and the kids moving on to play at the next level. I saw it and have been living it first hand.

Stop please, there are only 70 mens D1 programs and your club placed 15 kids on D1 teams this past year. I call BS. Name the club program and the colleges they committed to.

Please do not stop & immediately tell us your club.

So $325 for each of the 25 man roster. So that is $8,125 in registration fees for each team. Nice try telling yourself that your club is picking this up and that this is the cost of another tournament. Most tournaments have registration fees of $1300 to $2250 (Depending on 1 day or 2 day tournaments). Name me a club director who is shelling out of his own pocket $8k to register a team. This is another a la cart fee. Pay $3-4k for the basic package and then add in additional trainings, playdates and tournaments (not to mention travel/hotel/food costs). Just stop with the madness. People have a right to spend their money as they wish. The $325 may be a great experience and worth it, and it is up to every person/team to decide to go, but no way clubs are picking this up. Wake up.

Do you folks realize that with all the money you drop on Lax, chasing the elusive "scholarship", that you could pay for a college education 2x over? And if a lax scholarship is the only way a kid can get into a college then the parents would be better served paying for a tutor, not a "Showcase tourney". Wake up. Prepare your kids for life, not lax.... And lax is not life, contrary to what the sheep say...baaah baaaah!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So $325 for each of the 25 man roster. So that is $8,125 in registration fees for each team. Nice try telling yourself that your club is picking this up and that this is the cost of another tournament. Most tournaments have registration fees of $1300 to $2250 (Depending on 1 day or 2 day tournaments). Name me a club director who is shelling out of his own pocket $8k to register a team. This is another a la cart fee. Pay $3-4k for the basic package and then add in additional trainings, playdates and tournaments (not to mention travel/hotel/food costs). Just stop with the madness. People have a right to spend their money as they wish. The $325 may be a great experience and worth it, and it is up to every person/team to decide to go, but no way clubs are picking this up. Wake up.

Do all clubs charge an additional fee on top?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you folks realize that with all the money you drop on Lax, chasing the elusive "scholarship", that you could pay for a college education 2x over? And if a lax scholarship is the only way a kid can get into a college then the parents would be better served paying for a tutor, not a "Showcase tourney". Wake up. Prepare your kids for life, not lax.... And lax is not life, contrary to what the sheep say...baaah baaaah!

Who said anything about scholarship?

For most, it’s not about the scholarship...this is clear given the limited number of them available in lax.

It’s about continuing the love of the game, while learning many life lessons through highly competitive sports, and then leveraging experiences to get consideration into a competitive academic stretch school.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are right on with your comments about the right club and the right coach. If you play for a top tier elite club with a good coach that is well connected you have a leg up on everyone else. It's just the way it is. When we had Covid last year and no lax our coach was able to have college coaches talk to our kids via zoom about college lax and what they look for in kids etc. We continuously have college kids come to practices and work with the kids all through the network. Our club had 15 D-1 commits this past year as well. The coach drove the connections and made sure the kids were fit with the right schools for looks and it was all based on relationships. Sure the video's and showcases were part of it, but ultimately the club team and coach was responsible for the success of the program and the kids moving on to play at the next level. I saw it and have been living it first hand.

Amazing. What club is this?

What club?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are right on with your comments about the right club and the right coach. If you play for a top tier elite club with a good coach that is well connected you have a leg up on everyone else. It's just the way it is. When we had Covid last year and no lax our coach was able to have college coaches talk to our kids via zoom about college lax and what they look for in kids etc. We continuously have college kids come to practices and work with the kids all through the network. Our club had 15 D-1 commits this past year as well. The coach drove the connections and made sure the kids were fit with the right schools for looks and it was all based on relationships. Sure the video's and showcases were part of it, but ultimately the club team and coach was responsible for the success of the program and the kids moving on to play at the next level. I saw it and have been living it first hand.

Amazing. What club is this?

What club?

Plenty of clubs had college coaches. It’s called mass recruiting. It’s an easy win-win for the coaches and the kids. If your organization didn’t do that, then you didn’t even get the basics!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you folks realize that with all the money you drop on Lax, chasing the elusive "scholarship", that you could pay for a college education 2x over? And if a lax scholarship is the only way a kid can get into a college then the parents would be better served paying for a tutor, not a "Showcase tourney". Wake up. Prepare your kids for life, not lax.... And lax is not life, contrary to what the sheep say...baaah baaaah!

Who said anything about scholarship?

For most, it’s not about the scholarship...this is clear given the limited number of them available in lax.

It’s about continuing the love of the game, while learning many life lessons through highly competitive sports, and then leveraging experiences to get consideration into a competitive academic stretch school.

Why do so many of you think lacrosse is helping with your admission. You get NO CONSIDERATION if you are not "recruited" by a particular school Lacrosse does nothing for your reach school if you are not offered a spot by that school. Coaches are only given a few spots each year to get a student admitted with a slightly lower admission standard, some schools not at all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are right on with your comments about the right club and the right coach. If you play for a top tier elite club with a good coach that is well connected you have a leg up on everyone else. It's just the way it is. When we had Covid last year and no lax our coach was able to have college coaches talk to our kids via zoom about college lax and what they look for in kids etc. We continuously have college kids come to practices and work with the kids all through the network. Our club had 15 D-1 commits this past year as well. The coach drove the connections and made sure the kids were fit with the right schools for looks and it was all based on relationships. Sure the video's and showcases were part of it, but ultimately the club team and coach was responsible for the success of the program and the kids moving on to play at the next level. I saw it and have been living it first hand.

Amazing. What club is this?

What club?

No club besides express or 91 has 15 D1 commits. Also if you really look at their commit list there are a handful of fools going to Acc/Ivy/Big10. Those players are going there regardless of which club they play for. The rest of the list is very mediocre. Point is cream rises to the top and if you're not a stud then you better work all your angles. If you're at express you better be at StAs or Cham and vice versa.

Why are they still calling it the WSYL when there are no International Teams? Part of the experience was travelling to Denver, now moved to The District of Storm the Capital, meeting and playing teams you don't normally see. I am so excited to spend a week in DC playing the same teams we'll see all Spring. Can't wait. See you there.

Team 91 MD 2022 Fire Will Schaller, University of MD; Mason Quick, Utah; Max Watkinson, Loyola; Jake Bair, Marquette; Jimmy Kohr, Boston U; Collin Campbell, St. Josephs; Cardin Stoller, Rutgers; Nathan Crouse, Air Force; Haydin Sommer, Army; Johnny Cool, Ohio State; Malachi Jones, Virginia. These are the 11 that are posted on Inside Lacrosse if you want to look it up. There are 8 more players on the team that have not committed yet and at least 4 if not more are D1 prospects and will commit. Sorry not BS......

W$YL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MD 2022 Fire Will Schaller, University of MD; Mason Quick, Utah; Max Watkinson, Loyola; Jake Bair, Marquette; Jimmy Kohr, Boston U; Collin Campbell, St. Josephs; Cardin Stoller, Rutgers; Nathan Crouse, Air Force; Haydin Sommer, Army; Johnny Cool, Ohio State; Malachi Jones, Virginia. These are the 11 that are posted on Inside Lacrosse if you want to look it up. There are 8 more players on the team that have not committed yet and at least 4 if not more are D1 prospects and will commit. Sorry not BS......

Your statement was this past year, which would have been 2021, now your saying 2022. 11 is also a long way from 15. Just because it's posted on IL doesn't mean a thing, its a non binding verbal commitment. Some real high level academic institutions you got there.

Sorry man they committed this past year for future 2022's - you follow the kids I mentioned and look at the other 8 players that are on that team. You'll be surprised there are at least 4 more that will all go to top tier schools. All play in the MIAA and are studs. It's all good my friend just proving the point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sorry man they committed this past year for future 2022's - you follow the kids I mentioned and look at the other 8 players that are on that team. You'll be surprised there are at least 4 more that will all go to top tier schools. All play in the MIAA and are studs. It's all good my friend just proving the point.

Stick to the script. This is a 2025 forum. Please continue to bash the W$YL. If you need some new material, I'm sure there are some 2025 $howcase$. After that you can post about your commitment to Nassau or Suffolk CC.

WSYL = World SCAM of Youth Lax...... Are all the qualifiers over? Maybe they can have a secondary qualifying tournament to actually get enough teams to hold a tournament? If not, just move it to Garden City as it will be all of the LI teams anyway. Fundraiser event: Put all directors in dunk tanks.....And CHARGE THEM $5 for each throw....

Are you busy?

Why? Is there a $howcase or a big tournament going on that we all need to know about?

How did regulators get into WSYL at 1-4, when Rebels went 3-2?
Regulators only win over Legacy who didn't win a game...

This is a New Low for WSYL. It shows WANT a Money grab it is.
A 1-4 Team, that got smoked by Rebels in fall.
Embarrassing in so many ways.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How did regulators get into WSYL at 1-4, when Rebels went 3-2?
Regulators only win over Legacy who didn't win a game...

Their parents offered to pay 2x the registration fee.

Because Regulators was in the "winners Bracket"..... They finished 4th and Rebels finished 6th... Basic Math.

It's a weekend qualifier. One team went 1-4, one went 3-2. Basic Math.

Both teams went 1-2 on Saturday. Regulators only win over Legacy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because Regulators was in the "winners Bracket"..... They finished 4th and Rebels finished 6th... Basic Math.

Basic math, ha, thanks Regulator dad. 2 days of pool play 1-4 vs 3-2, you should be proud. Brackets were rigged from the start. Doesn't matter anyway, it will be 91 and Express vs everyone else. The joke of a final game in the North meant nothing.

WAIT THE REGULATORS GOT IN??? WHAT A SCAM AND JOKE OF A TOURNAMENT. HOW DO TEAMS STILL DO THIS EVERY YEAR???

Day 2 meant nothing. It was the "Get your $'s worth" WSYL consolation game-day. Rebels was long out of it by then. Regulators at least finished 4th in their bracket when it mattered on Day 1. Im not saying they deserve to be in it but they did qualify ahead of the weebles. Does it really matter? Shiny Gold helmets going to DC. Shiny Red helmets are not. Get over it.

Going forward, please show some respect & refer to the them as " The WSYL Qualifying Regulators". MOVE OVER 91 and CHANSTER! There is a new kid on the block!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Day 2 meant nothing. It was the "Get your $'s worth" WSYL consolation game-day. Rebels was long out of it by then. Regulators at least finished 4th in their bracket when it mattered on Day 1. Im not saying they deserve to be in it but they did qualify ahead of the weebles. Does it really matter? Shiny Gold helmets going to DC. Shiny Red helmets are not. Get over it.

Lol. They went 1-2 and beat Legacy who couldn't beat anyone at this age.

Regulators get 2 min penalty go to box and should Feel Shame

If they qualified going 1 and 4, then the people in charge of the qualification committee need to maybe bring in some new people.

Me thinks that is what some posters have been saying all along. Its all joke. Write a check and you too can go to DC. The real question is why would Regulators accept? To get humiliated again?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators get 2 min penalty go to box and should Feel Shame

then you go free

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Me thinks that is what some posters have been saying all along. Its all joke. Write a check and you too can go to DC. The real question is why would Regulators accept? To get humiliated again?

So they can advertise it come tryout time and sucker another bunch of newbies to buy into their WSYL bs. The mission all along was WSYL or bust right? Congratulations, you played yourself.

Sure the Regulators got lucky, but they fairly qualified and of course they accepted.

Who wouldn’t want another few more months to prepare and get another chance to play top teams on a level playing field.

Good for them.

Probably good for others too if they don’t see Regulators as a threat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because Regulators was in the "winners Bracket"..... They finished 4th and Rebels finished 6th... Basic Math.

Basic math, ha, thanks Regulator dad. 2 days of pool play 1-4 vs 3-2, you should be proud. Brackets were rigged from the start. Doesn't matter anyway, it will be 91 and Express vs everyone else. The joke of a final game in the North meant nothing.

Regulators and Rebels should battle it out in CSH as a playoff and the lost is forced to go to World Series.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because Regulators was in the "winners Bracket"..... They finished 4th and Rebels finished 6th... Basic Math.

Basic math, ha, thanks Regulator dad. 2 days of pool play 1-4 vs 3-2, you should be proud. Brackets were rigged from the start. Doesn't matter anyway, it will be 91 and Express vs everyone else. The joke of a final game in the North meant nothing.

Regulators and Rebels should battle it out in CSH as a playoff and the lost is forced to go to World Series.

They already battled it out.
Rebels mopped the floor with the regulators.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because Regulators was in the "winners Bracket"..... They finished 4th and Rebels finished 6th... Basic Math.

Basic math, ha, thanks Regulator dad. 2 days of pool play 1-4 vs 3-2, you should be proud. Brackets were rigged from the start. Doesn't matter anyway, it will be 91 and Express vs everyone else. The joke of a final game in the North meant nothing.

Regulators and Rebels should battle it out in CSH as a playoff and the lost is forced to go to World Series.

They already battled it out.
Rebels mopped the floor with the regulators.

Stay classy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure the Regulators got lucky, but they fairly qualified and of course they accepted.

Who wouldn’t want another few more months to prepare and get another chance to play top teams on a level playing field.

Good for them.

Probably good for others too if they don’t see Regulators as a threat.

Fairly qualified? By taking a 1-4 team the WSYL made this even more of a joke then it already was.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure the Regulators got lucky, but they fairly qualified and of course they accepted.

Who wouldn’t want another few more months to prepare and get another chance to play top teams on a level playing field.

Good for them.

Probably good for others too if they don’t see Regulators as a threat.

Fairly qualified? By taking a 1-4 team the WSYL made this even more of a joke then it already was.

Everyone knows day two competition massively changes the win/loss results record for the entire qualifying tournament.

So one can’t simply compare absolute win/loss record for entire tournament when deciding next best team to advance.

Yes. Lucky, but they absolutely fairly qualified as next best team to advance.

Please stop. Just be silent. You sound ridiculous. The team was 1 and 4.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure the Regulators got lucky, but they fairly qualified and of course they accepted.

Who wouldn’t want another few more months to prepare and get another chance to play top teams on a level playing field.

Good for them.

Probably good for others too if they don’t see Regulators as a threat.

Fairly qualified? By taking a 1-4 team the WSYL made this even more of a joke then it already was.

Everyone knows day two competition massively changes the win/loss results record for the entire qualifying tournament.

So one can’t simply compare absolute win/loss record for entire tournament when deciding next best team to advance.

Yes. Lucky, but they absolutely fairly qualified as next best team to advance.

The only people that agree with you are Regulator parents. Our team qualified and I saw Rebels and Regulators both play. Rebels is a much stronger team. First day brackets were not evenly matched to begin with. Our team had no real competition on day 1.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure the Regulators got lucky, but they fairly qualified and of course they accepted.

Who wouldn’t want another few more months to prepare and get another chance to play top teams on a level playing field.

Good for them.

Probably good for others too if they don’t see Regulators as a threat.

Fairly qualified? By taking a 1-4 team the WSYL made this even more of a joke then it already was.

Everyone knows day two competition massively changes the win/loss results record for the entire qualifying tournament.

So one can’t simply compare absolute win/loss record for entire tournament when deciding next best team to advance.

Yes. Lucky, but they absolutely fairly qualified as next best team to advance.

The only people that agree with you are Regulator parents. Our team qualified and I saw Rebels and Regulators both play. Rebels is a much stronger team. First day brackets were not evenly matched to begin with. Our team had no real competition on day 1.

You take the blue pill...the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure the Regulators got lucky, but they fairly qualified and of course they accepted.

Who wouldn’t want another few more months to prepare and get another chance to play top teams on a level playing field.

Good for them.

Probably good for others too if they don’t see Regulators as a threat.

Fairly qualified? By taking a 1-4 team the WSYL made this even more of a joke then it already was.

Everyone knows day two competition massively changes the win/loss results record for the entire qualifying tournament.

So one can’t simply compare absolute win/loss record for entire tournament when deciding next best team to advance.

Yes. Lucky, but they absolutely fairly qualified as next best team to advance.

Stop it Regulator dad. They really shouldn't use the word "qualified". They actually didn't qualify. On tournament day, they went home without the invitation to play in July. They are a place filler added when another team dropped out. To be clear, they are replacing another team that didn't have to "qualify" as they were an International team, so nothing lost from a competition perspective. However, it does undermine the process. 1-2, 1,4. whatever...The team was terrible and it's unfair to the other terrible teams that also tried real hard.

Rebels didn't mop the floor with anyone. We were at a tournament in CT when Regulators OWNED Rebels.. And Rebels may have beat them 1x at another tournament. They are the same. 50/50 on any given day. Neither one is a legit Tier 1 team so stop the wishful thinking.

WSYL is still short teams so if they cant sprinkle fairy dust on an invite to the much smarter teams in other regions, then there may be 20 teams attending from the North and East. Everyone can "Qualify" and then carpool to DC. HOORAY!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure the Regulators got lucky, but they fairly qualified and of course they accepted.

Who wouldn’t want another few more months to prepare and get another chance to play top teams on a level playing field.

Good for them.

Probably good for others too if they don’t see Regulators as a threat.

Fairly qualified? By taking a 1-4 team the WSYL made this even more of a joke then it already was.

Everyone knows day two competition massively changes the win/loss results record for the entire qualifying tournament.

So one can’t simply compare absolute win/loss record for entire tournament when deciding next best team to advance.

Yes. Lucky, but they absolutely fairly qualified as next best team to advance.

Stop it Regulator dad. They really shouldn't use the word "qualified". They actually didn't qualify. On tournament day, they went home without the invitation to play in July. They are a place filler added when another team dropped out. To be clear, they are replacing another team that didn't have to "qualify" as they were an International team, so nothing lost from a competition perspective. However, it does undermine the process. 1-2, 1,4. whatever...The team was terrible and it's unfair to the other terrible teams that also tried real hard.

Regulators were lucky to qualify.
Let’s see what they can make of it.

Why does anyone care? If you didnt originally qualify you shouldnt be going anyway. So who cares? Whats the point of all the griping? Other clubs feel they are more worthy than Regulators? Which teams would those be? I didnt see any mid tier teams there that deserved it so if you could enlighten me it would be helpful.

This board is full of crazy dads, living through their sons. For their sake and yours, I hope your superstar becomes top position player on his high school team and a top 25 kid in Long Island. Otherwise he will be a roster filler at the d1 level, running the scout team. Enjoy at 100 mile drive every week to watch other kids play

The nonsense about WSYL, NLF, who the top u14 team is.... hilarious.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sure the Regulators got lucky, but they fairly qualified and of course they accepted.

Who wouldn’t want another few more months to prepare and get another chance to play top teams on a level playing field.

Good for them.

Probably good for others too if they don’t see Regulators as a threat.

Fairly qualified? By taking a 1-4 team the WSYL made this even more of a joke then it already was.

Everyone knows day two competition massively changes the win/loss results record for the entire qualifying tournament.

So one can’t simply compare absolute win/loss record for entire tournament when deciding next best team to advance.

Yes. Lucky, but they absolutely fairly qualified as next best team to advance.

Stop it Regulator dad. They really shouldn't use the word "qualified". They actually didn't qualify. On tournament day, they went home without the invitation to play in July. They are a place filler added when another team dropped out. To be clear, they are replacing another team that didn't have to "qualify" as they were an International team, so nothing lost from a competition perspective. However, it does undermine the process. 1-2, 1,4. whatever...The team was terrible and it's unfair to the other terrible teams that also tried real hard.

Regulators were lucky to qualify.
Let’s see what they can make of it.

WSYL uses the word "advanced". They used qualified on their posts of the teams that actually did.

Who should have qualified that didnt? I hear crickets chirping...

Look at the preliminary schedules of teams. Regulators only win was over 0-5 Team.
You can say they deserve to be in by the rules. 4 Teams get in from a very week 7 team division. Rebels had toughest draw.
Rebels will smoke the regulators. If I was a regulator parent/coach/administrator I would so embarrassed taking this. Its not going to help them, It will be the End of them.
This is as RIP for WSYL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at the preliminary schedules of teams. Regulators only win was over 0-5 Team.
You can say they deserve to be in by the rules. 4 Teams get in from a very week 7 team division. Rebels had toughest draw.
Rebels will smoke the regulators. If I was a regulator parent/coach/administrator I would so embarrassed taking this. Its not going to help them, It will be the End of them.
This is as RIP for WSYL

Can the regulator/rebel crew create a separate thread titled "The battle for 7th place and other irrelevant discussions"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does anyone care? If you didnt originally qualify you shouldnt be going anyway. So who cares? Whats the point of all the griping? Other clubs feel they are more worthy than Regulators? Which teams would those be? I didnt see any mid tier teams there that deserved it so if you could enlighten me it would be helpful.

Pay attention dummy. Look at the final records regardless of the so-called winners and losers brackets. More than a few teams with equal or better records. No team at 1-4 deserves to advance. This tournament has ZERO credibility. They are just taking teams to fill out brackets because other regions didn't have enough interest. 7 teams advanced from the North. Only 2 have a real shot to win it all.

Rebels challenge regulators to a Game winner gets in. How big are your balls regulators. We will crush you. Just accept and we will set it up. Maybe wsyl sanctions it. They would never because if Rebels got in they would do well and make them look like the fools they are. RIP wsyl

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels challenge regulators to a Game winner gets in. How big are your balls regulators. We will crush you. Just accept and we will set it up. Maybe wsyl sanctions it. They would never because if Rebels got in they would do well and make them look like the fools they are. RIP wsyl

Battle for the basement

WHO CARES !!!!!!!!!!!! 97% of these kids will not be playing lacrosse at the DIV 1 level ... just let your kid have fun ..... and by the way the DIV1 level is a job ....... you guys will never make it when college coaches are around just relax kids are 14 years old

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels challenge regulators to a Game winner gets in. How big are your balls regulators. We will crush you. Just accept and we will set it up. Maybe wsyl sanctions it. They would never because if Rebels got in they would do well and make them look like the fools they are. RIP wsyl

Battle for the basement

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels challenge regulators to a Game winner gets in. How big are your balls regulators. We will crush you. Just accept and we will set it up. Maybe wsyl sanctions it. They would never because if Rebels got in they would do well and make them look like the fools they are. RIP wsyl

Battle for the basement

Typical obnoxious Rebels parent!! Seems to be the same for all age groups!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels challenge regulators to a Game winner gets in. How big are your balls regulators. We will crush you. Just accept and we will set it up. Maybe wsyl sanctions it. They would never because if Rebels got in they would do well and make them look like the fools they are. RIP wsyl

Battle for the basement

More like the back door. Some of those rebels moms are spicy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does anyone care? If you didnt originally qualify you shouldnt be going anyway. So who cares? Whats the point of all the griping? Other clubs feel they are more worthy than Regulators? Which teams would those be? I didnt see any mid tier teams there that deserved it so if you could enlighten me it would be helpful.

Pay attention dummy. Look at the final records regardless of the so-called winners and losers brackets. More than a few teams with equal or better records. No team at 1-4 deserves to advance. This tournament has ZERO credibility. They are just taking teams to fill out brackets because other regions didn't have enough interest. 7 teams advanced from the North. Only 2 have a real shot to win it all.

Only one really. If you were there, you would know.

Rebels vs Regulators.... That's like watching a tortoise race a snail across the LI Expressway during rush hour... How about getting back on the practice field, incorporating new schemes, using all of your players and actually doing something different from what landed you in the basement in the first place? It's obvious, from what I have seen, that whatever these teams have been doing doesn't work.... so change it rather than crying about it.

A playoff game to decide the tallest [ChillLaxin] in the circus... That's a great idea! Maybe they can upcharge the parents for that privilege too....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It's obvious, from what I have seen, that whatever these teams have been doing doesn't work.... so change it rather than crying about it.

Thank you for your assessment Coach Danowski. These teams do just fine and are a perfect place for kids to play. Will they beat 91 and Express...no..but only 85 kids play for those two teams. The rest play on teams similar to Regulators and Rebels. Regulators took Express North into double OT at the qualifiers, how different are they from them? Regulators split with Rebels in last two. Regulators split with Igloo last two.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels challenge regulators to a Game winner gets in. How big are your balls regulators. We will crush you. Just accept and we will set it up. Maybe wsyl sanctions it. They would never because if Rebels got in they would do well and make them look like the fools they are. RIP wsyl

Hearing the rebels talk smack is hilarious.

Tournaments will be starting up in May so the teams will probably face each other then. As for WSYL...if Regs wants to attend, so be it. Im sure Rebs would have jumped on that in a heartbeat, even with their 3-2 record. Why any team would want to participate in that slop is beyond me but it isnt my call or yours...get over it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why does anyone care? If you didnt originally qualify you shouldnt be going anyway. So who cares? Whats the point of all the griping? Other clubs feel they are more worthy than Regulators? Which teams would those be? I didnt see any mid tier teams there that deserved it so if you could enlighten me it would be helpful.

Pay attention dummy. Look at the final records regardless of the so-called winners and losers brackets. More than a few teams with equal or better records. No team at 1-4 deserves to advance. This tournament has ZERO credibility. They are just taking teams to fill out brackets because other regions didn't have enough interest. 7 teams advanced from the North. Only 2 have a real shot to win it all.

Only one really. If you were there, you would know.

Agree with you on that. Although I didn't watch any LIE games we were completely overmatched against 91 (yes we qualified). 2 months of practice won't change the outcome for most of these teams. Talent gap is just too great. Unless there are some unusually strong squads from east I don't see anyone really giving 91 a real test.

Agree with you on that. Although I didn't watch any LIE games we were completely overmatched against 91 (yes we qualified). 2 months of practice won't change the outcome for most of these teams. Talent gap is just too great. Unless there are some unusually strong squads from east I don't see anyone really giving 91 a real test.

BBL in the East is quite good at the 2025 level. They were the men among boys in the East qualifier. 91 vs. BBL would probably be a good game.

91n aint that good Igloo played them tight. They top in North but wont beat the East

shock plays bbl on sunday

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91n aint that good Igloo played them tight. They top in North but wont beat the East

I'm not sure what game you were watching but that game was over from the whistle. After 2 minutes Igloo looking at each other for answers. 91 bigger, faster, stronger at every position.

Serious question. 91 Pulled some very good kids of other teams. Do the kids stay at 91, or go back to teams.

They scored 1 goal in 2nd half against Igloo. And Igloo didnt even play their starters... O-Ver-Rate-ED

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They scored 1 goal in 2nd half against Igloo. And Igloo didnt even play their starters... O-Ver-Rate-ED

You are correct 91, played their entire roster in 2nd half. Igloo's only subbing were the defensive middies other starters never came off. Unfortunately this is true of many teams. Roosters of 25 or 50, doesn't really matter because starters rarely come off the field. 91 controlled the ball the entire game and took their foot off the pedal in the 2nd half. Over rated would be Igloo. First day cake schedule, win bracket on GD. Wins against average teams 2nd day, smoked in final. See you in DC? I think not, you'll never make it that far. Oh yeah, lids looked great, if it was 5 years ago. Keep chasing AA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They scored 1 goal in 2nd half against Igloo. And Igloo didnt even play their starters... O-Ver-Rate-ED

Wait! Let me get this straight, igloo didn’t play to win?

91 owned igloo. Slapped them around and stole their lunch money. Then ate it in front of them.

Game was over at the half.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They scored 1 goal in 2nd half against Igloo. And Igloo didnt even play their starters... O-Ver-Rate-ED

Wait! Let me get this straight, igloo didn’t play to win?

91 owned igloo. Slapped them around and stole their lunch money. Then ate it in front of them.

Game was over at the half.

This is priceless. The final score was 5-2. From the first quote, it sounds like it could have been 4-0 at the half AT WORST. That sounds like a real beat down for an eighth grade team. fool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They scored 1 goal in 2nd half against Igloo. And Igloo didnt even play their starters... O-Ver-Rate-ED

Wait! Let me get this straight, igloo didn’t play to win?

91 owned igloo. Slapped them around and stole their lunch money. Then ate it in front of them.

Game was over at the half.

This is priceless. The final score was 5-2. From the first quote, it sounds like it could have been 4-0 at the half AT WORST. That sounds like a real beat down for an eighth grade team. fool.

Game was OVER at the half.

Igloo played to keep it close and 91 let them play the turtle game and emptied the bench. AA didn’t try to win and preferred the close score rather than going for the crown. It will only get worse the more often they play, fool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They scored 1 goal in 2nd half against Igloo. And Igloo didnt even play their starters... O-Ver-Rate-ED

Wait! Let me get this straight, igloo didn’t play to win?

91 owned igloo. Slapped them around and stole their lunch money. Then ate it in front of them.

Game was over at the half.

This is priceless. The final score was 5-2. From the first quote, it sounds like it could have been 4-0 at the half AT WORST. That sounds like a real beat down for an eighth grade team. fool.

Game was OVER at the half.

Igloo played to keep it close and 91 let them play the turtle game and emptied the bench. AA didn’t try to win and preferred the close score rather than going for the crown. It will only get worse the more often they play, fool.

You sound like a fool and are obviously NOT an Igloo parent. Igloo is forbidden from any and all public comments, otherwise someone may see behind the curtain. You're average at best. Maybe you'll get a shiny new helmet if you win a game.

Igloo gave them a run for the money using their less frequently used kids. 91 was flat and it showed. They dont want to meet in DC I can tell you that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo gave them a run for the money using their less frequently used kids. 91 was flat and it showed. They dont want to meet in DC I can tell you that

Sorry couldn't let this one go. I have good friends with kids on both teams. Some kids never saw the field in that game for either team, just the way it is. 91 and Igloo both played to win. If you believe anything else you are kidding yourself. if you are an actual Igloo parent making the statement than that is just sad.

Over at halftime. OVER. It only gets worse from here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo gave them a run for the money using their less frequently used kids. 91 was flat and it showed. They dont want to meet in DC I can tell you that

Sorry couldn't let this one go. I have good friends with kids on both teams. Some kids never saw the field in that game for either team, just the way it is. 91 and Igloo both played to win. If you believe anything else you are kidding yourself. if you are an actual Igloo parent making the statement than that is just sad.

If 91 2025 lived up to the brand, they should have been able to clear the bench against Igloo, not shorten it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo gave them a run for the money using their less frequently used kids. 91 was flat and it showed. They dont want to meet in DC I can tell you that

Sorry couldn't let this one go. I have good friends with kids on both teams. Some kids never saw the field in that game for either team, just the way it is. 91 and Igloo both played to win. If you believe anything else you are kidding yourself. if you are an actual Igloo parent making the statement than that is just sad.

If 91 2025 lived up to the brand, they should have been able to clear the bench against Igloo, not shorten it.

Over at halftime

91 survived.... Barley. Igloo D stifled them in 2nd half. If Igloo had an offense it would have been theirs for the taking. 91 should change their name to 50...as in 50% Because they only play 1/2 of their kids...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Igloo gave them a run for the money using their less frequently used kids. 91 was flat and it showed. They dont want to meet in DC I can tell you that

Sorry couldn't let this one go. I have good friends with kids on both teams. Some kids never saw the field in that game for either team, just the way it is. 91 and Igloo both played to win. If you believe anything else you are kidding yourself. if you are an actual Igloo parent making the statement than that is just sad.

If 91 2025 lived up to the brand, they should have been able to clear the bench against Igloo, not shorten it.

Over at halftime

I still is bothersome that it has become acceptable to parents that your kids don’t play. Is it that important to become the roster and practice against the best kids? I know that is a benefit, but to what extent?

Anyone that believes that the wsyl means something after a team that went 1-4 at the qualifiers advances to the wsyl is a fool , plain and simple .take your time and money and go on a nice vacation rather than waste your time at a tournament where everyone makes it

Some parents are more concerned with wearing their T shirt or using their team logo embroidered umbrella during a downpour. "My son plays for ABC Lax"..... XXX No, he does not. He practices with them and you cut a lot of checks for that "privilege" but he doesnt play. "Gee, thats a cool baseball cap your wearing tho..." CHECK PLEASE!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some parents are more concerned with wearing their T shirt or using their team logo embroidered umbrella during a downpour. "My son plays for ABC Lax"..... XXX No, he does not. He practices with them and you cut a lot of checks for that "privilege" but he doesnt play. "Gee, thats a cool baseball cap your wearing tho..." CHECK PLEASE!!!!

Wait a minute, your team gives you umbrellas? Stop with the nonsense. People could do what they want with their $$. You know the truth -- Johnny doesn't play -- so serious question: Why does it bother you so much that Johnny's father wears the cap? We have to assume your kid "actually plays" with some team. The way you are writing, we'll assume it's not one of the Top 4 or 5 that carry 30 kids. Doesn't matter. That's still great for you and your kid. Wear that baseball cap proudly. College rosters have 50 kids on them. How many actually play? Worry about your own kid, your own wardrobe and stop stressing about other families that have no impact on your personal experience.

So true!! Not sure why people care so much.

Its embarassing and sadly comical nonetheless. Lax on lax sheep! Baaaaaaah! Baaaaaah!

The baaaah sheep guy has to go also!!

What’s up with the regulators goalie dad and the three stooges? It’s like 1,000 pounds of white trash. Maybe if they yelled at the refs more they would win something.

what happened to BBL? not a impressive showing yesterday

At least they played.....Some teams are still licking their wounds from the Qualifier beat downs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what happened to BBL? not a impressive showing yesterday

It was the B team. Regulators lost to 91, but games looked closer than would have thought.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

At least they played.....Some teams are still licking their wounds from the Qualifier beat downs

Did Igloo fold?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what happened to BBL? not a impressive showing yesterday

It was the B team. Regulators lost to 91, but games looked closer than would have thought.

Regulators played zone and slowed it down. That is absolutely the strategy so people think they are almost there. Really, they never had a chance. More embarrassing than having their hopes crushed by 91, they tied their third game and almost went home early.

Why would Igloo fold? They are going to the WSYL silly

nobody is beating 91 this year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

nobody is beating 91 this year

Relax 92 dad , you will be beat. The kid you flew in from Texas and the goalie you brought down can only get you so far . There will be answers for those players and you will lose . Your team is just not that good . So you won a few games , woo hoo . Doesn't mean your unbeatable , you have been beat many times and will be beat again

Originally Posted by Anonymous

nobody is beating 91 this year

Relax 92 dad , you will be beat. The kid you flew in from Texas and the goalie you brought down can only get you so far . There will be answers for those players and you will lose . Your team is just not that good . So you won a few games , woo hoo . Doesn't mean your unbeatable , you have been beat many times and will be beat again

Nobody.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 survived.... Barley. Igloo D stifled them in 2nd half. If Igloo had an offense it would have been theirs for the taking. 91 should change their name to 50...as in 50% Because they only play 1/2 of their kids...

Stifled them, that's too funny. Igloo had no offense so they have to play defense all game. Exactly the reason why they carry 15 defensive specialists. Don't preach about playing half the kids when your starters never left the field. The top programs all have 30+ kids this year, even some of the average ones. WS only allowed 25 so that's a bad deal for the kids left out or injured or maybe not It's a worse deal for the 10 kids who travelled and never saw the field. Happened with all the big programs, so get off your soapbox. If 1/2 of your roster was anything more than practice players, maybe it would have been a contest.

Keep yapping...Big Blue is coming for 91 (if they make it that far). And we wont be so easy on you this time. Pluis you wont have that Marshmellow schedule like you had in Delaware either. You will need to play 3 real games like Igloo did to win our bracket. Igloo held the mighty 91 to 1 goal in the 2nd half. You cant count that on 1 finger...ONE GOAL 91 dad. ninety ONE........I see where you get your name from.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what happened to BBL? not a impressive showing yesterday

It was the B team. Regulators lost to 91, but games looked closer than would have thought.

Regulators played zone and slowed it down. That is absolutely the strategy so people think they are almost there. Really, they never had a chance. More embarrassing than having their hopes crushed by 91, they tied their third game and almost went home early.

Watching the Shocking Blastards play against a zone is pretty comical. It’s been several years since the Regulators used that against them at Laxfest and the 91 “premier” coaches still have trouble solving it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep yapping...Big Blue is coming for 91 (if they make it that far). And we wont be so easy on you this time. Pluis you wont have that Marshmellow schedule like you had in Delaware either. You will need to play 3 real games like Igloo did to win our bracket. Igloo held the mighty 91 to 1 goal in the 2nd half. You cant count that on 1 finger...ONE GOAL 91 dad. ninety ONE........I see where you get your name from.

Big blue? That’s funny.

The ice cubes will have to score to win and that looks like a problem when the popsicles score just 2. Last time I looked the ice shavings had two goals and they were beat by more than double.

It only gets colder for your team from here. Brrrrr

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep yapping...Big Blue is coming for 91 (if they make it that far). And we wont be so easy on you this time. Pluis you wont have that Marshmellow schedule like you had in Delaware either. You will need to play 3 real games like Igloo did to win our bracket. Igloo held the mighty 91 to 1 goal in the 2nd half. You cant count that on 1 finger...ONE GOAL 91 dad. ninety ONE........I see where you get your name from.

BIG POWDER BLUE?

They have also joined the ranks of the "Shiny Helmets" even though that look was popular 3 years ago. .. The "Anti Travel Lacrosse team" at its finest: Paying an upcharge for gear that's been collecting dust in a storage shed for 3 years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep yapping...Big Blue is coming for 91 (if they make it that far). And we wont be so easy on you this time. Pluis you wont have that Marshmellow schedule like you had in Delaware either. You will need to play 3 real games like Igloo did to win our bracket. Igloo held the mighty 91 to 1 goal in the 2nd half. You cant count that on 1 finger...ONE GOAL 91 dad. ninety ONE........I see where you get your name from.

Yeah, but the game is 2 halves. I hope that one of the Igloo kids posted this comment. If this was a parent, it's really, really sad. Parents talking to each other like they're actually playing. And am I missing something Igloo kid / parent? You (or your kid's team) beat Express North, Regulators (only beat Legacy) and Legacy (didn't win any) to win. How is that any different than Marshmellow 91 schedule? There were weak teams and a few strong teams that were set up to meet on Sunday, and it worked out that way. It was actually set up perfectly on both sides.

So these tournaments are set up so certain teams win/advance?

It works both ways. How would the lesser teams feel having to play Igloo, 91 and Express? Instead, a team like Regulators gets to play Legacy, Express North and one difficult game vs Igloo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what happened to BBL? not a impressive showing yesterday

It was the B team. Regulators lost to 91, but games looked closer than would have thought.

Regulators played zone and slowed it down. That is absolutely the strategy so people think they are almost there. Really, they never had a chance. More embarrassing than having their hopes crushed by 91, they tied their third game and almost went home early.

Watching the Shocking Blastards play against a zone is pretty comical. It’s been several years since the Regulators used that against them at Laxfest and the 91 “premier” coaches still have trouble solving it.

So true. Most of us arm chair quarterbacks could have figured out a better scheme than what they ran with no success. Give regulators credit, they aren't very talented but well coached.

91 unbeatable, prob 15-20 top D1 prospects

Originally Posted by Anonymous

what happened to BBL? not a impressive showing yesterday

It was the B team. Regulators lost to 91, but games looked closer than would have thought.

Regulators played zone and slowed it down. That is absolutely the strategy so people think they are almost there. Really, they never had a chance. More embarrassing than having their hopes crushed by 91, they tied their third game and almost went home early.

Watching the Shocking Blastards play against a zone is pretty comical. It’s been several years since the Regulators used that against them at Laxfest and the 91 “premier” coaches still have trouble solving it.

So true. Most of us arm chair quarterbacks could have figured out a better scheme than what they ran with no success. Give regulators credit, they aren't very talented but well coached.

They Lost

Great coaching is getting the most out of the players you have. Your players getting better. Your players learning the game. Saying they lost, means you know nothing about sports.

Not a lot of GREAT coaching out there. Unfortunate.

No, tournaments are not set up that certain teams win/advance, It's set up to not dilute the tournament. It's set up like all NCAA tournaments. If you are a lower ceded team (you are an underdog), you are given a chance to compete. Play well and you advance, if not you go home. That's how the best teams make it to the championship whether you are a top cede or a lower cede. The top teams are ceded because they have winning records!
Two things to remember: Anyone can be beat on any given day and Everyone loves and underdog!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching is getting the most out of the players you have. Your players getting better. Your players learning the game. Saying they lost, means you know nothing about sports.

They lost. I know sports are judged by winning and losing. I’m told that winning means you are better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching is getting the most out of the players you have. Your players getting better. Your players learning the game. Saying they lost, means you know nothing about sports.

They lost. I know sports are judged by winning and losing. I’m told that winning means you are better.

The point is winning doesn't mean much today. (great looking "WSYL qualifier" caps BTW) Losing games today but learning to play the right way will help when it actually matters. And then these kids will get better education, so they will know that sports aren't always judged by the final score.

Team can be better. Yes. The conversation was coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching is getting the most out of the players you have. Your players getting better. Your players learning the game. Saying they lost, means you know nothing about sports.

They lost. I know sports are judged by winning and losing. I’m told that winning means you are better.

I read that somewhere too.

However, this year at the WSYL, they're changing to an equitable outcome for the tournament. It seems that in years past, some teams where disadvantaged because they are from non-lacrosse areas. This year, when any team gets ahead by more than a goal, they will have to split that goal with the other team. That may sound like communism, but your ears and brain are deceiving you. It's equitable. Just equitable.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching is getting the most out of the players you have. Your players getting better. Your players learning the game. Saying they lost, means you know nothing about sports.

They lost. I know sports are judged by winning and losing. I’m told that winning means you are better.

The point is winning doesn't mean much today. (great looking "WSYL qualifier" caps BTW) Losing games today but learning to play the right way will help when it actually matters. And then these kids will get better education, so they will know that sports aren't always judged by the final score.

I’m still picking up this sports thing, so glad for your help. But I think after some research that winning matters (just a little) and winning teams are often determined by who scores the most. Research from MIT and Princeton also shows that players on winning teams often are recognized as “winners”. Additionally “winners” typically get more opportunities for a better education than the valiant, non winners.

One last thing that I have learned is that the final score is usually very important. Just saying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching is getting the most out of the players you have. Your players getting better. Your players learning the game. Saying they lost, means you know nothing about sports.

They lost. I know sports are judged by winning and losing. I’m told that winning means you are better.

I read that somewhere too.

However, this year at the WSYL, they're changing to an equitable outcome for the tournament. It seems that in years past, some teams where disadvantaged because they are from non-lacrosse areas. This year, when any team gets ahead by more than a goal, they will have to split that goal with the other team. That may sound like communism, but your ears and brain are deceiving you. It's equitable. Just equitable.

This is why I enjoy reading these posts when I'm in a meeting. As Kreischer says, someone has to raise the snowflakes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not a lot of GREAT coaching out there. Unfortunate.

Exactly. That is why they took 30 kids, didn't give refunds and jacked up the prices.

Research from MIT and Princeton.Lol. Obviously you didn’t go to those schools. You can’t follow the point. I’ll try one more time. A team with great players can win a lacrosse games with an 18 year old female tennis coach who can’t speak English. Do you understand that or no. The topic was great coaching. Great coaching is what was said earlier. Getting the most out of the players you have. Kids improving and getting better. Getting them playing at a higher level than they thought they could. Teaching them, motivating them. Always being early for practice and not missing every third or fourth practice. Caring about your actual players and not just their parents tuition checks. This is the guy I want my kids to play for. This is the type of coach who is worth every cent. So the he lost to me means nothing. Hope this clears the point up for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great coaching is getting the most out of the players you have. Your players getting better. Your players learning the game. Saying they lost, means you know nothing about sports.

They lost. I know sports are judged by winning and losing. I’m told that winning means you are better.

The point is winning doesn't mean much today. (great looking "WSYL qualifier" caps BTW) Losing games today but learning to play the right way will help when it actually matters. And then these kids will get better education, so they will know that sports aren't always judged by the final score.

I’m still picking up this sports thing, so glad for your help. But I think after some research that winning matters (just a little) and winning teams are often determined by who scores the most. Research from MIT and Princeton also shows that players on winning teams often are recognized as “winners”. Additionally “winners” typically get more opportunities for a better education than the valiant, non winners.

One last thing that I have learned is that the final score is usually very important. Just saying.

Your kid could be a winner today, because he had the biggest kids on his team (or whatever the edge is) when it makes absolutely no difference. I'd rather my kid be a winner 3 years from now because he had better coaching. Just saying.

End of day your kid's paths in life wont be determined by kiddie lacrosse...Hope they are getting good grades...Just sayin

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Research from MIT and Princeton.Lol. Obviously you didn’t go to those schools. You can’t follow the point. I’ll try one more time. A team with great players can win a lacrosse games with an 18 year old female tennis coach who can’t speak English. Do you understand that or no. The topic was great coaching. Great coaching is what was said earlier. Getting the most out of the players you have. Kids improving and getting better. Getting them playing at a higher level than they thought they could. Teaching them, motivating them. Always being early for practice and not missing every third or fourth practice. Caring about your actual players and not just their parents tuition checks. This is the guy I want my kids to play for. This is the type of coach who is worth every cent. So the he lost to me means nothing. Hope this clears the point up for you.

Great coaches usually win from what i can gather. There is a guy named Belli .... something or other... oh I don’t know. Let’s see, hmmm great coaches that are 1-4 hmmmmm. Nope, can’t come up with one. I think folks would go with the one with more wins. Yup, winning is better, I’ve decided, most definitely. Yup winners!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

End of day your kid's paths in life wont be determined by kiddie lacrosse...Hope they are getting good grades...Just sayin

Only if they have ok grades and a coach that cares for them and they learn that the score doesn’t matter that much if they are learning.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Research from MIT and Princeton.Lol. Obviously you didn’t go to those schools. You can’t follow the point. I’ll try one more time. A team with great players can win a lacrosse games with an 18 year old female tennis coach who can’t speak English. Do you understand that or no. The topic was great coaching. Great coaching is what was said earlier. Getting the most out of the players you have. Kids improving and getting better. Getting them playing at a higher level than they thought they could. Teaching them, motivating them. Always being early for practice and not missing every third or fourth practice. Caring about your actual players and not just their parents tuition checks. This is the guy I want my kids to play for. This is the type of coach who is worth every cent. So the he lost to me means nothing. Hope this clears the point up for you.

Great coaches usually win from what i can gather. There is a guy named Belli .... something or other... oh I don’t know. Let’s see, hmmm great coaches that are 1-4 hmmmmm. Nope, can’t come up with one. I think folks would go with the one with more wins. Yup, winning is better, I’ve decided, most definitely. Yup winners!

Just for fun -- Bill Bellicheck was 6-10 his first year as a head coach. He was 5-11 his first year coaching in New England. It's a good thing for Pats fans everywhere that you weren't running the team. Regulators are a year in and have a great coach. And Belli... something didn't look nearly as good after the guy Bra... something decided to take his talent elsewhere. BTW...are you still talking about 14 year olds? Winning over coaching? Really? I hope you are a 14 year old. Parents should know better.

Probably a kid. Sounds like a kid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 unbeatable, prob 15-20 top D1 prospects

Mixed Nuts has twice as many! AND they have great coaches! High Pitch Eric & Fat, bald and sweaty scoff at zone defenses!

Wasnt mixed nuts like 7 years ago? Move on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Research from MIT and Princeton.Lol. Obviously you didn’t go to those schools. You can’t follow the point. I’ll try one more time. A team with great players can win a lacrosse games with an 18 year old female tennis coach who can’t speak English. Do you understand that or no. The topic was great coaching. Great coaching is what was said earlier. Getting the most out of the players you have. Kids improving and getting better. Getting them playing at a higher level than they thought they could. Teaching them, motivating them. Always being early for practice and not missing every third or fourth practice. Caring about your actual players and not just their parents tuition checks. This is the guy I want my kids to play for. This is the type of coach who is worth every cent. So the he lost to me means nothing. Hope this clears the point up for you.

Great coaches usually win from what i can gather. There is a guy named Belli .... something or other... oh I don’t know. Let’s see, hmmm great coaches that are 1-4 hmmmmm. Nope, can’t come up with one. I think folks would go with the one with more wins. Yup, winning is better, I’ve decided, most definitely. Yup winners!

Just for fun -- Bill Bellicheck was 6-10 his first year as a head coach. He was 5-11 his first year coaching in New England. It's a good thing for Pats fans everywhere that you weren't running the team. Regulators are a year in and have a great coach. And Belli... something didn't look nearly as good after the guy Bra... something decided to take his talent elsewhere. BTW...are you still talking about 14 year olds? Winning over coaching? Really? I hope you are a 14 year old. Parents should know better.

6-10 or 5-11.... both better than 1-4. But I did not say fire the coach. Someone has to coach up the teams that fill out the brackets.Winners attract other winners. Moral victories and all that other mumbo jumbo are crutches you are grasping for because they lost and were not competitive. Nope, I think winners have better coaching than the “I’m losing but learning gang”.

Yup, I’m still going with the winners. Not the whiners.

Son go play with your Xbox. Yup.

If you are referencing 91 Maryland then I agree with you.

Any new 14 yr old lax developments over the weekend? Anyone beat someone else at a playdate? Anyone bring down an off age kid? No parent fist fights?

Is 8th grade too late to change travel programs? I'm not talking about the A and AA teams. Tier down.

My son has been on his current team for years, starts and plays a ton, but there are some things happening with the team that we're not happy with. Heading into high school next year, I'm wondering if he should just fight through, keep playing a lot and getting better. Aren't most rosters pretty set by now?

If he’s a good player someone will find a roster spot for him don’t worry.

Finding a roster spot and playing a lot are 2 different things. What is happening at your club that you don’t like? Can you be more specific?

The inconsistent practice schedule is the biggest thing. Other teams are practicing way more than we are. And practice seems to conflict with school team stuff when it does happen.

Great brackets for this weekend at Blatant. So thankful to be on LI. Done with going upstate and Jersey to play Long Island teams. Hoping the rest of tourney organizers follow.

which team are you referring to that you're not happy with?

Big tournament this weekend... AA teams..... 91, Express, Rebels, Igloo, Rush, Regulators..... Probably in that order.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

which team are you referring to that you're not happy with?

I'm not going to say which team it is.

Have to give credit to blatant guys , scheduling 2025 against 91 and express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have to give credit to blatant guys , scheduling 2025 against 91 and express.

Give it time. That will change

There's only 6 teams...gotta play someone...Better/easier to justify losing to 91 and Exp than to lose to Forcegloo and In-No-Rush

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have to give credit to blatant guys , scheduling 2025 against 91 and express.

Give it time. That will change

It might have because 91 isn’t playing Express. If they were scheduled prior. Kinda from a seeding perspective, it makes sense and I would schedule it that way. On the other hand if a club called and requested a switch, somebody needs to realize it’s 8th grade lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Great brackets for this weekend at Blatant. So thankful to be on LI. Done with going upstate and Jersey to play Long Island teams. Hoping the rest of tourney organizers follow.

Upstate and Jersey... try going to DE and MD to play teams worse than those from the next town over. That's an effective use of time and resources.

What team do the regulator express kids play for?

What does that even mean?

Tryout fleecing season is upon us. $95 to pay for the privilege of trying out for a team we've been on for years. Who else thinks this is not right. just a few years ago it was $40 or 50. Annoyed! And I can guarantee that roster numbers don't reset to normal pre-covid levels of 20-22 players

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What team do the regulator express kids play for?

Regulators are Roar not Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryout fleecing season is upon us. $95 to pay for the privilege of trying out for a team we've been on for years. Who else thinks this is not right. just a few years ago it was $40 or 50. Annoyed! And I can guarantee that roster numbers don't reset to normal pre-covid levels of 20-22 players

Rebels giving big discounts to all returning players and applying towards tuition. They seem to be the only program that gets it lately.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Have to give credit to blatant guys , scheduling 2025 against 91 and express.

One organization that doesn't give themselves cakes walks. They keep it fair for the most part. Just excited to get back on the fields, any teams missing players due to high school??

Is 91 shock flying in the kid from Texas and bringing down the Wolfpack goalie for this tournament like they did at the qualifiers,?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is 91 shock flying in the kid from Texas and bringing down the Wolfpack goalie for this tournament like they did at the qualifiers,?

Is the qualifying tournament age-based? I think it was.

Who cares? As long as the kids ae playing. Chances are , 91 dont even need the Texas kid or the goalie to walk thru this weekend. Everyone should be focused on tryouts, especially since this season hasnt even begun.... Thats important

I AM LOOKING TO GET A TANK TEE SHIRT

You can get that for $50, after you register for tryouts. Bring your checkbook sir

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is 91 shock flying in the kid from Texas and bringing down the Wolfpack goalie for this tournament like they did at the qualifiers,?

If they played in the qualifier they are eligible, You can start whining about it now.

Stop your drama and have your kids prepared. Make it a non-issue. If 91 starts losing, that kid eventually rips up his plane ticket. So quit complaining and have your kids better prepared.

The “kid” from Texas is actually from New York and has played on that team for years. Literally years. A great player that 91 helped develop. If he played for any other team it wouldn’t be right. Just get over it.

Doesn't matter if the Easter Bunny plays for 91... Its the Top 2 teams and then "Everybody else". Everyone already knows the outcome. The real questions are:

Who will go 0-3?
How will the coaches justify it to the irate parents?
Which coach will start screaming at the Refs first and embarassing himself and his team?
What color will the championship t shirts be?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't matter if the Easter Bunny plays for 91... Its the Top 2 teams and then "Everybody else". Everyone already knows the outcome. The real questions are:

Who will go 0-3?
How will the coaches justify it to the irate parents?
Which coach will start screaming at the Refs first and embarassing himself and his team?
What color will the championship t shirts be?

Blue...wait, no red! Please be red!!!

Nah. I wanna see whos gonna run the same stuff, that is failing miserably, and then make no in-game adjustments. Then blame the Refs. Also cant wait to see some of the man-ups...or lack thereof. Some of these teams have worst man ups I have ever seen but they still dont change it up. The top teams use all of their parts and if something isnt working they make changes. But then again, they win

Coaches may change things up, but they are not changing up their favorites. Every team has a few. Every kid and parent knows who they are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Doesn't matter if the Easter Bunny plays for 91... Its the Top 2 teams and then "Everybody else". Everyone already knows the outcome. The real questions are:

Who will go 0-3?
How will the coaches justify it to the irate parents?
Which coach will start screaming at the Refs first and embarassing himself and his team?
What color will the championship t shirts be?

Blue...wait, no red! Please be red!!!

The really real questions are;
Who questions the sanity of going to WSYL after going 1-2 or 0-3?
How much out of pocket will you be asked to contribute to send your team to DC after going 1-2 or 0-3?
Now that tryouts are announced how many kids will want to jump ship after you go 1-2 0r 0-3?
Is going 2-1 and not making the final considered a moral victory?

These coaches are married to certain kids when the system clearly isnt working . I can already see it coming this weekend: A few of the Tier 2 "AA teams" are 1 trick ponies.... Everyone knows who is getting the ball and what they are going to try to do with it . I have my counter ready for the number of "Good Takes" I hear after a kid shoots it over the net with nobody at X. But hey, if it works every 1 out of 100x then it must be good....Right? Check please...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These coaches are married to certain kids when the system clearly isnt working . I can already see it coming this weekend: A few of the Tier 2 "AA teams" are 1 trick ponies.... Everyone knows who is getting the ball and what they are going to try to do with it . I have my counter ready for the number of "Good Takes" I hear after a kid shoots it over the net with nobody at X. But hey, if it works every 1 out of 100x then it must be good....Right? Check please...

Sidearm

Man, lax is back. Predicting a huge upset Sunday.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man, lax is back. Predicting a huge upset Sunday.

REGULATORS!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Man, lax is back. Predicting a huge upset Sunday.

REGULATORS!

If at first you don’t succeed?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryout fleecing season is upon us. $95 to pay for the privilege of trying out for a team we've been on for years. Who else thinks this is not right. just a few years ago it was $40 or 50. Annoyed! And I can guarantee that roster numbers don't reset to normal pre-covid levels of 20-22 players

Rebels giving big discounts to all returning players and applying towards tuition. They seem to be the only program that gets it lately.

That’s because the Rebels Org is a joke. Who would want their kids playing for those clowns.

Wow , regulators only lost by 1 goal
I guess the kid from Texas and the Wolfpack goalie couldn't make it to this one .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow , regulators only lost by 1 goal
I guess the kid from Texas and the Wolfpack goalie couldn't make it to this one .

Did they win?

Or another experience in playing the right way?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

These coaches are married to certain kids when the system clearly isnt working . I can already see it coming this weekend: A few of the Tier 2 "AA teams" are 1 trick ponies.... Everyone knows who is getting the ball and what they are going to try to do with it . I have my counter ready for the number of "Good Takes" I hear after a kid shoots it over the net with nobody at X. But hey, if it works every 1 out of 100x then it must be good....Right? Check please...

Sidearm

Sidearm from 30 yards out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow , regulators only lost by 1 goal
I guess the kid from Texas and the Wolfpack goalie couldn't make it to this one .

Did they win?

Or another experience in playing the right way?

They must have learned a lot between the regular schedule and the Championship. It must be a special learning experience to give up a goal when you are 6-4 man up.

Interesting shift in the top of LI for this group. Express highly skilled, but lacks some size. 91 and Igloo have been rising over the last year or so and kinda sit at the top.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting shift in the top of LI for this group. Express highly skilled, but lacks some size. 91 and Igloo have been rising over the last year or so and kinda sit at the top.

express will be back. CoachC recruiting and best player back soon.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting shift in the top of LI for this group. Express highly skilled, but lacks some size. 91 and Igloo have been rising over the last year or so and kinda sit at the top.

It looks like COVID is going to cost Express dearly. They still have the 2026 team to keep them from coming home empty handed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Tryout fleecing season is upon us. $95 to pay for the privilege of trying out for a team we've been on for years. Who else thinks this is not right. just a few years ago it was $40 or 50. Annoyed! And I can guarantee that roster numbers don't reset to normal pre-covid levels of 20-22 players

Rebels giving big discounts to all returning players and applying towards tuition. They seem to be the only program that gets it lately.

That’s because the Rebels Org is a joke. Who would want their kids playing for those clowns.

So much for the Regulator vs Rebel showdown. Rebels aren't even in the same class. They run a nice tournament though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting shift in the top of LI for this group. Express highly skilled, but lacks some size. 91 and Igloo have been rising over the last year or so and kinda sit at the top.

It looks like COVID is going to cost Express dearly. They still have the 2026 team to keep them from coming home empty handed.

I think they are still a favorite. A little tough for them to break down the defense as they rely heavily on the dodge and the size hurts them for now, but if they bury their looks, they’ll be fine. They are good enough on defense and they have solid goalie play.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow , regulators only lost by 1 goal
I guess the kid from Texas and the Wolfpack goalie couldn't make it to this one .

Did they win?

Or another experience in playing the right way?

As a parent, for the roughly $4000 price difference per year, I'll take the one goal loss..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow , regulators only lost by 1 goal
I guess the kid from Texas and the Wolfpack goalie couldn't make it to this one .

Did they win?

Or another experience in playing the right way?

As a parent, for the roughly $4000 price difference per year, I'll take the one goal loss..

There was never a 1 goal loss. Tourney Machine posted the wrong score initially.

Did you see the championship game? 91 up 12-3...

91 is the Favorite unless Exp brings in older kids as the others did. Regulators did a fine job of fine-tuning their roster this weekend with kids that were shaving and they didn't even have to give them team helmets. The only clear takeaway was there was one team that was really bad. Why would there be such a gap?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is the Favorite unless Exp brings in older kids as the others did. Regulators did a fine job of fine-tuning their roster this weekend with kids that were shaving and they didn't even have to give them team helmets. The only clear takeaway was there was one team that was really bad. Why would there be such a gap?

What teams brought in older kids? I feel like this is always the excuse tossed around by loosing teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is the Favorite unless Exp brings in older kids as the others did. Regulators did a fine job of fine-tuning their roster this weekend with kids that were shaving and they didn't even have to give them team helmets. The only clear takeaway was there was one team that was really bad. Why would there be such a gap?

Absolutely untrue. Regulators same roster as always.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 is the Favorite unless Exp brings in older kids as the others did. Regulators did a fine job of fine-tuning their roster this weekend with kids that were shaving and they didn't even have to give them team helmets. The only clear takeaway was there was one team that was really bad. Why would there be such a gap?

Absolutely untrue. Regulators same roster as always.

Same roster, another easy schedule, result, two losses and got smoked when it mattered. SMOKED!

Smoked is what happened to the Red team. They couldnt get 1 win. The kids on other teams were calling out their 1 play for God's sake! . At least Regulators were competitive and made it to the finals . Yes, they took a beat of a beatdown that game but the performance overall for the day was admirable. In-No-rush was even competitive even though they went 0-3. A nice day of lacrosse that cleared up the lax landscape

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smoked is what happened to the Red team. They couldnt get 1 win. The kids on other teams were calling out their 1 play for God's sake! . At least Regulators were competitive and made it to the finals . Yes, they took a beat of a beatdown that game but the performance overall for the day was admirable. In-No-rush was even competitive even though they went 0-3. A nice day of lacrosse that cleared up the lax landscape

Truth is 91 seems to be on top mountain now and its well deserved, even if they have a few question marks of age. Seems like a lot of teams around the east coast do the same thing. Express is still great, Igloo has climbed into the conversation. The Regulators are for real and proved their spot and deserve to be in the WSYL. Rush is close to that next tier and Rebels have some work to do.

Looks to be a great competitive summer of lax on LI. Which in my opinion is great. It's never fun when one team is blowing everyone out...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting shift in the top of LI for this group. Express highly skilled, but lacks some size. 91 and Igloo have been rising over the last year or so and kinda sit at the top.

express will be back. CoachC recruiting and best player back soon.

Back when?? WSYL rosters cannot be changed. It's still 91 than everyone else. Yes they had some close games but the outcome was never in doubt.

There was some real classless behavior by a lot of coaches in the 2025 and 2026 divisions. You want to teach the kids to play the right way yet act scream like absolute lunatics' towards the refs. The igloo guy is going to have a heart attack and the 2026 team in gold uniforms should have their entire staff removed. Coaches try to lead by example this is youth lacrosse.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Smoked is what happened to the Red team. They couldnt get 1 win. The kids on other teams were calling out their 1 play for God's sake! . At least Regulators were competitive and made it to the finals . Yes, they took a beat of a beatdown that game but the performance overall for the day was admirable. In-No-rush was even competitive even though they went 0-3. A nice day of lacrosse that cleared up the lax landscape

Truth is 91 seems to be on top mountain now and its well deserved, even if they have a few question marks of age. Seems like a lot of teams around the east coast do the same thing. Express is still great, Igloo has climbed into the conversation. The Regulators are for real and proved their spot and deserve to be in the WSYL. Rush is close to that next tier and Rebels have some work to do.

Looks to be a great competitive summer of lax on LI. Which in my opinion is great. It's never fun when one team is blowing everyone out...

You sound way too level-headed to be part of this forum. Refreshing to see.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Interesting shift in the top of LI for this group. Express highly skilled, but lacks some size. 91 and Igloo have been rising over the last year or so and kinda sit at the top.

express will be back. CoachC recruiting and best player back soon.

Back when?? WSYL rosters cannot be changed. It's still 91 than everyone else. Yes they had some close games but the outcome was never in doubt.

There was some real classless behavior by a lot of coaches in the 2025 and 2026 divisions. You want to teach the kids to play the right way yet act scream like absolute lunatics' towards the refs. The igloo guy is going to have a heart attack and the 2026 team in gold uniforms should have their entire staff removed. Coaches try to lead by example this is youth lacrosse.

Ya know what seems to be consistent is kids act like parents. 91 Parents should be teaching their kids to act like champions not try and prove things by trying to bully people. It's simple. 91 parents don't know how to act yet on this forum because they've been second best for so long. Now that they've finally figured a way to beat Coach C at his own game by adding questionable age kids on their roster they simply don't know how to act, so in turn your kids don't know how to act.

All the years on this forum we rarely hear from Express parents because they were too busy proving it every week on the field. Now hopefully 91 parents will do the same..

Just shut up and play...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

[quote=Anonymous]Interesting shift in the top of LI for this group. Express highly skilled, but lacks some size. 91 and Igloo have been rising over the last year or so and kinda sit at the top.

express will be back. CoachC recruiting and best player back soon.

Back when?? WSYL rosters cannot be changed. It's still 91 than everyone else. Yes they had some close games but the outcome was never in doubt.

WSYL is just an overpriced tournament. There is lacrosse after 7/3. The Express team is just on the wrong side of puberty at the moment. I agree they’ll be back.

Above guy nailed it...They looked like 5th graders but their skills are still there. Once puberty kicks in or they add a kid, or 10, they will be fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Above guy nailed it...They looked like 5th graders but their skills are still there. Once puberty kicks in or they add a kid, or 10, they will be fine

Very True, there is only so much a Skilled player can do that hasn't hit puberty against kids that are a year into puberty swinging sticks like Excalibur... They can break a pre pub kids leg the way they slash on every play. But hey if the refs don't want to call it then I guess keep doing it. At the end of the day Skill will win out its simply an in between year... Enjoy your run

The six teams that played this weekend are the only AA teams left on the island. 91 appears to be the strongest of the group. Express is still very good but puberty kicked in and the other five teams are bigger, stronger and more athletic. Igloo and Regulators have both improved and are very solid teams. Rush/Rebels are still in this group but the gap between the top four and the bottom two is pretty big right now. I would enjoy watching these six teams play each other every weekend, making each other better and keep the out of state travel to a minimum. Gas prices are going up, traffic stinks and we already have some of the best beaches right here.

Regulators most improved and RUSH is gaining ground. Rebels? Not sure they are "AA"... Did you have a chance to play against them this weekend? They seem to be in disarray.

Watching them play. They just don’t pass the ball like the other teams.

I don't understand all the regulators are most improved talk... a month ago they went 1-4 at the qualifiers , beating Legacy, who beat no one. Then they beat Rebels and Rush and are top 4? Come on....

Well having 14,15 practices over the month, going over mistakes from 5 weeks ago, they look much improved. They change things up. They practice going over mistakes they made. The word is called coaching. Some teams are fortunate to have great coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I don't understand all the regulators are most improved talk... a month ago they went 1-4 at the qualifiers , beating Legacy, who beat no one. Then they beat Rebels and Rush and are top 4? Come on....

They played well yesterday and have a great coach. Not a bad situation. It’s all good, it’s just lax and should be fun. I still sit in disbelief regarding the lack playing time on these teams.I’ll never understand that. HS next year, your son needs to be on the best team that’s gives him the most amount of run. Otherwise it’s a waste iMHO.

Wolf pack goalie was there.

They should call them the 91 slashers. That is all they know how to do. No college coach will tollerate the slashing. Good luck finding a college when you get older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Watching them play. They just don’t pass the ball like the other teams.

Ask the players from PSU about how important ball movement is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should call them the 91 slashers. That is all they know how to do. No college coach will tollerate the slashing. Good luck finding a college when you get older.

easy mommy. Your team was man up most of the game. maybe work on that offense. Btw, your team loves to create drama after the whistle. Must be following instructions from the tough guys on the sidelines.

they will be fine with college coaches, they are all high level D1

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should call them the 91 slashers. That is all they know how to do. No college coach will tollerate the slashing. Good luck finding a college when you get older.

It seems that it’s ok to slash when you score on a 6-4 man down. It’s downright disrespectful, dirty, filthy.

And based on the table that shows the standings, they know how to do one thing in addition to slashing, thats score goals. Lots of them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should call them the 91 slashers. That is all they know how to do. No college coach will tollerate the slashing. Good luck finding a college when you get older.

easy mommy. Your team was man up most of the game. maybe work on that offense. Btw, your team loves to create drama after the whistle. Must be following instructions from the tough guys on the sidelines.

Ha, ha, ha definitely the first post was a mommy post! Maybe a grandma. The 91 team gave out a physical and mental beating in the final. Not going to fix that with hugs, ice cream cones and crying about how dirty they are.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well having 14,15 practices over the month, going over mistakes from 5 weeks ago, they look much improved. They change things up. They practice going over mistakes they made. The word is called coaching. Some teams are fortunate to have great coaching.

Ok thanks Regulators parent. You'll still finish in the bottom half at WSYL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

They should call them the 91 slashers. That is all they know how to do. No college coach will tollerate the slashing. Good luck finding a college when you get older.

Stop being so salty. The slashing get worse not better in HS and College. Until the rules are properly enforced or changes made it is what it is. They took out the contact big hits from the 80's and 90's, so I'm sure slashing is next.

Slasher slasher boo boo boo boo!

Slashing, Bigger kids, Home filed advantage, nicer jerseys, etc. Doesn't matter. The results spoke for themselves:

- 91 is the top dog
-Express in purgatory
-Igloo looks better than they are due to weak competition
-Regulators: Improving daily but still inconsistent
-Rush: Still a notch below but play hard
-Rebels: Shouldnt even be discussed in same category as the others

It is just the way it is and subject to change. But that is all dependent on the programs and what changes they make, if any.

wasn't there some talk after the qualifiers about rebels and regulators playing each other to see who's better? i guess that was settled on sunday. pretty one sided if you ask me

That wasnt even a game. Baseball vs wiffleball, Tennis vs ping pong, Football vs 2 hand touch, Hyundai vs Corvette, get the point?

Having a great coach and a good team is fine by me. I know people that would do backflips to be in this situation. Some friends of mine are counting the days until season ends. They wouldn’t go back to their clubs for free. Awful coaching. Lack of practices. Disorganized. Politics. Some teams are so knee deep into the politics, they have become an embarrassment.

There is a big difference between yelling and coaching... Heck, I saw one coach quit on his team during one of the games. That was pathetic. That's why that team is in total shambles. Those kids have no interest in playing hard for that guy. And its monkey see-monkey do. Coach quits = team quits. SAD is another word that comes to mind.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they will be fine with college coaches, they are all high level D1

No they’re not

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Slashing, Bigger kids, Home filed advantage, nicer jerseys, etc. Doesn't matter. The results spoke for themselves:

- 91 is the top dog
-Express in purgatory
-Igloo looks better than they are due to weak competition
-Regulators: Improving daily but still inconsistent
-Rush: Still a notch below but play hard
-Rebels: Shouldnt even be discussed in same category as the others

It is just the way it is and subject to change. But that is all dependent on the programs and what changes they make, if any.

91 - agree.
Express - still good but admit some teams are getting better
Igloo played 2 of the 3 toughest teams going in, stop hating.
Regulators - played the weakest schedule got to the finals because of it and SHOULD NOT BE IN WSYL. THEY DIDN’T QUALIFY they are an “after the fact” selection
Rush - good and will grow
Rebels - train wreck

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Slashing, Bigger kids, Home filed advantage, nicer jerseys, etc. Doesn't matter. The results spoke for themselves:

- 91 is the top dog
-Express in purgatory
-Igloo looks better than they are due to weak competition
-Regulators: Improving daily but still inconsistent
-Rush: Still a notch below but play hard
-Rebels: Shouldnt even be discussed in same category as the others

It is just the way it is and subject to change. But that is all dependent on the programs and what changes they make, if any.

91 - agree.
Express - still good but admit some teams are getting better
Igloo played 2 of the 3 toughest teams going in, stop hating.
Regulators - played the weakest schedule got to the finals because of it and SHOULD NOT BE IN WSYL. THEY DIDN’T QUALIFY they are an “after the fact” selection
Rush - good and will grow
Rebels - train wreck

Ugh! This guy again. Get over it. Move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Having a great coach and a good team is fine by me. I know people that would do backflips to be in this situation. Some friends of mine are counting the days until season ends. They wouldn’t go back to their clubs for free. Awful coaching. Lack of practices. Disorganized. Politics. Some teams are so knee deep into the politics, they have become an embarrassment.

Stop it with the great coach blabbering. It’s embarrassing, please stop.
Does JDRF still exist?

It’s blabbering if untrue. Being that’s it’s true it’s not blabbering. I’ll take great coach, good team any day of the week. I didn’t say great team. I said good team. Also true.

Dude, coaching makes a difference. It shows...The teams with better coaching excelled this past weekend. The teams that didnt? Look at the standings. Having kids that are shaving helps too but they still need to be coached up

Originally Posted by Anonymous

they will be fine with college coaches, they are all high level D1

No they’re not

High level D1, are you high. Most of the kids you now at u14 will never play lacrosse again after HS. Even fewer will go to any program at college ,even fewer will play for one of the D1 programs, even fewer will play for a top 25 school. Almost NONE of them will play for a top 5 program. Reality check.

ha save this post They are at a different level now and that isn't changing. They will be all over the high end D1 programs

Did this guy injure his head putting on his club t-shirt? He's delirious... Who is the "They" that you are referring to? You folks are in for a dose of reality. The majority of the kids you think are fools, now will be getting dominated by the 11th grade. SAVE THIS POST

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude, coaching makes a difference. It shows...The teams with better coaching excelled this past weekend. The teams that didnt? Look at the standings. Having kids that are shaving helps too but they still need to be coached up

Stop the big lie, mediocre coach, managing games to save embarrassment. But you keep telling yourself that the slow down O that they run and the zone D are what these kids need.

Do you want a robot? Or a lacrosse player?

Unleash the kids and let them play, win lose or draw, that would be great coaching.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude, coaching makes a difference. It shows...The teams with better coaching excelled this past weekend. The teams that didnt? Look at the standings. Having kids that are shaving helps too but they still need to be coached up

Stop the big lie, mediocre coach, managing games to save embarrassment. But you keep telling yourself that the slow down O that they run and the zone D are what these kids need.

Do you want a robot? Or a lacrosse player?

Unleash the kids and let them play, win lose or draw, that would be great coaching.

Have you been watching and listening. I have no idea how any of these kids can enjoy playing. Every team has 3 to 5 coaches. Every one of them screaming exactly who should be where and when. They're all robots. Give it to this guy, be here, do that, Johnny is 1, Tommy is the 2. It's maddening. Than when they make a mistake because of all the conflicting stimuli the coach goes berserk.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude, coaching makes a difference. It shows...The teams with better coaching excelled this past weekend. The teams that didnt? Look at the standings. Having kids that are shaving helps too but they still need to be coached up

Stop the big lie, mediocre coach, managing games to save embarrassment. But you keep telling yourself that the slow down O that they run and the zone D are what these kids need.

Do you want a robot? Or a lacrosse player?

Unleash the kids and let them play, win lose or draw, that would be great coaching.

Have you been watching and listening. I have no idea how any of these kids can enjoy playing. Every team has 3 to 5 coaches. Every one of them screaming exactly who should be where and when. They're all robots. Give it to this guy, be here, do that, Johnny is 1, Tommy is the 2. It's maddening. Than when they make a mistake because of all the conflicting stimuli the coach goes berserk.

The winners aren’t making many mistakes. Competition is all the stimuli they need.

Rebels had a bad weekend, but are a Very good team. They have come a long way. Say what u want, but watch it cause they will have a successful summer. By the way last time they beat regulators 8-2.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels had a bad weekend, but are a Very good team. They have come a long way. Say what u want, but watch it cause they will have a successful summer. By the way last time they beat regulators 8-2.

You should’ve stopped after “will have a successful summer.” Why take it another step?...

We played Rush and Rebels last week. We won both games. Both teams were 0 and 3. The Rush game was a battle. The main difference between them is obvious. Rush plays like a team. Rebels well. Everybody knows.

Watching that program, its all on the coaching. Rebels has a lot of good kids. But they dont use them all. And the ones they do use, they use incorrectly. Cant play a full half with the same 3 middies or feeding just 1 kid the ball just so he turns it over. Thats gotta be deflating for their defense. Good kids, poor coaching, summer will be "more of the same" I hope my kids team draws them as they are an automatic W these days. Not trying to be a donk but thats what I saw. Even our kids knew what they were doing. BEFORE THE GAME STARTED!!!

And just like that the Rebels are now in the WSYL. Poof...Magic... See what paying off the right people can get you. Great life lessons for your kids.

I thought the WSYL was a joke to begin with, thank you for completely destroying it by adding a program that went 0-3 on the first day. Congrats 91 now there’s ZERO competition. Get ready for the Green jacket boys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought the WSYL was a joke to begin with, thank you for completely destroying it by adding a program that went 0-3 on the first day. Congrats 91 now there’s ZERO competition. Get ready for the Green jacket boys.

Who backed out that they got added?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I thought the WSYL was a joke to begin with, thank you for completely destroying it by adding a program that went 0-3 on the first day. Congrats 91 now there’s ZERO competition. Get ready for the Green jacket boys.

They went 3-2 on the weekend, so how did they go 0-3 on the first day? SMH.

Funny all the smack is from parents, let the kids play. All you parents are a disappointment to your kids for the way you are going on here. They’re kids ! Get over it and enjoy the game .

EVERYONE knows WSYL is a joke. This just validates it and diminishes the accomplishments of the teams that actually EARNED it. I hope Body By Jake realizes the newly added team is an automatic "W" for whoever plays them and takes that into consideration when making the schedule so it doesnt favor any of the real teams that legitimately qualified.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

EVERYONE knows WSYL is a joke. This just validates it and diminishes the accomplishments of the teams that actually EARNED it. I hope Body By Jake realizes the newly added team is an automatic "W" for whoever plays them and takes that into consideration when making the schedule so it doesn't favor any of the real teams that legitimately qualified.

I hope you really don't think BBJ has anything to do with this event. Aloha Tournaments founded the event with one goal in mind.

What was the goal?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the goal?

The same as every business venture. To earn, grow the business, and build strong athletes.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What was the goal?

The same as every business venture. To earn, grow the business, and build strong athletes.

The goal was to make money from youth sports.

Is Express LI Devils 2025 and new name for Channey's team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Express LI Devils 2025 and new name for Channey's team?

Typo, Einstein

I see in FLG Tourney this weekend that TRUE Blue FLG and Turtles all in B. Why not step up and challenge kids. A is not Loaded.
all 3 of those teams could compete

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Express LI Devils 2025 and new name for Channey's team?

How will CoachC coach the 2025 and 2026 teams at the WSYL? Do they cater to him with no scheduling conflicts?

Predictions who wins NLF this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions who wins NLF this weekend?

None of the on grade teams. That’s easy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions who wins NLF this weekend?

91 & CoachC in finals 91 wins big.

Why ins't Team 91 MD at NLF this weekend with there nearly 17 year olds hiding as eight graders

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why ins't Team 91 MD at NLF this weekend with there nearly 17 year olds hiding as eight graders

Come on are you saying 91MD has 16 year olds on an eighth grade team? No chance.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why ins't Team 91 MD at NLF this weekend with there nearly 17 year olds hiding as eight graders

is this a joke or true?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see in FLG Tourney this weekend that TRUE Blue FLG and Turtles all in B. Why not step up and challenge kids. A is not Loaded.
all 3 of those teams could compete

True Blue had some turnover

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why ins't Team 91 MD at NLF this weekend with there nearly 17 year olds hiding as eight graders

is this a joke or true?

HC kid is a double. Older = Better. Sort of.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Predictions who wins NLF this weekend?

None of the on grade teams. That’s easy.

HHH out of Philly. Loaded with holdbacks. They have a pole who looks like he could play in the ACC now

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is Express LI Devils 2025 and new name for Channey's team?

Typo, Einstein

Devils?? LOL. No. CoachC's team will be playing NLF this weekend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see in FLG Tourney this weekend that TRUE Blue FLG and Turtles all in B. Why not step up and challenge kids. A is not Loaded.
all 3 of those teams could compete

Turtles should 100% be in the A division. It’s the perfect opportunity to take the next step vs that group of teams. This is also how you attract players and show that the team is trending A. I guess they like knowing that they’ll win B bracket. No A player is trying out for a B team.

Agreed. Great point. The only thing I would do different is take what you wrote on here and send it to your coach.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see in FLG Tourney this weekend that TRUE Blue FLG and Turtles all in B. Why not step up and challenge kids. A is not Loaded.
all 3 of those teams could compete

True Blue had some turnover

Could be that Half of TB team plays on Regulators so they are avoiding overlaps in the A Bracket.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why ins't Team 91 MD at NLF this weekend with there nearly 17 year olds hiding as eight graders

is this a joke or true?

HC kid is a double. Older = Better. Sort of.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry you got beat.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why ins't Team 91 MD at NLF this weekend with there nearly 17 year olds hiding as eight graders

is this a joke or true?

HC kid is a double. Older = Better. Sort of.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry you got beat.

We all know, so stop it. Good thing we will see at the WSYL, oh wait, 91MD isn’t showing up. Maybe it’s too far to travel.

The question is why are you worrying about 91? Dont like it? Then beat them. Simple

Ok Dad it’s very simple go beat them. You have no leg to stand on and now that the kids are in HS give up the hold back BS - it’s a level playing field for you now. Oh yeah and by the way the last time I checked the rules are based on your grade and my kid is of age. I always welcomed the teams with hold backs because we played against better competition and we beat them!!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see in FLG Tourney this weekend that TRUE Blue FLG and Turtles all in B. Why not step up and challenge kids. A is not Loaded.
all 3 of those teams could compete

True Blue had some turnover

Could be that Half of TB team plays on Regulators so they are avoiding overlaps in the A Bracket.

Not half but a handful.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see in FLG Tourney this weekend that TRUE Blue FLG and Turtles all in B. Why not step up and challenge kids. A is not Loaded.
all 3 of those teams could compete

True Blue had some turnover

Could be that Half of TB team plays on Regulators so they are avoiding overlaps in the A Bracket.

Not half but a handful.

A joke for the Tournament to call their brackets AA and A -- It's definitely A & B.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why ins't Team 91 MD at NLF this weekend with there nearly 17 year olds hiding as eight graders

is this a joke or true?

HC kid is a double. Older = Better. Sort of.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Sorry you got beat.

We all know, so stop it. Good thing we will see at the WSYL, oh wait, 91MD isn’t showing up. Maybe it’s too far to travel.

Wait. Are we talking WSYL or NLF? Doesn't matter. 91MD would beat you at any tourney. Age based or grade based wouldn't matter. They are just flat out better.

NLF yes, World Series no. If it was true what you are saying they would be going. No airline tickets. No Denver. No I don’t want to spend thousands going across the country. The tournament is a 2 hour drive, maybe less. It’s in Maryland. What more can you ask? So what you should say is they are the best team in NLF. Leave the second part of your sentence out. Tell the truth or say nothing. That’s my motto.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NLF yes, World Series no. If it was true what you are saying they would be going. No airline tickets. No Denver. No I don’t want to spend thousands going across the country. The tournament is a 2 hour drive, maybe less. It’s in Maryland. What more can you ask? So what you should say is they are the best team in NLF. Leave the second part of your sentence out. Tell the truth or say nothing. That’s my motto.

What evidence do you have to assert your claim? Put up or shut up. That's my motto.

They didn’t go to World Series because they are too old. They play 10th grade football, 4 months later 8th grade lacrosse. Ok there Rambo. They choose not to compete in a big tournament in their home state because they can’t. They are too old. Now remain silent. Your giving normal people a headache.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see in FLG Tourney this weekend that TRUE Blue FLG and Turtles all in B. Why not step up and challenge kids. A is not Loaded.
all 3 of those teams could compete

True Blue had some turnover

Could be that Half of TB team plays on Regulators so they are avoiding overlaps in the A Bracket.

Not half but a handful.

A joke for the Tournament to call their brackets AA and A -- It's definitely A & B.

What’s the difference really? The difference should be teams that are their top teams in their club playing clubs 2nd teams that are A teams. True Blue, Turtles and 24. There is three levels. Those brackets could have been set up that way this weekend. Not a complaint, just an observation and these directors should work a little harder on these match ups.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NLF yes, World Series no. If it was true what you are saying they would be going. No airline tickets. No Denver. No I don’t want to spend thousands going across the country. The tournament is a 2 hour drive, maybe less. It’s in Maryland. What more can you ask? So what you should say is they are the best team in NLF. Leave the second part of your sentence out. Tell the truth or say nothing. That’s my motto.

What evidence do you have to assert your claim? Put up or shut up. That's my motto.

They are not at NLF, they are not at WSYL. They are not here, they are not there, they are not anywhere. 91MD does not like green eggs and ham. And there is no more proof needed than their absence. The best team will be identified from those that play.

I didn't even hear about 24 until this weekend. Beat Turtles but got killed by True blue.

Where are they based?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn't even hear about 24 until this weekend. Beat Turtles but got killed by True blue.

Where are they based?

Started 5 years ago or so out of GS and then started and east program in the old Team Long Island stomping ground had a few good teams here and there but nothing consistent grade to grade. It’s an example of several repeats of people picking a club team out of location convenience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I didn't even hear about 24 until this weekend. Beat Turtles but got killed by True blue.

Where are they based?

Started 5 years ago or so out of GS and then started and east program in the old Team Long Island stomping ground had a few good teams here and there but nothing consistent grade to grade. It’s an example of several repeats of people picking a club team out of location convenience.

I only saw a few minutes of one of there games but the attack and defense looked good. Had one good middie but that was it.

There is something to be said for convenience

Good to see to all kids playing on the fields and summer lax kicking off. I will say the one thing I noticed this weekend was how some coaches still think shouting from start to finish of a game actually resonates with the kids. Yes, coaching involves yelling out instructions at times, but some coaches just start at the first whistle and it builds from there.

Who looked good and who didnt? Regulators won and they were missing a lot of kids. What does that say?

Its been the same for every age group, people wonder where all these madlax, hawks, and other reclass teams come from. They never go to WSYL, its not a coincidence, they are all older because their rich daddies could not handle not being the best so decided to pay 10s of thousands to play with younger kids to feel good.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Its been the same for every age group, people wonder where all these madlax, hawks, and other reclass teams come from. They never go to WSYL, its not a coincidence, they are all older because their rich daddies could not handle not being the best so decided to pay 10s of thousands to play with younger kids to feel good.

Because you'd didn't quote who you were responding to I don't think any of us have any idea what you're referring to. Is 24 a reclass team?

Which teams looked good at that tournament at Mitchell field? There were only 2 A teams there for the 25's

True blue wants to win so they play in B bracket. Not the way to go. Good players will seek teams that play in top divisions. Rather lose 7-5in top bracket than blow out B teams. B bracket=B organization

Games were pretty close actually . Rebels parents are awesome

Originally Posted by Anonymous

NLF yes, World Series no. If it was true what you are saying they would be going. No airline tickets. No Denver. No I don’t want to spend thousands going across the country. The tournament is a 2 hour drive, maybe less. It’s in Maryland. What more can you ask? So what you should say is they are the best team in NLF. Leave the second part of your sentence out. Tell the truth or say nothing. That’s my motto.

What evidence do you have to assert your claim? Put up or shut up. That's my motto.

They are not at NLF, they are not at WSYL. They are not here, they are not there, they are not anywhere. 91MD does not like green eggs and ham. And there is no more proof needed than their absence. The best team will be identified from those that play.

See you on July 16th.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who looked good and who didnt? Regulators won and they were missing a lot of kids. What does that say?

Who were Regulators missing? The True Blue kids played both. Did they look great? Lost to Rush Day 1 by 5, beat them Day two by 1. Tied Preds. Rebels could have been either way. All 4 of these teams are the same. Inconsistent. Maybe Rush wins because they beat Regulators by more than they were beat by Regulators.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who looked good and who didnt? Regulators won and they were missing a lot of kids. What does that say?

Who were Regulators missing? The True Blue kids played both. Did they look great? Lost to Rush Day 1 by 5, beat them Day two by 1. Tied Preds. Rebels could have been either way. All 4 of these teams are the same. Inconsistent. Maybe Rush wins because they beat Regulators by more than they were beat by Regulators.

They are all on the same level. Not one better than the other. In other words, they can all beat each other and play at a high level. So all good. Watch as these kids mature and they will all be on the same level with all (91, Igloo, etc) in two years.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who looked good and who didnt? Regulators won and they were missing a lot of kids. What does that say?

Who were Regulators missing? The True Blue kids played both. Did they look great? Lost to Rush Day 1 by 5, beat them Day two by 1. Tied Preds. Rebels could have been either way. All 4 of these teams are the same. Inconsistent. Maybe Rush wins because they beat Regulators by more than they were beat by Regulators.

They are all on the same level. Not one better than the other. In other words, they can all beat each other and play at a high level. So all good. Watch as these kids mature and they will all be on the same level with all (91, Igloo, etc) in two years.

Tied Preds? That is a sure sign that you are not good. This was the bracket of wanna he’s. Rush maybe can play up. Regulators who knows what you get day to day. Preds and TB are B programs that once had good older classes but are a joke at younger ages. Rebels have best parents but not even sure how to classify them as I wouldn’t ever worry about playing them or joining them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who looked good and who didnt? Regulators won and they were missing a lot of kids. What does that say?

Who were Regulators missing? The True Blue kids played both. Did they look great? Lost to Rush Day 1 by 5, beat them Day two by 1. Tied Preds. Rebels could have been either way. All 4 of these teams are the same. Inconsistent. Maybe Rush wins because they beat Regulators by more than they were beat by Regulators.

They are all on the same level. Not one better than the other. In other words, they can all beat each other and play at a high level. So all good. Watch as these kids mature and they will all be on the same level with all (91, Igloo, etc) in two years.

Tied Preds? That is a sure sign that you are not good. This was the bracket of wanna he’s. Rush maybe can play up. Regulators who knows what you get day to day. Preds and TB are B programs that once had good older classes but are a joke at younger ages. Rebels have best parents but not even sure how to classify them as I wouldn’t ever worry about playing them or joining them.

Best coaching is Regulators, Igloo and Rush in the grade. Igloo

Rebels have come long way. Maybe not with express and 91, but can beat any other team. Also where missing 5 kids to injuries last weekend. 2025 in general is loaded with talent.

Rush haven’t played anyone for what I can see on the US Club Lax rankings - hopefully this summer they play in some of the elite tournaments so we can get a look.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels have come long way. Maybe not with express and 91, but can beat any other team. Also where missing 5 kids to injuries last weekend. 2025 in general is loaded with talent.

Wow, 5 kids to injury at the start of the season.......though it doesn’t really matter as the team is 1 player.....and a whole lot of special moms. We go to Rebels games when we arent playing them for entertainment....never disappoints.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who looked good and who didnt? Regulators won and they were missing a lot of kids. What does that say?

Who were Regulators missing? The True Blue kids played both. Did they look great? Lost to Rush Day 1 by 5, beat them Day two by 1. Tied Preds. Rebels could have been either way. All 4 of these teams are the same. Inconsistent. Maybe Rush wins because they beat Regulators by more than they were beat by Regulators.

They are all on the same level. Not one better than the other. In other words, they can all beat each other and play at a high level. So all good. Watch as these kids mature and they will all be on the same level with all (91, Igloo, etc) in two years.

Tied Preds? That is a sure sign that you are not good. This was the bracket of wanna he’s. Rush maybe can play up. Regulators who knows what you get day to day. Preds and TB are B programs that once had good older classes but are a joke at younger ages. Rebels have best parents but not even sure how to classify them as I wouldn’t ever worry about playing them or joining them.

Best coaching is Regulators, Igloo and Rush in the grade. Igloo

Coaching? Regulators hardly ever practice together since most of them play elsewhere and only come together for tournaments. Igloo? They are all about drafting the next big thing. Rush? Who ever sees them together. 91 and Express are at the top for a reason. Consistent product, proven coaches. Sure an outlier wins every now and than but that is the beauty of youth sports. Come HS nobody is touching the big 2. All the people hating on LIE wait until the "small" kids go through puberty. Take a look at your sidelines and parents, they're already the same size.

The Regs coach is good. Any thoughts on the Rebels coaches? They seem to pay more attention to the refs then they do their team...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Regs coach is good. Any thoughts on the Rebels coaches? They seem to pay more attention to the refs then they do their team...

Regs and Rebels coach both alittle crazy but good people and coaches. Both very impressive where they have came from.

so laxachusetts wins the NLF without a loss. game has changed, better athletes starting to play. days of average athlete with better coaching and environment dominating are numbered...

how many of these 25s will be reclassifying after this summer?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so laxachusetts wins the NLF without a loss. game has changed, better athletes starting to play. days of average athlete with better coaching and environment dominating are numbered...

What happened to this great 25 Express team?

They are really good. Probably a top 5 team. Lots of practice. Top coaching. Fine by me. I’ll take that what happened.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

so laxachusetts wins the NLF without a loss. game has changed, better athletes starting to play. days of average athlete with better coaching and environment dominating are numbered...

What happened to this great 25 Express team?

The team was only able to add one impact player in the last two years and now they lack depth.

Hahaha top 5 on LI maybe.

100% accurate

Whoever wins the NAL this weekend is unofficial #1 team. That’s the best lineup of teams in a while.

It looks like True Blue is just looking to win tournaments again this weekend. Not a lot of great teams at the Long Ireland tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It looks like True Blue is just looking to win tournaments again this weekend. Not a lot of great teams at the Long Ireland tournament.

This is probably coming from a True Blue parent!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It looks like True Blue is just looking to win tournaments again this weekend. Not a lot of great teams at the Long Ireland tournament.

This is probably coming from a True Blue parent!

Why the detest on True Blue? NLF is a top tournament with A teams from all over. Maybe TB realizes they are not at that level and would prefer to play a local B tournament. You worry about your program and stop obsessing over TB. Let us know how the NJ traffic is after coming back and sitting with beach goers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It looks like True Blue is just looking to win tournaments again this weekend. Not a lot of great teams at the Long Ireland tournament.

This is probably coming from a True Blue parent!

They showed last week they should consider competing vs better teams.

Kids will enjoy playing a local lax tournament. Parents will enjoy watching. Then maybe enjoy the weekend, BBQ, beach, whatever. Yet some people just seem to get angered that other people enjoy this. Why is that?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It looks like True Blue is just looking to win tournaments again this weekend. Not a lot of great teams at the Long Ireland tournament.

This is probably coming from a True Blue parent!

They showed last week they should consider competing vs better teams.

Have to join weak tournaments to allow time for all 30 kids to see the field.

Is True Blue scrimmaging tonight?

Yes they tied rebels better team 5-5….. TB is improving !!!

TB should have won. There were 2 bad penalties at the end of game and were down 2 guys. Other than that, a really good showing overall. Growth and improvement is the name of the game

Originally Posted by Anonymous

TB should have won. There were 2 bad penalties at the end of game and were down 2 guys. Other than that, a really good showing overall. Growth and improvement is the name of the game

Bad penalties, as in they shouldn't have been called penalties? or bad time to take 2 penalties?

Bad plays. No excuses

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It looks like True Blue is just looking to win tournaments again this weekend. Not a lot of great teams at the Long Ireland tournament.

This is probably coming from a True Blue parent!

They showed last week they should consider competing vs better teams.

Have to join weak tournaments to allow time for all 30 kids to see the field.

I did notice when we played them a lot of kids see limited time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes they tied rebels better team 5-5….. TB is improving !!!

That is the level they should play at. They will have 3 easy games this weekend

What happened to Igloo this weekend?

The Garden City town team BEAT the preds...and only lost by one to the rush. Regulators looked good....rebels parents won the whole thing

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It looks like True Blue is just looking to win tournaments again this weekend. Not a lot of great teams at the Long Ireland tournament.

This is probably coming from a True Blue parent!

They showed last week they should consider competing vs better teams.

Have to join weak tournaments to allow time for all 30 kids to see the field.

Every team is carrying 30 kids. Difference is, some teams don't care and only play 15 kids. They'll put in a 2nd line of offense or D and the minute someone makes a mistake they yank the entire line off the field. Great confidence builder for 8th graders.

Why substitute? I mean, 14 year olds cant run an entire game in 90 degree heat? And besides, not having good rotations seems to work for all the clubs that arent winning, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to Igloo this weekend?

Look it up on tourney machine. They lost, as usual.

I guess they didnt have their one scoring option.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened to Igloo this weekend?

Look it up on tourney machine. They lost, as usual.

They went 3-2 and were the only team to beat the Hawks. I would say they are a pretty good team. And I would say there is the a lot parity at the top on this age right now.

PrimeTime beat Hawks in the final, what are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

PrimeTime beat Hawks in the final, what are you talking about?

Making sure you’re paying attention

WSYL schedules up. What are peoples thoughts?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WSYL schedules up. What are peoples thoughts?

I think that most people are not thrilled to go. Even though we qualified most people I have spoken with question having to give up an entire week of work and the expenses related to an average tournament in DC. We did it in Denver for my oldest in the first ever year and it was a great experience, although outrageously expensive. This year some very non competitive local teams made it and the power programs are not attending due to age.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WSYL schedules up. What are peoples thoughts?

I think that most people are not thrilled to go. Even though we qualified most people I have spoken with question having to give up an entire week of work and the expenses related to an average tournament in DC. We did it in Denver for my oldest in the first ever year and it was a great experience, although outrageously expensive. This year some very non competitive local teams made it and the power programs are not attending due to age.

The age reason is legit and was a tough decision for some. Many of the non-attending teams could field great on age squads, but you don't want to break up training for grade based programs for one tourney that people don't care much about. My son is on age, but 5 on his teammates are not (4 august and one july bday...4 stared kindergarten late and one repeated K) so his squad is not attending. They could have easily brought up 5 kids from the 26s and not lost anything talent-wise but then you mess up practices for all the other summer tourneys as you need those kids to play in qualifiers and a couple other tourneys before WSYL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The age reason is legit and was a tough decision for some. Many of the non-attending teams could field great on age squads, but you don't want to break up training for grade based programs for one tourney that people don't care much about. My son is on age, but 5 on his teammates are not (4 august and one july bday...4 stared kindergarten late and one repeated K) so his squad is not attending. They could have easily brought up 5 kids from the 26s and not lost anything talent-wise but then you mess up practices for all the other summer tourneys as you need those kids to play in qualifiers and a couple other tourneys before WSYL.

Really, your 2026 kids are on par with your over-age 2025s? In that case, it sounds like your club did them a massive disservice by not bringing them up and giving them a shot. Especially, when this tournament is within driving distance.....

It would be much better for the sport if all tournaments had standardized age-verification. Then we could stop with all the back and forth about who is bringing older kids down, who is playing over-aged kids, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really, your 2026 kids are on par with your over-age 2025s? In that case, it sounds like your club did them a massive disservice by not bringing them up and giving them a shot. Especially, when this tournament is within driving distance.....

It would be much better for the sport if all tournaments had standardized age-verification. Then we could stop with all the back and forth about who is bringing older kids down, who is playing over-aged kids, etc.

If we bring up our 26s then they are missing practice time with their 26 team who has 4 tournaments to play one tourney with 25s. The disservice would be to bring them up for one lightly regarded tourney while potentially harming the 26 team for multiple more high level tourneys.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really, your 2026 kids are on par with your over-age 2025s? In that case, it sounds like your club did them a massive disservice by not bringing them up and giving them a shot. Especially, when this tournament is within driving distance.....

It would be much better for the sport if all tournaments had standardized age-verification. Then we could stop with all the back and forth about who is bringing older kids down, who is playing over-aged kids, etc.

If we bring up our 26s then they are missing practice time with their 26 team who has 4 tournaments to play one tourney with 25s. The disservice would be to bring them up for one lightly regarded tourney while potentially harming the 26 team for multiple more high level tourneys.

It’s “lightly regarded” because your team is not participating? This definitely one of top 3-4 tournaments this year.

The tournament is just like any other except it costs you 4x as much. Wake up and stop choking on the WYSL Koolaide. Hope all of the laxaholics enjoy it because this will be the last year anyway. 5-6 hr drive is "within driving distance"....Ok buddy! 2 hrs is driving distance. Enjoy your 12 hr roundtrip drive vs 4 hrs of lacrosse and a picture they wil upcharge you for. Clowns!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s “lightly regarded” because your team is not participating? This definitely one of top 3-4 tournaments this year.

That could be part of it, but I think it has more to do with it only being a single age group or 2 age groups for 2021. Much more exciting to be at a larger tourney where there are top teams, but also get to cheer on other ages from your club, hang out with them before and after games etc. They try and hype it up a lot with regional qualifiers, but every decent team qualifies and it loses even more luster when you have teams dropping out and others added without even qualifying. Many tournaments can be described as a money grab, but this takes it to the extreme imo.

What teams this year didn't qualify that are going?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What teams this year didn't qualify that are going?

Do Regulators or Rebels ring a bell??

Regulators actually did qualify...like it or not... You may not agree with the brackets but they did technically qualify. Rebels isnt even on the North Qualifier link that shows advancing teams. You sure they are in?

https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.com/qualifiers/north-regional-qualifier/

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Really, your 2026 kids are on par with your over-age 2025s? In that case, it sounds like your club did them a massive disservice by not bringing them up and giving them a shot. Especially, when this tournament is within driving distance.....

It would be much better for the sport if all tournaments had standardized age-verification. Then we could stop with all the back and forth about who is bringing older kids down, who is playing over-aged kids, etc.

If we bring up our 26s then they are missing practice time with their 26 team who has 4 tournaments to play one tourney with 25s. The disservice would be to bring them up for one lightly regarded tourney while potentially harming the 26 team for multiple more high level tourneys.

If your team could field a competitive on-age team they would be there. The teams that miss this tournament are giving themselves away - they are relying on over-age kids and are far less competitive if they have to field a verified age-eligible team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators actually did qualify...like it or not... You may not agree with the brackets but they did technically qualify. Rebels isnt even on the North Qualifier link that shows advancing teams. You sure they are in?

https://worldseriesofyouthlacrosse.com/qualifiers/north-regional-qualifier/

Yes they are. Not every logo is represented in the language. Read it over again.

How did that happen? They got rolled at the qualifiers. WSYL lets anyone in? What is the purpose of a qualifier then? That is such a bad look for the event and for the team(s) that got the "Need to fill slots" invitations.

Rolled / Rebels 3-2 Regulators1-4 just leave it alone

Day 1 ? When it mattered? What did they do then?

REBELS REBELS REBELS Watch Out haters

Please, the Rebels need to write a nice letter to the Canadian prime minister for locking the boarders and holding the 2 Canadian teams home for the WSYL and giving the Rebels their roster spot. Rebels went 1-2 in the qualifier day one which determined them out of the WSYL but later got in as a space filler, cheers.

Lets revisit this next week.
REBELS REBELS REBELS
By the way they Fundraised and Rebels Paid for any remaining Costs
Class Act
Can I say it again
REBELS REBELS REBELS

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lets revisit this next week.
REBELS REBELS REBELS
By the way they Fundraised and Rebels Paid for any remaining Costs
Class Act
Can I say it again
REBELS REBELS REBELS

It's like jeopardy. I know what the question is: who lost in the last 3 regulators vs rebels games? rebels rebels rebels

That’s funny / regulators = cheaters

Can we just let the games happen this week and see?

I saw this 2025 Rebels team up close this weekend. They have a handful of physically mature (I don't buy that they aren't on-age though), tough offensive players. Coaches seemed to be fighting amongst themselves and they were definitely joysticking the team some. Lots of screaming and telling them exactly what to do when.

Handful of awful parents but that's true of most teams. GC parents were even worse though.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we just let the games happen this week and see?

I saw this 2025 Rebels team up close this weekend. They have a handful of physically mature (I don't buy that they aren't on-age though), tough offensive players. Coaches seemed to be fighting amongst themselves and they were definitely joysticking the team some. Lots of screaming and telling them exactly what to do when.

Handful of awful parents but that's true of most teams. GC parents were even worse though.

Rebels 25s have the best group of parents.

has anyone seen the laxachusetts 2025 team? do not see that team losing a game. by far the best 2025 out there

Rebels looked good this weekend against Older B teams on Day 1. But when it counted most, they fell apart. Coaches too busy jawing with Refs and they used the same kids over and over in the final. That may work against weak B teams but not good ones. If they go into WSYL with that same mindset & gameplan they come home winless... print it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can we just let the games happen this week and see?

I saw this 2025 Rebels team up close this weekend. They have a handful of physically mature (I don't buy that they aren't on-age though), tough offensive players. Coaches seemed to be fighting amongst themselves and they were definitely joysticking the team some. Lots of screaming and telling them exactly what to do when.

Handful of awful parents but that's true of most teams. GC parents were even worse though.

Rebels 25s have the best group of parents.

You must be one of them.

OR you mean they are the best of all the Rebels parents.

The parents were fine. We spoke to a Mom who told us "They never win" The honesty was brutally refreshing but odd. Another dad was pretty cool. Didn't say much. Every team has a few screwballs tho

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That’s funny / regulators = cheaters

How are regulators cheaters?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

has anyone seen the laxachusetts 2025 team? do not see that team losing a game. by far the best 2025 out there

Nope, they took out Shock in the NLF.

Regulators don’t cheat. They qualified with not a good record. That’s not cheating.

Same as Laxachusetts every grade year - they're so old they dominate until everyone else hits puberty and then they're middle of the pack after that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators don’t cheat. They qualified with not a good record. That’s not cheating.

Regulators did not qualify at qualifier. 6 teams advanced. They got in by default as did Rebels

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators don’t cheat. They qualified with not a good record. That’s not cheating.

Regulators did not qualify at qualifier. 6 teams advanced. They got in by default as did Rebels

Heard MB bough all the kids new helmets… true?

They didn’t cheat was the point.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators don’t cheat. They qualified with not a good record. That’s not cheating.

Regulators did not qualify at qualifier. 6 teams advanced. They got in by default as did Rebels

Call it what you want, it doesn’t change the fact that these kids are going to have an awesome experience competing against other great age based teams around the country.

Best of luck Rebels and Regulators and to all the teams in the tournament.

Looking forward to watching all these boys play great lacrosse in a very challenging time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Regulators don’t cheat. They qualified with not a good record. That’s not cheating.

Regulators did not qualify at qualifier. 6 teams advanced. They got in by default as did Rebels

If the tourney needed 24 teams and rounded it out by offering at large spots, which I think is this the case here, why does anybody care? Just go enjoy the next few days with son.

It is what it is. Regardless, both teams will be there so how they got there doesnt matter at this point. The cream will rise to the top.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is what it is. Regardless, both teams will be there so how they got there doesnt matter at this point. The cream will rise to the top.

Exactly right. The teams that are there are there -- it's what they do with the opportunity that matters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is what it is. Regardless, both teams will be there so how they got there doesnt matter at this point. The cream will rise to the top.

Exactly right. The teams that are there are there -- it's what they do with the opportunity that matters.

This is the last age based event of your lacrosse careers, enjoy it. The entire landscape changes for players next year. Its all showcased events, individuals over team and clubs promoting their own brand. if you think the parents are cut-throat now just wait.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is what it is. Regardless, both teams will be there so how they got there doesnt matter at this point. The cream will rise to the top.

Exactly right. The teams that are there are there -- it's what they do with the opportunity that matters.

This is the last age based event of your lacrosse careers, enjoy it. The entire landscape changes for players next year. Its all showcased events, individuals over team and clubs promoting their own brand. if you think the parents are cut-throat now just wait.

Wow. That's about the most cynical thing I've seen here in months.

Cynical, but true. Clubs will promote their brand anyway they can, it’s a business. Most of these clubs care about a few kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is what it is. Regardless, both teams will be there so how they got there doesnt matter at this point. The cream will rise to the top.

Exactly right. The teams that are there are there -- it's what they do with the opportunity that matters.

This is the last age based event of your lacrosse careers, enjoy it. The entire landscape changes for players next year. Its all showcased events, individuals over team and clubs promoting their own brand. if you think the parents are cut-throat now just wait.

Wow. That's about the most cynical thing I've seen here in months.

I have a 2022 kid and 2025 kid. I would say you're wrong except for parents wanting their son to get more playing time. Many 2022 kids went from the top team to the 2nd team in order to accomplish this. There really wasn't any fighting. Parents know where their kid stands by this point. If they're not playing its time to find that playing time.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It is what it is. Regardless, both teams will be there so how they got there doesnt matter at this point. The cream will rise to the top.

Exactly right. The teams that are there are there -- it's what they do with the opportunity that matters.

This is the last age based event of your lacrosse careers, enjoy it. The entire landscape changes for players next year. Its all showcased events, individuals over team and clubs promoting their own brand. if you think the parents are cut-throat now just wait.

Wow. That's about the most cynical thing I've seen here in months.

Clearly you haven't been there yet. 2021, 2023, and 2025. My experience is not unique, ask anyone who has older competitive kids. Their only advocate will be you. You have to decide what your child wants, be realistic and be willing to spend a ton of time and money to go that route. or not.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Cynical, but true. Clubs will promote their brand anyway they can, it’s a business. Most of these clubs care about a few kids.

And those few kids are somehow related to owners, directors and coaches or they go to the HS of the coaches. With no real governing body it's a dirty, dirty business.

Rebels Got new uniforms, apparel package and Helmets. Class Act

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Rebels Got new uniforms, apparel package and Helmets. Class Act

They don't get the proper training so might as well entice them with swag.

Is RUSH 2025 done? Heard that they are and they have tryouts for every other grade listed on their website.

The Rebels 2025 have a Great coaching staff, Parents and Young men. Ownership 2nd to none. Watch the explosion of teams next year. Rebel parents get it. Anyone that knocks this organization, knows zero about LI lacrosse.

Rush Merged with Legacy at this age, neither any good. This will not work, parents are furious.
Good kids will be leaving
Nice move in mid season.
dense and DUMBER

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels Got new uniforms, apparel package and Helmets. Class Act

They don't get the proper training so might as well entice them with swag.

Come on man, they got together as a team over 100 times over the past 12 months. Give it a rest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels Got new uniforms, apparel package and Helmets. Class Act

They don't get the proper training so might as well entice them with swag.

Come on man, they got together as a team over 100 times over the past 12 months. Give it a rest.

Assume we won't see any of those red helmets at tryouts for other teams then!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rush Merged with Legacy at this age, neither any good. This will not work, parents are furious.
Good kids will be leaving
Nice move in mid season.
dense and DUMBER

If true, team mergers never work. Now with HS here. In my opinion (and experience) you need to have your son play with a club with a proven track record in these coming years. Newly formed teams or pick up teams are good up until HS. But now it’s about networking for the recruiting build up over the next 24 months.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels Got new uniforms, apparel package and Helmets. Class Act

They don't get the proper training so might as well entice them with swag.

Come on man, they got together as a team over 100 times over the past 12 months. Give it a rest.

Stop. Kids in and out week to week. Coach promises playing time than rides 15 kids until they can't move anymore, losses mounting. Players not showing up and spotted at other tournaments, guest players from out of state, the list is endless. Rebels are grasping to keep the kids together for their recruiting years, so they offer kids new swag to play in an event the backed into. B team at best with poor coaching, so be realistic. No thanks and best of luck.

Are you saying that Legacy does not have a proven track record , go back and look at all the kids they have committed start with the 2020 class . if you come on here and have zero clue what you are talking about then keep the comments to yourself . The best guy you want getting your kid coached and into college is TZ if you dont believe look at the recruits . All other programs care about the top 5 then everyone else is on there own

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rush Merged with Legacy at this age, neither any good. This will not work, parents are furious.
Good kids will be leaving
Nice move in mid season.
dense and DUMBER

If true, team mergers never work. Now with HS here. In my opinion (and experience) you need to have your son play with a club with a proven track record in these coming years. Newly formed teams or pick up teams are good up until HS. But now it’s about networking for the recruiting build up over the next 24 months.

I guess this might be true if all you care about is a college scholarship. If you're in it just for that, you're missing the point.

not speaking about scholarship , if you now lacrosse you use it to get into a school you would not be able to get in on your own

I think you have to let it go. Nothing u said is true, just grapes. My son is on team, and everything is great. Let it go any worry about your son.

Other than getting on a good team (done) where he plays a lot (done) what recommendations do you guys have for this "recruiting build up over the next 24 months"?

I'm still very new to lacrosse and this is my oldest.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

not speaking about scholarship , if you now lacrosse you use it to get into a school you would not be able to get in on your own

You are not using lacrosse to get into a school unless you are a standout, recruited, player. Some schools have zero sway with admissions, some have a little and some allow for a slightly lower admission standard. The constant is that you have to be recruited and offered a spot, regardless of scholarship. If playing lacrosse in college is the priority there are programs for almost all great players. It depends entirely on #1 the schools need, than #2 factor in how low of an academic institute you're willing to attend just to play.

so why did legacy and rush merge teams? each had enough to field their own team, and rush was probably 3rd or 4th best on the island.

Probably first step of legacy buying out rush. 2025 Rush has some very good players. No depth, not top 5

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Rebels 2025 have a Great coaching staff, Parents and Young men. Ownership 2nd to none. Watch the explosion of teams next year. Rebel parents get it. Anyone that knocks this organization, knows zero about LI lacrosse.

Rebels 2025 head coach is clueless.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The Rebels 2025 have a Great coaching staff, Parents and Young men. Ownership 2nd to none. Watch the explosion of teams next year. Rebel parents get it. Anyone that knocks this organization, knows zero about LI lacrosse.

Rebels 2025 head coach is clueless.

I disagree, he's the smartest guy around. He begged his way into the WSYL so he can say they qualified. Gave the team shiny new helmets to quiet all the malcontents. He'll have them all back next year for the same lower tier product.

Not hard to figure out who is posting the anti Rebels post.

Legacy and Rush merge is for this grade only.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy and Rush merge is for this grade only.

it's a win for both programs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Other than getting on a good team (done) where he plays a lot (done) what recommendations do you guys have for this "recruiting build up over the next 24 months"?

I'm still very new to lacrosse and this is my oldest.

Stay exactly where you are. As long as your player enjoys it. Never forget it's about them not you.

Usually merging organizations would be each grade. Why just this grade.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Other than getting on a good team (done) where he plays a lot (done) what recommendations do you guys have for this "recruiting build up over the next 24 months"?

I'm still very new to lacrosse and this is my oldest.

Stay exactly where you are. As long as your player enjoys it. Never forget it's about them not you.

Do I need to care about these showcases that are starting? I honestly figured NEXT summer we'd start doing that stuff.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rush Merged with Legacy at this age, neither any good. This will not work, parents are furious.
Good kids will be leaving
Nice move in mid season.
dense and DUMBER

If true, team mergers never work. Now with HS here. In my opinion (and experience) you need to have your son play with a club with a proven track record in these coming years. Newly formed teams or pick up teams are good up until HS. But now it’s about networking for the recruiting build up over the next 24 months.

I guess this might be true if all you care about is a college scholarship. If you're in it just for that, you're missing the point.

Lol, okay. Just don’t be first in line to buy film and attend showcases. And not scholarship, those are few. It’s about playing after HS, if a kid wants that, which 98% do… and It is a fact that some clubs can open more doors than others. I won’t promote which club I think does that best. But it will be easy to see in September 2023.. Speaking from experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Other than getting on a good team (done) where he plays a lot (done) what recommendations do you guys have for this "recruiting build up over the next 24 months"?

I'm still very new to lacrosse and this is my oldest.

Stay exactly where you are. As long as your player enjoys it. Never forget it's about them not you.

Do I need to care about these showcases that are starting? I honestly figured NEXT summer we'd start doing that stuff.

I think no need until after sophomore year. Spend this time getting aligned with the right club

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy and Rush merge is for this grade only.

it's a win for both programs.

I’m not sure how. They essentially alienated 1/2 of each team and tarnished their clubs’ reputations. And the result was obviously not positive as they lost to some very poor teams. This is likely a result of some people thinking their kids deserve to be on better teams.

is there anywhere to see live scores on the wsyl?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Other than getting on a good team (done) where he plays a lot (done) what recommendations do you guys have for this "recruiting build up over the next 24 months"?

I'm still very new to lacrosse and this is my oldest.

Stay exactly where you are. As long as your player enjoys it. Never forget it's about them not you.

Do I need to care about these showcases that are starting? I honestly figured NEXT summer we'd start doing that stuff.

I think no need until after sophomore year. Spend this time getting aligned with the right club

Let's not forget that our boys will also get exposure on their high school teams. It's not just club anymore.

I guess Rebels aren’t going 0-5.
Big 8-4 win over a good beserkers team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Other than getting on a good team (done) where he plays a lot (done) what recommendations do you guys have for this "recruiting build up over the next 24 months"?

I'm still very new to lacrosse and this is my oldest.

Stay exactly where you are. As long as your player enjoys it. Never forget it's about them not you.

Do I need to care about these showcases that are starting? I honestly figured NEXT summer we'd start doing that stuff.

I think no need until after sophomore year. Spend this time getting aligned with the right club

Let's not forget that our boys will also get exposure on their high school teams. It's not just club anymore.

I think the best thing you can do is speak with families that have been through this process and make decisions from there. It’s Hs now and being on the right club makes a difference, unless your son has no interest in playing beyond Hs, which is fine. Then stay where you are, but this is the most important tryout yet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Rebels aren’t going 0-5.
Big 8-4 win over a good beserkers team.

Rebels just lost a crazy overtime game vs BBL 8-7. CoachC just lost to Beserkers

Rebels win vs beserkers 8-4 (Beserkers beat CoachC)
Rebels lose to top seeded BBL 8-7 in OT
Showing they belong ?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy and Rush merge is for this grade only.

it's a win for both programs.

I’m not sure how. They essentially alienated 1/2 of each team and tarnished their clubs’ reputations. And the result was obviously not positive as they lost to some very poor teams. This is likely a result of some people thinking their kids deserve to be on better teams.

Legacy has continually tarnished their name time and time again but people continue to go back. Rush had a decent team, I have no idea why they would do what they did. Just doesn't seem to make sense

Rebels 1-1
Win over berserkers 8-4 (who beat CoachC)
OT loss over top seeded BBL
I guess they belong.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels 1-1
Win over berserkers 8-4 (who beat CoachC)
OT loss over top seeded BBL
I guess they belong.

Rebels are legit, the people saying otherwise are simply haters. Lots of good Long Island teams.

Rebels down 3-0 early and by 2 with 2 minutes to play. In OT both goalies stood on heads. Bbl pulls out W 7 min into OT. My son plays Rebels, one of the best games I have ever watched. Someone said earlier, they(Rebels) are a very well coached and awsome groups of players and parents. That’s about says it all. A fantastic team and organization.

All of you that bash this tourney makes no sense to me. It seems like a great event. Love the age based format vs grade.

Loud Mouthed Daddy Coach ruins another team. 91 now Rush whose next.

Rebels have been a class act.

Picked up your tourney entry fee, gifts for the kids and parents, full dinner and bowling tonight, helmets, uniforms and more. They paid for all. What an experience. Highly recommend.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of you that bash this tourney makes no sense to me. It seems like a great event. Love the age based format vs grade.

Nobody bashes the tourney unless they aren’t invited and are trying to feel better about it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of you that bash this tourney makes no sense to me. It seems like a great event. Love the age based format vs grade.

Nobody bashes the tourney unless they aren’t invited and are trying to feel better about it.

Stop it. Plenty of people who have gone have bashed it. If you want to go, go. If you don't, don't.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of you that bash this tourney makes no sense to me. It seems like a great event. Love the age based format vs grade.

Nobody bashes the tourney unless they aren’t invited and are trying to feel better about it.

Stop it. Plenty of people who have gone have bashed it. If you want to go, go. If you don't, don't.

Agreed. holdback players/teams who no longer have an advantage or a competing tournament director.

Only enhancement I’d suggest for WSYL is to add more hurdles to prevent super teams from entering.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Rebels aren’t going 0-5.
Big 8-4 win over a good beserkers team.

"Good Beserkers team" LOL. They went 0-5 this past weekend and had their doors blown off. Rebs went 1-4 two weeks ago and even lost to the Regulators. They backed into the WS from the lost's bracket because other teams backed out, and they lost to a one dimensional BBL team that everyone knows is uneven. Please stop with the Rebel Yelling, they sit behind 91, Express, Igloo, Regulators and now the new Legacy 2025 combo. They're 6th best in Suffolk County - hooray.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Rebels aren’t going 0-5.
Big 8-4 win over a good beserkers team.

"Good Beserkers team" LOL. They went 0-5 this past weekend and had their doors blown off. Rebs went 1-4 two weeks ago and even lost to the Regulators. They backed into the WS from the lost's bracket because other teams backed out, and they lost to a one dimensional BBL team that everyone knows is uneven. Please stop with the Rebel Yelling, they sit behind 91, Express, Igloo, Regulators and now the new Legacy 2025 combo. They're 6th best in Suffolk County - hooray.

I knew Express was underperforming of late, but I thought they would do better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels win vs beserkers 8-4 (Beserkers beat CoachC)
Rebels lose to top seeded BBL 8-7 in OT
Showing they belong ?

Then they lost to Coach C 17-5

how bout them shock?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

how bout them shock?

Yup, got to give those coaches credit. That team two years ago was average A. Now they are a top team.

I think you meant to say ...how bout them shock and the kid from Texas and the Wolfpack goalie ?

I thought Santorio was their main goalie - did he get hurt?

is the championship game on tv?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

is the championship game on tv?

Nope. 91 won 9-5

2020-91
2021-Legacy
2022-Express
2023-91
2024-91
2025-91
2026-Express

At least they didn’t have to go to Denver. But looks like it was an amazing experience for all the teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of you that bash this tourney makes no sense to me. It seems like a great event. Love the age based format vs grade.

Nobody bashes the tourney unless they aren’t invited and are trying to feel better about it.

Stop it. Plenty of people who have gone have bashed it. If you want to go, go. If you don't, don't.

Agreed. holdback players/teams who no longer have an advantage or a competing tournament director.

Only enhancement I’d suggest for WSYL is to add more hurdles to prevent super teams from entering.

Correct. Listing no all star teams as a rule then allowing all star teams doesn't make sense

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of you that bash this tourney makes no sense to me. It seems like a great event. Love the age based format vs grade.

Nobody bashes the tourney unless they aren’t invited and are trying to feel better about it.

Stop it. Plenty of people who have gone have bashed it. If you want to go, go. If you don't, don't.

Overall, a good experience. Had an infomercial feel at the opening ceremony and banquet

Tomorrow at noon on ESPNU
the 14u game will be aired.

I see tryouts for super team 2.0 is now official. IMHO it’s a great idea to form a AA team. However, it will be interesting if they are able to form a 2nd team that’s A. The problem is 2nd teams on Long Island are stigmatized. Everyone wants an A team and that’s why there is so many 2nd tier clubs on the island. It’s evident when you play vs 2nd teams off the island - they are usually better than LI 2nd teams and shockingly as good as the 2nd tier clubs top team. I give Rush and Legacy credit for trying. If they actually form an AA and A on Long Island as a result they force other clubs to do the same and start doing similar things with smaller clubs. Again, my opinion.

Hail to all Li teams. 91 deserves the crown. Again LI represented great across the board. The best thing is not one LI team used illegal players. That cannot be said for a handful of teams. I was not a fan of event but, thought it was great. Could of done without the sales pitches at hotel. Wed hour get together and Friday banquet. Kids had a fantastic time. I would like to thank our owner Mike Brennan(Rebels) for picking up all expenses that were not covered by fund raising. Brennan family a Class act. Again congratulations to 91 and express for 2026 win.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hail to all Li teams. 91 deserves the crown. Again LI represented great across the board. The best thing is not one LI team used illegal players. That cannot be said for a handful of teams. I was not a fan of event but, thought it was great. Could of done without the sales pitches at hotel. Wed hour get together and Friday banquet. Kids had a fantastic time. I would like to thank our owner Mike Brennan(Rebels) for picking up all expenses that were not covered by fund raising. Brennan family a Class act. Again congratulations to 91 and express for 2026 win.

What teams used illegal players??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Rebels aren’t going 0-5.
Big 8-4 win over a good beserkers team.

"Good Beserkers team" LOL. They went 0-5 this past weekend and had their doors blown off. Rebs went 1-4 two weeks ago and even lost to the Regulators. They backed into the WS from the lost's bracket because other teams backed out, and they lost to a one dimensional BBL team that everyone knows is uneven. Please stop with the Rebel Yelling, they sit behind 91, Express, Igloo, Regulators and now the new Legacy 2025 combo. They're 6th best in Suffolk County - hooray.

I knew Express was underperforming of late, but I thought they would do better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Rebels aren’t going 0-5.
Big 8-4 win over a good beserkers team.

"Good Beserkers team" LOL. They went 0-5 this past weekend and had their doors blown off. Rebs went 1-4 two weeks ago and even lost to the Regulators. They backed into the WS from the lost's bracket because other teams backed out, and they lost to a one dimensional BBL team that everyone knows is uneven. Please stop with the Rebel Yelling, they sit behind 91, Express, Igloo, Regulators and now the new Legacy 2025 combo. They're 6th best in Suffolk County - hooray.

I knew Express was underperforming of late, but I thought they would do better.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I guess Rebels aren’t going 0-5.
Big 8-4 win over a good beserkers team.

"Good Beserkers team" LOL. They went 0-5 this past weekend and had their doors blown off. Rebs went 1-4 two weeks ago and even lost to the Regulators. They backed into the WS from the lost's bracket because other teams backed out, and they lost to a one dimensional BBL team that everyone knows is uneven. Please stop with the Rebel Yelling, they sit behind 91, Express, Igloo, Regulators and now the new Legacy 2025 combo. They're 6th best in Suffolk County - hooray.

I knew Express was underperforming of late, but I thought they would do better.

Wait a minute, rebels lose to regulators every time they play them.. lol

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

https://www.facebook.com/1584806622/posts/10223118378659570/?d=n

https://www.facebook.com/100003091172130/posts/3952374734875527/?d=n

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.

I was there, it was a fun tournament for players and families. The big WSYL events on the first and last days were a huge disappointment. The player experience was like bait & switch if your kid was looking for what happened in the past. Where was the “ESPN Media Experience?” It’s supposed to be a fun thing after check-in. There was one photo op set up, with a podium. The main thing being sold was leftover swag. I’ve never been to a youth event with so much alcohol. Maybe that’s why parents aren’t complaining about the “player experience.” Lots of drinks made it go down smoother.

Kids & parents had fun at the banquet - with each other & other teams. Once WSYL reps got up up on the stage, it was a waste of time. The people made the event, the WSYL event activities were the worst parts. What about the giveaways in the past? Compare it to what these boys got…nothing. And those raffles that went on for an hour we’re mostly trash. Besides 3 or 4 cool things, the prizes were literally, old, leftover uniforms from 2015 that need to go in the donate pile. There’s a lot of activities that could have provided during g the banquet. All they had going on was the ONE photo op, and ONE selfie

Finally, what about that big reveal of the failed FlowCode?! Jake, the former fat kid (as we heard over & over) used our kids for eyes on a product launch. It seems like the lacrosse games are a vehicle for his self-promotion. That being said, the lacrosse was the best, most redeeming part. The swag was cool enough for the boys to like, too.

If flowcode is so great, figure out how to use it for the raffles. That seems like it would have been a great use of the technology.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.

I was there, it was a fun tournament for players and families. The big WSYL events on the first and last days were a huge disappointment. The player experience was like bait & switch if your kid was looking for what happened in the past. Where was the “ESPN Media Experience?” It’s supposed to be a fun thing after check-in. There was one photo op set up, with a podium. The main thing being sold was leftover swag. I’ve never been to a youth event with so much alcohol. Maybe that’s why parents aren’t complaining about the “player experience.” Lots of drinks made it go down smoother.

Kids & parents had fun at the banquet - with each other & other teams. Once WSYL reps got up up on the stage, it was a waste of time. The people made the event, the WSYL event activities were the worst parts. What about the giveaways in the past? Compare it to what these boys got…nothing. And those raffles that went on for an hour we’re mostly trash. Besides 3 or 4 cool things, the prizes were literally, old, leftover uniforms from 2015 that need to go in the donate pile. There’s a lot of activities that could have provided during g the banquet. All they had going on was the ONE photo op, and ONE selfie

Finally, what about that big reveal of the failed FlowCode?! Jake, the former fat kid (as we heard over & over) used our kids for eyes on a product launch. It seems like the lacrosse games are a vehicle for his self-promotion. That being said, the lacrosse was the best, most redeeming part. The swag was cool enough for the boys to like, too.

If flowcode is so great, figure out how to use it for the raffles. That seems like it would have been a great use of the technology.

Couldn’t agree more! Did you see the difference in locker rooms for the finals? One team gets a nice locker filled of stuff in a true locker room and the other team had their items on bench in a bathroom. Ridiculous…and 8 seats per table per team for the banquet?!? It was crazy! The facilities were nice but trash every where and no food to be had. Luckily kids had a great time and us parents are really the only ones who are left feeling disappointed for them. But not at all what I was expecting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.

I was there, it was a fun tournament for players and families. The big WSYL events on the first and last days were a huge disappointment. The player experience was like bait & switch if your kid was looking for what happened in the past. Where was the “ESPN Media Experience?” It’s supposed to be a fun thing after check-in. There was one photo op set up, with a podium. The main thing being sold was leftover swag. I’ve never been to a youth event with so much alcohol. Maybe that’s why parents aren’t complaining about the “player experience.” Lots of drinks made it go down smoother.

Kids & parents had fun at the banquet - with each other & other teams. Once WSYL reps got up up on the stage, it was a waste of time. The people made the event, the WSYL event activities were the worst parts. What about the giveaways in the past? Compare it to what these boys got…nothing. And those raffles that went on for an hour we’re mostly trash. Besides 3 or 4 cool things, the prizes were literally, old, leftover uniforms from 2015 that need to go in the donate pile. There’s a lot of activities that could have provided during g the banquet. All they had going on was the ONE photo op, and ONE selfie

Finally, what about that big reveal of the failed FlowCode?! Jake, the former fat kid (as we heard over & over) used our kids for eyes on a product launch. It seems like the lacrosse games are a vehicle for his self-promotion. That being said, the lacrosse was the best, most redeeming part. The swag was cool enough for the boys to like, too.

If flowcode is so great, figure out how to use it for the raffles. That seems like it would have been a great use of the technology.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.

I was there, it was a fun tournament for players and families. The big WSYL events on the first and last days were a huge disappointment. The player experience was like bait & switch if your kid was looking for what happened in the past. Where was the “ESPN Media Experience?” It’s supposed to be a fun thing after check-in. There was one photo op set up, with a podium. The main thing being sold was leftover swag. I’ve never been to a youth event with so much alcohol. Maybe that’s why parents aren’t complaining about the “player experience.” Lots of drinks made it go down smoother.

Kids & parents had fun at the banquet - with each other & other teams. Once WSYL reps got up up on the stage, it was a waste of time. The people made the event, the WSYL event activities were the worst parts. What about the giveaways in the past? Compare it to what these boys got…nothing. And those raffles that went on for an hour we’re mostly trash. Besides 3 or 4 cool things, the prizes were literally, old, leftover uniforms from 2015 that need to go in the donate pile. There’s a lot of activities that could have provided during g the banquet. All they had going on was the ONE photo op, and ONE selfie

Finally, what about that big reveal of the failed FlowCode?! Jake, the former fat kid (as we heard over & over) used our kids for eyes on a product launch. It seems like the lacrosse games are a vehicle for his self-promotion. That being said, the lacrosse was the best, most redeeming part. The swag was cool enough for the boys to like, too.

If flowcode is so great, figure out how to use it for the raffles. That seems like it would have been a great use of the technology.

Couldn’t agree more! Did you see the difference in locker rooms for the finals? One team gets a nice locker filled of stuff in a true locker room and the other team had their items on bench in a bathroom. Ridiculous…and 8 seats per table per team for the banquet?!? It was crazy! The facilities were nice but trash every where and no food to be had. Luckily kids had a great time and us parents are really the only ones who are left feeling disappointed for them. But not at all what I was expecting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.

I was there, it was a fun tournament for players and families. The big WSYL events on the first and last days were a huge disappointment. The player experience was like bait & switch if your kid was looking for what happened in the past. Where was the “ESPN Media Experience?” It’s supposed to be a fun thing after check-in. There was one photo op set up, with a podium. The main thing being sold was leftover swag. I’ve never been to a youth event with so much alcohol. Maybe that’s why parents aren’t complaining about the “player experience.” Lots of drinks made it go down smoother.

Kids & parents had fun at the banquet - with each other & other teams. Once WSYL reps got up up on the stage, it was a waste of time. The people made the event, the WSYL event activities were the worst parts. What about the giveaways in the past? Compare it to what these boys got…nothing. And those raffles that went on for an hour we’re mostly trash. Besides 3 or 4 cool things, the prizes were literally, old, leftover uniforms from 2015 that need to go in the donate pile. There’s a lot of activities that could have provided during g the banquet. All they had going on was the ONE photo op, and ONE selfie

Finally, what about that big reveal of the failed FlowCode?! Jake, the former fat kid (as we heard over & over) used our kids for eyes on a product launch. It seems like the lacrosse games are a vehicle for his self-promotion. That being said, the lacrosse was the best, most redeeming part. The swag was cool enough for the boys to like, too.

If flowcode is so great, figure out how to use it for the raffles. That seems like it would have been a great use of the technology.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.

I was there, it was a fun tournament for players and families. The big WSYL events on the first and last days were a huge disappointment. The player experience was like bait & switch if your kid was looking for what happened in the past. Where was the “ESPN Media Experience?” It’s supposed to be a fun thing after check-in. There was one photo op set up, with a podium. The main thing being sold was leftover swag. I’ve never been to a youth event with so much alcohol. Maybe that’s why parents aren’t complaining about the “player experience.” Lots of drinks made it go down smoother.

Kids & parents had fun at the banquet - with each other & other teams. Once WSYL reps got up up on the stage, it was a waste of time. The people made the event, the WSYL event activities were the worst parts. What about the giveaways in the past? Compare it to what these boys got…nothing. And those raffles that went on for an hour we’re mostly trash. Besides 3 or 4 cool things, the prizes were literally, old, leftover uniforms from 2015 that need to go in the donate pile. There’s a lot of activities that could have provided during g the banquet. All they had going on was the ONE photo op, and ONE selfie

Finally, what about that big reveal of the failed FlowCode?! Jake, the former fat kid (as we heard over & over) used our kids for eyes on a product launch. It seems like the lacrosse games are a vehicle for his self-promotion. That being said, the lacrosse was the best, most redeeming part. The swag was cool enough for the boys to like, too.

If flowcode is so great, figure out how to use it for the raffles. That seems like it would have been a great use of the technology.

You need to stop saying 91. The racist mom is an Express CoachC mom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.
.

91 WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS INCIDENT!! Please correct your post! The original post clearly says it was an Express Parent!

Stop throwing around the word racist

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.

I was there, it was a fun tournament for players and families. The big WSYL events on the first and last days were a huge disappointment. The player experience was like bait & switch if your kid was looking for what happened in the past. Where was the “ESPN Media Experience?” It’s supposed to be a fun thing after check-in. There was one photo op set up, with a podium. The main thing being sold was leftover swag. I’ve never been to a youth event with so much alcohol. Maybe that’s why parents aren’t complaining about the “player experience.” Lots of drinks made it go down smoother.

Kids & parents had fun at the banquet - with each other & other teams. Once WSYL reps got up up on the stage, it was a waste of time. The people made the event, the WSYL event activities were the worst parts. What about the giveaways in the past? Compare it to what these boys got…nothing. And those raffles that went on for an hour we’re mostly trash. Besides 3 or 4 cool things, the prizes were literally, old, leftover uniforms from 2015 that need to go in the donate pile. There’s a lot of activities that could have provided during g the banquet. All they had going on was the ONE photo op, and ONE selfie

Finally, what about that big reveal of the failed FlowCode?! Jake, the former fat kid (as we heard over & over) used our kids for eyes on a product launch. It seems like the lacrosse games are a vehicle for his self-promotion. That being said, the lacrosse was the best, most redeeming part. The swag was cool enough for the boys to like, too.

If flowcode is so great, figure out how to use it for the raffles. That seems like it would have been a great use of the technology.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.

I was there, it was a fun tournament for players and families. The big WSYL events on the first and last days were a huge disappointment. The player experience was like bait & switch if your kid was looking for what happened in the past. Where was the “ESPN Media Experience?” It’s supposed to be a fun thing after check-in. There was one photo op set up, with a podium. The main thing being sold was leftover swag. I’ve never been to a youth event with so much alcohol. Maybe that’s why parents aren’t complaining about the “player experience.” Lots of drinks made it go down smoother.

Kids & parents had fun at the banquet - with each other & other teams. Once WSYL reps got up up on the stage, it was a waste of time. The people made the event, the WSYL event activities were the worst parts. What about the giveaways in the past? Compare it to what these boys got…nothing. And those raffles that went on for an hour we’re mostly trash. Besides 3 or 4 cool things, the prizes were literally, old, leftover uniforms from 2015 that need to go in the donate pile. There’s a lot of activities that could have provided during g the banquet. All they had going on was the ONE photo op, and ONE selfie

Finally, what about that big reveal of the failed FlowCode?! Jake, the former fat kid (as we heard over & over) used our kids for eyes on a product launch. It seems like the lacrosse games are a vehicle for his self-promotion. That being said, the lacrosse was the best, most redeeming part. The swag was cool enough for the boys to like, too.

If flowcode is so great, figure out how to use it for the raffles. That seems like it would have been a great use of the technology.

Couldn’t agree more! Did you see the difference in locker rooms for the finals? One team gets a nice locker filled of stuff in a true locker room and the other team had their items on bench in a bathroom. Ridiculous…and 8 seats per table per team for the banquet?!? It was crazy! The facilities were nice but trash every where and no food to be had. Luckily kids had a great time and us parents are really the only ones who are left feeling disappointed for them. But not at all what I was expecting.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.

I was there, it was a fun tournament for players and families. The big WSYL events on the first and last days were a huge disappointment. The player experience was like bait & switch if your kid was looking for what happened in the past. Where was the “ESPN Media Experience?” It’s supposed to be a fun thing after check-in. There was one photo op set up, with a podium. The main thing being sold was leftover swag. I’ve never been to a youth event with so much alcohol. Maybe that’s why parents aren’t complaining about the “player experience.” Lots of drinks made it go down smoother.

Kids & parents had fun at the banquet - with each other & other teams. Once WSYL reps got up up on the stage, it was a waste of time. The people made the event, the WSYL event activities were the worst parts. What about the giveaways in the past? Compare it to what these boys got…nothing. And those raffles that went on for an hour we’re mostly trash. Besides 3 or 4 cool things, the prizes were literally, old, leftover uniforms from 2015 that need to go in the donate pile. There’s a lot of activities that could have provided during g the banquet. All they had going on was the ONE photo op, and ONE selfie

Finally, what about that big reveal of the failed FlowCode?! Jake, the former fat kid (as we heard over & over) used our kids for eyes on a product launch. It seems like the lacrosse games are a vehicle for his self-promotion. That being said, the lacrosse was the best, most redeeming part. The swag was cool enough for the boys to like, too.

If flowcode is so great, figure out how to use it for the raffles. That seems like it would have been a great use of the technology.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

What makes this a lot worse is that it was right in front of Jake! All he said in the moment was “we’re all a little crazy now.” Later, he took no action to take a stand against what happened.

Good on the Beserkers who walked out with the Iroquois! They went even further by meeting with Jake, and the Iroquois after. They wanted him to take action against 91 for the racist, offensive remarks. We heard all about how bad behavior - like putting stickers on hotel walls - would not be tolerated and could get you disqualified. But NO what the 91 LI parent did WAS tolerated? That shouldn’t happen.

I was there, it was a fun tournament for players and families. The big WSYL events on the first and last days were a huge disappointment. The player experience was like bait & switch if your kid was looking for what happened in the past. Where was the “ESPN Media Experience?” It’s supposed to be a fun thing after check-in. There was one photo op set up, with a podium. The main thing being sold was leftover swag. I’ve never been to a youth event with so much alcohol. Maybe that’s why parents aren’t complaining about the “player experience.” Lots of drinks made it go down smoother.

Kids & parents had fun at the banquet - with each other & other teams. Once WSYL reps got up up on the stage, it was a waste of time. The people made the event, the WSYL event activities were the worst parts. What about the giveaways in the past? Compare it to what these boys got…nothing. And those raffles that went on for an hour we’re mostly trash. Besides 3 or 4 cool things, the prizes were literally, old, leftover uniforms from 2015 that need to go in the donate pile. There’s a lot of activities that could have provided during g the banquet. All they had going on was the ONE photo op, and ONE selfie

Finally, what about that big reveal of the failed FlowCode?! Jake, the former fat kid (as we heard over & over) used our kids for eyes on a product launch. It seems like the lacrosse games are a vehicle for his self-promotion. That being said, the lacrosse was the best, most redeeming part. The swag was cool enough for the boys to like, too.

If flowcode is so great, figure out how to use it for the raffles. That seems like it would have been a great use of the technology.

You need to stop saying 91. The racist mom is an Express CoachC mom.

91

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Stop throwing around the word racist

LOL. Because THAT is the problem here.

Grow up.

Congratulations to Team 91 U14 for winning the WSYL Championship & BBL for a great game!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

https://www.facebook.com/1584806622/posts/10223118378659570/?d=n

https://www.facebook.com/100003091172130/posts/3952374734875527/?d=n

Wow. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So what's the scoop on the Express players and mom getting into it with the Iroquois?

Apparently an express mom called the Iroquois kids trash and said they stink. It was overheard and the Iroquois put a picture of her on Facebook that is being shared broadly.

What's their FB page?

https://www.facebook.com/1584806622/posts/10223118378659570/?d=n

https://www.facebook.com/100003091172130/posts/3952374734875527/?d=n

Wonder if her BOE will like to hear about this incident

Awful

Legacy merging with Rush ?

We all love some dirt on competitors clubs, but the video was a whole lot of nothing. I'm reserving judgment.

Our tent(Rebels) at fields was between berserkers and Iroquois at field. Our kids mingled and hung out with both. Was absolutely awesome and kids and parents were top notch. We tried not to run up score as others did when we played Iroquois. Those parents came over to our tent and told us how classy we are, I think they were classy. Team was not that good, but they came to enjoy all. Whole berserkers team watched our ot win against Sixers and ran out on field with our players. Was a great event, but those running really do not get it. To them it was a sales pitch opportunity. As far as parent that acted like complete stunad with comments, it WAS not any one with 91.

He didn't play

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their sheets and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong here, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in from of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their sheets and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong here, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in from of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Thanks express dad

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their seats and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here first and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong at this table, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in front of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their sheets and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong here, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in from of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Thanks for clarifying Express mom. Lol

And this one time at band camp

Team 91 MVP was from Texas? Did they mention his town or school on broadcast? Maybe he moved to Long Island from Texas?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MVP was from Texas? Did they mention his town or school on broadcast? Maybe he moved to Long Island from Texas?

I thought you needed to live within 100 miles of the club?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MVP was from Texas? Did they mention his town or school on broadcast? Maybe he moved to Long Island from Texas?

I thought you needed to live within 100 miles of the club?

2026 CoachC MVP is from New Fairfield CT. So much for Long Island Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MVP was from Texas? Did they mention his town or school on broadcast? Maybe he moved to Long Island from Texas?

I thought you needed to live within 100 miles of the club?

Kid is a stud. Hopefully 91 keeps paying for those plane tickets from Texas because team is pretty average without him.

did the shock play everyone in the championship or did they tighten up the bench?

Fairfield CT is within 100 air miles which is the rule

Not an Express dad, just someone who is really tired of this “woke, cancel culture” where you can’t have a disagreement with anyone or your labeled a “Racist” and attacked on Social Media by people who have no idea what the facts are and don’t even bother to ask what they are!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fairfield CT is within 100 air miles which is the rule

Not the point. Is this a kid who regularly comes to practice with the team? If so, kudos to them. If not, it's out of the spirit of the event. Same with the 91 kid from Texas or Wolfpack goalie. Win with your actual team.

Incident reminds me of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2019_Lincoln_Memorial_confrontation

Remember when media rushed to judgement?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MVP was from Texas? Did they mention his town or school on broadcast? Maybe he moved to Long Island from Texas?

I thought you needed to live within 100 miles of the club?

Kid is a stud. Hopefully 91 keeps paying for those plane tickets from Texas because team is pretty average without him.

Totally untrue. This team is loaded. specially at midfield.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MVP was from Texas? Did they mention his town or school on broadcast? Maybe he moved to Long Island from Texas?

I thought you needed to live within 100 miles of the club?

Kid is a stud. Hopefully 91 keeps paying for those plane tickets from Texas because team is pretty average without him.

Enough! This kid isn’t the typical “import to win”. Not a 91 parent but my son is friends with the boy and grew up with him.
He grew up on Long Island and has been part of 91 for years.

Yes, moved to Texas about 2 years ago but still spends plenty of the summer on LI.

Move on

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legacy merging with Rush ?

Just in the 2025 age. So if you’re on either A team currently 50% of each team won’t make the A team or 60/40 etc. And they will probably talk about forming a AA and A team and just having professional coaches run the teams, to help with retention. Why not just make the AA team? I can respect that. In my opinion, the 2nd team in this situation will be a huge risk. But the 1st team will be legit. It makes sense because the new team can leverage Legacy for recruiting in a few years. Legacy does a good job with that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MVP was from Texas? Did they mention his town or school on broadcast? Maybe he moved to Long Island from Texas?

I thought you needed to live within 100 miles of the club?

Kid is a stud. Hopefully 91 keeps paying for those plane tickets from Texas because team is pretty average without him.

Totally untrue. This team is loaded. specially at midfield.

Yeah makes a lot of sense ...team is so loaded that they fly a kid in from Texas lol.....funny

They fly in… hahaha

Most pathetic people around

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Not an Express dad, just someone who is really tired of this “woke, cancel culture” where you can’t have a disagreement with anyone or your labeled a “Racist” and attacked on Social Media by people who have no idea what the facts are and don’t even bother to ask what they are!

I think that you mean that you have a problem with the concept of consequences. She hasn’t been “canceled.” She still has her teaching job. Her son is still on the team. Seems to me she’s faced little to no consequences at all.

A lot of the other teams are posting in solidarity with the Iroquois kids and team. So far Express is silent. This could all go away if they’d put out a cookie-cutter statement against racism blah blah. Instead they are ignoring it and hoping it goes away. It probably will. But it might not.

My guess is her son is less recruitable now. At least for coaches who are paying attention. Who wants that kind of parent involved in their program?

And it’s now on Reddit

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their seats and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here first and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong at this table, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in front of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Won't be believed on this forum but I was nearby and while I don't recall exact words there was definitely nothing racist said by either person. There was certainly a small confrontation about who I now know was Iroquois team at the Express table. I was close enough to say with confidence there was certainly zero racism involved and seemed merely about seating a team.

The World Series of baseball would not allow a kid who used to live e on Long Island that lives in Texas play for a Long Island team. That Texas kid had 4 points in the final plus commanded slides and best long stick. Was a factor in game outcome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And it’s now on Reddit

Oh boy

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fairfield CT is within 100 air miles which is the rule

Not the point. Is this a kid who regularly comes to practice with the team? If so, kudos to them. If not, it's out of the spirit of the event. Same with the 91 kid from Texas or Wolfpack goalie. Win with your actual team.

CT player comes to every practice and is well within the 100 mile radius rule.

Because I did not witness the event between this woman and the Iroquois team, I will keep my thoughts to myself since I really have no idea what transpired. It would be great if everyone else did the same.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The World Series of baseball would not allow a kid who used to live e on Long Island that lives in Texas play for a Long Island team. That Texas kid had 4 points in the final plus commanded slides and best long stick. Was a factor in game outcome.

And the 91 dad says " team is stacked , we didnt even need him ". Lol

Distance between Texas and NY is over 1700 miles , so much for the 100 mile rule . Just goes to show how the wsyl is a joke . I heard even at the qualifiers in Delaware not one person was doing any checking in, so basically you could have bring anyone for the qualifiers as no one was checking . Sad . Another money grab if you’re not going to enforce rules that you put out there.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fairfield CT is within 100 air miles which is the rule

Not the point. Is this a kid who regularly comes to practice with the team? If so, kudos to them. If not, it's out of the spirit of the event. Same with the 91 kid from Texas or Wolfpack goalie. Win with your actual team.

CT player comes to every practice and is well within the 100 mile radius rule.

Sure is. 100 miles from LI covers a lot of population, 20million + to choose a group of 50 kids from then cut that down to 25. Seems like an advantage, especially when there are only 2-3 teams in LI that will draw the top talent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fairfield CT is within 100 air miles which is the rule

Not the point. Is this a kid who regularly comes to practice with the team? If so, kudos to them. If not, it's out of the spirit of the event. Same with the 91 kid from Texas or Wolfpack goalie. Win with your actual team.

CT player comes to every practice and is well within the 100 mile radius rule.

Sure is, the whole state of CT falls within that 100 mile rule, which makes the rule a joke. You're telling me that that player plays year round with Express and drives 2 hours each way to go to 2-4 practices a week? If so, then great. But if they picked him up just for the WSYL and he only has to go to an occasional practice, then that defeats the whole spirit of a club team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because I did not witness the event between this woman and the Iroquois team, I will keep my thoughts to myself since I really have no idea what transpired. It would be great if everyone else did the same.

That makes too much sense. Get off of here.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Fairfield CT is within 100 air miles which is the rule

Not the point. Is this a kid who regularly comes to practice with the team? If so, kudos to them. If not, it's out of the spirit of the event. Same with the 91 kid from Texas or Wolfpack goalie. Win with your actual team.

it is the point, the kid lives in The Woodlands in Houston. Don't care if he grew up in LI. They broke ELIGIBILITY RULES – UNITED STATES TEAMS.

All players must reside within 100 miles of the home field of their program. Players will be required to submit a current academic year report card, school identification card, or comparable proof of residency.

They should be stripped of their title.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MVP was from Texas? Did they mention his town or school on broadcast? Maybe he moved to Long Island from Texas?

I thought you needed to live within 100 miles of the club?

Kid is a stud. Hopefully 91 keeps paying for those plane tickets from Texas because team is pretty average without him.

Enough! This kid isn’t the typical “import to win”. Not a 91 parent but my son is friends with the boy and grew up with him.
He grew up on Long Island and has been part of 91 for years.

Yes, moved to Texas about 2 years ago but still spends plenty of the summer on LI.

Move on

LOL, so that makes him eligible for a LI team? What did they submit when we had to submit drivers license and report card? Does he attend summer school on the island?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Because I did not witness the event between this woman and the Iroquois team, I will keep my thoughts to myself since I really have no idea what transpired. It would be great if everyone else did the same.

Perfect. Applies to all aspects of life.

get over it sparky!

Can you stream the finals game anywhere?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 MVP was from Texas? Did they mention his town or school on broadcast? Maybe he moved to Long Island from Texas?

I thought you needed to live within 100 miles of the club?

Kid is a stud. Hopefully 91 keeps paying for those plane tickets from Texas because team is pretty average without him.

Enough! This kid isn’t the typical “import to win”. Not a 91 parent but my son is friends with the boy and grew up with him.
He grew up on Long Island and has been part of 91 for years.

Yes, moved to Texas about 2 years ago but still spends plenty of the summer on LI.

Move on

I missed the part of the rules where it says players that spend 'plenty of time' within the 100 mile radius are eligible.

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

It’s about winning. And if a club can get their logo on TV, while winning…And why they’ll be 100+ at tryouts. Because of the success of the club. Now we can talk LI.

Regulators, great coaching, should merge with a club to make the team AA (and keep an eye on the Rush/Legacy merger)
Express, just was never able to add more than one impact player and other teams did and developed. All in all, great team
Rebels, solid team. Played as expected.
Igloo, great team, no reason to tinker. They performed well
91, great coaching that moved this team from decent to elite in 18 months

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

It’s about winning. And if a club can get their logo on TV, while winning…And why they’ll be 100+ at tryouts. Because of the success of the club. Now we can talk LI.

Regulators, great coaching, should merge with a club to make the team AA (and keep an eye on the Rush/Legacy merger)
Express, just was never able to add more than one impact player and other teams did and developed. All in all, great team
Rebels, solid team. Played as expected.
Igloo, great team, no reason to tinker. They performed well
91, great coaching that moved this team from decent to elite in 18 months

Yes, most teams go with the vision of winning the WSYL. BUT to bring the team MVP from Texas to a tournament with a 100 mile radius rule is cheating. Doesn't matter if he summers in the Hamptons or that he played for them 2 years ago while living on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

It’s about winning. And if a club can get their logo on TV, while winning…And why they’ll be 100+ at tryouts. Because of the success of the club. Now we can talk LI.

Regulators, great coaching, should merge with a club to make the team AA (and keep an eye on the Rush/Legacy merger)
Express, just was never able to add more than one impact player and other teams did and developed. All in all, great team
Rebels, solid team. Played as expected.
Igloo, great team, no reason to tinker. They performed well
91, great coaching that moved this team from decent to elite in 18 months

Yes, most teams go with the vision of winning the WSYL. BUT to bring the team MVP from Texas to a tournament with a 100 mile radius rule is cheating. Doesn't matter if he summers in the Hamptons or that he played for them 2 years ago while living on LI.

Agree. How did Jake let this happen? What about report cards? Was there an excption made here? Completely unfair here. And nice try to change the subject 91 mom.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

It’s about winning. And if a club can get their logo on TV, while winning…And why they’ll be 100+ at tryouts. Because of the success of the club. Now we can talk LI.

Regulators, great coaching, should merge with a club to make the team AA (and keep an eye on the Rush/Legacy merger)
Express, just was never able to add more than one impact player and other teams did and developed. All in all, great team
Rebels, solid team. Played as expected.
Igloo, great team, no reason to tinker. They performed well
91, great coaching that moved this team from decent to elite in 18 months

Yes, most teams go with the vision of winning the WSYL. BUT to bring the team MVP from Texas to a tournament with a 100 mile radius rule is cheating. Doesn't matter if he summers in the Hamptons or that he played for them 2 years ago while living on LI.

Sounds like people should be taking issue with the tournament, not 91 and not one individual kid. In any competitive environment, teams will get away with what they're allowed to get away with.
At any point, did any team at the tournament approach a WSYL director to have the roster eligibility of their opponent proven? Seems like with so many people knowing this kids life story it would've been a smart idea to do before the games started.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

It’s about winning. And if a club can get their logo on TV, while winning…And why they’ll be 100+ at tryouts. Because of the success of the club. Now we can talk LI.

Regulators, great coaching, should merge with a club to make the team AA (and keep an eye on the Rush/Legacy merger)
Express, just was never able to add more than one impact player and other teams did and developed. All in all, great team
Rebels, solid team. Played as expected.
Igloo, great team, no reason to tinker. They performed well
91, great coaching that moved this team from decent to elite in 18 months

Yes, most teams go with the vision of winning the WSYL. BUT to bring the team MVP from Texas to a tournament with a 100 mile radius rule is cheating. Doesn't matter if he summers in the Hamptons or that he played for them 2 years ago while living on LI.

Agree. How did Jake let this happen? What about report cards? Was there an excption made here? Completely unfair here. And nice try to change the subject 91 mom.

100%.

I am not even a 25 dad, just came in here see what was posted on the Express- Iroquois drama. If 91 was able to use a resident of TX who once lived in LI 2 years ago then the team and tournament should have to address that. No different than if a team used a kid that was too old.

Ok. Now that all the World Series nonsense is finally over for 2025's, what happens now? Do parents move 2nd and 3rd liners off AA teams to get some playing time? If so, where? Do you go for a specific coach? Should make things interesting for tryouts I think.

Enough with he 91 kid. Great kid, great family, great player. What about LI teams that had players from CT on the rosters? Nobody moaning about that? Or Older kids? There were definately some of those. In the end, Jake got your money, you fulfilled your life long dream of a WSYL experience and its over. Move on.... In a week noone will remember any of this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough with he 91 kid. Great kid, great family, great player. What about LI teams that had players from CT on the rosters? Nobody moaning about that? Or Older kids? There were definately some of those. In the end, Jake got your money, you fulfilled your life long dream of a WSYL experience and its over. Move on.... In a week noone will remember any of this.

Thanks 91 dad, enjoy your win with an illegal roster. CT is within 100 miles. What teams are you claiming had older kids?

Andy Towers tweeting about the incident now. In the comments, someone posted a twitter account/pic of a woman with the same last name as the coach who looks like the woman in question.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough with he 91 kid. Great kid, great family, great player. What about LI teams that had players from CT on the rosters? Nobody moaning about that? Or Older kids? There were definately some of those. In the end, Jake got your money, you fulfilled your life long dream of a WSYL experience and its over. Move on.... In a week noone will remember any of this.

Thanks 91 dad, enjoy your win with an illegal roster. CT is within 100 miles. What teams are you claiming had older kids?

Yes, we'd love to hear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Andy Towers tweeting about the incident now. In the comments, someone posted a twitter account/pic of a woman with the same last name as the coach who looks like the woman in question.

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How did Rebels and Regulators do? Chanster got smoked.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

Totally agree. "We just want a tournament of on age kids so we can have an even playing field". Then skirt the rules with a player who once lived in NY.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

The Woodlands Mens Lacrosse Club facebook page, enough said.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

Totally agree. "We just want a tournament of on age kids so we can have an even playing field". Then skirt the rules with a player who once lived in NY.

What is the point in having rules, if there are no consequences for violating the rules.

Loved this tournament, but WSYL must do more to prevent super teams from entering the tournament and police/uphold existing rules.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

Totally agree. "We just want a tournament of on age kids so we can have an even playing field". Then skirt the rules with a player who once lived in NY.

What is the point in having rules, if there are no consequences for violating the rules.

Loved this tournament, but WSYL must do more to prevent super teams from entering the tournament and police/uphold existing rules.

Hard to defend when the 14U MVP is at the 1% showcase and on the roster it shows Team 91, with his HS as The Woodlands TX.

All Long Island played by rules and no out of age players. Did anyone notice VLC 15/16 year olds

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All Long Island played by rules and no out of age players. Did anyone notice VLC 15/16 year olds

No, any proof on that?

Seems like lots of proof that 14U team 91 LI used a TX player who was their MVP

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All Long Island played by rules and no out of age players. Did anyone notice VLC 15/16 year olds

Everyone on VLC Black Ops was 100% on age. A few big kids, but that's all they are - big kids that are 13 or 14 years old right now.

Why when they checking in 1/2 of team got birthdates wrong?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why when they checking in 1/2 of team got birthdates wrong?

Proof??

Pretty easy to prove the 91 MVP lives in Texas

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All Long Island played by rules and no out of age players. Did anyone notice VLC 15/16 year olds

Everyone on VLC Black Ops was 100% on age. A few big kids, but that's all they are - big kids that are 13 or 14 years old right now.

VLC is the new game in town from MD!

Did u see vlc. When couple kids are big, it is what it is. When 1/2 of team is bigger than defenseman on opposing team, somethings not right. Not to say other teams also cheated. Again Long Island used zero out of age players.WSYL has to do a better job checking and less selling some BS products from Jake

WHO CARES if the kid is from Mars? Its over...Move on. Not sure what people want? Strip 91 because a kid has played with them for years and moved to TX? How many of those teams had older kids, kids from other states, etc.? Get a life already. You are taking 14 yr old lax far too serious. Although stripping them would be funny just to see the reaction of a few of the looney parents.

Seaford, Texas...never heard of it? Haaaaa Move on! He was neighbors with Jake.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did u see vlc. When couple kids are big, it is what it is. When 1/2 of team is bigger than defenseman on opposing team, somethings not right. Not to say other teams also cheated. Again Long Island used zero out of age players.WSYL has to do a better job checking and less selling some BS products from Jake

Again, a taller bigger kid doesn't mean older. Going to middle school in Texas DOES mean you live in Texas though. Now THAT is cheating.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Did u see vlc. When couple kids are big, it is what it is. When 1/2 of team is bigger than defenseman on opposing team, somethings not right. Not to say other teams also cheated. Again Long Island used zero out of age players.WSYL has to do a better job checking and less selling some BS products from Jake

Stop Deflecting, 91 cheated and should lose their title. If not, this is just like every other tournament. That said it will never happen.

Do you people actually think that the WSYL did not know he moved to Texas. They did and didnt care

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WHO CARES if the kid is from Mars? Its over...Move on. Not sure what people want? Strip 91 because a kid has played with them for years and moved to TX? How many of those teams had older kids, kids from other states, etc.? Get a life already. You are taking 14 yr old lax far too serious. Although stripping them would be funny just to see the reaction of a few of the looney parents.

HAHAHA, A LI dad saying no big deal, so he moved to Texas. He has played with 91 for years.....What is your stance on hold backs, or kids that are a few months too old for the WSYL that couldnt play but have been with their current teams since 3rd grade? I'm guessing that you wouldn't say "let them play"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why when they checking in 1/2 of team got birthdates wrong?

Proof??

Pretty easy to prove the 91 MVP lives in Texas

Let’s stop with all this nonsense - there’s no reason to believe anyone was over-age.

As for the whining about the “kid from Texas” everyone knows he’s been a longtime resident of LI and a longtime player on 91. The tournament directors reviewed his situation and deemed him eligible to play. No one snuck him on the roster. He was cleared.

I’m sorry if that makes you sad, but it’s probably time for you to move on and stop obsessing over a youth lacrosse tournament that is over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why when they checking in 1/2 of team got birthdates wrong?

Proof??

Pretty easy to prove the 91 MVP lives in Texas

Let’s stop with all this nonsense - there’s no reason to believe anyone was over-age.

As for the whining about the “kid from Texas” everyone knows he’s been a longtime resident of LI and a longtime player on 91. The tournament directors reviewed his situation and deemed him eligible to play. No one snuck him on the roster. He was cleared.

I’m sorry if that makes you sad, but it’s probably time for you to move on and stop obsessing over a youth lacrosse tournament that is over.

Assuming you are a 91 parent. Would you be OK if a team submitted their roster and were approved for a player born 5 months before the cut off but was a longtime player on his team? and he went on to be the MVP of the team that won it all?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

The Woodlands Mens Lacrosse Club facebook page, enough said.

Someone is very bitter

It doesnt mattter. It was a good tourney for the kids and a decent show put on by the WSYL. If your a Rebels, Regulators or Express parent your team still wouldnt have beaten 91 regardless, with or without a Seaford, TX kid. . Nor would you have beaten most of the teams that 91 played. Just a fact. Those teams have a long way to go before they can be mentioned in same sentence as 91. Express is a rebuild, Regulators is rising but needs help and Rebels.... Well, even tho they looked more competitive this weekend they are the same old. Move on. 91 won. Say it with me. 91 WON....and your life isnt any different today because of it....is it? If it is you should seek therapy, not 5 Below t shirts...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why when they checking in 1/2 of team got birthdates wrong?

Proof??

Pretty easy to prove the 91 MVP lives in Texas

Let’s stop with all this nonsense - there’s no reason to believe anyone was over-age.

As for the whining about the “kid from Texas” everyone knows he’s been a longtime resident of LI and a longtime player on 91. The tournament directors reviewed his situation and deemed him eligible to play. No one snuck him on the roster. He was cleared.

I’m sorry if that makes you sad, but it’s probably time for you to move on and stop obsessing over a youth lacrosse tournament that is over.

Assuming you are a 91 parent. Would you be OK if a team submitted their roster and were approved for a player born 5 months before the cut off but was a longtime player on his team? and he went on to be the MVP of the team that won it all?

So, that’s not even close to the same thing. A player receives no advantage by moving to another state and is actually at a disadvantage. A player born 5 months early has an age advantage.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

The Woodlands Mens Lacrosse Club facebook page, enough said.

Someone is very bitter

No dog in this fight, but no more whining about holdbacks at non WSYL tournaments if you can bring a Texas resident to the WSYL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

Totally agree. "We just want a tournament of on age kids so we can have an even playing field". Then skirt the rules with a player who once lived in NY.

Crabs have a bunch of kids on their roster that were once 13. Maybe they could have entered if they asked nicely.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It doesnt mattter. It was a good tourney for the kids and a decent show put on by the WSYL. If your a Rebels, Regulators or Express parent your team still wouldnt have beaten 91 regardless, with or without a Seaford, TX kid. . Nor would you have beaten most of the teams that 91 played. Just a fact. Those teams have a long way to go before they can be mentioned in same sentence as 91. Express is a rebuild, Regulators is rising but needs help and Rebels.... Well, even tho they looked more competitive this weekend they are the same old. Move on. 91 won. Say it with me. 91 WON....and your life isnt any different today because of it....is it? If it is you should seek therapy, not 5 Below t shirts...

I realize it's not his fault and he's a great player but he materially changed the outcome of the whole tournament. 91 would not have won several of their games without him and not made it out of the quarterfinals for sure. Add him to that Mohicans team and they could have come out 3/2 instead of 0/5 and been a contender for the 2nd spot in that bracket. Won? Probably not, but it makes everything more competitive and an actual World Series instead of the battle of NY & NJ.

I like that the people here on this site care more about the kid from Texas than they do blatant racism. Sad.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

The Woodlands Mens Lacrosse Club facebook page, enough said.

Someone is very bitter

Gotta love that his WSYL Topps trading card has him in a Woodland's jersey! (On that Woodland FB page) Come on Jake!!!

It’s funny how tryouts are coming. Email after email advertisements of tryouts. This is where directors pad their pay checks. Get boat loads of kids to come to tryouts. Teams are doing this.Teams are doing that. It sounds so great. We welcome you. Look at our college commits. Come try out.(pay the fee). What they don’t put in those advertising emails is that the whole team is probably returning. So all those kids trying out are trying out for maybe 2 slots.(30 kids now on team). Everybody else gets put on a B or C team. None of those emails seem to say this.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Andy Towers tweeting about the incident now. In the comments, someone posted a twitter account/pic of a woman with the same last name as the coach who looks like the woman in question.

Interesting! Maybe it wasn't the mom of a player after all.....

Jake is beyond his expiration date and needs to pass this event onto someone that the kids can relate to like a Paul Rabil or Rob Pannell and who seem to have more and better knowledge and where with all to promote as s the sport and the event and can relate to the kids. This event was more about Jake and his new sports drink than the spirit of the game and the boys. I don’t think there was one kid who even knows who Jake is Having the 2025’s and the 2026’s play at the same venue at the same time was not about Covid, but cutting expenses and making it as profitable as he could. He actually diluted the tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jake is beyond his expiration date and needs to pass this event onto someone that the kids can relate to like a Paul Rabil or Rob Pannell and who seem to have more and better knowledge and where with all to promote as s the sport and the event and can relate to the kids. This event was more about Jake and his new sports drink than the spirit of the game and the boys. I don’t think there was one kid who even knows who Jake is Having the 2025’s and the 2026’s play at the same venue at the same time was not about Covid, but cutting expenses and making it as profitable as he could. He actually diluted the tournament.

I was surprised he didn't announce that they would do 13u and 14u every year

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jake is beyond his expiration date and needs to pass this event onto someone that the kids can relate to like a Paul Rabil or Rob Pannell and who seem to have more and better knowledge and where with all to promote as s the sport and the event and can relate to the kids. This event was more about Jake and his new sports drink than the spirit of the game and the boys. I don’t think there was one kid who even knows who Jake is Having the 2025’s and the 2026’s play at the same venue at the same time was not about Covid, but cutting expenses and making it as profitable as he could. He actually diluted the tournament.

I was surprised he didn't announce that they would do 13u and 14u every year

That would mean these teams would have to do it 2 years in a row. I don’t think you will get a lot of takers on that. Especially the ones from outside the northeast

U14 definitely definitely looks better in tv.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jake is beyond his expiration date and needs to pass this event onto someone that the kids can relate to like a Paul Rabil or Rob Pannell and who seem to have more and better knowledge and where with all to promote as s the sport and the event and can relate to the kids. This event was more about Jake and his new sports drink than the spirit of the game and the boys. I don’t think there was one kid who even knows who Jake is Having the 2025’s and the 2026’s play at the same venue at the same time was not about Covid, but cutting expenses and making it as profitable as he could. He actually diluted the tournament.

I was surprised he didn't announce that they would do 13u and 14u every year

That would mean these teams would have to do it 2 years in a row. I don’t think you will get a lot of takers on that. Especially the ones from outside the northeast

Good point. Wonder what they do for location next year. By adding girls, they'll double that revenue anyway

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s funny how tryouts are coming. Email after email advertisements of tryouts. This is where directors pad their pay checks. Get boat loads of kids to come to tryouts. Teams are doing this.Teams are doing that. It sounds so great. We welcome you. Look at our college commits. Come try out.(pay the fee). What they don’t put in those advertising emails is that the whole team is probably returning. So all those kids trying out are trying out for maybe 2 slots.(30 kids now on team). Everybody else gets put on a B or C team. None of those emails seem to say this.

The alternative is ?

This is awful a kid from TX played for LI WSYL. Parents were supposed to submit report cards to prove residence for a team. If that kid wanted to play he should have played for a Texas team. That is where he went to school. That FB post with him in his local Texas club for his Topps card is comical. There are a lot of teams that could have added on-age players that were outside of the 100 miles restriction. Team 91 cheated, knew they cheated and Jake let them cheat. Certainly national teams like Sweetlax, madlax etc should use Team 91 example for future WYSLs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Who cares? At least the kid was on age. Lets talk about other LI teams: Express, Rebels, Regulators....What about their performance? Did they have out of state kids or older kids?

Who cares?? The LI narrative is always that non LI teams use holdbacks. The WSYL is where they can play vs on age teams. That's great, until they go ahead and bring their MVP in from Texas to help win them the title. Bush league.

The Woodlands Mens Lacrosse Club facebook page, enough said.

Someone is very bitter

Not bitter JA you cheated..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is awful a kid from TX played for LI WSYL. Parents were supposed to submit report cards to prove residence for a team. If that kid wanted to play he should have played for a Texas team. That is where he went to school. That FB post with him in his local Texas club for his Topps card is comical. There are a lot of teams that could have added on-age players that were outside of the 100 miles restriction. Team 91 cheated, knew they cheated and Jake let them cheat. Certainly national teams like Sweetlax, madlax etc should use Team 91 example for future WYSLs.

All it takes is a couple of emails to the WSYL sponsors and the problem is solved.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s funny how tryouts are coming. Email after email advertisements of tryouts. This is where directors pad their pay checks. Get boat loads of kids to come to tryouts. Teams are doing this.Teams are doing that. It sounds so great. We welcome you. Look at our college commits. Come try out.(pay the fee). What they don’t put in those advertising emails is that the whole team is probably returning. So all those kids trying out are trying out for maybe 2 slots.(30 kids now on team). Everybody else gets put on a B or C team. None of those emails seem to say this.

The alternative is ?

Stay where you are or leave. The grass is rarely greener. B team products are an absolute joke, you're better off not playing club at all. Same expense as A product, low level coaching, teammates than can barely catch and throw. Directors convince you it's better to see the field on their lesser team than be a role player on A. Hogwash either way, if you're standing on the sideline for 3500 dollars leave, if the alternative is a 3500 dollar B team find another program. Why do people continue to pay the same price for B teams. If you buy a lower model car do you pay the same price?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is awful a kid from TX played for LI WSYL. Parents were supposed to submit report cards to prove residence for a team. If that kid wanted to play he should have played for a Texas team. That is where he went to school. That FB post with him in his local Texas club for his Topps card is comical. There are a lot of teams that could have added on-age players that were outside of the 100 miles restriction. Team 91 cheated, knew they cheated and Jake let them cheat. Certainly national teams like Sweetlax, madlax etc should use Team 91 example for future WYSLs.

Time to let it go as the LI dads on here are saying. That's fine, then no more holdback, or LI school age cut off whining going forward. OK?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is awful a kid from TX played for LI WSYL. Parents were supposed to submit report cards to prove residence for a team. If that kid wanted to play he should have played for a Texas team. That is where he went to school. That FB post with him in his local Texas club for his Topps card is comical. There are a lot of teams that could have added on-age players that were outside of the 100 miles restriction. Team 91 cheated, knew they cheated and Jake let them cheat. Certainly national teams like Sweetlax, madlax etc should use Team 91 example for future WYSLs.

If Sweetlax, Madlax, etc have players that relocate beyond the 100 mile radius they can absolutely do what 91 did - present the situation to the WSYL and ask them to rule on eligibility - if the player is deemed eligible he can play with them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Jake is beyond his expiration date and needs to pass this event onto someone that the kids can relate to like a Paul Rabil or Rob Pannell and who seem to have more and better knowledge and where with all to promote as s the sport and the event and can relate to the kids. This event was more about Jake and his new sports drink than the spirit of the game and the boys. I don’t think there was one kid who even knows who Jake is Having the 2025’s and the 2026’s play at the same venue at the same time was not about Covid, but cutting expenses and making it as profitable as he could. He actually diluted the tournament.

I was surprised he didn't announce that they would do 13u and 14u every year

That would mean these teams would have to do it 2 years in a row. I don’t think you will get a lot of takers on that. Especially the ones from outside the northeast

Good point. Wonder what they do for location next year. By adding girls, they'll double that revenue anyway

Denver was great when my older son did it.

No alternative. Just stating a funny observation.

Should still be two separate venues.

WSYL is over. 91 won. Move on. No other LI team is capable of beating them. Even without certain kids. And the reason why simple:

Instead of complaining, the Directors/Coaches should focus on what areas their teams need to improve upon. Most of these "coaches" do not DEVELOP kids or cultivate a team environment. They simply throw out the 11 kids they deem "the best" players and then scream for 48 minutes: "Good time, wheels, Syracuse, run, walk, breathe, speak, dont speak, shoot..." That's not coaching, its embarassing.

The successful coaches/programs build a team, tweak pieces here or there but actually mold that team over the course of years. I bet the "TX kid" was playing for them since he was in diapers. I'd bet he was a middie at one point or even a defender too. Good coaches find what a kid's skill set is and then build it into the system. At age 14, when a kid is asked "What position do you play?" The answer should be "I play lacrosse" The coaches/programs that get that are usually the successful ones.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should still be two separate venues.

Ha, yeah. Imagine 600 13 year old boys and 600 13 year old girls at the opening ceremonies and banquet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It’s funny how tryouts are coming. Email after email advertisements of tryouts. This is where directors pad their pay checks. Get boat loads of kids to come to tryouts. Teams are doing this.Teams are doing that. It sounds so great. We welcome you. Look at our college commits. Come try out.(pay the fee). What they don’t put in those advertising emails is that the whole team is probably returning. So all those kids trying out are trying out for maybe 2 slots.(30 kids now on team). Everybody else gets put on a B or C team. None of those emails seem to say this.

The alternative is ?

Stay where you are or leave. The grass is rarely greener. B team products are an absolute joke, you're better off not playing club at all. Same expense as A product, low level coaching, teammates than can barely catch and throw. Directors convince you it's better to see the field on their lesser team than be a role player on A. Hogwash either way, if you're standing on the sideline for 3500 dollars leave, if the alternative is a 3500 dollar B team find another program. Why do people continue to pay the same price for B teams. If you buy a lower model car do you pay the same price?

Clearly you don't know how much various clubs cost. And how do you think your son is going to get any attention if he's never on the field?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Should still be two separate venues.

Ha, yeah. Imagine 600 13 year old boys and 600 13 year old girls at the opening ceremonies and banquet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

WSYL is over. 91 won. Move on. No other LI team is capable of beating them. Even without certain kids. And the reason why simple:

Instead of complaining, the Directors/Coaches should focus on what areas their teams need to improve upon. Most of these "coaches" do not DEVELOP kids or cultivate a team environment. They simply throw out the 11 kids they deem "the best" players and then scream for 48 minutes: "Good time, wheels, Syracuse, run, walk, breathe, speak, dont speak, shoot..." That's not coaching, its embarassing.

The successful coaches/programs build a team, tweak pieces here or there but actually mold that team over the course of years. I bet the "TX kid" was playing for them since he was in diapers. I'd bet he was a middie at one point or even a defender too. Good coaches find what a kid's skill set is and then build it into the system. At age 14, when a kid is asked "What position do you play?" The answer should be "I play lacrosse" The coaches/programs that get that are usually the successful ones.

Wasnt the 14u game close? Minus the MVP, would it be unrealistic to say that BBL, a NJ team, could have won?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wasnt the 14u game close? Minus the MVP, would it be unrealistic to say that BBL, a NJ team, could have won?

Without the MVP they wouldn't have even been in the championship game.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wasnt the 14u game close? Minus the MVP, would it be unrealistic to say that BBL, a NJ team, could have won?

Without the MVP they wouldn't have even been in the championship game.

Sure looks that way. He had 16 goals in their 1st 7 games. three 1 goal wins, and two 2 goal wins in those games. Keep complaining about holdbacks LI dads!

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Just get your checkbooks ready as tryout season is upon you... Lax koolaide will be being served on the sidelines for $5 a glass... Drink up!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Yeah just move on its ok that they cheated to win....but its 91 so that's fine

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

No 2025 son here either, but I do hear LI parents complain about holdbacks (keep reading in here if you dont think they obsess about it) and how the WSYL is a true test of on age lacrosse club teams. To bring in a stud from Texas to get them the win makes me laugh at their complaints about kids a few months older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Sure, it's sad to complain about it. More sad to break U14 tournament rules to get a win.

Lets talk about the woman with Express that got into it with the Iroquois. Any statement from Express yet?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Obviously you are new in here. Most posts and topics are sad and pathetic.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Haha. Imagine being on a lacrosse forum complaining about a game that you have no skin in and calling others sad and pathetic. 👌👌👌👌👌

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Yeah just move on its ok that they cheated to win....but its 91 so that's fine

No one cheated.

Sounds like you need someone to call the waaa-ambulance!

Time to move on. Games are over.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Yeah just move on its ok that they cheated to win....but its 91 so that's fine

No one cheated.

Sounds like you need someone to call the waaa-ambulance!

Time to move on. Games are over.

91 dad?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Yeah just move on its ok that they cheated to win....but its 91 so that's fine

No one cheated.

Sounds like you need someone to call the waaa-ambulance!

Time to move on. Games are over.

91 dad?

How could anyone possibly defend the Texas kid playing? There's no way to say that wasn't violating the rules. 91 AND WSYL should be embarrassed. If 91 got some kind of special exception, it would be great for a 91 dad to let the board know. AND I realize that it's one kid and 91 likely still wins, but why was an exception made? Our team has a kid that has played since 2nd grade that missed the age cutoff by 1 month. He sat out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Yeah just move on its ok that they cheated to win....but its 91 so that's fine

No one cheated.

Sounds like you need someone to call the waaa-ambulance!

Time to move on. Games are over.

91 dad?

How could anyone possibly defend the Texas kid playing? There's no way to say that wasn't violating the rules. 91 AND WSYL should be embarrassed. If 91 got some kind of special exception, it would be great for a 91 dad to let the board know. AND I realize that it's one kid and 91 likely still wins, but why was an exception made? Our team has a kid that has played since 2nd grade that missed the age cutoff by 1 month. He sat out.

91 likely wins? A previous poster said he had 15+ goals and they won three 1 goal games and two 2 goal games. I am guessing they do NOT win. What if VLC and Madlax got to choose one older kid each that was an MVP caliber team. I would bet they win the 91 game at least.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Yeah just move on its ok that they cheated to win....but its 91 so that's fine

No one cheated.

Sounds like you need someone to call the waaa-ambulance!

Time to move on. Games are over.

91 dad?

How could anyone possibly defend the Texas kid playing? There's no way to say that wasn't violating the rules. 91 AND WSYL should be embarrassed. If 91 got some kind of special exception, it would be great for a 91 dad to let the board know. AND I realize that it's one kid and 91 likely still wins, but why was an exception made? Our team has a kid that has played since 2nd grade that missed the age cutoff by 1 month. He sat out.

Because they won. Give him a few weeks. When they lose to Laxachusetts, Madlax, 3d NE, Hawks or some other team that will have a few older kids and he will be crying about losing to older 2025s.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

man you guys are sad and pathetic. Texas or not, its over, move on NO REALLY MOVE ON. Are you that bored in life that this is what you obsess over? Imagine if your kids grow up and become as obsessed and pathetic as you guys are, how proud you would be. (and I have no son in 25, but I was told I had to check out this thread for pure comedy)
Cant imagine the way you talk to your sons is this is how you act on anonymous forums

Yeah just move on its ok that they cheated to win....but its 91 so that's fine

No one cheated.

Sounds like you need someone to call the waaa-ambulance!

Time to move on. Games are over.

91 dad?

How could anyone possibly defend the Texas kid playing? There's no way to say that wasn't violating the rules. 91 AND WSYL should be embarrassed. If 91 got some kind of special exception, it would be great for a 91 dad to let the board know. AND I realize that it's one kid and 91 likely still wins, but why was an exception made? Our team has a kid that has played since 2nd grade that missed the age cutoff by 1 month. He sat out.

Because they won. Give him a few weeks. When they lose to Laxachusetts, Madlax, 3d NE, Hawks or some other team that will have a few older kids and he will be crying about losing to older 2025s.

Typical 91 move...

OK, let's simplify:

Seaford kid plays for 91 starting in 2nd grade
Kid submitted all Seaford residence and school paperwork and was approved in 2020 for WSYL
Same kid is on Team 91 and living on Long Island in July 2020
Kid moves to TX (during Covid) and continues to practice and play regularly with 91
Parents and 91 request and confirm with WSYL Organization that kid is still eligible due to unique circumstances
Multiple teams see kid during qualifiers and post the TX kid issue here on BOTC.
Several teams know, and even CoachC knows.
Kid and parents provide photo with TX club info and did not hide in any way
Kid was great in Qualifiers
Kid comes up frequently and works his rear end off.
Kid comes back full time after school year finishes in TX
Kid is really great in WSYL
91 won 5 games and lost 0 in preliminaries
91 wins quarterfinal and semi final games
91 Plays in Championship game on TV and wins 9-5

91 Received Trophy from Jake and Quint and are told they are the Champs
Kid gets a plaque and a watch from WSYL

91 not giving back trophy
Kid not giving back plaque or watch

Signed

The Champs

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK, let's simplify:

Seaford kid plays for 91 starting in 2nd grade
Kid submitted all Seaford residence and school paperwork and was approved in 2020 for WSYL
Same kid is on Team 91 and living on Long Island in July 2020
Kid moves to TX (during Covid) and continues to practice and play regularly with 91
Parents and 91 request and confirm with WSYL Organization that kid is still eligible due to unique circumstances
Multiple teams see kid during qualifiers and post the TX kid issue here on BOTC.
Several teams know, and even CoachC knows.
Kid and parents provide photo with TX club info and did not hide in any way
Kid was great in Qualifiers
Kid comes up frequently and works his rear end off.
Kid comes back full time after school year finishes in TX
Kid is really great in WSYL
91 won 5 games and lost 0 in preliminaries
91 wins quarterfinal and semi final games
91 Plays in Championship game on TV and wins 9-5

91 Received Trophy from Jake and Quint and are told they are the Champs
Kid gets a plaque and a watch from WSYL

91 not giving back trophy
Kid not giving back plaque or watch

Signed

The Champs

Thank you . That was an amazing explanation. Must have taken you some time to put that all together . Your brain must hurt now . Wear your champion shirt proudly , you're amazing ....oh I forgot it's your son that plays...your son is amazing . Scream that loudly and proudly .

Hi my name is Johnny and I would love to come to your university....

well kid your grades aren't that great what else have you done ?

Oh, I won the wsyl in 7th grade and my dad says I'm amazing at lacrosse .

See that door over there ? Don't let it hit you on the way out .

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK, let's simplify:

Seaford kid plays for 91 starting in 2nd grade
Kid submitted all Seaford residence and school paperwork and was approved in 2020 for WSYL
Same kid is on Team 91 and living on Long Island in July 2020
Kid moves to TX (during Covid) and continues to practice and play regularly with 91
Parents and 91 request and confirm with WSYL Organization that kid is still eligible due to unique circumstances
Multiple teams see kid during qualifiers and post the TX kid issue here on BOTC.
Several teams know, and even CoachC knows.
Kid and parents provide photo with TX club info and did not hide in any way
Kid was great in Qualifiers
Kid comes up frequently and works his rear end off.
Kid comes back full time after school year finishes in TX
Kid is really great in WSYL
91 won 5 games and lost 0 in preliminaries
91 wins quarterfinal and semi final games
91 Plays in Championship game on TV and wins 9-5

91 Received Trophy from Jake and Quint and are told they are the Champs
Kid gets a plaque and a watch from WSYL

91 not giving back trophy
Kid not giving back plaque or watch

Signed

The Champs

If above is what happened congrats to the boy and family. Plus the people who organize get to make the rules and why wouldn't you want to let a kid play in these circumstances. Glad his coaches reached out to ask for him to play. If this world had some more empathy we all would be better off. I have no affiliation with 91 and not from LI and have multiple sons who play for teams that lose more to 91 than win. These guys are just good! If you truly appreciate the game of lacrosse and you have chance to watch them at a summer tournament sit back and enjoy.

Get a life and stop living through your kid

Don't complain when you lose to teams with older 2025s then. Those are the rules

Was it offered to all teams that they could bring back players that had moved away?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't complain when you lose to teams with older 2025s then. Those are the rules

Haha. Not a chance holdback dad and I am not affiliated with 91 in any way. Your argument makes zero sense.

The Texas kid definitely deserved an opportunity to play in the WSYL but for a Texas team! There were several at qualifiers. I am sure he would have made a difference for a Texas team. Did Texas teams have an option for adding him to their teams after he moved? Obviously 91 wanted the kid to play for them because he is so good. If he wasn't so good then 91 would have replaced him. Teams in Maryland have lots of lax kids that move all the time because of all the military families in the area. Families are often moving back and forth from states with a heavy military presence such as Texas, Florida and North Carolina. 91 cheated and got away with it. Why even bother requiring school records or 100 mile rule. The rule is different for the least populated areas. Maybe should be a much smaller area in urban areas like Long Island, Philly, Baltimore etc. like 20 miles. 91 wouldn't have made it out of pool play without the MVP. Looking forward to next year when other teams use this 91 loophole to add kids.

Still Champs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK, let's simplify:

Seaford kid plays for 91 starting in 2nd grade
Kid submitted all Seaford residence and school paperwork and was approved in 2020 for WSYL
Same kid is on Team 91 and living on Long Island in July 2020
Kid moves to TX (during Covid) and continues to practice and play regularly with 91
Parents and 91 request and confirm with WSYL Organization that kid is still eligible due to unique circumstances
Multiple teams see kid during qualifiers and post the TX kid issue here on BOTC.
Several teams know, and even CoachC knows.
Kid and parents provide photo with TX club info and did not hide in any way
Kid was great in Qualifiers
Kid comes up frequently and works his rear end off.
Kid comes back full time after school year finishes in TX
Kid is really great in WSYL
91 won 5 games and lost 0 in preliminaries
91 wins quarterfinal and semi final games
91 Plays in Championship game on TV and wins 9-5

91 Received Trophy from Jake and Quint and are told they are the Champs
Kid gets a plaque and a watch from WSYL

91 not giving back trophy
Kid not giving back plaque or watch

Signed

The Champs

Thanks for the explanation. This makes sense.

Is the Elephant in the room not going to be addressed? Just getting swept under the rug?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't complain when you lose to teams with older 2025s then. Those are the rules

Haha. Not a chance holdback dad and I am not affiliated with 91 in any way. Your argument makes zero sense.

Neither am I , but I agree with him. If a tournament is grade based and there are older kids on a team, dont complain. If a tournament is area based, and a team got tournament heads to approve a player, don't complain. Cant have it both ways.

Can any LI team beta 91, TODAY? NO, so move on. Lets get back to bashing these other teams and their mediocrity...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the Elephant in the room not going to be addressed? Just getting swept under the rug?

🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘🥍🥍🥍🥍🥍🥍🥍🥍🥍🥍

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK, let's simplify:

Seaford kid plays for 91 starting in 2nd grade
Kid submitted all Seaford residence and school paperwork and was approved in 2020 for WSYL
Same kid is on Team 91 and living on Long Island in July 2020
Kid moves to TX (during Covid) and continues to practice and play regularly with 91
Parents and 91 request and confirm with WSYL Organization that kid is still eligible due to unique circumstances
Multiple teams see kid during qualifiers and post the TX kid issue here on BOTC.
Several teams know, and even CoachC knows.
Kid and parents provide photo with TX club info and did not hide in any way
Kid was great in Qualifiers
Kid comes up frequently and works his rear end off.
Kid comes back full time after school year finishes in TX
Kid is really great in WSYL
91 won 5 games and lost 0 in preliminaries
91 wins quarterfinal and semi final games
91 Plays in Championship game on TV and wins 9-5

91 Received Trophy from Jake and Quint and are told they are the Champs
Kid gets a plaque and a watch from WSYL

91 not giving back trophy
Kid not giving back plaque or watch

Signed

The Champs

This win will always have a big asterisk on it it. Did parents and 91 request an exception? Would be great to hear from WSYL as to how it was handled.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the Elephant in the room not going to be addressed? Just getting swept under the rug?

I would guess that Express parents were told not to discuss.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the Elephant in the room not going to be addressed? Just getting swept under the rug?

I would guess that Express parents were told not to discuss.

I think the only ones that should comment are the ones that were there and know what happened. Too much hearsay.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Don't complain when you lose to teams with older 2025s then. Those are the rules

Haha. Not a chance holdback dad and I am not affiliated with 91 in any way. Your argument makes zero sense.

Neither am I , but I agree with him. If a tournament is grade based and there are older kids on a team, dont complain. If a tournament is area based, and a team got tournament heads to approve a player, don't complain. Cant have it both ways.

My point is it’s an apples and oranges argument made. Two totally different topics

1. Rules exception-
I don’t agree with WSYL determination on the exception made. With the way WSYL rules are currently written, at time of qualifier tournament, a roster should be set with no exceptions to the rules. I agree with complaints to bring proper change to enforce the rules set.

2. holdback advantage-
holdback recognition (not complaining) will be minimal if “holdback centric” teams were a little more humble when they beat up on “on age centric” grade based teams rather than talk smack and pound chest. This is why it’s good to throw in an age based tournament every now and again to keep all honest, so to speak, and at same time figure out what a team needs to better develop.

Bottom line - two totally different topics

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the Elephant in the room not going to be addressed? Just getting swept under the rug?

I would guess that Express parents were told not to discuss.

I think the only ones that should comment are the ones that were there and know what happened. Too much hearsay.

Express should set the record straight then.

All these World Series fans going to see the importance of that event after this weekend and laxachusetts 2025 and 3D New England meet in finals at Primetime.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK, let's simplify:

Seaford kid plays for 91 starting in 2nd grade
Kid submitted all Seaford residence and school paperwork and was approved in 2020 for WSYL
Same kid is on Team 91 and living on Long Island in July 2020
Kid moves to TX (during Covid) and continues to practice and play regularly with 91
Parents and 91 request and confirm with WSYL Organization that kid is still eligible due to unique circumstances
Multiple teams see kid during qualifiers and post the TX kid issue here on BOTC.
Several teams know, and even CoachC knows.
Kid and parents provide photo with TX club info and did not hide in any way
Kid was great in Qualifiers
Kid comes up frequently and works his rear end off.
Kid comes back full time after school year finishes in TX
Kid is really great in WSYL
91 won 5 games and lost 0 in preliminaries
91 wins quarterfinal and semi final games
91 Plays in Championship game on TV and wins 9-5

91 Received Trophy from Jake and Quint and are told they are the Champs
Kid gets a plaque and a watch from WSYL

91 not giving back trophy
Kid not giving back plaque or watch

Signed

The Champs

This win will always have a big asterisk on it it. Did parents and 91 request an exception? Would be great to hear from WSYL as to how it was handled.

Jake knew. Still Champs!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OK, let's simplify:

Seaford kid plays for 91 starting in 2nd grade
Kid submitted all Seaford residence and school paperwork and was approved in 2020 for WSYL
Same kid is on Team 91 and living on Long Island in July 2020
Kid moves to TX (during Covid) and continues to practice and play regularly with 91
Parents and 91 request and confirm with WSYL Organization that kid is still eligible due to unique circumstances
Multiple teams see kid during qualifiers and post the TX kid issue here on BOTC.
Several teams know, and even CoachC knows.
Kid and parents provide photo with TX club info and did not hide in any way
Kid was great in Qualifiers
Kid comes up frequently and works his rear end off.
Kid comes back full time after school year finishes in TX
Kid is really great in WSYL
91 won 5 games and lost 0 in preliminaries
91 wins quarterfinal and semi final games
91 Plays in Championship game on TV and wins 9-5

91 Received Trophy from Jake and Quint and are told they are the Champs
Kid gets a plaque and a watch from WSYL

91 not giving back trophy
Kid not giving back plaque or watch

Signed

The Champs

This win will always have a big asterisk on it it. Did parents and 91 request an exception? Would be great to hear from WSYL as to how it was handled.

Jake knew. Still Champs!

you or the kids?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the Elephant in the room not going to be addressed? Just getting swept under the rug?

I would guess that Express parents were told not to discuss.

I think the only ones that should comment are the ones that were there and know what happened. Too much hearsay.

Express should set the record straight then.

Dont hold your breath.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Is the Elephant in the room not going to be addressed? Just getting swept under the rug?

I would guess that Express parents were told not to discuss.

I think the only ones that should comment are the ones that were there and know what happened. Too much hearsay.

Express should set the record straight then.

Yes, he/they should have a pretty close source

I was there. If it didn't happen, why is Express so quiet about it?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was there. If it didn't happen, why is Express so quiet about it?

Do your research. You'll know.

I thank God every day that I don't live on the Island and only have to deal with "yous" guys 3-4 times a year. You are arrogant, loud know-it-alls. And you park like fools. JS out there getting pimping his kids. As my son said, "thank God I don't have one of his kids in my grade".

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was there. If it didn't happen, why is Express so quiet about it?

Do your research. You'll know.

Huh?

Anyone have any intel on Checkmate Lacrosse out of GC? Saw a tryout announcement and have never heard of them.

I know asking about a non-AAAA team is always risky here, but I'm wondering if it might be an option for my son.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was there. If it didn't happen, why is Express so quiet about it?

Do your research. You'll know.

Huh?

The question should be "WHO within the organization could have made these comments and the club stay silent about it?"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was there. If it didn't happen, why is Express so quiet about it?

Do your research. You'll know.

Huh?

The question should be "WHO within the organization could have made these comments and the club stay silent about it?"

I thought I read somewhere (maybe Reddit) that it was the mom of a backup middy who doesn't play much.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was there. If it didn't happen, why is Express so quiet about it?

Do your research. You'll know.

Huh?

The question should be "WHO within the organization could have made these comments and the club stay silent about it?"

I thought I read somewhere (maybe Reddit) that it was the mom of a backup middy who doesn't play much.

Wrong

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was there. If it didn't happen, why is Express so quiet about it?

Do your research. You'll know.

Huh?

Lots of people know who the woman is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was there. If it didn't happen, why is Express so quiet about it?

Do your research. You'll know.

Huh?

The question should be "WHO within the organization could have made these comments and the club stay silent about it?"

👆👆👆☝☝☝☝

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was there. If it didn't happen, why is Express so quiet about it?

Do your research. You'll know.

Huh?

The question should be "WHO within the organization could have made these comments and the club stay silent about it?"

I thought I read somewhere (maybe Reddit) that it was the mom of a backup middy who doesn't play much.

Why would they care about addressing it if it was the mom of a middie who rarely played?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was there. If it didn't happen, why is Express so quiet about it?

Do your research. You'll know.

Huh?

Lots of people know who the woman is.

Yeah. People know her. She's definitely the mom of a kid who doesn't play a lot.

2 different topics:

-91: Won, its over , move on
-Express: Parents are Laxaholics. Sit back and watch them embarass themselves & their kids on/off field

What about Regulators & Rebels? Heard the Rebs coach got flagged for carrying on? Regs coach seems composed. They looked good but had a tough back-to-back draw

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any intel on Checkmate Lacrosse out of GC? Saw a tryout announcement and have never heard of them.

I know asking about a non-AAAA team is always risky here, but I'm wondering if it might be an option for my son.

Years ago they were run and owned by Gordon Purdie (Adelphi HC and HOF laxer). They were a small organization with lots of Adelphi alum and players helping coach and train. Probably a low B level. I heard he sold and it fell apart once they moved away from GC. If its back and he's involved it is a good inexpensive option away from the hyper competitive nonsense.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2 different topics:

-91: Won, its over , move on
-Express: Parents are Laxaholics. Sit back and watch them embarass themselves & their kids on/off field

What about Regulators & Rebels? Heard the Rebs coach got flagged for carrying on? Regs coach seems composed. They looked good but had a tough back-to-back draw

Agree. Congrats 91 now move on.

WSYL over now everyone you play will be older, not grade age, guest players, you name it. Deal with it. Everyone will be chasing the big clubs to get their kid recruited. So unrealistic for a 2025 to be thinking about that already. Sadly for most of them it's not much fun anymore. Nowadays if you tell a coach or program you're not looking to play in college you become an outsider.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

2 different topics:

-91: Won, its over , move on
-Express: Parents are Laxaholics. Sit back and watch them embarass themselves & their kids on/off field

What about Regulators & Rebels? Heard the Rebs coach got flagged for carrying on? Regs coach seems composed. They looked good but had a tough back-to-back draw

Agree. Congrats 91 now move on.

WSYL over now everyone you play will be older, not grade age, guest players, you name it. Deal with it. Everyone will be chasing the big clubs to get their kid recruited. So unrealistic for a 2025 to be thinking about that already. Sadly for most of them it's not much fun anymore. Nowadays if you tell a coach or program you're not looking to play in college you become an outsider.

You guys see guest players regularly? I thought that was a soccer thing.

This 2025 age group is kinda an enigma. Interesting how these the teams have changed each year over year, in terms improving a lot to becoming the best vs teams sliding down.

Towers should keep his mouth shut ! Has no clue!

Rebels Coach got no flag on him. Great staff.
Went 3-3 and lost to BBL in over Time

Winner of wsyl - team 91 shock * ( with an asterisk)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone have any intel on Checkmate Lacrosse out of GC? Saw a tryout announcement and have never heard of them.

I know asking about a non-AAAA team is always risky here, but I'm wondering if it might be an option for my son.

I don’t know about the coaching. My son’s team played them and they are a B level team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Towers should keep his mouth shut ! Has no clue!

About?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Towers should keep his mouth shut ! Has no clue!

About?

The lady that got into it with the Iroquois in assuming. Was she there this weekend?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these World Series fans going to see the importance of that event after this weekend and laxachusetts 2025 and 3D New England meet in finals at Primetime.

Almost. 3dNE takes it all.

To all those LI crazies crying about age and holdbacks, get over yourself. It HS now for these kids. Not one LI team in the winners bracket. Coincidence? I think not

I give the refs a lot of credit. The disrespect from the parents in the stands and even the coaches is next level. Why anyone would get into officiating is beyond me. Do people seriously think the officials care about the outcome? Is your screaming and carrying on going to change the calls or maybe just maybe anger the ref enough to not give you the call the next time. It's not enjoyable for for your player or people near you to listen to you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To all those LI crazies crying about age and holdbacks, get over yourself. It HS now for these kids. Not one LI team in the winners bracket. Coincidence? I think not

Your butt is clearly still hurting from the World Series tournament. Haha. Poor Johnny couldn’t compete on age. Whaaa! Whaaa!

Whatever it take to build you and your sons self-confidence. Unfortunately, deep down, you know it’s only because you play down. Fool.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Winner of wsyl - team 91 shock * ( with an asterisk)

Maybe in your mind. They won nobody cares move on. They get to promote it all over the country and will have 100 kids at each 91 area tryout. Who is the dummy, the organization that won or the other 100 trying to copy their business model?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebels Coach got no flag on him. Great staff.
Went 3-3 and lost to BBL in over Time

That is you idea of greatness? WOW

Used to be/ probably still is run by Gordon Purdue / Adelphi.... Program split into the Sharks which then jumped over to join Recon. Probably a team you can join at any time because of #s

Some on here think only thing that matters is wins. They are the very ignorant. Lacrosse is always been and always will be a passion for the sport. Getting kids better, prepared them for High School and college.

The “Texas kid” is from Seaford . He lived in Seaford until this year. He was given the exemption because he has been playing with the team since 2 nd grade AND he was a Seaford resident last year when the tournament was cancelled. So he would have played last year we’re it not for Covid. Let’s not pretend the team brought down a kid from Texas just for the tournament. You lost, get over it. Oh amd BTW we had two kids sit out the tournament because they were age ineligible by a month also.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The “Texas kid” is from Seaford . He lived in Seaford until this year. He was given the exemption because he has been playing with the team since 2 nd grade AND he was a Seaford resident last year when the tournament was cancelled. So he would have played last year we’re it not for Covid. Let’s not pretend the team brought down a kid from Texas just for the tournament. You lost, get over it. Oh amd BTW we had two kids sit out the tournament because they were age ineligible by a month also.

So the rule is that players must live within 100 miles... unless they lived within 100 miles a year ago. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The “Texas kid” is from Seaford . He lived in Seaford until this year. He was given the exemption because he has been playing with the team since 2 nd grade AND he was a Seaford resident last year when the tournament was cancelled. So he would have played last year we’re it not for Covid. Let’s not pretend the team brought down a kid from Texas just for the tournament. You lost, get over it. Oh amd BTW we had two kids sit out the tournament because they were age ineligible by a month also.

So LI holdbacks?? Thought that wasnt a thing.

What happened this weekend in CT? Looks like Express and Igloo were mediocre at best...what about 91? They there?

Great job! You are amazing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened this weekend in CT? Looks like Express and Igloo were mediocre at best...what about 91? They there?

Nope. See you at NLF

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened this weekend in CT? Looks like Express and Igloo were mediocre at best...what about 91? They there?

Nope. See you at NLF

Now why would 91 go to a second rate tournament just to beat up on the same clubs they just beat last week? Igloo, Channey, who are they? They can't even make the finals in a weak tourney, no threat. Did you forget we are #1 at 2025. See you at tryouts

The 91 jealousy is off the charts.

Question: Did 91 have 2024's on their 2025 roster at WSYL? Reason I ask is because a few kids with Shock helmets played at a Blatant tourney this weekend with their Town Jerseys on that said their names along with "2024" on the back of them. I know it is aged based and not Grad year but still makes you say "Hmmmmmmmm"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The “Texas kid” is from Seaford . He lived in Seaford until this year. He was given the exemption because he has been playing with the team since 2 nd grade AND he was a Seaford resident last year when the tournament was cancelled. So he would have played last year we’re it not for Covid. Let’s not pretend the team brought down a kid from Texas just for the tournament. You lost, get over it. Oh amd BTW we had two kids sit out the tournament because they were age ineligible by a month also.

So the rule is that players must live within 100 miles... unless they lived within 100 miles a year ago. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

No horse in this race but are you really that upset? Had the tournament been played the year it was supposed to be played the kid would have been allowed to play. However, there was a global pandemic and the event was run the following year to give the kids the opportunity to do what others before them did. YET, you are such a disgruntled never was that you need to harp on about this. I’m not 91 but Ill take the asterisk and make sure it says, This is because the petty little keyboard warrior thinks we should have taken this opportunity away from one boy because he thinks his son may have won? Whatever you do, dont look in the mirror.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What happened this weekend in CT? Looks like Express and Igloo were mediocre at best...what about 91? They there?

Nope. See you at NLF

Now why would 91 go to a second rate tournament just to beat up on the same clubs they just beat last week? Igloo, Channey, who are they? They can't even make the finals in a weak tourney, no threat. Did you forget we are #1 at 2025. See you at tryouts

Lol, “we are”. Yes the 91 Shock is a top team and the coaches did a great job improving that team from where they were in 2019 until now. But win at NLF this weekend and that is real #1. Laxchusetts won the 1st NLF I recall.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The “Texas kid” is from Seaford . He lived in Seaford until this year. He was given the exemption because he has been playing with the team since 2 nd grade AND he was a Seaford resident last year when the tournament was cancelled. So he would have played last year we’re it not for Covid. Let’s not pretend the team brought down a kid from Texas just for the tournament. You lost, get over it. Oh amd BTW we had two kids sit out the tournament because they were age ineligible by a month also.

So the rule is that players must live within 100 miles... unless they lived within 100 miles a year ago. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

No horse in this race but are you really that upset? Had the tournament been played the year it was supposed to be played the kid would have been allowed to play. However, there was a global pandemic and the event was run the following year to give the kids the opportunity to do what others before them did. YET, you are such a disgruntled never was that you need to harp on about this. I’m not 91 but Ill take the asterisk and make sure it says, This is because the petty little keyboard warrior thinks we should have taken this opportunity away from one boy because he thinks his son may have won? Whatever you do, dont look in the mirror.

No horse in the race yet you took the time interject your useless comments?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question: Did 91 have 2024's on their 2025 roster at WSYL? Reason I ask is because a few kids with Shock helmets played at a Blatant tourney this weekend with their Town Jerseys on that said their names along with "2024" on the back of them. I know it is aged based and not Grad year but still makes you say "Hmmmmmmmm"

Definitely happened, yes siree, absolutely, without a doubt, you caught them and solved the puzzle. I hear it was like 10 of them, all secret 2024s. That’s the explanation for the whole thing. Got it

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question: Did 91 have 2024's on their 2025 roster at WSYL? Reason I ask is because a few kids with Shock helmets played at a Blatant tourney this weekend with their Town Jerseys on that said their names along with "2024" on the back of them. I know it is aged based and not Grad year but still makes you say "Hmmmmmmmm"

Definitely happened, yes siree, absolutely, without a doubt, you caught them and solved the puzzle. I hear it was like 10 of them, all secret 2024s. That’s the explanation for the whole thing. Got it

This is old news. It's widely known that the 24 wolfpack goalie was playing with them along with others. On age, but 24s.

Just asking. It doesnt matter at this point. Its over. In another week nobody will even remember. Has 91 played again since WSYL? The whole 25 scene on LI is a Joke. These teams ae all watered down with inflated prices.

Does Legacy make Pinnacle schedule next week. They have cake walks in every division.
If so that's just Bad

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The “Texas kid” is from Seaford . He lived in Seaford until this year. He was given the exemption because he has been playing with the team since 2 nd grade AND he was a Seaford resident last year when the tournament was cancelled. So he would have played last year we’re it not for Covid. Let’s not pretend the team brought down a kid from Texas just for the tournament. You lost, get over it. Oh amd BTW we had two kids sit out the tournament because they were age ineligible by a month also.

So the rule is that players must live within 100 miles... unless they lived within 100 miles a year ago. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

No horse in this race but are you really that upset? Had the tournament been played the year it was supposed to be played the kid would have been allowed to play. However, there was a global pandemic and the event was run the following year to give the kids the opportunity to do what others before them did. YET, you are such a disgruntled never was that you need to harp on about this. I’m not 91 but Ill take the asterisk and make sure it says, This is because the petty little keyboard warrior thinks we should have taken this opportunity away from one boy because he thinks his son may have won? Whatever you do, dont look in the mirror.

No horse in the race yet you took the time interject your useless comments?

100%. I was also bored and found the bluster annoying enough to post.

Iroquois Nationals released a statement on their Facebook page.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question: Did 91 have 2024's on their 2025 roster at WSYL? Reason I ask is because a few kids with Shock helmets played at a Blatant tourney this weekend with their Town Jerseys on that said their names along with "2024" on the back of them. I know it is aged based and not Grad year but still makes you say "Hmmmmmmmm"

Yeah, half of "Team Huntington" had 2024 jerseys on, playing in the 2025 bracket. Makes you wonder what they were afraid of in the 2024 bracket.

And they werent impressive at all.... The rest of team was....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question: Did 91 have 2024's on their 2025 roster at WSYL? Reason I ask is because a few kids with Shock helmets played at a Blatant tourney this weekend with their Town Jerseys on that said their names along with "2024" on the back of them. I know it is aged based and not Grad year but still makes you say "Hmmmmmmmm"

Definitely happened, yes siree, absolutely, without a doubt, you caught them and solved the puzzle. I hear it was like 10 of them, all secret 2024s. That’s the explanation for the whole thing. Got it

This is old news. It's widely known that the 24 wolfpack goalie was playing with them along with others. On age, but 24s.

Old news and they didn't add anything to the team. It was the 2025s that won it.

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

What was said?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Don't hold your breath

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Don't hold your breath

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Don't hold your breath

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Don't hold your breath

Looks like the Iroquois team is really trying to stir something up on social media. Regardless of what he said / she said, it’s ridiculous that anyone is trying to use this tournament as a “woke” event. Lacrosse community is beyond inclusive. This is really a case of someone just looking to cause trouble.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Don't hold your breath

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Don't hold your breath

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Don't hold your breath

Looks like the Iroquois team is really trying to stir something up on social media. Regardless of what he said / she said, it’s ridiculous that anyone is trying to use this tournament as a “woke” event. Lacrosse community is beyond inclusive. This is really a case of someone just looking to cause trouble.

that's the funniest thing I've read on this forum--"beyond inclusive"

I can't tell you how many racial slurs and racially-loaded comments I've heard on the sidelines and that my kids have heard on the field when we were on a majority Black team.

This is old news. Lets pick a new topic. Like tryouts...Which teams are the teams "to be on"? Which ones should be avoided and why?

Avoid team 91 shock......the kid from Texas flew back home

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This is old news. Lets pick a new topic. Like tryouts...Which teams are the teams "to be on"? Which ones should be avoided and why?

At this moment, avoid the Express teams, especially 2025 Express CoachC team 😂

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

You really think they would? IL put out an article about it yesterday. Express CoachC 2025 parents were quiet as church mice at this past tournament.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Avoid team 91 shock......the kid from Texas flew back home

Wait, didn't they say he was a special circumstance because he made the team last year and it was cancelled due to covid? And he played for Team 91 for years? (laughable) He's been living in TX for 2 years and all NE and East region teams had to play on the same day/same fields in March 2021(in Delaware) to qualify for 2021 WSYL. And submit most recent school report card and birth certificate for proof of residence. Did they fly the kid in to qualify for the March 2021 qualifiers? The kid even used his Woodland TX team photo for his WSYL Tops cards. Team 91 had to fly a kid in from TX to win. Smh

My son plays for the Checkmate team. I have been very happy with the program. The coaching is players and former players of Adelphi with Gordon Purdie being the overall head coach of the program. Gordon's son who just graduated from Adelphi is coaching the 2025 team. I am impressed. In the covid era, with regulations loosened and practicing allowed I have seen a vast improvement in my son. Now, if you are looking for high intensity, pressure-filled program Checkmate is probably not for you. They are about teaching kids the fundamentals of the game. The pure enjoyment of the game. Best of luck with your final choice.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Pictures out there seem to show she isn't a mom of a player on Express.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Question: Did 91 have 2024's on their 2025 roster at WSYL? Reason I ask is because a few kids with Shock helmets played at a Blatant tourney this weekend with their Town Jerseys on that said their names along with "2024" on the back of them. I know it is aged based and not Grad year but still makes you say "Hmmmmmmmm"

Definitely happened, yes siree, absolutely, without a doubt, you caught them and solved the puzzle. I hear it was like 10 of them, all secret 2024s. That’s the explanation for the whole thing. Got it

This is old news. It's widely known that the 24 wolfpack goalie was playing with them along with others. On age, but 24s.

Old news and they didn't add anything to the team. It was the 2025s that won it.

Who cares what grade any kid is in?!?!? as long as they are on AGE.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Pictures out there seem to show she isn't a mom of a player on Express.

She 100% is a mom of a backup middie on Express. Stop trying to say otherwise. People know her in and around the team and Island.

Which LI "A" teams are worth a look?

Originally Posted by Lancerussell

My son plays for the Checkmate team. I have been very happy with the program. The coaching is players and former players of Adelphi with Gordon Purdie being the overall head coach of the program. Gordon's son who just graduated from Adelphi is coaching the 2025 team. I am impressed. In the covid era, with regulations loosened and practicing allowed I have seen a vast improvement in my son. Now, if you are looking for high intensity, pressure-filled program Checkmate is probably not for you. They are about teaching kids the fundamentals of the game. The pure enjoyment of the game. Best of luck with your final choice.

Thanks for this. I don't want my son in the hyper-crazy teams, but I saw the Checkmate team play recently and I didn't think they looked very prepared or good. I don't mean any offense but I'm hoping to find some middle ground on a team that is a bit more competitive.

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Pictures out there seem to show she isn't a mom of a player on Express.

She 100% is a mom of a backup middie on Express. Stop trying to say otherwise. People know her in and around the team and Island.

If that is the case, and it isn't who many are saying it is, then they should just make a statement.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Pictures out there seem to show she isn't a mom of a player on Express.

She 100% is a mom of a backup middie on Express. Stop trying to say otherwise. People know her in and around the team and Island.

Feel bad for that kid

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Pictures out there seem to show she isn't a mom of a player on Express.

She 100% is a mom of a backup middie on Express. Stop trying to say otherwise. People know her in and around the team and Island.

If that is the case, and it isn't who many are saying it is, then they should just make a statement.

I know we can't use names here but who are these "many" and how are they saying it was? Be vague.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Pictures out there seem to show she isn't a mom of a player on Express.

She 100% is a mom of a backup middie on Express. Stop trying to say otherwise. People know her in and around the team and Island.

If that is the case, and it isn't who many are saying it is, then they should just make a statement.

Guilty until proven innocent, eh?
Wrong. Don’t agree. Go away.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Pictures out there seem to show she isn't a mom of a player on Express.

She 100% is a mom of a backup middie on Express. Stop trying to say otherwise. People know her in and around the team and Island.

If that is the case, and it isn't who many are saying it is, then they should just make a statement.

I know we can't use names here but who are these "many" and how are they saying it was? Be vague.

Not sure who the many referenced are, but it isnt hard to look at the woman

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Pictures out there seem to show she isn't a mom of a player on Express.

She 100% is a mom of a backup middie on Express. Stop trying to say otherwise. People know her in and around the team and Island.

If that is the case, and it isn't who many are saying it is, then they should just make a statement.

Guilty until proven innocent, eh?
Wrong. Don’t agree. Go away.

If so innocent, wouldnt make a simple statement saying it was a misunderstanding?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Pictures out there seem to show she isn't a mom of a player on Express.

She 100% is a mom of a backup middie on Express. Stop trying to say otherwise. People know her in and around the team and Island.

If that is the case, and it isn't who many are saying it is, then they should just make a statement.

Guilty until proven innocent, eh?
Wrong. Don’t agree. Go away.

If innocent MAKE A STATEMENT

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

All the decent 2025 didn’t try out since they where at WSYL. heard they are still trying to recruit kids.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, Express and WSYL still have not taken responsibility for the out of control racist mom. Another statement by the Iroquois was just posted. Time for the mom and organization to step up and apologize!

Was it a mom??

Pictures out there seem to show she isn't a mom of a player on Express.

She 100% is a mom of a backup middie on Express. Stop trying to say otherwise. People know her in and around the team and Island.

If that is the case, and it isn't who many are saying it is, then they should just make a statement.

Guilty until proven innocent, eh?
Wrong. Don’t agree. Go away.

Okay, Express Parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

All the decent 2025 didn’t try out since they where at WSYL. heard they are still trying to recruit kids.

Surely there are good players who aren't on the top few teams. Guess maybe your won is on one of those top teams.

If they are still recruiting maybe the WSYL kids can go after all.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

All the decent 2025 didn’t try out since they where at WSYL. heard they are still trying to recruit kids.

Weren't the initial tryouts well before the WS?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

All the decent 2025 didn’t try out since they where at WSYL. heard they are still trying to recruit kids.

Weren't the initial tryouts well before the WS?

They were. Nassau boys were June 21-24. I think Suffolk were around then too.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

All the decent 2025 didn’t try out since they where at WSYL. heard they are still trying to recruit kids.

Not true. There are WSYL kids playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which LI "A" teams are worth a look?

Don't go to team 91 shock....the kid from Texas flew home

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which LI "A" teams are worth a look?

Don't go to team 91 shock....the kid from Texas flew home

Wasn’t this joke already made?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

All the decent 2025 didn’t try out since they where at WSYL. heard they are still trying to recruit kids.

Not true. There are WSYL kids playing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

All the decent 2025 didn’t try out since they where at WSYL. heard they are still trying to recruit kids.

Not true. There are WSYL kids playing.

Regulators were the only club team to show up. Congratulations, now you could pay an extra $500 for another lax tournament!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which LI "A" teams are worth a look?

Don't go to team 91 shock....the kid from Texas flew home

Wasn’t this joke already made?

It's still laughable!!!! 🤣😂🤣

Why isn’t Team 91 being held accountable for their behavior at WSYL banquet? How many more apologies from Jake before he has to do something?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why isn’t Team 91 being held accountable for their behavior at WSYL banquet? How many more apologies from Jake before he has to do something?

Team 91 was not involved. It was an Express parent.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which LI "A" teams are worth a look?

Umm, A teams are not built at tryouts I my opinion. They seem to recruit all year. The tryouts at the bugger clubs are for the 2nd and 3rd teams. However, 2nd tier A teams will add via tryouts. Interestingly there is definitely a AA, A and B tier on LI.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

All the decent 2025 didn’t try out since they where at WSYL. heard they are still trying to recruit kids.

That is pretty disrespectful to the kids that played. Maybe they don't have the time, money or desire to play for the so called elite travel organizations. There were a lot of solid players at the 2025 on both sides. If you looked close enough plenty of GC helmets. Last I checked they are still one of the best public programs around regardless of travel. WSYL is the one that screwed this up by hosting a do over for u14 so they wouldn't have to refund the clubs.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which LI "A" teams are worth a look?

Umm, A teams are not built at tryouts I my opinion. They seem to recruit all year. The tryouts at the bugger clubs are for the 2nd and 3rd teams. However, 2nd tier A teams will add via tryouts. Interestingly there is definitely a AA, A and B tier on LI.

None. 2025 teams current players almost all come back. You'll most likely being offered a spot on their second level teams. The problem with most organizations 2nd tier teams are coaching and commitment. You'll really have to do your homework to find out who is coaching and what is being offered. From what I've seen of the 2025's none of the second teams seem to be an attractive alternative. On top of that they want you to pay the same tuition as their top tier team. Doesn't make sense to me but some people still do it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

All the decent 2025 didn’t try out since they where at WSYL. heard they are still trying to recruit kids.

That is pretty disrespectful to the kids that played. Maybe they don't have the time, money or desire to play for the so called elite travel organizations. There were a lot of solid players at the 2025 on both sides. If you looked close enough plenty of GC helmets. Last I checked they are still one of the best public programs around regardless of travel. WSYL is the one that screwed this up by hosting a do over for u14 so they wouldn't have to refund the clubs.

There are lots of A and AA players on non-A and AA teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Anyone going to Albany next week for the NYS Regional Championship tournament?

All the decent 2025 didn’t try out since they where at WSYL. heard they are still trying to recruit kids.

That is pretty disrespectful to the kids that played. Maybe they don't have the time, money or desire to play for the so called elite travel organizations. There were a lot of solid players at the 2025 on both sides. If you looked close enough plenty of GC helmets. Last I checked they are still one of the best public programs around regardless of travel. WSYL is the one that screwed this up by hosting a do over for u14 so they wouldn't have to refund the clubs.

There are lots of A and AA players on non-A and AA teams.

Just like there are lots of B and C players with rich parents on the A and AA teams

Trying out for teams can never hurt. 100,150 bucks, a couple days of lacrosse. That’s not bad. When you make a team(everybody makes a team that wants to pay) this is more complicated. This is a big financial and time consuming thing for a family. My advice is ask questions to people who are currently on the team. Is the coach great? Is he committed? Does your kid actually get better from his practices? Does he care about all the kids or just the few people in the political loop? Do they practice all winter? Lots of these teams have 10 midfielders, 8 attack, 8 defense, 2 goalies, 1 or 2 fogos. The games are running time 40 to 45 minutes. How is play time allocated? It’s 29 tuitions being paid. I’m sure a good portion of the 29 parents feel like they are being screwed. So like I said ask questions. Good luck.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Trying out for teams can never hurt. 100,150 bucks, a couple days of lacrosse. That’s not bad. When you make a team(everybody makes a team that wants to pay) this is more complicated. This is a big financial and time consuming thing for a family. My advice is ask questions to people who are currently on the team. Is the coach great? Is he committed? Does your kid actually get better from his practices? Does he care about all the kids or just the few people in the political loop? Do they practice all winter? Lots of these teams have 10 midfielders, 8 attack, 8 defense, 2 goalies, 1 or 2 fogos. The games are running time 40 to 45 minutes. How is play time allocated? It’s 29 tuitions being paid. I’m sure a good portion of the 29 parents feel like they are being screwed. So like I said ask questions. Good luck.

This is very good advice.

No team needs 8 attack. You need 4 or maybe 5 max. On a good team, your three starters aren't coming off the field.

You can never have enough middies though!

Totally get it. Don't get me wrong they want to win. And their practices are well run. I thoroughly enjoy the coaching. It's just and I'm not trying to make excuses, during the past year most teams practiced on their own and many teams played out of state to circumvent NYS guidelines on games and tournaments during the Covid Era. So a lot of kids and club teams still played games. My son did not. He mostly did clinics and trained on his own. Again, not making excuses. And I have nothing to gain by making you a believer in the program. I agree, our first tournament I was blown away by how the other team looked compared to Checkmate. As the season moved on, I have seen a vast improvement with not just my son but the whole team. I have realized the club circuit can be very demoralizing for kids and parents. I know of one club team that continues to bring in kids through the season to try out for already filled positions. Not saying it's wrong not saying it's right either. I know you are looking for a happy medium. Best of luck to you and your son. It's a journey.

The team don’t need 8 attack. Agreed. But the club business does. Having 8 attack instead of 4 brings in another 4 tuition checks. Now if a club does this on 20 teams, do the math. Money, money, money.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The team don’t need 8 attack. Agreed. But the club business does. Having 8 attack instead of 4 brings in another 4 tuition checks. Now if a club does this on 20 teams, do the math. Money, money, money.

And THIS is why the "top" clubs aren't for everyone. Find a good team that matches your son's talent level that will keep him on the field as much as possible.

It's not complicated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Trying out for teams can never hurt. 100,150 bucks, a couple days of lacrosse. That’s not bad. When you make a team(everybody makes a team that wants to pay) this is more complicated. This is a big financial and time consuming thing for a family. My advice is ask questions to people who are currently on the team. Is the coach great? Is he committed? Does your kid actually get better from his practices? Does he care about all the kids or just the few people in the political loop? Do they practice all winter? Lots of these teams have 10 midfielders, 8 attack, 8 defense, 2 goalies, 1 or 2 fogos. The games are running time 40 to 45 minutes. How is play time allocated? It’s 29 tuitions being paid. I’m sure a good portion of the 29 parents feel like they are being screwed. So like I said ask questions. Good luck.

This is very good advice.

No team needs 8 attack. You need 4 or maybe 5 max. On a good team, your three starters aren't coming off the field.

You can never have enough middies though!

Spoken like the parent of an attackman - you can definitely have too many middies!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Which LI "A" teams are worth a look?

Umm, A teams are not built at tryouts I my opinion. They seem to recruit all year. The tryouts at the bugger clubs are for the 2nd and 3rd teams. However, 2nd tier A teams will add via tryouts. Interestingly there is definitely a AA, A and B tier on LI.

None. 2025 teams current players almost all come back. You'll most likely being offered a spot on their second level teams. The problem with most organizations 2nd tier teams are coaching and commitment. You'll really have to do your homework to find out who is coaching and what is being offered. From what I've seen of the 2025's none of the second teams seem to be an attractive alternative. On top of that they want you to pay the same tuition as their top tier team. Doesn't make sense to me but some people still do it.

Every situation is different, and it has a lot to do with the commitment by the coaches. Don’t need to shamelessly endorse a team, but our 2nd team is ideal in terms of commitment, training, roster size, year round, etc. Point is ask around and even look how the teams do at tourneys. It’s now HS for this group, you want to be on your last stop for the rest of the way. And also check the clubs ability to help with recruiting. That will be here fast.

And beware the coaches kids.... if the team has a coach's kid on it that plays the same position as your kid your gonna have issues. NO way around it. I know a few teams that adhere to the Daddy or Mommy Ball theory

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Trying out for teams can never hurt. 100,150 bucks, a couple days of lacrosse. That’s not bad. When you make a team(everybody makes a team that wants to pay) this is more complicated. This is a big financial and time consuming thing for a family. My advice is ask questions to people who are currently on the team. Is the coach great? Is he committed? Does your kid actually get better from his practices? Does he care about all the kids or just the few people in the political loop? Do they practice all winter? Lots of these teams have 10 midfielders, 8 attack, 8 defense, 2 goalies, 1 or 2 fogos. The games are running time 40 to 45 minutes. How is play time allocated? It’s 29 tuitions being paid. I’m sure a good portion of the 29 parents feel like they are being screwed. So like I said ask questions. Good luck.

This is very good advice.

No team needs 8 attack. You need 4 or maybe 5 max. On a good team, your three starters aren't coming off the field.

You can never have enough middies though!

Spoken like the parent of an attackman - you can definitely have too many middies!!

My son is actually a pole but I'll stick with "you can't have too many middies" because you need at least three lines. Especially in the middle of summer.

When the pandemic hit and shut down lacrosse, most clubs did not refund the money. Instead they pieced together practices and scrimmages best they could so they could justify hanging on to the tuition. I get it. But the biggest thing they did was inflate their rosters to almost 30 kids per team at the top tier programs. Now that is here to stay. If you go back and review the original missions of these clubs you'll see 20 to 22 players per grade, only 1 team, develop all players, blah blah blah. Now you'll hear how intense practices are with 30 kids, everyone makes everyone better, awesome practice players. Than you're asked to drive to MD or DE on Friday and watch 6 hours of lacrosse only to have your practice player see a few minutes in garbage time. If you have the time and money to burn, great, but you're just paying for a name. No youth lacrosse team needs or deserves to have 30 kids paying full tuition just to pay for the name (or owners ego). Ultimately it's up to you but don't be fooled. A kid not seeing the field on those teams can play most other places. Oh and I agree, if the coach has a son on the team it's a recipe for disaster. When will parent coaches realize it's not better for your kid to be his coach.

You do? Explain that to the coaches. They run the same 3/4 mids til they drop. And they aint "Studs" when their fresh so you can only imagine the outcome.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their seats and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here first and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong at this table, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in front of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Won't be believed on this forum but I was nearby and while I don't recall exact words there was definitely nothing racist said by either person. There was certainly a small confrontation about who I now know was Iroquois team at the Express table. I was close enough to say with confidence there was certainly zero racism involved and seemed merely about seating a team.

These statements would be especially helpful if they weren't made from anonymous witnesses from LIE "we don't belong here" - we can see where misperceptions might have occurred.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You do? Explain that to the coaches. They run the same 3/4 mids til they drop. And they aint "Studs" when their fresh so you can only imagine the outcome.

2 lines of middies works... no need for more than that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their seats and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here first and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong at this table, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in front of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Won't be believed on this forum but I was nearby and while I don't recall exact words there was definitely nothing racist said by either person. There was certainly a small confrontation about who I now know was Iroquois team at the Express table. I was close enough to say with confidence there was certainly zero racism involved and seemed merely about seating a team.

These statements would be especially helpful if they weren't made from anonymous witnesses from LIE "we don't belong here" - we can see where misperceptions might have occurred.

Well, on the flip side, the Express Karen, could have approached someone overseeing the event, informed that person of the circumstances to avoid any misconceptions. But, being the person she is "The Entitled Karen" she elected to take matters into her own hands. Typical!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their seats and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here first and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong at this table, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in front of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Won't be believed on this forum but I was nearby and while I don't recall exact words there was definitely nothing racist said by either person. There was certainly a small confrontation about who I now know was Iroquois team at the Express table. I was close enough to say with confidence there was certainly zero racism involved and seemed merely about seating a team.

These statements would be especially helpful if they weren't made from anonymous witnesses from LIE "we don't belong here" - we can see where misperceptions might have occurred.

Well, on the flip side, the Express Karen, could have approached someone overseeing the event, informed that person of the circumstances to avoid any misconceptions. But, being the person she is "The Entitled Karen" she elected to take matters into her own hands. Typical!

I believe it's how the person the comment was directed towards perceived it. I'm sure you are not a person of color.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their seats and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here first and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong at this table, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in front of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Won't be believed on this forum but I was nearby and while I don't recall exact words there was definitely nothing racist said by either person. There was certainly a small confrontation about who I now know was Iroquois team at the Express table. I was close enough to say with confidence there was certainly zero racism involved and seemed merely about seating a team.

These statements would be especially helpful if they weren't made from anonymous witnesses from LIE "we don't belong here" - we can see where misperceptions might have occurred.

Well, on the flip side, the Express Karen, could have approached someone overseeing the event, informed that person of the circumstances to avoid any misconceptions. But, being the person she is "The Entitled Karen" she elected to take matters into her own hands. Typical!

I believe it's how the person the comment was directed towards perceived it. I'm sure you are not a person of color.

I'm sure she will keep her mouth shut from now on...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their seats and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here first and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong at this table, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in front of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Won't be believed on this forum but I was nearby and while I don't recall exact words there was definitely nothing racist said by either person. There was certainly a small confrontation about who I now know was Iroquois team at the Express table. I was close enough to say with confidence there was certainly zero racism involved and seemed merely about seating a team.

These statements would be especially helpful if they weren't made from anonymous witnesses from LIE "we don't belong here" - we can see where misperceptions might have occurred.

Well, on the flip side, the Express Karen, could have approached someone overseeing the event, informed that person of the circumstances to avoid any misconceptions. But, being the person she is "The Entitled Karen" she elected to take matters into her own hands. Typical!

I believe it's how the person the comment was directed towards perceived it. I'm sure you are not a person of color.

I have to believe that this was all a HUGE misunderstanding. That said, we all can do much better to bring inclusion awareness, to all things, in a positive way. Anchoring on this incident (which could have been a misunderstanding) and dragging a person, club, event, and lax community down in the process is not it! Stop this insanity, we can do better. Feeling sad for all of us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Never happened…NO Racist Comments were made. I was there and witnessed the entire incident and it’s all the usual WOKE FAKE NEWS! Express came late to the banquet because their games ran late, the Iroquois Parents and some players were sitting at their reserved table. The mom in question very politely went up to one of the Iroquois moms and pointed out that they were at Express’ reserved table and asked if they could please move to their table so the boys could take their seats and eat their dinner. With that, she was told NO, we were here first and it’s too bad…the Express mom then said, but you don’t belong at this table, this is Express’ reserved table, the boys need to be seated to eat their dinner. The Iroquois mon proceeded to curse her out in front of all the kids yelling that she said we don’t belong here!!! The Express mom then said how trashy are you to be screaming and cursing in front of all these children and then the Iroquois mom began to yell louder calling the Express mom a “Racist Karen” and saying that she said “we don’t belong here and the Iroquois People are trash!” From my view it was very clear that she NEVER insulted the Iroquois Nation as a people and this was blown completely out of proportion like most things on Social Media.

Won't be believed on this forum but I was nearby and while I don't recall exact words there was definitely nothing racist said by either person. There was certainly a small confrontation about who I now know was Iroquois team at the Express table. I was close enough to say with confidence there was certainly zero racism involved and seemed merely about seating a team.

These statements would be especially helpful if they weren't made from anonymous witnesses from LIE "we don't belong here" - we can see where misperceptions might have occurred.

Well, on the flip side, the Express Karen, could have approached someone overseeing the event, informed that person of the circumstances to avoid any misconceptions. But, being the person she is "The Entitled Karen" she elected to take matters into her own hands. Typical!

I was at the event and I couldn’t even get someone to tell me where the water was, much less help out about a table dispute. The banquet was way over-sold and there wasn’t enough seating. Any of the teams who made it to quarter-finals were all late and found their designated team tables occupied by parents from other teams. My own son had to stand and hold his food while he waited for the people who had sat themselves at his team table to finish and leave. It was a mess.

I have no idea what actually happened between Express mom and the Iroquois parents, but I can say the banquet was a mess and it’s a shame that parents would sit at tables designated for the players of other teams and then refuse to move when the boys arrived.

I believe Express Karen completely understood what she was doing, until Iroquois's mom took offense to the words and tone, those words were delivered. And I can bet dollars to doughnuts this wasn't the first incident like this she had with a person of color. Ask yourself Express Karen; did you really have to say what you said and what you said at that time?

So the "banquet was a mess?" So that gives Express Karen the privilege to insult the Iroquois in front of a banquet so sitting at a table with family? That was a mess. Sounds like Express Karen added to the mess. Before she came along, all was going smooth...

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

People don't you realize. The more you try to justify the mishap of an irresponsible adult, the worst you sound.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Because they are not smart enough to get ahead of the story.

"Long weekend, and a lapse of judgment. If I offended anyone, although it wasn't intentional, please accept my apology."
End of story, move on. But since some are entitled, an apology is not a part of their vocabulary.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

Originally Posted by Annoy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Because they are not smart enough to get ahead of the story.

"Long weekend, and a lapse of judgment. If I offended anyone, although it wasn't intentional, please accept my apology."
End of story, move on. But since some are entitled, an apology is not a part of their vocabulary.

Long weekend, and a lapse of judgment. If I offended anyone, although it wasn't intentional, please accept my apology.
Karen

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

So, you don't think LIE needs to address anything? 👏 👏 👏

You know what's kind of funny... I've been insulted by, cursed at, I think spit at and maybe even some other worse things by women and men from Long Island... and you know what, don't really care. Just kind of accepted it as standard operating procedure.

Who we got for NLF?!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

So, you don't think LIE needs to address anything? 👏 👏 👏

Express Karen was out for blood when she found Iroquois resting from a long day at her table. After a few cocktails, her true colors came to the surface. The bridge was the table the Iroquois were resting at and Express Karen came along and blew it up.

My son plays on LIE. Express Karen should have spoken to someone in charge or said nothing to the folks sitting at the table. But elected to open her big mouth. This wasn't a 50k black-tie fundraiser event. Fast food service with a bunch of screaming kids, she should have known better. What an embarrassment! I couldn't wait to leave with my family.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays on LIE. Express Karen should have spoken to someone in charge or said nothing to the folks sitting at the table. But elected to open her big mouth. This wasn't a 50k black-tie fundraiser event. Fast food service with a bunch of screaming kids, she should have known better. What an embarrassment! I couldn't wait to leave with my family.

Did you see it happen? or hear about it from your son? I would really like to hear from someone who witnessed the event.

I was across the room and could hear the arguing while Jake was trying to quiet the crowd, but couldn’t hear what was actually going on.

Does Express plan to address this incident? If it’s as bad as it’s been made out to be they definitely need to issue an apology on behalf of their club.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

My son plays on LIE. Express Karen should have spoken to someone in charge or said nothing to the folks sitting at the table. But elected to open her big mouth. This wasn't a 50k black-tie fundraiser event. Fast food service with a bunch of screaming kids, she should have known better. What an embarrassment! I couldn't wait to leave with my family.

Why isn't LIE saying anything? It's disgusting that they haven't even acknowledged.

Why are we still talking about this? Bad decision by Exp Mom, overhyped on social media, and the sites like this keep it alive. Move on: 91 won, there was an altercation, you all got fleeced. Buy your muscle milk, shop at 5 below and close your mouths already.

Lets talk about all the other flaws people saw there: Yelling coaches, older kids, a 2 hr rain delay after 1 hr of good weather & then cxl'ing the entire day, $60 for an all you can eat buffet, no masks for anyone, anything else ? Geez

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

So, you don't think LIE needs to address anything? 👏 👏 👏

Express Karen was out for blood when she found Iroquois resting from a long day at her table. After a few cocktails, her true colors came to the surface. The bridge was the table the Iroquois were resting at and Express Karen came along and blew it up.

All parties being hosed by the event. Buncha kids with no where to sit. Just have the kids share the seats best you can. Parents stand its for the kids. I don't think any parent would object to kids sharing the kids definitely don't care. Lacrosse is known for opponents having friendly conversations and knowing each other for years. Attack and Defense especially. Demanding someones kids stand so yours can sit would lax any parent off. Especially if taken in consideration of the historical treatment of Native Americans. Me first Long Island attitude blew it.

They eere robbed of their land, their lax now their dinner table. Way to go LI parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

So, you don't think LIE needs to address anything? 👏 👏 👏

Express Karen was out for blood when she found Iroquois resting from a long day at her table. After a few cocktails, her true colors came to the surface. The bridge was the table the Iroquois were resting at and Express Karen came along and blew it up.

All parties being hosed by the event. Buncha kids with no where to sit. Just have the kids share the seats best you can. Parents stand its for the kids. I don't think any parent would object to kids sharing the kids definitely don't care. Lacrosse is known for opponents having friendly conversations and knowing each other for years. Attack and Defense especially. Demanding someones kids stand so yours can sit would lax any parent off. Especially if taken in consideration of the historical treatment of Native Americans. Me first Long Island attitude blew it.

Just curious, were there assigned seats / tables for all of the teams? Can someone who was in attendance please respond?

Yes 40 tables for 4000 people.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

So, you don't think LIE needs to address anything? 👏 👏 👏

Express Karen was out for blood when she found Iroquois resting from a long day at her table. After a few cocktails, her true colors came to the surface. The bridge was the table the Iroquois were resting at and Express Karen came along and blew it up.

All parties being hosed by the event. Buncha kids with no where to sit. Just have the kids share the seats best you can. Parents stand its for the kids. I don't think any parent would object to kids sharing the kids definitely don't care. Lacrosse is known for opponents having friendly conversations and knowing each other for years. Attack and Defense especially. Demanding someones kids stand so yours can sit would lax any parent off. Especially if taken in consideration of the historical treatment of Native Americans. Me first Long Island attitude blew it.

Just curious, were there assigned seats / tables for all of the teams? Can someone who was in attendance please respond?

Each team had an assigned table for players only. Parents did not have assigned tables. There were far more people at the event than seats.

Sort of like roster spots on these teams...11 kids play...carry 40 kids...Cha Ching!

Legacy has the easiest schedule at plc. Why, TZ makes it.,should want to challenge kids. I guess making playoff more important, which they will get smoked in. Weak weak organization . Stay away from legacy

This was a poorly run evening. Each kid on the roster did not have to purchase a ticket, but any additional family members had to purchase a ticket for $60. They had a single table (10 seats) for each team even though the rosters were 25. The kids played close to 5 games during the day in the heat, then had to rush back to their hotels to get dressed up for the event and get there for team photos. The kids and parents were exhausted and hungry when they finally got there. Parents, family members and more than 1/2 of each team had nowhere to sit. The planning was poor on the part of the WS. It is no surprise that people were frustrated.

Next year they should just host the banquet only for the players. But that will not happen. My family and I paid $180 to eat on the stairs. The banquet was a nice idea, but not what expected.

Enough with the lady. Enough with the dinner. Enough with where people had to eat. We understand it was ran poorly. We get it after hearing it for more than 2 weeks now. Move on.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Enough with the lady. Enough with the dinner. Enough with where people had to eat. We understand it was ran poorly. We get it after hearing it for more than 2 weeks now. Move on.

Ok, Karen

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

So, you don't think LIE needs to address anything? 👏 👏 👏

Express Karen was out for blood when she found Iroquois resting from a long day at her table. After a few cocktails, her true colors came to the surface. The bridge was the table the Iroquois were resting at and Express Karen came along and blew it up.

All parties being hosed by the event. Buncha kids with no where to sit. Just have the kids share the seats best you can. Parents stand its for the kids. I don't think any parent would object to kids sharing the kids definitely don't care. Lacrosse is known for opponents having friendly conversations and knowing each other for years. Attack and Defense especially. Demanding someones kids stand so yours can sit would lax any parent off. Especially if taken in consideration of the historical treatment of Native Americans. Me first Long Island attitude blew it.

I don’t think any parent objected to kids sharing tables. I think the issue was parents who had seated themselves at the players tables and then refused to move when the kids showed up.

I can’t imagine why any parent would think they were entitled to a spot at another team’s table while that team’s players stood with their food watching them eat.

A bad dinner, bad set up, tables too crowded, not enough seats, I ate on a staircase, food wasn’t good, I left hungry, there was no ice for my soda, the steak fries were cold, there wasn’t enough napkins. Let’s continue this conversation until August.

Shock not #1 anymore. Shows the WSYL is not a real test

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

So, you don't think LIE needs to address anything? 👏 👏 👏

Express Karen was out for blood when she found Iroquois resting from a long day at her table. After a few cocktails, her true colors came to the surface. The bridge was the table the Iroquois were resting at and Express Karen came along and blew it up.

All parties being hosed by the event. Buncha kids with no where to sit. Just have the kids share the seats best you can. Parents stand its for the kids. I don't think any parent would object to kids sharing the kids definitely don't care. Lacrosse is known for opponents having friendly conversations and knowing each other for years. Attack and Defense especially. Demanding someones kids stand so yours can sit would lax any parent off. Especially if taken in consideration of the historical treatment of Native Americans. Me first Long Island attitude blew it.

I don’t think any parent objected to kids sharing tables. I think the issue was parents who had seated themselves at the players tables and then refused to move when the kids showed up.

I can’t imagine why any parent would think they were entitled to a spot at another team’s table while that team’s players stood with their food watching them eat.

Lots of people feel they are entitled today. Especially people who have relatives that were wronged in the past. Time to make up for the wrongs to the present folks who did nothing.

Top 4 teams in the country left at NLF. The true championship.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left
at NLF. The true championship.

No bbl?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left at NLF. The true championship.

So THIS is really the one that counts. Thanks for clarifying Express mom.

They are lost without Wolfpack Goalie!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

So, you don't think LIE needs to address anything? 👏 👏 👏

Express Karen was out for blood when she found Iroquois resting from a long day at her table. After a few cocktails, her true colors came to the surface. The bridge was the table the Iroquois were resting at and Express Karen came along and blew it up.

All parties being hosed by the event. Buncha kids with no where to sit. Just have the kids share the seats best you can. Parents stand its for the kids. I don't think any parent would object to kids sharing the kids definitely don't care. Lacrosse is known for opponents having friendly conversations and knowing each other for years. Attack and Defense especially. Demanding someones kids stand so yours can sit would lax any parent off. Especially if taken in consideration of the historical treatment of Native Americans. Me first Long Island attitude blew it.

I don’t think any parent objected to kids sharing tables. I think the issue was parents who had seated themselves at the players tables and then refused to move when the kids showed up.

I can’t imagine why any parent would think they were entitled to a spot at another team’s table while that team’s players stood with their food watching them eat.

Lots of people feel they are entitled today. Especially people who have relatives that were wronged in the past. Time to make up for the wrongs to the present folks who did nothing.

Present folks who did nothing but benefit from those wrongs. Entitled people don't know they are entitled, need to be shown its not gonna be the same anymore.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left at NLF. The true championship.

So THIS is really the one that counts. Thanks for clarifying Express mom.

Express looked about 8 kids different this week. Those Express Nationals are awesome. That’s what we have come to expect from him. Crazy how he has conned the families into thinking this is good for them.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left
at NLF. The true championship.

No bbl?

Championship of _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left
at NLF. The true championship.

No bbl?

Championship of _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _?

Not because teams are missing. It’s because it’s the championship with greatest depth and largest field.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why are we still talking about this? Bad decision by Exp Mom, overhyped on social media, and the sites like this keep it alive. Move on: 91 won, there was an altercation, you all got fleeced. Buy your muscle milk, shop at 5 below and close your mouths already.

Lets talk about all the other flaws people saw there: Yelling coaches, older kids, a 2 hr rain delay after 1 hr of good weather & then cxl'ing the entire day, $60 for an all you can eat buffet, no masks for anyone, anything else ? Geez

Sound like you have your panties all knotted up over this, Relax

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

So, you don't think LIE needs to address anything? 👏 👏 👏

Express Karen was out for blood when she found Iroquois resting from a long day at her table. After a few cocktails, her true colors came to the surface. The bridge was the table the Iroquois were resting at and Express Karen came along and blew it up.

All parties being hosed by the event. Buncha kids with no where to sit. Just have the kids share the seats best you can. Parents stand its for the kids. I don't think any parent would object to kids sharing the kids definitely don't care. Lacrosse is known for opponents having friendly conversations and knowing each other for years. Attack and Defense especially. Demanding someones kids stand so yours can sit would lax any parent off. Especially if taken in consideration of the historical treatment of Native Americans. Me first Long Island attitude blew it.

I don’t think any parent objected to kids sharing tables. I think the issue was parents who had seated themselves at the players tables and then refused to move when the kids showed up.

I can’t imagine why any parent would think they were entitled to a spot at another team’s table while that team’s players stood with their food watching them eat.

Lots of people feel they are entitled today. Especially people who have relatives that were wronged in the past. Time to make up for the wrongs to the present folks who did nothing.

Present folks who did nothing but benefit from those wrongs. Entitled people don't know they are entitled, need to be shown its not gonna be the same anymore.

Got it. Payback time. Entitled one sounds like you. How about just some hard work and go at . But that may require looking inward at oneself instead of the blame game.

Long Island teams appear to be behind vs the rest of regions at this age when it’s a grade based tourney. I guess what Rush and Legacy are doing makes sense. It begs the question why wouldn’t clubs sorta consolidate for HS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

If everyone is wrong about what happened with Karen and the Iroquois Nationals team, why hasn't Express addressed it?THEIR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

Wrong. WSYL made a statement and look at the response there. Foregone conclusion. Why don’t you just tell the truth, you’re not biased at all and it will never be enough for you. You’re out for blood. This has become a witch hunt. Be better by building a bridge instead.

So, you don't think LIE needs to address anything? 👏 👏 👏

Express Karen was out for blood when she found Iroquois resting from a long day at her table. After a few cocktails, her true colors came to the surface. The bridge was the table the Iroquois were resting at and Express Karen came along and blew it up.

All parties being hosed by the event. Buncha kids with no where to sit. Just have the kids share the seats best you can. Parents stand its for the kids. I don't think any parent would object to kids sharing the kids definitely don't care. Lacrosse is known for opponents having friendly conversations and knowing each other for years. Attack and Defense especially. Demanding someones kids stand so yours can sit would lax any parent off. Especially if taken in consideration of the historical treatment of Native Americans. Me first Long Island attitude blew it.

I don’t think any parent objected to kids sharing tables. I think the issue was parents who had seated themselves at the players tables and then refused to move when the kids showed up.

I can’t imagine why any parent would think they were entitled to a spot at another team’s table while that team’s players stood with their food watching them eat.

Lots of people feel they are entitled today. Especially people who have relatives that were wronged in the past. Time to make up for the wrongs to the present folks who did nothing.

Present folks who did nothing but benefit from those wrongs. Entitled people don't know they are entitled, need to be shown its not gonna be the same anymore.

Got it. Payback time. Entitled one sounds like you. How about just some hard work and go at . But that may require looking inward at oneself instead of the blame game.

America is based upon the courage of people to stand up for themselves. This is the foundation of our great nation. This most definitely requires looking inward and stop blaming others . It also requires that you make a stand. King George didn't like it one bit either dude.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shock not #1 anymore. Shows the WSYL is not a real test

WSYL is a joke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shock not #1 anymore. Shows the WSYL is not a real test

WSYL is a joke

Says you because your kid can’t compete on age. You’re the joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shock not #1 anymore. Shows the WSYL is not a real test

WSYL is a joke

I would it say joke since the kids seem to love it. But the true tourneys are the NLF this weekend and Crabfest. Look at NLF today, one title for Long Island. Great for the game, but Long Island is slipping from a club standpoint, maybe. And don’t want to hear holdbacks etc. the rules allow it and it is what it is.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shock not #1 anymore. Shows the WSYL is not a real test

WSYL is a joke

I would it say joke since the kids seem to love it. But the true tourneys are the NLF this weekend and Crabfest. Look at NLF today, one title for Long Island. Great for the game, but Long Island is slipping from a club standpoint, maybe. And don’t want to hear holdbacks etc. the rules allow it and it is what it is.

This is true, LI definitely slipping from a club standpoint

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shock not #1 anymore. Shows the WSYL is not a real test

WSYL is a joke

I would it say joke since the kids seem to love it. But the true tourneys are the NLF this weekend and Crabfest. Look at NLF today, one title for Long Island. Great for the game, but Long Island is slipping from a club standpoint, maybe. And don’t want to hear holdbacks etc. the rules allow it and it is what it is.

This is true, LI definitely slipping from a club standpoint

If LI kids start holding back it will be a different ballgame. You better hope they don’t.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shock not #1 anymore. Shows the WSYL is not a real test

WSYL is a joke

I would it say joke since the kids seem to love it. But the true tourneys are the NLF this weekend and Crabfest. Look at NLF today, one title for Long Island. Great for the game, but Long Island is slipping from a club standpoint, maybe. And don’t want to hear holdbacks etc. the rules allow it and it is what it is.

This is true, LI definitely slipping from a club standpoint

Spoken like dads with this as their oldest kid. Just a quick heads up, nobody cares about wins and t-shirts starting now. It's all about your kid, is he playing and in the inner circle for recruiting promotion. if he is not in the top couple by position then enjoy hitting the "like" button as his teammates get the promotion by the club. you're going to need to figure out on your own getting him exposure. If you are outside the inner circle and not at a strong lax school you should move clubs to somewhere he can be a big dog. Running 2nd midfield at NLF isn't getting your son any looks in a couple summers. You have this year to figure it out before the 2023 summer when it matters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shock not #1 anymore. Shows the WSYL is not a real test

WSYL is a joke

I would it say joke since the kids seem to love it. But the true tourneys are the NLF this weekend and Crabfest. Look at NLF today, one title for Long Island. Great for the game, but Long Island is slipping from a club standpoint, maybe. And don’t want to hear holdbacks etc. the rules allow it and it is what it is.

This is true, LI definitely slipping from a club standpoint

Spoken like dads with this as their oldest kid. Just a quick heads up, nobody cares about wins and t-shirts starting now. It's all about your kid, is he playing and in the inner circle for recruiting promotion. if he is not in the top couple by position then enjoy hitting the "like" button as his teammates get the promotion by the club. you're going to need to figure out on your own getting him exposure. If you are outside the inner circle and not at a strong lax school you should move clubs to somewhere he can be a big dog. Running 2nd midfield at NLF isn't getting your son any looks in a couple summers. You have this year to figure it out before the 2023 summer when it matters.

Opposite, been down this road a few times and the Li lax scene has been status status quo.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left at NLF. The true championship.

CoachC brings in 8 kids from Jersey express 2024 to play this weekend and still gets smoked. Must feel great on that sideline to have your kid moved around every weekend

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left at NLF. The true championship.

CoachC brings in 8 kids from Jersey express 2024 to play this weekend and still gets smoked. Must feel great on that sideline to have your kid moved around every weekend

Is this true???

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left at NLF. The true championship.

CoachC brings in 8 kids from Jersey express 2024 to play this weekend and still gets smoked. Must feel great on that sideline to have your kid moved around every weekend

The size of that roster when those kids took the field against 91 MD was astonishing. They could've divided and played their own game. Prolly would've been a better outcome for Express TBH,

Team 91 smoked ‘em 13-7 and yes the amount of kids they had on that team was the first thing I noticed as well. They honestly could of fielded 2 teams.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left at NLF. The true championship.

CoachC brings in 8 kids from Jersey express 2024 to play this weekend and still gets smoked. Must feel great on that sideline to have your kid moved around every weekend

THIS!

Why is WSYL a joke? Oh that right you actually have to be the correct age to play in it, unlike the NLF were every team is a JV team due to all the holdbacks. Come on call a spade a spade. WSYL should be celebrated for pure lacrosse!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team 91 smoked ‘em 13-7 and yes the amount of kids they had on that team was the first thing I noticed as well. They honestly could of fielded 2 teams.

91 was dominant all weekend. Got to give it to them and no weakness.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Shock not #1 anymore. Shows the WSYL is not a real test

WSYL is a joke

I would it say joke since the kids seem to love it. But the true tourneys are the NLF this weekend and Crabfest. Look at NLF today, one title for Long Island. Great for the game, but Long Island is slipping from a club standpoint, maybe. And don’t want to hear holdbacks etc. the rules allow it and it is what it is.

This is true, LI definitely slipping from a club standpoint

Spoken like dads with this as their oldest kid. Just a quick heads up, nobody cares about wins and t-shirts starting now. It's all about your kid, is he playing and in the inner circle for recruiting promotion. if he is not in the top couple by position then enjoy hitting the "like" button as his teammates get the promotion by the club. you're going to need to figure out on your own getting him exposure. If you are outside the inner circle and not at a strong lax school you should move clubs to somewhere he can be a big dog. Running 2nd midfield at NLF isn't getting your son any looks in a couple summers. You have this year to figure it out before the 2023 summer when it matters.

Opposite, been down this road a few times and the Li lax scene has been status status quo.

If you’ve been down this road “a few times” it sounds like you have mediocre older kids. Maybe you should have picked baseball for your youngest guy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left at NLF. The true championship.

CoachC brings in 8 kids from Jersey express 2024 to play this weekend and still gets smoked. Must feel great on that sideline to have your kid moved around every weekend

THIS!

This is not true, it was 6. What a joke and insult to those kids that have been waiting and watching.

But guess what, they will all be at the Express tryouts next week.

Does anyone have their kids play for fun anymore or is it all about trophies and showcases? SMH

why wasnt 91 maryland at the WSYL? Are they one of the teams filled with all holdbacks?

Fun, lol. I think some of these clubs have contracts. If your son has fun, they charge 500 dollars more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone have their kids play for fun anymore or is it all about trophies and showcases? SMH

*RAISES HAND*

Does my son want to play in college? Yes. He does.

Is he good enough? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know. He's only a rising freshman.

If he's good enough, colleges will find him. I'm not chasing attention for him. Loyalty and friendship are more important. That's what youth sports should be about.

Love people telling other to stay away while slowly trying to figure a way to get back in. Team down 5+ kids with injuries and other commitments. Could have easily combined Rush kids at any point to fill in the spots and no one would have complained but TZ didn’t want to slight any of his parents.

What do these express parents say When CoachC brings in 8 players from Jersey?

"Thank you, may I have another?"

"Do you like Irroquois?"

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Love people telling other to stay away while slowly trying to figure a way to get back in. Team down 5+ kids with injuries and other commitments. Could have easily combined Rush kids at any point to fill in the spots and no one would have complained but TZ didn’t want to slight any of his parents.

My son has played for Legacy for the past 6 years. He lost more than he won, but the coaching he had was second to none. At any time, Coach Zummo could have brought in ringers to win tournaments, but he played the kids on the team and got every last drop of effort out of them. Zummo is all class and good to his word. Just my opinion. I wound up at Legacy in a random way and I'm thankful I did.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do these express parents say When CoachC brings in 8 players from Jersey?

Jersey Express kids?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Love people telling other to stay away while slowly trying to figure a way to get back in. Team down 5+ kids with injuries and other commitments. Could have easily combined Rush kids at any point to fill in the spots and no one would have complained but TZ didn’t want to slight any of his parents.

My son has played for Legacy for the past 6 years. He lost more than he won, but the coaching he had was second to none. At any time, Coach Zummo could have brought in ringers to win tournaments, but he played the kids on the team and got every last drop of effort out of them. Zummo is all class and good to his word. Just my opinion. I wound up at Legacy in a random way and I'm thankful I did.

Only the people on this forum think you need to be on a top 3 team to benefit. If your son is happy and getting better that's what matters.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is WSYL a joke? Oh that right you actually have to be the correct age to play in it, unlike the NLF were every team is a JV team due to all the holdbacks. Come on call a spade a spade. WSYL should be celebrated for pure lacrosse!

Yet, LI teams skirt the rules of the WSYL

Your such a clown. If you want to go by age, Team 91 Shock will take down anyone. Keep coming to tournaments with half the team a full year older.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your such a clown. If you want to go by age, Team 91 Shock will take down anyone. Keep coming to tournaments with half the team a full year older.

I guess all the college coaches are clowns, they are driving the reclassing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is WSYL a joke? Oh that right you actually have to be the correct age to play in it, unlike the NLF were every team is a JV team due to all the holdbacks. Come on call a spade a spade. WSYL should be celebrated for pure lacrosse!

Yet, LI teams skirt the rules of the WSYL

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Why is WSYL a joke? Oh that right you actually have to be the correct age to play in it, unlike the NLF were every team is a JV team due to all the holdbacks. Come on call a spade a spade. WSYL should be celebrated for pure lacrosse!

Yet, LI teams skirt the rules of the WSYL

The age based tournaments are very cool. The lax world has not embraced them (except the WSYL) but they are really great. The size, strength and maturity difference of middle school boys is incredible. The age filter evens the playing field for skilled but less mature players. In a couple of years it evens itself out.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your such a clown. If you want to go by age, Team 91 Shock will take down anyone. Keep coming to tournaments with half the team a full year older.

This is true, and it's also also true that they skirted the rules of the WSYL.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your such a clown. If you want to go by age, Team 91 Shock will take down anyone. Keep coming to tournaments with half the team a full year older.

I guess all the college coaches are clowns, they are driving the reclassing.

No, they are not driving the reclassing. They are driving the "we want 20 year old freshman, and 23 year old seniors". They don't care if the kids play "on age" or "on grade" when they are 14.

The majority of NCAA D1 hockey players are "older". Yet hockey manages to have a youth system based on age. The two things can, and do, coexist. Colin McHoldback can start kindergarten late, and then later repeat 8th grade (so that he is a 16 yo HS freshman and 20 when he graduates). No one cares and no one will stop him. Colin just needs to play with kids his age up and until at least 16 on the travel lacrosse circuit (and for his Town team as well). The owners of clubs and tournaments (often the same people) will see increased participation and increased profits if they moved to age based. It will make for a more consistent and competitive product for the more average player, while they can still offer top notch competition to the superior player.

When a hockey player graduates HS as an 18 yo, and he is viewed as a D1 talent, but not yet ready to step in and play right away (because he is too young and green), the HC tells the kid as much, and the kid either plays junior hockey or attends a PG school until he is ready. If the kid is from a Prep School and has already reclassed, then he will step right in and play, or he will not be offered a D1 spot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What do these express parents say When CoachC brings in 8 players from Jersey?

Jersey Express kids?

What’s the difference. It’s very awkward for the team and parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left at NLF. The true championship.

CoachC brings in 8 kids from Jersey express 2024 to play this weekend and still gets smoked. Must feel great on that sideline to have your kid moved around every weekend

Is this true???

If it is, the Express parents that are normally on the team need to roll out

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 4 teams in the country left at NLF. The true championship.

CoachC brings in 8 kids from Jersey express 2024 to play this weekend and still gets smoked. Must feel great on that sideline to have your kid moved around every weekend

Is this true???

If it is, the Express parents that are normally on the team need to roll out

The problem is parents are afraid to speak up. They are afraid their kids will be punished by the coach if they speak up. My question is, how more are they going to get punished? They are standing on sidelines all tournament. Kids being brought in playing over them. What more can the coach do? It’s terrible. Some of these coaches and directors think they are God.They take 30 kids on the roster, they collect all that money, then periodic fees during the year for some other BS. What service are you providing for those 30 kids? Not 15 kids, 30 kids. Those families going to tournaments, out of state, traffic, hotels, to watch their kid stand there. Do these coaches and directors care if 1/3 of the team is unhappy? These directors should do the right thing and take 20 kids max on a team. Let the club lose out on 10 tuition checks. Let’s see if that happens. 20 is more than enough. Of course directors will say 30 is better. We need to scrimmage each other. We need fresh legs in July. Kids practice harder with more competition. We need a deeper team. Covid could come back this season and we can lose kids to quarantine. All these things are BS. We know why the number is close to 30.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is parents are afraid to speak up. They are afraid their kids will be punished by the coach if they speak up. My question is, how more are they going to get punished? They are standing on sidelines all tournament. Kids being brought in playing over them. What more can the coach do? It’s terrible. Some of these coaches and directors think they are God.They take 30 kids on the roster, they collect all that money, then periodic fees during the year for some other BS. What service are you providing for those 30 kids? Not 15 kids, 30 kids. Those families going to tournaments, out of state, traffic, hotels, to watch their kid stand there. Do these coaches and directors care if 1/3 of the team is unhappy? These directors should do the right thing and take 20 kids max on a team. Let the club lose out on 10 tuition checks. Let’s see if that happens. 20 is more than enough. Of course directors will say 30 is better. We need to scrimmage each other. We need fresh legs in July. Kids practice harder with more competition. We need a deeper team. Covid could come back this season and we can lose kids to quarantine. All these things are BS. We know why the number is close to 30.

What about a parent who opts for their child to play/practice with better kids in the hopes they get to the same level. I will add that it’s HS, if your son is not in a team where he is playing, you might want to reassess. Get on the best team, where your son can contribute the most. And make sure the coaches are 100% committed.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is parents are afraid to speak up. They are afraid their kids will be punished by the coach if they speak up. My question is, how more are they going to get punished? They are standing on sidelines all tournament. Kids being brought in playing over them. What more can the coach do? It’s terrible. Some of these coaches and directors think they are God.They take 30 kids on the roster, they collect all that money, then periodic fees during the year for some other BS. What service are you providing for those 30 kids? Not 15 kids, 30 kids. Those families going to tournaments, out of state, traffic, hotels, to watch their kid stand there. Do these coaches and directors care if 1/3 of the team is unhappy? These directors should do the right thing and take 20 kids max on a team. Let the club lose out on 10 tuition checks. Let’s see if that happens. 20 is more than enough. Of course directors will say 30 is better. We need to scrimmage each other. We need fresh legs in July. Kids practice harder with more competition. We need a deeper team. Covid could come back this season and we can lose kids to quarantine. All these things are BS. We know why the number is close to 30.

The problem is that you are waiting for the club to do what is best for your child. If your child isn't playing, find a club that is a better fit.

Exactly. If it isnt the right fit , move on. 2 guys on my son's team did that already in last 3 weeks. Called "BS" and then Just up and walked..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The problem is parents are afraid to speak up. They are afraid their kids will be punished by the coach if they speak up. My question is, how more are they going to get punished? They are standing on sidelines all tournament. Kids being brought in playing over them. What more can the coach do? It’s terrible. Some of these coaches and directors think they are God.They take 30 kids on the roster, they collect all that money, then periodic fees during the year for some other BS. What service are you providing for those 30 kids? Not 15 kids, 30 kids. Those families going to tournaments, out of state, traffic, hotels, to watch their kid stand there. Do these coaches and directors care if 1/3 of the team is unhappy? These directors should do the right thing and take 20 kids max on a team. Let the club lose out on 10 tuition checks. Let’s see if that happens. 20 is more than enough. Of course directors will say 30 is better. We need to scrimmage each other. We need fresh legs in July. Kids practice harder with more competition. We need a deeper team. Covid could come back this season and we can lose kids to quarantine. All these things are BS. We know why the number is close to 30.

The problem is that you are waiting for the club to do what is best for your child. If your child isn't playing, find a club that is a better fit.

The club will only do what is best for their bottom line. These clubs will continue to flourish until fed up parents say NO. Find a program where your kids will contribute and play. Do you enjoy driving 3 hours each way to spend 2 days on the sidelines rooting for someone else kid?

On LI I know we all pay over $4000 for the privilege of travel lacrosse, take a look below.

The HAWKS will offer two teams at 2025
Costs-

Full Membership
$2,195
This covers:

4 Coaches
Under Armour Game Uniform
Under Armour Hoody and Sweat pants
8 Winter Skill Sessions and Weight Training Sessions
Players will particiapte in Skill Sessions and training session in Janaury and February
6 Tournament Fees: 4 in Summer, 2 Fall tournaments
Fall Practices
Winter Practices
Spring Practices
HoCo Spring League
Summer Practices
All Play Days
Players must provide own travel and lodging

Originally Posted by Anonymous

On LI I know we all pay over $4000 for the privilege of travel lacrosse, take a look below.

The HAWKS will offer two teams at 2025
Costs-

Full Membership
$2,195
This covers:

4 Coaches
Under Armour Game Uniform
Under Armour Hoody and Sweat pants
8 Winter Skill Sessions and Weight Training Sessions
Players will particiapte in Skill Sessions and training session in Janaury and February
6 Tournament Fees: 4 in Summer, 2 Fall tournaments
Fall Practices
Winter Practices
Spring Practices
HoCo Spring League
Summer Practices
All Play Days
Players must provide own travel and lodging

NY State and City tax..

What does Eclipse, Laxachusetts, 2Way, Sweetlax etc charge? We should use this board for real info sharing and be able to compare costs for what you get.

They will charge whatever the clowns ARE WILLING TO PAY. ITS THAT SIMPLE.

At the end of the day, I don’t think people mind paying whatever it is l, if they got value in return. Phenomenal coaching would be on the top of my value list.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What does Eclipse, Laxachusetts, 2Way, Sweetlax etc charge? We should use this board for real info sharing and be able to compare costs for what you get.

The best kids on Sweetlax play for free. A few LI boys have played for them in the past and did not pay, or pay very little. It's how they get top rankings. They recruit the best

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Love people telling other to stay away while slowly trying to figure a way to get back in. Team down 5+ kids with injuries and other commitments. Could have easily combined Rush kids at any point to fill in the spots and no one would have complained but TZ didn’t want to slight any of his parents.

My son has played for Legacy for the past 6 years. He lost more than he won, but the coaching he had was second to none. At any time, Coach Zummo could have brought in ringers to win tournaments, but he played the kids on the team and got every last drop of effort out of them. Zummo is all class and good to his word. Just my opinion. I wound up at Legacy in a random way and I'm thankful I did.

Tommy is a great coach, I only wish he got involved with what was going on with that team earlier.

91 Hornets B team? Thoughts? I know the club world and the A vs B teams in general. I just don't know anything about this team and am trying to get info. I'd appreciate any worthwhile info. Thanks

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets B team? Thoughts? I know the club world and the A vs B teams in general. I just don't know anything about this team and am trying to get info. I'd appreciate any worthwhile info. Thanks

All the big club 2nd teams go by the coaches commitment to the team. S2S, Igloo, Express, 91, Rebels, and Rush. Basically round out this bunch. Best bet speak to people familiar with those teams. Won’t share who I think is the best, just look at the results over the summer and speak to people on the team.

Rebels were balling tonight

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets B team? Thoughts? I know the club world and the A vs B teams in general. I just don't know anything about this team and am trying to get info. I'd appreciate any worthwhile info. Thanks

All the big club 2nd teams go by the coaches commitment to the team. S2S, Igloo, Express, 91, Rebels, and Rush. Basically round out this bunch. Best bet speak to people familiar with those teams. Won’t share who I think is the best, just look at the results over the summer and speak to people on the team.

Rebels Red coaches are amazing, they made some changes and Coach T and the new coach Sean are great!

The 25s? Stop

Does anyone know how the turnouts were at tryouts for Igloo and Regulators? Are those teams really taking Players for their "A" teams or is it just filler for their "B" programs?

Rebs A team 25 doesnt ball. They get balled At least from what I have seen.

Some of the posts are funny. Directors need to promote their product. I get it. Tryouts are coming. It looks great when lots of kids attend. Dancing around factual statements is common.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets B team? Thoughts? I know the club world and the A vs B teams in general. I just don't know anything about this team and am trying to get info. I'd appreciate any worthwhile info. Thanks

All the big club 2nd teams go by the coaches commitment to the team. S2S, Igloo, Express, 91, Rebels, and Rush. Basically round out this bunch. Best bet speak to people familiar with those teams. Won’t share who I think is the best, just look at the results over the summer and speak to people on the team.

91 Hornets B team coach = great guy, excellent coach

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the posts are funny. Directors need to promote their product. I get it. Tryouts are coming. It looks great when lots of kids attend. Dancing around factual statements is common.

I'm more impressed when a club is honest and posts "We only need two more poles and a middie for one age group and a lefty attack for the other."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets B team? Thoughts? I know the club world and the A vs B teams in general. I just don't know anything about this team and am trying to get info. I'd appreciate any worthwhile info. Thanks

All the big club 2nd teams go by the coaches commitment to the team. S2S, Igloo, Express, 91, Rebels, and Rush. Basically round out this bunch. Best bet speak to people familiar with those teams. Won’t share who I think is the best, just look at the results over the summer and speak to people on the team.

91 Hornets B team coach = great guy, excellent coach

All the coaches in this group are solid.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets B team? Thoughts? I know the club world and the A vs B teams in general. I just don't know anything about this team and am trying to get info. I'd appreciate any worthwhile info. Thanks

All the big club 2nd teams go by the coaches commitment to the team. S2S, Igloo, Express, 91, Rebels, and Rush. Basically round out this bunch. Best bet speak to people familiar with those teams. Won’t share who I think is the best, just look at the results over the summer and speak to people on the team.

91 Hornets B team coach = great guy, excellent coach

All the coaches in this group are solid.

Does anyone know anything about the 24 coaches? Are all of their practices at Comsewouge where the tryouts are? I thought they were a Nassau program?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets B team? Thoughts? I know the club world and the A vs B teams in general. I just don't know anything about this team and am trying to get info. I'd appreciate any worthwhile info. Thanks

All the big club 2nd teams go by the coaches commitment to the team. S2S, Igloo, Express, 91, Rebels, and Rush. Basically round out this bunch. Best bet speak to people familiar with those teams. Won’t share who I think is the best, just look at the results over the summer and speak to people on the team.

91 Hornets B team coach = great guy, excellent coach

All the coaches in this group are solid.

Does anyone know anything about the 24 coaches? Are all of their practices at Comsewouge where the tryouts are? I thought they were a Nassau program?

They are okay, but this is HS. You have to start thinking about development, commitment and the club (if your son wants) contacts with schools. A lot of factors to consider. The least of which is convenience of where a team practices in my my opinion.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Love people telling other to stay away while slowly trying to figure a way to get back in. Team down 5+ kids with injuries and other commitments. Could have easily combined Rush kids at any point to fill in the spots and no one would have complained but TZ didn’t want to slight any of his parents.

My son has played for Legacy for the past 6 years. He lost more than he won, but the coaching he had was second to none. At any time, Coach Zummo could have brought in ringers to win tournaments, but he played the kids on the team and got every last drop of effort out of them. Zummo is all class and good to his word. Just my opinion. I wound up at Legacy in a random way and I'm thankful I did.

Tommy is a great coach, I only wish he got involved with what was going on with that team earlier.

He got involved at the right time. A couple of years before the kids entered the most crucial phase, the beginning of the recruitment envelope. Reading posts above about how Express brought in kids from their Jersey outfit to try and win that tournament, that's something TZ would never do. Who cares if you win a tournament if your kid gets pushed aside for a better player from out of state at tournament time? Is that why you practice year round, to get shafted at game time?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets B team? Thoughts? I know the club world and the A vs B teams in general. I just don't know anything about this team and am trying to get info. I'd appreciate any worthwhile info. Thanks

All the big club 2nd teams go by the coaches commitment to the team. S2S, Igloo, Express, 91, Rebels, and Rush. Basically round out this bunch. Best bet speak to people familiar with those teams. Won’t share who I think is the best, just look at the results over the summer and speak to people on the team.

91 Hornets B team coach = great guy, excellent coach

All the coaches in this group are solid.

Does anyone know anything about the 24 coaches? Are all of their practices at Comsewouge where the tryouts are? I thought they were a Nassau program?

They are okay, but this is HS. You have to start thinking about development, commitment and the club (if your son wants) contacts with schools. A lot of factors to consider. The least of which is convenience of where a team practices in my my opinion.

Some of the 24 coaches have a LOT of college connections. You don't need to be at a top X club to get attention. You need to be a good, coachable player.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know how the turnouts were at tryouts for Igloo and Regulators? Are those teams really taking Players for their "A" teams or is it just filler for their "B" programs?

Every program will take a new player if they are better than the one they currently have. There is no loyalty and probably shouldn't be at this age. Although look at the rosters Regulators CSH and Igloo Harborfields/Northport, Legacy Islip, etc. Would you get a fair look as a new outsider? Probably not. It's very tough to break into a new program and crack the carpool clique, parents worse than the kids.

Empire is also a good option if you're out east

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the posts are funny. Directors need to promote their product. I get it. Tryouts are coming. It looks great when lots of kids attend. Dancing around factual statements is common.

I'm more impressed when a club is honest and posts "We only need two more poles and a middie for one age group and a lefty attack for the other."

Good luck waiting for an honest club. They will not give up 50 plus kids all paying $100 to tryout. What really burns me is that the current players have to pay to tryout for their own team. I am the dummy though because I keep writing the check.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the posts are funny. Directors need to promote their product. I get it. Tryouts are coming. It looks great when lots of kids attend. Dancing around factual statements is common.

I'm more impressed when a club is honest and posts "We only need two more poles and a middie for one age group and a lefty attack for the other."

Good luck waiting for an honest club. They will not give up 50 plus kids all paying $100 to tryout. What really burns me is that the current players have to pay to tryout for their own team. I am the dummy though because I keep writing the check.

Same. I was just talking to my husband about this last night. I've been paying thousands for years now. You can't waive the tryout fee for a team my son is going to play for again?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire is also a good option if you're out east

How is the coaching now? We tried out there a few years ago but weren't impressed and watching them at tournaments they didn't seem very well coached. If that's improved that'd be good to know.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire is also a good option if you're out east

How is the coaching now? We tried out there a few years ago but weren't impressed and watching them at tournaments they didn't seem very well coached. If that's improved that'd be good to know.

They and 91 seem to mostly play only the mylaxtourneys events and sorta set up the match ups. You want to play vs teams you haven’t played several times.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Love people telling other to stay away while slowly trying to figure a way to get back in. Team down 5+ kids with injuries and other commitments. Could have easily combined Rush kids at any point to fill in the spots and no one would have complained but TZ didn’t want to slight any of his parents.

My son has played for Legacy for the past 6 years. He lost more than he won, but the coaching he had was second to none. At any time, Coach Zummo could have brought in ringers to win tournaments, but he played the kids on the team and got every last drop of effort out of them. Zummo is all class and good to his word. Just my opinion. I wound up at Legacy in a random way and I'm thankful I did.

Tommy is a great coach, I only wish he got involved with what was going on with that team earlier.

He got involved at the right time. A couple of years before the kids entered the most crucial phase, the beginning of the recruitment envelope. Reading posts above about how Express brought in kids from their Jersey outfit to try and win that tournament, that's something TZ would never do. Who cares if you win a tournament if your kid gets pushed aside for a better player from out of state at tournament time? Is that why you practice year round, to get shafted at game time?

S2S Hawks added kids to their roster all season long. Up until their second to last tournament. Still didn't win anything

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets B team? Thoughts? I know the club world and the A vs B teams in general. I just don't know anything about this team and am trying to get info. I'd appreciate any worthwhile info. Thanks

All the big club 2nd teams go by the coaches commitment to the team. S2S, Igloo, Express, 91, Rebels, and Rush. Basically round out this bunch. Best bet speak to people familiar with those teams. Won’t share who I think is the best, just look at the results over the summer and speak to people on the team.

91 Hornets B team coach = great guy, excellent coach

Would def disagree with that comment

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Empire is also a good option if you're out east

How is the coaching now? We tried out there a few years ago but weren't impressed and watching them at tournaments they didn't seem very well coached. If that's improved that'd be good to know.

There was a coaching change, a high school varsity coach took over.

A varsity coach or college coach should be the club coach. A qualified guy. People are dropping thousands of dollars, they don’t want PAL coaches who coached their sons. We pay about 180 for something like that.

Top 2025 teams are looking for 24 holdbacks at this point. They want to ramp up to see who gets the most college commitments and hopefully force some of their 2025/ to also take the prep route.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 2025 teams are looking for 24 holdbacks at this point. They want to ramp up to see who gets the most college commitments and hopefully force some of their 2025/ to also take the prep route.

Typical LI move

Take the prep rout .... 98% of the people on here can not afford the perp rout and the other factor is that the school may not want you and your kid may not be good enough to play in the New England Prep league. Before
you come on here and assume kids can play in that league do your research those schools lax programs would destroy any public school

Does anyone know anything about the Epic Jokers program?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Does anyone know anything about the Epic Jokers program?

B/C program. For whatever reason their 2025 parents are a particularly "challenging" group. I don't know much about their coaches, but I'd steer clear just because of the parents.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebs A team 25 doesnt ball. They get balled At least from what I have seen.

We are in Nassau county and looking. Does anyone have info on Icon?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Top 2025 teams are looking for 24 holdbacks at this point. They want to ramp up to see who gets the most college commitments and hopefully force some of their 2025/ to also take the prep route.

Fake news. You have no idea what you are talking about. Tryouts are an open competition just like they've always been. We are historically one of the most college committed programs and not one parent or coach has made any reference to holding back. Stop phishing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebs A team 25 doesnt ball. They get balled At least from what I have seen.

We are in Nassau county and looking. Does anyone have info on Icon?

Do you mind me asking where you are looking to move on from? From why I’ve seen with this age group over the last few years as I have a son playing in this age group is that outside of the top tier (A teams for 91, Express, Igloo), you’re left with tons of options all of which have their drawbacks.

One option is a 2nd team with one of the big clubs - every year seems these turn over dramatically. For years, 91 hasn’t been able to sustain a 2nd team. Kids from A get shuttled down to help the team look good. Paying $4k plus for a set of headaches

Another option is the A team for second tier clubs (no disrespect in that statement). Teams like Rebels, Regulators, True Blue, Legacy. All are competitive teams but there have been numerous comments regarding play time or commitment level, etc

Lastly, you can look into the Icon, Hitmen, Recon, Viper type teams. Lower profile clubs. Don’t know a ton about these teams but I would guess they all have good pieces but are thin at depth.

Best advice I can give you, is call each club and ask about roster. How much if it had been together for more than this past season. How much turnover do they expect and in what position groups. Practice/game philosophy, etc.

I guess this is a long winded way of saying every club has its bright spots and warts. Find the one that works best for your son and will allow him to play. Hope that helps you

All these teams are the same. They all have Daddy's kid on the team which is one roster spot that is never rotated.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the posts are funny. Directors need to promote their product. I get it. Tryouts are coming. It looks great when lots of kids attend. Dancing around factual statements is common.

I'm more impressed when a club is honest and posts "We only need two more poles and a middie for one age group and a lefty attack for the other."

Good luck waiting for an honest club. They will not give up 50 plus kids all paying $100 to tryout. What really burns me is that the current players have to pay to tryout for their own team. I am the dummy though because I keep writing the check.

$100 for a tryout? What club is charging this?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these teams are the same. They all have Daddy's kid on the team which is one roster spot that is never rotated.

And that kid NEVER comes off the field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these teams are the same. They all have Daddy's kid on the team which is one roster spot that is never rotated.

And that kid NEVER comes off the field

From what I've seen the dads are harder on their own kids than anyone else's.

And there are better kids on the bench that never see field because of it! Everyone sees it.

Any info on Igloo 2025 B team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the posts are funny. Directors need to promote their product. I get it. Tryouts are coming. It looks great when lots of kids attend. Dancing around factual statements is common.

I'm more impressed when a club is honest and posts "We only need two more poles and a middie for one age group and a lefty attack for the other."

Good luck waiting for an honest club. They will not give up 50 plus kids all paying $100 to tryout. What really burns me is that the current players have to pay to tryout for their own team. I am the dummy though because I keep writing the check.

$100 for a tryout? What club is charging this?

Steep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any info on Igloo 2025 B team?

From a competitive standpoint, I’d put them in the lower level of teams in LI. Will not play against tough opponents, Will never be in the most competitive bracket

Personal opinion and welcome anyone to argue against me.
Why would anyone want to play on a top tier club 2nd team at the rate they charge?

When you pay for club lax, you’re paying for the experience along with tournament fees, uniform, etc. When you compare the 2nd team of a big club to its top team, you don’t get the same level of coaching, you don’t get the same attention from the club, you’re not entered in the premium tournaments, often you practice less often…..why would you pay the same amount as A team players when you get less from the club?

For a B lacrosse player, I’d recommend a club where you’re sons team is their focus, not an afterthought

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any info on Igloo 2025 B team?

From a competitive standpoint, I’d put them in the lower level of teams in LI. Will not play against tough opponents, Will never be in the most competitive bracket

Personal opinion and welcome anyone to argue against me.
Why would anyone want to play on a top tier club 2nd team at the rate they charge?

When you pay for club lax, you’re paying for the experience along with tournament fees, uniform, etc. When you compare the 2nd team of a big club to its top team, you don’t get the same level of coaching, you don’t get the same attention from the club, you’re not entered in the premium tournaments, often you practice less often…..why would you pay the same amount as A team players when you get less from the club?

For a B lacrosse player, I’d recommend a club where you’re sons team is their focus, not an afterthought

So somewhat true. And in my experience big club B teams have all to do with who the coaches are. Because the level of commitment does vary, but by club and coach, not universal. So not disagreeing with you, but saying check it out and ask the questions.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Some of the posts are funny. Directors need to promote their product. I get it. Tryouts are coming. It looks great when lots of kids attend. Dancing around factual statements is common.

I'm more impressed when a club is honest and posts "We only need two more poles and a middie for one age group and a lefty attack for the other."

Good luck waiting for an honest club. They will not give up 50 plus kids all paying $100 to tryout. What really burns me is that the current players have to pay to tryout for their own team. I am the dummy though because I keep writing the check.

$100 for a tryout? What club is charging this?

All of the self proclaimed AA clubs on LI.
To add; 91 is the only club on LI that has won anything this year but then got trounced the following weekend. LI CoachC hasn't won anything meaningful, Igloo hasn't won anything ever. Rebels, Regs and S2S not there yet. Fools will still line up to pay $100 for a tryout and join a roster with 30 players. 15 of those kids will never see the field. Find a good program with a good coach and assistant, manageable roster of no more than 22. Does this exist? Getting harder and harder to find.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these teams are the same. They all have Daddy's kid on the team which is one roster spot that is never rotated.

And that kid NEVER comes off the field

What team are we talking about here?

20 kids is ideal
7 midfield
5 defense
5 attack
2 goalies
1 fogo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

20 kids is ideal
7 midfield
5 defense
5 attack
2 goalies
1 fogo

By summer you will have injuries and conflicts and this is too light.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

20 kids is ideal
7 midfield
5 defense
5 attack
2 goalies
1 fogo

By summer you will have injuries and conflicts and this is too light.

Add two more midfielders and I am with you.

What clubs are you referring to? TiA

Originally Posted by Anonymous

20 kids is ideal
7 midfield
5 defense
5 attack
2 goalies
1 fogo

By summer you will have injuries and conflicts and this is too light.

Clubs will often take 23 plus kids per team but only need 21 at most. Every tuition check over about 18 kids goes straight to the bottom line. I used to be involved with a club lax programs finances and this is a ballpark number but probably pretty close. More kids more profit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

20 kids is ideal
7 midfield
5 defense
5 attack
2 goalies
1 fogo

By summer you will have injuries and conflicts and this is too light.

I don't understand this "conflicts" thing. We create our schedule AROUND tournaments. When you're paying the kind of money you pay, you figure it out.

I think 20 is good. I'd lose one attack and add either another middie or pole.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

20 kids is ideal
7 midfield
5 defense
5 attack
2 goalies
1 fogo

By summer you will have injuries and conflicts and this is too light.

Clubs will often take 23 plus kids per team but only need 21 at most. Every tuition check over about 18 kids goes straight to the bottom line. I used to be involved with a club lax programs finances and this is a ballpark number but probably pretty close. More kids more profit.

23…try 30. They will take every player who is willing to pay.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Any info on Igloo 2025 B team?

From a competitive standpoint, I’d put them in the lower level of teams in LI. Will not play against tough opponents, Will never be in the most competitive bracket

Personal opinion and welcome anyone to argue against me.
Why would anyone want to play on a top tier club 2nd team at the rate they charge?

When you pay for club lax, you’re paying for the experience along with tournament fees, uniform, etc. When you compare the 2nd team of a big club to its top team, you don’t get the same level of coaching, you don’t get the same attention from the club, you’re not entered in the premium tournaments, often you practice less often…..why would you pay the same amount as A team players when you get less from the club?

For a B lacrosse player, I’d recommend a club where you’re sons team is their focus, not an afterthought

What clubs are your referring to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

20 kids is ideal
7 midfield
5 defense
5 attack
2 goalies
1 fogo

By summer you will have injuries and conflicts and this is too light.

Clubs will often take 23 plus kids per team but only need 21 at most. Every tuition check over about 18 kids goes straight to the bottom line. I used to be involved with a club lax programs finances and this is a ballpark number but probably pretty close. More kids more profit.

23…try 30. They will take every player who is willing to pay.

And then when summer tournaments roll around the teams will bring in more players so they end up with 40 kids.

Try to speak to the parents of the kids that have been with the team for more than a year. They will be honest. There is no perfect situation. With B teams, there is always turnover of kids who think they are A players and are every year dissatisfied with something and looking for a golden ticket to an A team.

On B teams a successful team is 20% coaching, 80% commitment and skill of the kids. If the program offers good training, a solid practice schedule and enough tournaments in fall and spring/summer, it is usually a good experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Try to speak to the parents of the kids that have been with the team for more than a year. They will be honest. There is no perfect situation. With B teams, there is always turnover of kids who think they are A players and are every year dissatisfied with something and looking for a golden ticket to an A team.

On B teams a successful team is 20% coaching, 80% commitment and skill of the kids. If the program offers good training, a solid practice schedule and enough tournaments in fall and spring/summer, it is usually a good experience.

I don't understand the need for fall tournaments. My son plays football in the fall. Let the kids have other seasons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Rebs A team 25 doesnt ball. They get balled At least from what I have seen.

We are in Nassau county and looking. Does anyone have info on Icon?

Do you mind me asking where you are looking to move on from? From why I’ve seen with this age group over the last few years as I have a son playing in this age group is that outside of the top tier (A teams for 91, Express, Igloo), you’re left with tons of options all of which have their drawbacks.

One option is a 2nd team with one of the big clubs - every year seems these turn over dramatically. For years, 91 hasn’t been able to sustain a 2nd team. Kids from A get shuttled down to help the team look good. Paying $4k plus for a set of headaches

Another option is the A team for second tier clubs (no disrespect in that statement). Teams like Rebels, Regulators, True Blue, Legacy. All are competitive teams but there have been numerous comments regarding play time or commitment level, etc

Lastly, you can look into the Icon, Hitmen, Recon, Viper type teams. Lower profile clubs. Don’t know a ton about these teams but I would guess they all have good pieces but are thin at depth.

Best advice I can give you, is call each club and ask about roster. How much if it had been together for more than this past season. How much turnover do they expect and in what position groups. Practice/game philosophy, etc.

I guess this is a long winded way of saying every club has its bright spots and warts. Find the one that works best for your son and will allow him to play. Hope that helps you

So I am not sure who you are but the 91 second team has had a stable roster for 3 seasons now and has picked up better kids each year. They are not an A team but are one of the better B teams on the island. There has not been one instance this summer where Shock players were brought in to play on that team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All these teams are the same. They all have Daddy's kid on the team which is one roster spot that is never rotated.

And that kid NEVER comes off the field

Which team are you referring to?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

91 Hornets B team? Thoughts? I know the club world and the A vs B teams in general. I just don't know anything about this team and am trying to get info. I'd appreciate any worthwhile info. Thanks

All the big club 2nd teams go by the coaches commitment to the team. S2S, Igloo, Express, 91, Rebels, and Rush. Basically round out this bunch. Best bet speak to people familiar with those teams. Won’t share who I think is the best, just look at the results over the summer and speak to people on the team.

91 Hornets B team coach = great guy, excellent coach

Would def disagree with that comment

I second that.

Heard Igloo took like 100 kids for their "A" and "B" teams. Are they hurting that bad for $?

That is definitely not true.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Igloo took like 100 kids for their "A" and "B" teams. Are they hurting that bad for $?

FACT. Everybody that showed up was offered a spot. Maybe not 100 but easily over 50. Parents weren't allowed up on field because of parking (probably not real reason). I got the info from my son who was told on 2nd tryout day which group he was. A, B and something in between. Some speech later about potential for movement and more playing time. Was also told a coach would reach out, never happened. Sounded like an effort to keep everyone and not let one dollar slip away. BTW we declined , not sure they knew or cared since nobody followed up. At those prices no thanks.

Waiting for the yearly comments about how many other teams helmets are showing up at their rivals tryouts. "Ton of Team X helmets at Team Ys tryouts today. Great showing. Probably 150, no 600, no 2,000 kids at tryouts today. Lot of top tier talent from other teams. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a big shake up". Blah blah blah

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Igloo took like 100 kids for their "A" and "B" teams. Are they hurting that bad for $?

FACT. Everybody that showed up was offered a spot. Maybe not 100 but easily over 50. Parents weren't allowed up on field because of parking (probably not real reason). I got the info from my son who was told on 2nd tryout day which group he was. A, B and something in between. Some speech later about potential for movement and more playing time. Was also told a coach would reach out, never happened. Sounded like an effort to keep everyone and not let one dollar slip away. BTW we declined , not sure they knew or cared since nobody followed up. At those prices no thanks.

Sounds a lot like LIE

Exactly. Here’s the reality: Everyone knows everyone because all of these kids - particularly the bubble kids - go to every tryout. It is very easy to distinguish an A player from B:

Athleticism, Speed, Size, equal ability with left and right, Quick decision making, Lax IQ and being coachable. If your son doesn’t have all of these, he is not a A player on any team.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Waiting for the yearly comments about how many other teams helmets are showing up at their rivals tryouts. "Ton of Team X helmets at Team Ys tryouts today. Great showing. Probably 150, no 600, no 2,000 kids at tryouts today. Lot of top tier talent from other teams. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a big shake up". Blah blah blah

It's funny because it's true.

I know 3 kids that turned them down.. They wont commit your kid to a team "Congrats you made a team...check plea$e, and we will tell you which one after check clears". And that doesnt include uniforms or winter trading. Scamgloo

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I know 3 kids that turned them down.. They wont commit your kid to a team "Congrats you made a team...check plea$e, and we will tell you which one after check clears". And that doesnt include uniforms or winter trading. Scamgloo

Express-gloo, sure we'll take all of you just pay up. Of course you get playing time with 30 kids on the team. What could go wrong? Just put down your deposit and you're on.

"The Anti-Travel Team" That was the guys slogan for a while...so much for that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Waiting for the yearly comments about how many other teams helmets are showing up at their rivals tryouts. "Ton of Team X helmets at Team Ys tryouts today. Great showing. Probably 150, no 600, no 2,000 kids at tryouts today. Lot of top tier talent from other teams. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a big shake up". Blah blah blah

All B players trying to make a move to an A team. No top LIE or 91 player is going to Rebels or Legarush tryouts. Those are all B teamers.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Waiting for the yearly comments about how many other teams helmets are showing up at their rivals tryouts. "Ton of Team X helmets at Team Ys tryouts today. Great showing. Probably 150, no 600, no 2,000 kids at tryouts today. Lot of top tier talent from other teams. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a big shake up". Blah blah blah

All B players trying to make a move to an A team. No top LIE or 91 player is going to Rebels or Legarush tryouts. Those are all B teamers.

It’s correct. However, you can get the big athletic kids that don’t have the stick skills as AA players that can develop. And it will happen for some.

Wrong on Rebels, plenty of top kids from all organizations are trying to come over. What and see

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong on Rebels, plenty of top kids from all organizations are trying to come over. What and see

I want what you are smokin!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong on Rebels, plenty of top kids from all organizations are trying to come over. What and see

I want what you are smokin!

Definitely has to be on the gummies. No kid who actually plays on Express or 91 is going to the Rebels. Bottom of the roster, maybe. Mostly because they are not likely to play in the same events anymore. That way the parents avoid the walk of shame when they go to the sidelines to watch.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong on Rebels, plenty of top kids from all organizations are trying to come over. What and see

I want what you are smokin!

Definitely has to be on the gummies. No kid who actually plays on Express or 91 is going to the Rebels. Bottom of the roster, maybe. Mostly because they are not likely to play in the same events anymore. That way the parents avoid the walk of shame when they go to the sidelines to watch.

“Walk of Shame” !? Dude! Get a life! Taking “the game” a bit too seriously

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wrong on Rebels, plenty of top kids from all organizations are trying to come over. What and see

I want what you are smokin!

Definitely has to be on the gummies. No kid who actually plays on Express or 91 is going to the Rebels. Bottom of the roster, maybe. Mostly because they are not likely to play in the same events anymore. That way the parents avoid the walk of shame when they go to the sidelines to watch.

Get the hint, your kids is not playing because your kid is not what the coach is looking for, just go somewhere else, make yourself and everyone else happy.

Legarush? What is that? Lol!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legarush? What is that? Lol!!

The top team will most certainly be very good. The teams below them will be a tough sell, but the right club counts now. Choosing a club is critical. I would consider looking at these top events HS teams are in now and see who attends. Those I think are the clubs you might want to consider. For example, Crabfest, NLI, NLF, etc.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legarush? What is that? Lol!!

The top team will most certainly be very good. The teams below them will be a tough sell, but the right club counts now. Choosing a club is critical. I would consider looking at these top events HS teams are in now and see who attends. Those I think are the clubs you might want to consider. For example, Crabfest, NLI, NLF, etc.

Don't see how. Legacy was terrible this year and Rush didn't win anything either. So the better players (who were probably getting the most time anyway), are going to be very good this year. They weren't last year. Why and how
will they be better now?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Legarush? What is that? Lol!!

The top team will most certainly be very good. The teams below them will be a tough sell, but the right club counts now. Choosing a club is critical. I would consider looking at these top events HS teams are in now and see who attends. Those I think are the clubs you might want to consider. For example, Crabfest, NLI, NLF, etc.

Don't see how. Legacy was terrible this year and Rush didn't win anything either. So the better players (who were probably getting the most time anyway), are going to be very good this year. They weren't last year. Why and how
will they be better now?

Terrible is a bit harsh. But I think they will put together a better team. I do think the 2nd teams will be a risk. The Titans and Rush A kids that don’t make it won’t automatically go to the B team, not the way LI lax parents are wired, they should, but that doesn’t happen. They will try the AA and A line, but doesn’t really work as often as it should, LI too saturated with clubs.

Team is already set, there is no if they don’t make it. They already made it. Don’t you know this by now? Teams are all set. Maybe 1 or 2 surprise kids at tryouts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Team is already set, there is no if they don’t make it. They already made it. Don’t you know this by now? Teams are all set. Maybe 1 or 2 surprise kids at tryouts.

Maybe so. There might be some defectors from Legrush and other clubs.

I forgot Legacy does not have any legit players , only 91 AND express have all the players thta are going to DUKE , UNC , UVA ... give me a break let me know how it works out when 91 / Express cashes you check and then they load the team up with players ... Not about winning TEE shirts it it about your son getting better and his coach putting him in the right spot

Rebels had kids from R U S H play on their team this weekend at some tourney. And still lost. Parents must have loved that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Igloo took like 100 kids for their "A" and "B" teams. Are they hurting that bad for $?

FACT. Everybody that showed up was offered a spot. Maybe not 100 but easily over 50. Parents weren't allowed up on field because of parking (probably not real reason). I got the info from my son who was told on 2nd tryout day which group he was. A, B and something in between. Some speech later about potential for movement and more playing time. Was also told a coach would reach out, never happened. Sounded like an effort to keep everyone and not let one dollar slip away. BTW we declined , not sure they knew or cared since nobody followed up. At those prices no thanks.

Sounds a lot like LIE

It is a shame that almost all of these clubs have expanded their rosters to 30 players. There is no way to get enough playing time to make everyone better. I can hear the owners now, "but practices are so intense everyone is getting better". If you believe that I'll take your $4500. Reasonable rosters have 22 kids, overloaded at middie for summer tournaments. Everything over that just feeds the bottom line. If you don't see the field you're a practice player and should be given a substantial discount. My kids was on the bubble, we got tired of travelling and watching the newcomers each week so had a candid conversation with the coach. Although we had been there for years we left for a smaller club, kid plays a ton, coaching is no better no worse and we saved over $1200. Don't allow these clubs to ruin your kids confidence so they can sell their brand. If the kid is good they'll get better with a little help from a decent coach. 7th and 8th grade studs doesn't mean a thing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Igloo took like 100 kids for their "A" and "B" teams. Are they hurting that bad for $?

FACT. Everybody that showed up was offered a spot. Maybe not 100 but easily over 50. Parents weren't allowed up on field because of parking (probably not real reason). I got the info from my son who was told on 2nd tryout day which group he was. A, B and something in between. Some speech later about potential for movement and more playing time. Was also told a coach would reach out, never happened. Sounded like an effort to keep everyone and not let one dollar slip away. BTW we declined , not sure they knew or cared since nobody followed up. At those prices no thanks.

Sounds a lot like LIE

It is a shame that almost all of these clubs have expanded their rosters to 30 players. There is no way to get enough playing time to make everyone better. I can hear the owners now, "but practices are so intense everyone is getting better". If you believe that I'll take your $4500. Reasonable rosters have 22 kids, overloaded at middie for summer tournaments. Everything over that just feeds the bottom line. If you don't see the field you're a practice player and should be given a substantial discount. My kids was on the bubble, we got tired of travelling and watching the newcomers each week so had a candid conversation with the coach. Although we had been there for years we left for a smaller club, kid plays a ton, coaching is no better no worse and we saved over $1200. Don't allow these clubs to ruin your kids confidence so they can sell their brand. If the kid is good they'll get better with a little help from a decent coach. 7th and 8th grade studs doesn't mean a thing.

You don't know by now that this board isn't the place for this sort of rational, kids-first thought and decision making?

If it ain't a "top 3 team" none of the no-self-awareness crazies here care. THEIR kids are going to Maryland/Hopkins/Syracuse/UNC/VA!!!!!! THEY know what they are talking about. Not the rest of us.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Heard Igloo took like 100 kids for their "A" and "B" teams. Are they hurting that bad for $?

FACT. Everybody that showed up was offered a spot. Maybe not 100 but easily over 50. Parents weren't allowed up on field because of parking (probably not real reason). I got the info from my son who was told on 2nd tryout day which group he was. A, B and something in between. Some speech later about potential for movement and more playing time. Was also told a coach would reach out, never happened. Sounded like an effort to keep everyone and not let one dollar slip away. BTW we declined , not sure they knew or cared since nobody followed up. At those prices no thanks.

Sounds a lot like LIE

It is a shame that almost all of these clubs have expanded their rosters to 30 players. There is no way to get enough playing time to make everyone better. I can hear the owners now, "but practices are so intense everyone is getting better". If you believe that I'll take your $4500. Reasonable rosters have 22 kids, overloaded at middie for summer tournaments. Everything over that just feeds the bottom line. If you don't see the field you're a practice player and should be given a substantial discount. My kids was on the bubble, we got tired of travelling and watching the newcomers each week so had a candid conversation with the coach. Although we had been there for years we left for a smaller club, kid plays a ton, coaching is no better no worse and we saved over $1200. Don't allow these clubs to ruin your kids confidence so they can sell their brand. If the kid is good they'll get better with a little help from a decent coach. 7th and 8th grade studs doesn't mean a thing.

You don't know by now that this board isn't the place for this sort of rational, kids-first thought and decision making?

If it ain't a "top 3 team" none of the no-self-awareness crazies here care. THEIR kids are going to Maryland/Hopkins/Syracuse/UNC/VA!!!!!! THEY know what they are talking about. Not the rest of us.

Top 3 team? There are only 2 teams to be talking about.

Wait? You mean 14 yr old lacrosse wont define my life or my son's life? WTH? I thought being on an Instagram post was the mecca of kiddie lacrosse.... I better put a stop-payment on that $4500 check ....

How are all the "Tryouts" going? My sons team is having tryouts this week and all the kids that are already on the team are returning...So what is the club trying out? People's wallets? My concern is a roster of 28-30 kids. There will be no playing time. Do your homework!

Can somebody please answer the question of why you pay to have your son not play? If practices are so intense take those skills elsewhere and be the guy. You will be so much happier and so will son.

Rebels had a Really tough weekend went 2-2. Only had 16 kids due to injuries, so some rush kids came up to play with them
They lost to Sweetlax by 1 and 10-4 to True national where every single kid is 1-2 years older. Your Right we spent 4 days of some vacation and lacrosse. It was really horrible.
By the way all the parents had a blast

30 kids. Common man. How is that possible? 25 is too much.

Most of these clubs are the same. Our owner had the audacity to say, "people are knocking down the door to get a spot and if people weren't happy they should leave". Thankfully took my two kids somewhere else. Value the players and parents that pay your bills or one day you might just regret being such an egomaniac. They trash CoachC and Express but all now mimic his business model, 30 kids, multiple teams, $5000 tuition. For freshman lacrosse, I think we'll stick to our HS and town program. Good luck at your $100 tryouts.

Why all this talk about needing more middies? All you really need is 6-8. What do the 12 do in fall and spring when it’s not 100 degrees and nobody is completely gassed? Kids want to be on the field!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can somebody please answer the question of why you pay to have your son not play? If practices are so intense take those skills elsewhere and be the guy. You will be so much happier and so will son.

Take your son somewhere he will play! Actual gameplay is what will make him better. Take the $ you may be saving by “not playing” on that “top” team and get some extra training. It will show when he gets to HS! Get him away from the cut throat parents, kids, and coach’s . HS playing will help him with college/recruiting stuff as well. Not worth being on “those” teams, if it’s at the expense of your kid being miserable and feeling “less than”?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can somebody please answer the question of why you pay to have your son not play? If practices are so intense take those skills elsewhere and be the guy. You will be so much happier and so will son.

Take your son somewhere he will play! Actual gameplay is what will make him better. Take the $ you may be saving by “not playing” on that “top” team and get some extra training. It will show when he gets to HS! Get him away from the cut throat parents, kids, and coach’s . HS playing will help him with college/recruiting stuff as well. Not worth being on “those” teams, if it’s at the expense of your kid being miserable and feeling “less than”?

Best advice seen here in a while. Stop paying for the name and do what's best for your individual. Not playing=not progressing=miserable experience.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Can somebody please answer the question of why you pay to have your son not play? If practices are so intense take those skills elsewhere and be the guy. You will be so much happier and so will son.

Take your son somewhere he will play! Actual gameplay is what will make him better. Take the $ you may be saving by “not playing” on that “top” team and get some extra training. It will show when he gets to HS! Get him away from the cut throat parents, kids, and coach’s . HS playing will help him with college/recruiting stuff as well. Not worth being on “those” teams, if it’s at the expense of your kid being miserable and feeling “less than”?

Best advice seen here in a while. Stop paying for the name and do what's best for your individual. Not playing=not progressing=miserable experience.

Simply said. All teams get seen by coaches. However, only kids playing get the looks.

Playing time and training, leading to the connections that the programs gap have with coaches and equally important, the guys who run the showcases. It is critical important to get invites to the top showcases. College coaches do not have the time to run from tournament to tournament. They see 1,000s of useless highlight films of superstars playing against mediocre competition. In the end, they use the showcases to see the best of the best competing against each other.

Spot arguing about who is the best team. Find the right program who can get your kid seen at the right time, in the right spot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are all the "Tryouts" going? My sons team is having tryouts this week and all the kids that are already on the team are returning...So what is the club trying out? People's wallets? My concern is a roster of 28-30 kids. There will be no playing time. Do your homework!

Just because they are returning, doesn't mean they will beat out who shows. No? Isn't that how tryouts work?

All but 2 kids are returning and everyone has already paid their initial deposit to "Lock in" our kids spots.... so we have 24 kids and are "adding a few more" ... The program is being really quiet.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How are all the "Tryouts" going? My sons team is having tryouts this week and all the kids that are already on the team are returning...So what is the club trying out? People's wallets? My concern is a roster of 28-30 kids. There will be no playing time. Do your homework!

what team?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait? You mean 14 yr old lacrosse wont define my life or my son's life? WTH? I thought being on an Instagram post was the mecca of kiddie lacrosse.... I better put a stop-payment on that $4500 check ....

My kid is 15

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All but 2 kids are returning and everyone has already paid their initial deposit to "Lock in" our kids spots.... so we have 24 kids and are "adding a few more" ... The program is being really quiet.

What team is this? Guts enough to post this but not name the team? Fishing?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait? You mean 14 yr old lacrosse wont define my life or my son's life? WTH? I thought being on an Instagram post was the mecca of kiddie lacrosse.... I better put a stop-payment on that $4500 check ....

My kid is 15

And entering 9th grade? My son is 13 and starting HS this fall

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait? You mean 14 yr old lacrosse wont define my life or my son's life? WTH? I thought being on an Instagram post was the mecca of kiddie lacrosse.... I better put a stop-payment on that $4500 check ....

My kid is 15

And entering 9th grade? My son is 13 and starting HS this fall

Yikes. You might want to rethink that. Just tell CoachC you’re going to PG him and move him to 2026.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing time and training, leading to the connections that the programs gap have with coaches and equally important, the guys who run the showcases. It is critical important to get invites to the top showcases. College coaches do not have the time to run from tournament to tournament. They see 1,000s of useless highlight films of superstars playing against mediocre competition. In the end, they use the showcases to see the best of the best competing against each other.

Spot arguing about who is the best team. Find the right program who can get your kid seen at the right time, in the right spot.

100% correct. You need a Coach who has the connections to secure invitations.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Playing time and training, leading to the connections that the programs gap have with coaches and equally important, the guys who run the showcases. It is critical important to get invites to the top showcases. College coaches do not have the time to run from tournament to tournament. They see 1,000s of useless highlight films of superstars playing against mediocre competition. In the end, they use the showcases to see the best of the best competing against each other.

Spot arguing about who is the best team. Find the right program who can get your kid seen at the right time, in the right spot.

100% correct. You need a Coach who has the connections to secure invitations.

Yes but those invitations only go to a select few, you know the ones that play. Again, it’s tryout season and you have a HS student that is on a team and he doesn’t play, you will look back 3 years from now and regret that you enabled that.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wait? You mean 14 yr old lacrosse wont define my life or my son's life? WTH? I thought being on an Instagram post was the mecca of kiddie lacrosse.... I better put a stop-payment on that $4500 check ....

My kid is 15

And entering 9th grade? My son is 13 and starting HS this fall

All depends on where you live. NY state doesn't even have uniform school cut-off dates (NYC kids go much later making them older). NY, NJ, CT, MD all different. US lacrosse wants to be the governing body but refuses to address the age group discussions.

The 91B team coach is not a good guy or coach

Then find another team. You will find that most of these guys arent the salt of the earth.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The 91B team coach is not a good guy or coach

Why would you say that?