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Word around the street that 91 has 2 kids committed but waiting to announce.

Wow. I'm sure all of us will be holding our breath waiting for the next 9th graders ready to "announce". Have you notified ESPN? Will there be a special TV news conference which interupts regular programming? LOL!

There are only a handful of people on planet Earth who care:
1. the kid
2. the nutty parents (not all) who live through their kids
3. the club director who wants all the credit for making this happen to use as a selling tool to gather more paying parents.
4. the group of jealous and whining parents who will criticize everything about early recruiting only because their kid wasn't recruited.

That, my friends, sums up who really cares about this process of which you can find thousands of pages of banter on the internet. Now go back to typing away!

Word around the street that 91 has 2 kids committed but waiting to announce.

lets agree to disagree, I am a parent of a player that has played with and against all of these boys and am interested where they have chosen to commit and am happy for all of them, you on the other hand are a tool.

Calling people names while on an anonymous message board shows what you are. You are probably in group 1 or 2.

Ty Xanders is a complete loser. The 2018 kids listed are nice and all, but biased maybe? The guy has a boy crush on LIX, Team 91, Dukes, Sweetlax and WCS which are not by coincidence his shugga daddies paying him to cover their events. This loser doesn't even bother to canvas a wide swath of tournaments that don't fall under the umbrella of his backers, so of course he's never seen and likely won't see a lot of great players. I don't have a 2018, but got a nice Holiday howl out of what this clown wrote up.

Give the guy some credit for being a good little lap dog, he left off his list kids from a certain club in Baltimore. If this recruiting rundown thing does not work out he'll never work in Baltimore again.

Ty Xanders is a complete loser. The 2018 kids listed are nice and all, but biased maybe? The guy has a boy crush on LIX, Team 91, Dukes, Sweetlax and WCS which are not by coincidence his shugga daddies paying him to cover their events. This loser doesn't even bother to canvas a wide swath of tournaments that don't fall under the umbrella of his backers, so of course he's never seen and likely won't see a lot of great players. I don't have a 2018, but got a nice Holiday howl out of what this clown wrote up.

Give the guy some credit for being a good little lap dog, he left off his list kids from a certain club in Baltimore. If this recruiting rundown thing does not work out he'll never work in Baltimore again.

List is meaningless he may see a kid do well one game then bomb the next. Let's wait till HS varsity to make this list. That's where it actually counts!

Ladies and gentlemen for anyone who has played at the D1 level in college you go from being the big boy on campus to just another player as a freshmen. Competing against players for your position who could be as much as 4 to 5 years older than you. Do you have the work ethic, the mental toughness to last and make it? The luck to be injury free. I have known many players who were projected to be college studs and they have come no where close to meeting those projections. Then comes along a player that no one gave a second look at and they turn out to be an amazing college player. So if parents want to believe all the BS that Ty Xanders posts go right ahead. Most of his selections are good because these are the most heralded players in youth lacrosse. A lot changes from 9th grade to freshman year in college. Look at Rob Pannel, Smithtown to a PG year at Deerfield to Cornell. Only played varsity 3 years. Really peaked senior year and the PG at Deerfield. Would anyone consider Quinnipiac a major team? Nope. That's where he was headed after Smithtown. Please read and take these rankings for what they are, ways for Ty to get more hits to his website and make more money. Don't you think some of these elite programs have influence on who make the rankings. There a plenty of players who he has not seen and has no idea about. There are also those who don't play for teams like 91, Express, Dukes, and a few other Elite programs that are great players who will never get the recognition they deserve. Keep your kid grounded. School first and play lacrosse for the love of the game.

There is no doubt that what you say is 100% true, however, the ranking of HS players is no doubt a very interesting topic in the world of all sports, not just lacrosse. This is evidenced by the fact that everyone reads these lists and the thousands of opinions that are generated. Also, most of the people critical of these lists are the first ones to run to the websites to read them. LOL! Some of these kids that will be ranked will succeed and some won't. No revelation there. It's all entertainment folks! Not nearly as big of a world issue as some want to make it.

Exactly, and if those kids don't have the grades or scores when it is time to actually become admitted to college, they will be out of luck.

The lists are typically the most hyped players in the east, ignoring the kids who are breaking out in places like Colorado and California. I have a 2017 and have seen many a top 20 kid get beaten or scored on repeatedly by an unranked "nobody".

If your kid isn't ranked, all the better, why peak at freshman year?

Agree with most of what you say, however, just because kids are very good and ranked in freshman year doesn't mean they WON'T be very good when they are Srs. in HS or playing Div 1 lacrosse. There are many examples of kids who are great throughout their whole career as well as many who peaked early or who did not end up AA's. That is what makes it an interesting discussion for those who take all this too seriously. As with every class, we will all know in a few years.

Look at Hopkins with all those really early commits all these years. Lol haven't won anything. Yeah really good team but have trouble with some lower level division 1 teams. They get all these studs from 9th grade who are physically maturer then the other boys. I find this early recruiting laughable. These guys should wait after their sophmore year. Then they will see who is who.

They really should look at football. They wait until Sr. year! They make sure!

The one thing not stated in that article--$. Most of the D-1 schools are not fully funded and even those that are only are allowed 12.5 scholarships per year. So, while I agree early verbal commits aren't the best thing for the entire population, for those that get good offers, it is better to get the potential money than wait around and hope you get noticed again...

For the kids it can be great! God Bless them! Take the money and run! Just be mind full that a lot can change in 4 years! Make sure you pick a school that you want to be at even if you never get in the starting line up. The other problem is that scholarships are year to year and while most schools now honor those throughout the 4 years, the frequency of them adjusting them down will become more prevalent the earlier the commits get. With only 12.5 scholarships you had better guess right and the younger the player is that is recruited the more chance there will be that they are wrong!

Look at Hopkins with all those really early commits all these years. Lol haven't won anything. Yeah really good team but have trouble with some lower level division 1 teams. They get all these studs from 9th grade who are physically maturer then the other boys. I find this early recruiting laughable. These guys should wait after their sophmore year. Then they will see who is who.

Yes,my kid is a sophmore,pretty good litte player, hasn't hit puberty yet.You just have to try to keep his confidence up.Promblem is I have not seen have you hit puberty question on any of the applications yet. Lol

Just returned from UNC Freshmen Sophmore Select camp. Two observations.

Reclassified Players: Last year we saw the distinct disadvantage of not reclassifying as the reclasses were generally bigger and faster than their age appropriate classmates. What a difference a year makes!!! Nice to see how the 2000 birth year players have caught up to their 1999 born competition. Many of the reclasses looked past their prime. One semester of HS is a great age equalizer.

Comitted Players: The committed players were generally outplayed by their uncommitted peers. I guess when you are 14/15 and already know where you are going to attend college you are no longer hungry.