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Some simple math;

The athletic $ pie is only so big, VERY FEW kids are getting FULL ATHLETIC scholarships.....many kids get a piece of the pie. There are only so many pieces of that pie that most often gets divided many many times. Kids are getting at best 20 to 30% of the cost of college from athletic $.

Academic $ is a totally different and more lucrative place. Keep up the academics.

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There are no full ride athletic scholarships...don't believe it!
There is good $ out there..50/60 % is great number for blue chip kids

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There are no full ride athletic scholarships...don't believe it!
There is good $ out there..50/60 % is great number for blue chip kids


how many Blue Chip kids are there?

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There are no full ride athletic scholarships...don't believe it!
There is good $ out there..50/60 % is great number for blue chip kids

50/60 % is good money, but Just because your daughter didn't get a full ride, it doesn't mean they don't exist!! They are rare but they do exist! The coach will let you know where u stand if you give them a little push back on their offer.

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There are no full ride athletic scholarships...don't believe it!
There is good $ out there..50/60 % is great number for blue chip kids

50/60 % is good money, but Just because your daughter didn't get a full ride, it doesn't mean they don't exist!! They are rare but they do exist! The coach will let you know where u stand if you give them a little push back on their offer.


But too many still pick a school based on getting an offer, ANY OFFER! Don't settle just to say your kid committed

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There are no full ride athletic scholarships...don't believe it!
There is good $ out there..50/60 % is great number for blue chip kids

50/60 % is good money, but Just because your daughter didn't get a full ride, it doesn't mean they don't exist!! They are rare but they do exist! The coach will let you know where u stand if you give them a little push back on their offer.


12 scholarship spots, roster of 30, equally split that's .40 award. Very tough to pin 100% to a 9th or 10th grade commit with so many variables ahead of them. We have seen some big swings from Freshman to Sophmore year as coaches award more cash to stellar freshman who were on the low end of scholarship on the way in. The big programs have nothing but studs so everyone has to get something. Probably a better chance of getting the full ride to a weaker team that will have to overpay a top player to get the commit. Think NY Mets!

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There are no full ride athletic scholarships...don't believe it!
There is good $ out there..50/60 % is great number for blue chip kids


how many Blue Chip kids are there?



Top 2-3 kids from a top program. Lesser programs 0.

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There are no full ride athletic scholarships...don't believe it!
There is good $ out there..50/60 % is great number for blue chip kids

50/60 % is good money, but Just because your daughter didn't get a full ride, it doesn't mean they don't exist!! They are rare but they do exist! The coach will let you know where u stand if you give them a little push back on their offer.


12 scholarship spots, roster of 30, equally split that's .40 award. Very tough to pin 100% to a 9th or 10th grade commit with so many variables ahead of them. We have seen some big swings from Freshman to Sophmore year as coaches award more cash to stellar freshman who were on the low end of scholarship on the way in. The big programs have nothing but studs so everyone has to get something. Probably a better chance of getting the full ride to a weaker team that will have to overpay a top player to get the commit. Think NY Mets!


It is, but it does happen even in the top programs!

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There are no full ride athletic scholarships...don't believe it!
There is good $ out there..50/60 % is great number for blue chip kids

50/60 % is good money, but Just because your daughter didn't get a full ride, it doesn't mean they don't exist!! They are rare but they do exist! The coach will let you know where u stand if you give them a little push back on their offer.


Some do get full rides but for most that are going around saying "My kid got a full ride" are not getting 100%. they may get tuition paid through academic $ but they will still be on the hook for room and board and that can be a 10-15 K hit. It is all good I am glad the girls are getting the opportunity to play in college. My kid got 25% for athletics and 50% for academics . The one thing we all have to worry about is the academic $ sometimes comes with a GPA of a 3 or 3.2 average that must be accomplished or it goes away.

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50/60% IS WHAT THE CREAM OF THE CROP GET

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Hilarious that some TG losers are in here bashing CR on the college placements of her players when just about everyone of them are going to a school better than Hofstra . Please tell me the fantastic career choices your super academic daughters have picked . Also please tell me the schools that these 100 average kids have picked that are beneath them , you can't because CR does not pressure anyone to go to certain schools .She may have a better relationship with some coaches than others .


You don't know cr or anything about her if you don't think that she pressures her blue chip players to go to certain schools


Again just another db parent who has no idea what they are talking about. Name the school she is pressuring kids to go to, or the school that some kid went to that they really did not want to. Have been thru the recruiting process with her , my daughter had many different options and CR personally told me that she stays away from recommending one school over another. All of you who think a kid should base their choice of school strictly on the schools World News ranking are clueless.Your kid should pick the school that fits the best on many different criteria , location, size , academics, cost, social factors and yes lacrosse if they plan on playing.


Apparently your kid was not a blue chip player...

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I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.

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So about 33% more than the average if everyone got .40. Makes sense but for every kid that gets a .60 another kid get .20

There are way more kids getting .10-.60 than those getting .60-100

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Hilarious that some TG losers are in here bashing CR on the college placements of her players when just about everyone of them are going to a school better than Hofstra . Please tell me the fantastic career choices your super academic daughters have picked . Also please tell me the schools that these 100 average kids have picked that are beneath them , you can't because CR does not pressure anyone to go to certain schools .She may have a better relationship with some coaches than others .


You don't know cr or anything about her if you don't think that she pressures her blue chip players to go to certain schools


Again just another db parent who has no idea what they are talking about. Name the school she is pressuring kids to go to, or the school that some kid went to that they really did not want to. Have been thru the recruiting process with her , my daughter had many different options and CR personally told me that she stays away from recommending one school over another. All of you who think a kid should base their choice of school strictly on the schools World News ranking are clueless.Your kid should pick the school that fits the best on many different criteria , location, size , academics, cost, social factors and yes lacrosse if they plan on playing.


Apparently your kid was not a blue chip player...


Apparently you are a DB clueless TG parent.

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All you top gun players are pressured to go to Hofstra because of the conflict of interest with the Smiths!

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[quote=Anonymous]All you top gun players are pressured to go to Hofstra because of the conflict of interest with the Smiths! [/quote


That's the dumbest thing I've read on this thread!

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50/60% IS WHAT THE CREAM OF THE CROP GET

I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.

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I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.


75% all athletic?

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[quote=Anonymous]50/60% IS WHAT THE CREAM OF THE CROP GET

I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.


75% all athletic? [/quote

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I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.


But then someone is getting .05 to balance it out. How many girls on Northwestern you think are there with just .05? hmmm

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So many delusional parents out there. Let your daughter play the game, but most importantly, let them get an education that will position themselves for a solid career.

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I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.


But then someone is getting .05 to balance it out. How many girls on Northwestern you think are there with just .05? hmmm


Northwestern carries closer to 40 players. The school is VERY expensive and only offers "need based" financial aid. Similar to Ivies w their financial aid. 60k tuition per year with little athletic $ and no academic $. Quarter of a million bucks...ouch!

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I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.


But then someone is getting .05 to balance it out. How many girls on Northwestern you think are there with just .05? hmmm


Northwestern carries closer to 40 players. The school is VERY expensive and only offers "need based" financial aid. Similar to Ivies w their financial aid. 60k tuition per year with little athletic $ and no academic $. Quarter of a million bucks...ouch!



Bad generalization. You seem uninformed. See this post #76082 from August:


Princeton aid is by far the most generous.


http://www.princeton.edu/admission/financialaid/how_it_works/who_qualifies/

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I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.


But then someone is getting .05 to balance it out. How many girls on Northwestern you think are there with just .05? hmmm


Northwestern carries closer to 40 players. The school is VERY expensive and only offers "need based" financial aid. Similar to Ivies w their financial aid. 60k tuition per year with little athletic $ and no academic $. Quarter of a million bucks...ouch!


So all those blue chippers would average a 30% athletic award with a roster of 40. Nobody from LI gets need based so they are all there at over $40,000 per year. GREAT EDUCATION!!!!, but stop with the full ride nonsense.

Go to an average mid level school to get your 40-60% offer but don't forget to add back in the 10's of thousands of dollars we all spend to get the offer.

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I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.


But then someone is getting .05 to balance it out. How many girls on Northwestern you think are there with just .05? hmmm


You do realize there are kids on every D1 lacrosse team that don't get any athletic money at all, right??

If you make the team and contribute, maybe some money comes your way next year.

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I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.


But then someone is getting .05 to balance it out. How many girls on Northwestern you think are there with just .05? hmmm


You do realize there are kids on every D1 lacrosse team that don't get any athletic money at all, right??

If you make the team and contribute, maybe some money comes your way next year.

Very true! Most people don't realize that there are a lot of kids on the roster who are only receiving Academic or Financial Money! Furthermore there are many kids who's parents have plenty of money and are more than happy to pay full tuition for Duke, Northwestern,ND etc... They don't share in any athletic money. FYI The coaches will give the impact players (Blue chip) a much bigger piece of the pie! Most top programs don't play more than 15-17 in any meaningful time! Those are the kids getting the Athletic lions share!

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I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.


But then someone is getting .05 to balance it out. How many girls on Northwestern you think are there with just .05? hmmm


You do realize there are kids on every D1 lacrosse team that don't get any athletic money at all, right??

If you make the team and contribute, maybe some money comes your way next year.


Few and far between. Coaches know that part of the PR game especially with kids coming from big travel programs is that most every kid gets something on the way in to a D1 program and then it is adjusted for year 2.

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I guess there are different definitions of Blue Chip.



More like 75% for top players.


But then someone is getting .05 to balance it out. How many girls on Northwestern you think are there with just .05? hmmm


You do realize there are kids on every D1 lacrosse team that don't get any athletic money at all, right??

If you make the team and contribute, maybe some money comes your way next year.

Very true! Most people don't realize that there are a lot of kids on the roster who are only receiving Academic or Financial Money! Furthermore there are many kids who's parents have plenty of money and are more than happy to pay full tuition for Duke, Northwestern,ND etc... They don't share in any athletic money. FYI The coaches will give the impact players (Blue chip) a much bigger piece of the pie! Most top programs don't play more than 15-17 in any meaningful time! Those are the kids getting the Athletic lions share!


CR Told me my daughter will get something as long as I keep playing on Yellow Team #4. Is that not true? So some girls on the committed page didn't get money?? I thought it was only the D3 girls? WOW

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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.

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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.


They get exposure when they travel to Maryland to play a top YJ team what was the team that always played the Harlem globetrotters? That is us

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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.

There are over 100 women's D1 lax programs! There is a good chance if you are on team 2,3 or 4 that you can get athletic money. especially if you are the big fish in the small pond! There are team 4 kids going to Pace getting more $ than Team 1 kids going to Notre Dame, Duke etc..

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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.


Even on YJ 4th team that girl would be top 100 in her age group on the island. There are no other competitive clubs beside TG's and a 4th team YJ would make their 2nd team. At least there is movement in YJ. My daughter started on the 4th team, moved to the 3rd team her second year and played on the second last year. As girls develop their skills increase. Most girls who were great early top out at an early age and drop down. That's the toughest part for parents; recognizing that the sun is setting on their daughter's once promising lax career. All dreams of certain scholarships fade to black and they're left hoping she makes varsity by 10th grade.


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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.

There are over 100 women's D1 lax programs! There is a good chance if you are on team 2,3 or 4 that you can get athletic money. especially if you are the big fish in the small pond! There are team 4 kids going to Pace getting more $ than Team 1 kids going to Notre Dame, Duke etc..


And there is the problem kids going to Pace to play lacrosse with a $50,000 price tag where they let kids in with a 950 SAT. If your daughter EVER has the chance to go to Duke or ND throw her stick away and send her!!!

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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.


Even on YJ 4th team that girl would be top 100 in her age group on the island. There are no other competitive clubs beside TG's and a 4th team YJ would make their 2nd team. At least there is movement in YJ. My daughter started on the 4th team, moved to the 3rd team her second year and played on the second last year. As girls develop their skills increase. Most girls who were great early top out at an early age and drop down. That's the toughest part for parents; recognizing that the sun is setting on their daughter's once promising lax career. All dreams of certain scholarships fade to black and they're left hoping she makes varsity by 10th grade. You are right, the early entries to the Hornets think its a lifetime roster spot


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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.


Even on YJ 4th team that girl would be top 100 in her age group on the island. There are no other competitive clubs beside TG's and a 4th team YJ would make their 2nd team. At least there is movement in YJ. My daughter started on the 4th team, moved to the 3rd team her second year and played on the second last year. As girls develop their skills increase. Most girls who were great early top out at an early age and drop down. That's the toughest part for parents; recognizing that the sun is setting on their daughter's once promising lax career. All dreams of certain scholarships fade to black and they're left hoping she makes varsity by 10th grade.



Ohhhhh please keep telling yourself that the 4th team is good. My daughters club 2nd team crushed the YJ 3rd team last summer - a 4th team YJ player would be lucky to be in the top 300 in their age group. You sound ridiculous saying other clubs top teams can't beat YJ 4th team - please stop.

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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.


Even on YJ 4th team that girl would be top 100 in her age group on the island. There are no other competitive clubs beside TG's and a 4th team YJ would make their 2nd team. At least there is movement in YJ. My daughter started on the 4th team, moved to the 3rd team her second year and played on the second last year. As girls develop their skills increase. Most girls who were great early top out at an early age and drop down. That's the toughest part for parents; recognizing that the sun is setting on their daughter's once promising lax career. All dreams of certain scholarships fade to black and they're left hoping she makes varsity by 10th grade.



4th YJ team - really? They get blown out by the first and 2nd teams of at least :4 other clubs on LI - some kids on 4th YJ teams can barely throw and catch - but their checks clear. And no wonder why the checks keep coming with those sorts of promises from CR. Hang in there keep sending checks - your daughter will do great.

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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.


Even on YJ 4th team that girl would be top 100 in her age group on the island. There are no other competitive clubs beside TG's and a 4th team YJ would make their 2nd team. At least there is movement in YJ. My daughter started on the 4th team, moved to the 3rd team her second year and played on the second last year. As girls develop their skills increase. Most girls who were great early top out at an early age and drop down. That's the toughest part for parents; recognizing that the sun is setting on their daughter's once promising lax career. All dreams of certain scholarships fade to black and they're left hoping she makes varsity by 10th grade.



4th YJ team - really? They get blown out by the first and 2nd teams of at least :4 other clubs on LI - some kids on 4th YJ teams can barely throw and catch - but their checks clear. And no wonder why the checks keep coming with those sorts of promises from CR. Hang in there keep sending checks - your daughter will do great.


The top 2 TG, Elevate and Liberty teams - yes all 6 of those teams would beat any 4th YJ team and there are other clubs as well but those are a given.

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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.


Even on YJ 4th team that girl would be top 100 in her age group on the island. There are no other competitive clubs beside TG's and a 4th team YJ would make their 2nd team. At least there is movement in YJ. My daughter started on the 4th team, moved to the 3rd team her second year and played on the second last year. As girls develop their skills increase. Most girls who were great early top out at an early age and drop down. That's the toughest part for parents; recognizing that the sun is setting on their daughter's once promising lax career. All dreams of certain scholarships fade to black and they're left hoping she makes varsity by 10th grade.



4th YJ team - really? They get blown out by the first and 2nd teams of at least :4 other clubs on LI - some kids on 4th YJ teams can barely throw and catch - but their checks clear. And no wonder why the checks keep coming with those sorts of promises from CR. Hang in there keep sending checks - your daughter will do great.


The top 2 TG, Elevate and Liberty teams - yes all 6 of those teams would beat any 4th YJ team and there are other clubs as well but those are a given.


Watched 3rd team YJ beat TG 2nd team and place higher than TG black at national draw so you never know. If you beleive the original post that started this topic you are not very bright.

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Team 4??? Good luck with that. The only thing you will be getting for sure is a bill from YJ. If she is on team 4 she is at the bottom of the top 80 in her age group just on that club not to mention all the other clubs in that age group and the 4th team I on YJ isn't very good. I wouldn't get your hope up. Also team 4 won't get very much exposure.

There are over 100 women's D1 lax programs! There is a good chance if you are on team 2,3 or 4 that you can get athletic money. especially if you are the big fish in the small pond! There are team 4 kids going to Pace getting more $ than Team 1 kids going to Notre Dame, Duke etc..


And there is the problem kids going to Pace to play lacrosse with a $50,000 price tag where they let kids in with a 950 SAT. If your daughter EVER has the chance to go to Duke or ND throw her stick away and send her!!!


AMEN!!!!!

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