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No it isn't. It's just a coach whose kid plays on the team. Don't be so sensitive, no one impugned any of their coaching abilities. Just stating the facts. [/quote]

Coaching HS ball by no means qualifies anyone for anything - most were in the right place at the right time and could have just as easily got the drivers ed gig instead, it's all about timing and who you know that determines most HS coaches

Wow, lots of time to spare... Instead of battling it out here, do something constructive like rake my leaves... ;-)

Obviously these girls are ALL talented, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about them here. If anyone is to blame for the style of play, go after the coach, not the girls. It's HIS/HER job to make sure everyone's playing as a team and COACH the "all about me" players.

If there's a question about teamwork / greed, I always thought it was the coaches responsibility to keep that mentality and style of play in check.

Didn't the 2017 Smithtown East girl commit to Florida right after the summer?

You know what's easy making you look like an idiot . As you have obviously found out you are wrong again. By the way your dominant ESM player ( who is very good ) was on JV most of the season and moved up when enough kids got hurt , no offense to her but had little to do with their success or county final failure . The fact that you are so clueless about everything you talk about makes your comments laughable .

Looking forward to finally some play !!

Any truth to the rumor that a whole 2020 town (8-10) walked away from yj because the dad on blue? What town if true please? That cost CR tens of thousands of dollars if true. Will it happen again with the 19s? Remains to be seen maybe.

A lot of kids from BBP walked away, but I don't think it was because of him. It was mostly because of how F&F shape the teams. CR couldn't care less. It will be rampant in this age group from blue on down again this year. Starting with mommy and daddy coaches.

Girls make all these teams, I could coache them and still be successful. These girls are born with it. Most of the young ladies coaching are puppets for the parents anyway. Put the bee on your chest, get on to the blue squad and you will be fine regardless of who is subbing.

The 2017 ESM kid committed in December of fresHman year. SE girl committed first from that team to Florida. 2017 middle country kid committed to UNC in jan or feb of fresh year. Her sister is going to ND

You tell us if there is any truth to the rumor. I doubt it as you just started the rumor on here. And if there is 8-10 kids from one town on a top blue team it would be a good thing for the team to send them packing.

thats were you are a yellow jackass.....kids can not reach their full potential if they are just being subbed in...no coaching....why play?

Did the 2018 blue team get crushed by Heros today at Primetime?

Not sure but there were not a lot of strong teams in that 2018 age group. I didnt recognize a lot of the teams that were in that age group otside of YJ, MD, TLC, Cardinals, Elevate and a few others.

You obviously know so tell us all how bad it was

All the girls that left were from the 2nd and 3rd teams. Had nothing to do with the blue coach.

Where did they go?

Been three weeks. Where are the rosters

Hey rookie, write the check, get your window sticker on the car, sign up for the fall and winter clinic and league and be quiet. You have no say and can't ask questions. The yellow jackets are a $5,000 a year privilage!

If you're still talking about 2017 the rosters aren't set yet

They went for quality coaching and no drama

Indirectly, he played a part. Once the deal was made that some of the girls were going to blue, the girls on the Jones team realized that they had no chance to move up, so they moved on.

Elevate's top 2018 team, Blue Team I think, did not play any of the top teams at the tournament. They played the lower tier teams. Not sure why their top 2018 team doesnt try and compete with the better clubs.

Because they can't?

no, YJ 2018 blue won against hero's and M&D black as well.

YJ 2018 blue beat Heros 10-5 beat MandD and TLC

If this is true, can it change if they do well at the last 2 fall tournaments in Jersey? Who’s coaching those tournaments?

Nope, rosters were set before tryouts

Can't wait to see rosters and watch all the drama unfold!

What kind of jerk likes to see drama among girls sports enough to say you can't wait ???... get a life

So true! Once out of elementary school, try-outs are for collecting fees, not for evaluating talent and picking teams.

Waiting like this is a terrible thing to do to these young girls and their parents. I know it may sound stupid, but my daughter is worried sick that she will not be on the team she has played for and it’s beginning to depress her. She’s a good enough player to stay where she is, but with politics and all, you don’t know what will happen. I’m beginning to wonder if we’re doing the right thing having her play travel. Is it really worth the stress and aggravation?

Try outs are coming up for 2022, 2023 age groups. Make sure your lacrosse ball that your donating doesn't have your name on it.

The simple answer is rosters will come out like usual after the fall tournaments are done. I don't disagree with that as those tournament rosters are made up prior to tryouts so would not be fair to the girls who possibly get moved off a team. Not sure why the ball thing to tryouts bothers so many, it really is no big deal.

I guess the lacrosse ball issue is based on principle not the value of the ball itself. There were people that posted on this board that their daughters actually went up to the coaches after the try out to ask for their ball back and were told no you can get it back at the first practice if you make the team and this is accepted. If you were on a play ground with your daughter and somebody picked up your daughters lacrosse and refused to give it back. Would you accept it and say its no big deal? I know I wouldn't

And you know that how?

And how do you know?

Absolutely rosters are penciled in prior to tryouts. Top team talent doesn't just appear blindly at try outs. The coaches know the players they are looking to keep from the previous year and know the players they are looking to replace from the previous year. The coaches know of players on the teams below and who will be considered to be brought up, and know of, or are aware of the top kids trying out from other clubs. This is due diligence and and every good coach will have a plan worked out prior to tryouts. This holds true at least on blue because these players do not appear out of thin air.

For showcase events, M&D plays all the girls relatively equally. This Primetime was a showcase. For championship events M&D wants to compete for the final win and plays the best players. I like this approach, balance between commitment to travel team and recruiting as well as the competitive spirit be the best you can be. So don't make too much of a "win" in a showcase. If YJ beats M&D in a championship style tournament then that is something to brag about!!!!

This is an interesting, enlightening and at times depressing forum....nothing like this exists in Maryland. I think it is the anonymous nature that for the most part makes the worst in folks come out. Talk about airing dirty laundry....

Susan just thank god you play lax in MD. On LI we pay a fortune to lots of clubs just in it for the money and then because I want my daughter to play we share sidelines with some of the most arrogant backstabbing people that encourage their kids to play selfishly because its all about them. The clubs should start offering shrink services along with recruiting help. I know lots of parents that should be in therapy that subject themselves and their kids to this drama, but we all keep playing because my kid is going to get that $7,500 offer and of course we love it. If you play the "G" team from the yJ this summer look for us.