BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Long Island Lacrosse League : Overdue or Just Right?

Sanctioned by Who? US Lacrosse?

PREMISE: This is a transparent league that offers divisions that are recreational (PAL-like), divisions that are more competitive, divisions with travel teams, and run by an independent.

My thoughts: It would be awesome….but it must unite the entire LI lax community and it must benefit everyone involved.

If it’s only a league for travel/elite teams, it fails to serve the LI community.

I wish this attempt occurred earlier...at least for the age groups of my children.

Now, if you are the individual who is starting this new league, please take the following scenario under consideration, as I think it pertains to many towns here on the island:

A few of our local cronies who helped ‘run the show’ have split up this community, and now almost all families are forced to look elsewhere. Some great players/families want no part of travel lax. They wish for better options. Other families felt forced to join travel lax and are now regrettably pulled into the expensive travel lax machine. They wish for better options. Other families love travel lax but do not like the recreational scenario—because the town organization won’t make A/B teams, or make it very difficult to create a select tournament team, because the cronies want to control everything. Those families wish for better options.

Unfortunately, our kids, who just want to play together with talented friends in their age group/grade, may only play together in the MS or HS seasons only. Now there's tension from the different family factions on the sidelines looking for where they fit in an imaginary pecking order, all while the kids suffer throughout the process. It’s just wrong.

With tryouts 2-3 weeks away for travel, more families from all over LI are getting sucked into the vortex, and another nail is in the coffin for those who truly wish their community could develop together, cost effectively, in a league that benefits everyone of all levels.

I truly wish this league success BUT hope it benefits everyone in future generations. I really do.

Next year is definitely too late to mend the mess here. It will take 4-5 years to to correct itself, BUT ONLY IF the new lax kindergarten families can be educated. It sucks for those of us in it. Chances are the cronies will pass the power down to younger cronies, and so on…But if the process of a new league takes 4-5 years in order to clean up the old mess, and it's a league that can benefit everyone, fantastic. It’s worth it.

Who knows, maybe it will help those towns that can't decide on A/B teams...the town organization can now have a competitive offering with tryouts, and a recreational offering (PAL). But that may open a can of worms with any by-laws of PAL:…

...Any game not on the official schedule or any game played with a NON-P.A.L. Youth Lacrosse League will be considered a NON-SANCTIONED game. The team and or community playing a non- sanctioned game will assume all responsibility and liability for its players, coaches, spectators and officials...
...NO P.A.L. Lacrosse COACH will be permitted to coach in the P.A.L. spring youth lacrosse league if he or she is coaching in any other youth lacrosse league playing with NON-SANCTIONED N.Y. State or P.A.L. RULES DURING the spring. If so, the coach in question would have to sign a disclaimer. A Team participating in another league can not enter that team in the P.A.L. as a full team. That team must be broken up. This has always been a rule of the P.A.L….

In conclusion, if the organization for ‘Your Town' PAL sticks with PAL and not this new league, communities will be broken more, because some parents or hotbeds will create a new organization to play in this new sanctioned league…great, just what we need…two sets of cronies….if you think the back stabbing and nastiness was too much already, think about the fighting over field space in the town now!

THIS LEAGUE MUST UNITE EVERYONE, OR IT WILL CREATE A RIFT MUCH LARGER THAN THE ONE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

What do you think if this was a one stop shop for all types of lax with:

Development Divisions
Town Divisions A/B
Travel Divisions

With the option to participate in 3 seasons...Modified Shorter Fall Season. Winter Indoor. Typical Spring but with playoffs and championship.

It could be a turnkey solution that helps develop towns, but offers local travel teams a better arena to play each other.

Long Island Just Say Lacrosse is a little soft in my opinion. If a LI league is created, they better come up with a name that is strong - just like our LI players.

What happens when the town team of 18 girls the 4 best girls decide to plau for their yj and tg teams and 2 others decide to play for their title xi team. Now the towm team is left with 12 girls and no goalie. No what? Leave the spring to pal?

Here is my thoughts on youth town sports. Teach fundamentals and love of the game. Be apart of the local school program as a feeder program so the players can have the best possible experience in high school and girls can grow up playing together and have fun. Some times adults can feally really ruin things.

Leave pal alone. it is a good program. there is no need for an additional spring league.

PAL is a waste of time

PAL is a waste of time

What happens when the town team of 18 girls the 4 best girls decide to plau for their yj and tg teams and 2 others decide to play for their title xi team. Now the towm team is left with 12 girls and no goalie. No what? Leave the spring to pal?

Any updates for this league?

PAL is a waste of time

There should have been...let me get back on the guy's case!!

Any luck contacting the "guy"

LI Just Say Lacrosse...Wow, this guy really does not like the LI Junior Soccer League ([lacrosse]) - now he is trying to take their name after setting up a competing Youth Soccer league

Did they say when more information will start coming out on this new league? Or are they going to wait until Spring and hope everyone jumps on board?

My understanding is that an email contact has been set up and right after the Jewish New Year (Rosh Hashanah) some of LI Lax clubs will be invited to an exploratory meeting.

Guess this was all just a rumor to shake things up

Many soccer teams limp through the spring with PAL lacrosse conflicts until travel lacrosse kicks in in June. If there is a formal Lacrosse travel league that takes the place of the recreational PAL tough choices will have to be made on which game to go to when there is a conflict. Our soccer team has about 70% of the kids playing both sports

Soccer should be a FALL sport anyway! It's the only sport that requires you to play two season. I never understood that. Stick with fall, and the problem is solved.

College actually looking at going to both fall and spring with a continuing season.... sorry

College actually looking at going to both fall and spring with a continuing season.... sorry

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard! It's bad enough it happens with the youth teams!!

stop with the soccer league should only play in fall. lacrosse is played every month of the year, and not just one game a weekend. There are leagues in the summer, winter, spring and fall, day and night… and on top of these leagues there are tournaments every weekend, one and two dayers, in and out of state … and the laxers pay their clubs handsomely to play in them. The number of lax games the kids play far exceeds the number of soccer games played in both seasons combined.
In college the lax teams play fall ball before their spring season. It never ends.