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BOTC is opening a thread to discuss the National Premier Youth Lacrosse League. The web site link has been added to the Lacrosse Leagues Content Island along the left side of your display.

The NPYLL has published the following information on their web site's opening page :

If your club is interested in joining the NPYLL for 2012, we are actively looking for club teams from the Annapolis, Baltimore and DC metro areas for 2012 American Conference. We are also pursuing teams in the Philly/NJ. Interested clubs, please contact the league at info@npyll.com.

Age Updates for 2012

• U-15 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1996 - Aug 31 1998 (generally 7th & 8th grade boys)
• U-13 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1998 - Aug 31 2000 (generally 5th & 6th grade boys)
• U-11 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2000 - Aug 31 2002 (generally 3rd & 4th grade boys)
• U-9 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2002 - Aug 31 2004 (generally 1st & 2nd grade boys)

As you will also note, the Long Island Express has opted to play in this league this year which as BOTC indicated last year is the first clear sign of elite clubs looking for competition outside of the typical tournament format.

The games are scheduled from early April through Memorial Day, very similar to the Spring schedules one might expect to see from Premier or top regional soccer teams in their well established regional leagues.

The league caters for AA and A level teams.

Among the participants from the 2011 were the Arden Attackers, Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, BLC Crabs, Fearless, Hawks, MadLax, Next Level, General, Looney's, Chesapeake Rock, Hotstix, SP Lax, and Zingos Lacrosse.

The NPYLL also hosted their 2011 FallFest Champions tournament. The results from this November event are as follows.

2011 NPYLL FallFest Champions

U15AA - Crabs beat LI Express 9-6 in Final
U15A - Next Level beat Cannons 4-3 in final
U13AA - Madlax beat Crabs in 2OT's, 7-6 in Final
U13A - Hawks went 4-0 on the day to clinch
U11AA - Next Level beat Bethesda 5-2 in the final
U11A - Next Level went 4-0 on the day to clinch

The following are the general guidelines regarding the administation of the NPYLL games.

Administration of NPYLL

Roster sizes will be limited to 25 players.

Your roster can have up to 5 players added and subtracted, up to the 3rd game of the season.

Season will be 7 games with top 4 teams playing for league championship.

NPYLL will provide awards for the league champion.

We are following NCAA Rules.

Rosters may be checked each game by opposing team.

Illegal players can not be used for games. Fist time offense, forfeit the game, second time forfeit the season.

Refs: Home team coordinates refs, both teams pay at game time.

All players must be members of US Lacrosse.

using U-13 ages as an example boys born:
Sept 1 1998 - Aug 31 1999 - are generally in 7th grade
Sept 1 1999 - Aug 31 2000 - are generally in 6th grade

The info states this is a 5th/6th grade division. Is this a typo?

Or are the organizers of an elite program encouraging parents to hold their children back in school for the puposes of lacrosse development?

where are these games played

The table of U/years to graduation year to birth dates (based on your school's cut off dates) follow. In New [lacrosse], the cut off dates cane be anywhere from August to December on grade years which is why that is always a dangerous figure to be using.

U/Age .. Grad ... Birth ..... Grade
U/18 ... 2012 ... 1993/94 ... 12
U/17 ... 2013 ... 1994/95 ... 11
U/16 ... 2014 ... 1995/96 ... 10
U/15 ... 2015 ... 1996/97 ... 9
U/14 ... 2016 ... 1997/98 ... 8
U/13 ... 2017 ... 1998/99 ... 7
U/12 ... 2018 ... 1999/00 ... 6
U/11 ... 2019 ... 2000/01 ... 5
U/10 ... 2020 ... 2001/02 ... 4

Discussions indicate that there might be double-headers played if the games are in the Maryland area. Notice that the league is trying to attract some teams in the Philadelphia area. If New Jersey and Pennsylvania can be brought into the league, you will then have a "northern" axis which makes the league signficantly more interesting regionally. Keep your eyes on this developing story as it has the possibility to improve te competition landscape.

Age Updates for 2012
U-15 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1996 - Aug 31 1998 (generally 7th & 8th grade boys)
U-13 League - Birthdates Sept 1 1998 - Aug 31 2000 (generally 5th & 6th grade boys)
U-11 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2000 - Aug 31 2002 (generally 3rd & 4th grade boys)
U-9 League - Birthdates Sept 1 2002 - Aug 31 2004 (generally 1st & 2nd grade boys)

If anyone every disputes the way Maryland holds their kids back, here is all the proof you need. U-13 5th and 6th grade??? It doesn't matter as its an age based league but really shows their thinking and unfortunate impact on this problem.

Keep in mind the school cut off in Maryland is Aug 31 or Sept 1. Where in NY its Dec 1.


It should be all about Grades, thats who the kids will compete with in High School and for College spots.

9 years old in 2nd grade????????????? Something wrong there my kid is in 3rd grade and is 8 .

Your missing the point, in YOUTH lacrosse it should ALL be about safety! You can let them compete against each other at the grade level when they get to HS, recruiting camps and tournaments. These age/ grade make no sense no matter what state you are from.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Nearly everyone in the Mid-Atlantic who plays U13 is in 6th or 7th grade.

Rather than spending more time on the grade grouping (which is clearly in error), let's get back to the formation of the league in the "northern" states and more club participation.

The Baltimore teams do encourage hold backs. Especially the blc crabs. He is one of the founders of the npyll so he makes sure the dates work. It makes him look like a lax guru when he has teams stacked with boys one and two years older than most. How many boys on his team could be in the grade above? All done to get in schools by parents he exploits as the wizard. Just look at his golden boy stanwick he was almost 20 when graduating high school.

Assuming you are talking about Steele and not a brother - according to wikipedia he was born 9/12/89 and graduated HS in 2007 at the age of 18 and college in 2011 at the age of 22 - although apparently his nickname in college was grandpa but that was because he walked like an old man not because his club team held him back.

Yes thats his birthday but he graduated in the spring of 2008. Assuming he graduated in may of 2008 that makes him 19 years and 8 months old when he graduated. Im a fan of him and as you see holdback works. My point is that they do hold back and the players are not on equal ground especially at the younger ages.

Up until the end of your freshman year the guidelines should be about age and safety. After that grade can come in. Nobody can disagree that long island teams do not size up in u15 but after that they dominate again. Could be one of the reasons kids get held back. Another problem is these are still kids let them grow into there bodies before you rate them

For Spring 2012, the NPYLL have added two new "franchises" : the Zingos and Maryland Elite. Best wishes to both joining clubs.

What happened to the express? I dont see them on the web site as joining the npyll anymore.

They don't have their website listed with the other clubs. I heard a rumor that enrollment in the OBLL is light this year. Maybe they needed them in the 2016 bracket to fill it out?

According to the NPYLL web site (see the content island on the left side of the BOTC display), action opens on Sunday, April 1st.

From a local regional perspective, none of the New [lacrosse]/New Jersey teams that were being discussed have joined the program for this season.

Brackets and teams follow.

National (AA) U/15 Teams
Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, Crabs, Hawks, MadLax, MD Elite, Next Level, Rock, Zingos

National (AA) U/13 Teams
Arden, Bethesda, Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, Crabs, Fearless, Generals, Hawks, MadLax, MLC, Next Level, Rock, Zingos

National (AA) U/11 Teams
Bethesda, Breakers, Cannons, Club Blue, Fearless, Hawks, MD Elite, MLC, Next Level Zingos

American (A) U/15 Teams
Bethesda, Cannons, Cavaliers, Club Blue, Cobras, Generals, MadLax, MD Elite, Next Level, Zingos

American (A) U/13 Teams
Arden, Breakers, Bethesda, Cannons, Club Blue, Generals, Hawks, Hotstix, MadLax Blue, MadLax White, MD Elite, Next Level, Rock, Zingos

American (A) U/11 Teams
Arden Blue, Arden Green, Bethesda, Club Blue, Generals, MadLax, MLC, Next Level

Notice the rules for the NPYLL Spring 2012 season per their web site :


Anyone notice that rosters "may be checked" for each game by the opposing team? Notice the penalties and sanctions being called out here?

National (AA) U/15 Schedule - Spring 2012

Breakers - Crabs (h) 4/1/2012
Next Level - Cannons (h) 4/1/2012
Zingos - Club Blue (h) 4/1/2012
Madlax - Hawks (h) 4/1/2012
Rock - MD Elite (h) 4/1/2012
Club Blue - Breakers (h) 4/15/2012
Cannons - Rock (h) 4/15/2012
Crabs - Madlax (h) 4/15/2012
Hawks - Zingos (h) 4/15/2012
MD Elite - Next Level (h) 4/15/2012
Next Level - Breakers (h) 4/22/2012
Madlax - Cannons (h) 4/22/2012
MD Elite - Club Blue (h) 4/22/2012
Crabs - Hawks (h) 4/22/2012
Rock - Zingos (h) 4/22/2012
Hawks - Breakers (h) 4/29/2012
Cannons - Club Blue (h) 4/29/2012
Rock - Crabs (h) 4/29/2012
MD Elite - Madlax (h) 4/29/2012
Zingos - Next Level (h) 4/29/2012
Madlax - Club Blue (h) 5/6/2012
Cannons - Crabs (h) 5/6/2012
Breakers - Zingos (h) 5/6/2012
MD Elite - Hawks (h) 5/6/2012
Next Level - Rock (h) 5/6/2012
Breakers - Cannons (h) 5/13/2012
Club Blue - Crabs (h) 5/13/2012
Hawks - Rock (h) 5/13/2012
Madlax - Next Level (h) 5/13/2012
Zingos - MD Elite (h) 5/13/2012
Breakers - MD Elite (h) 5/20/2012
Club Blue - Rock (h) 5/20/2012
Crabs - Next Level (h) 5/20/2012
Zingos - Madlax (h) 5/20/2012
Cannons - Hawks (h) 5/20/2012

NPYLL>American (A)>U11>
Rank	Team		W	L	T	GP	PCT	GF	GA
1		Arden Green	2	0	0	2	100	17	6
1		Cannons	2	0	0	2	100	17	6
1		Next Level	1	0	0	1	100	9	6
2		Arden Blue	1	1	0	2	50	10	12
3		Bethesda	0	1	0	1	0	4	6
3		Club Blue	0	1	0	1	0	3	6
4		Generals	0	1	0	1	0	2	11
5		MLC	0	2	0	2	0	8	17

 

NPYLL>American (A)>U13>
Rank	Team		W	L	T	GP	PCT	GF	GA
1		Hawks	1	0	0	1	100	12	4
2		Bethesda	1	0	0	1	100	7	5
3		Breakers	2	0	0	2	100	22	6
4		MD Elite	2	0	0	2	100	16	9
5		Hotstix	1	1	0	2	50	11	19
6		Generals	1	1	0	2	50	9	9
7		Arden	1	1	0	2	50	11	12
8		Zingos	1	1	0	2	50	14	14
9		Madlax White	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
10		Cannons	0	1	0	1	0	3	7
10		Club Blue	0	1	0	1	0	4	7
10		Madlax Blue	0	1	0	1	0	5	7
11		Rock	0	1	0	1	0	4	12
12		Next Level	0	2	0	2	0	7	14

 

NPYLL>American (A)>U15>
Rank	Team		W	L	T	GP	PCT
1		Club Blue	2	0	0	2	100
1		Generals	2	0	0	2	100
1		Next Level	2	0	0	2	100
2		Madlax	1	1	0	2	50
3		Cavaliers	0	0	2	2	0
3		Bethesda	0	1	0	1	0
3		Cannons	0	1	1	2	0
3		Cobra	0	1	0	1	0
3		MD Elite	0	1	1	2	0
3		Zingos	0	2	0	2	0

 

NPYLL>National (AA)>U11>
Rank	Team		W	L	T	GP	PCT
1		Hawks	2	0	0	2	100
1		Next Level	2	0	0	2	100
2		Breakers	1	1	0	2	50
2		Club Blue	1	1	0	2	50
2		Madlax	1	1	0	2	50
2		MD Elite	1	1	0	2	50
2		Zingos	1	1	0	2	50
3		Fearless	0	1	1	2	0
3		MLC	0	1	1	2	0
3		Bethesda	0	2	0	2	0

 

NPYLL>National (AA)>U13>
Rank	Team		W	L	T	GP	PCT
1		Breakers	2	0	0	2	100
2		Cannons	1	0	1	2	50
2		Fearless	1	0	1	2	50
2		Hawks	1	0	1	2	50
2		Madlax	1	0	1	2	50
2		Arden	1	1	0	2	50
2		Club Blue	1	1	0	2	50
2		Crabs	1	1	0	2	50
2		Zingos	1	1	0	2	50
3		Bethesda	0	1	0	1	0
3		Generals	0	1	2	3	0
3		MLC	0	1	1	2	0
3		Rock	0	1	1	2	0
3		Next Level	0	2	0	2	0

 

NPYLL>National (AA)>U15>
Rank	Team		W	L	T	GP	PCT
1		Club Blue	2	0	0	2	100
1		Next Level	2	0	0	2	100
2		Crabs	1	0	1	2	50
2		Cannons	1	1	0	2	50
2		Hawks	1	1	0	2	50
2		Rock	1	1	0	2	50
2		Zingos	1	1	0	2	50
3		Madlax	0	1	1	2	0
3		Breakers	0	2	0	2	0
3		MD Elite	0	2	0	2	0

 

NPYLL>National (AA)>U15>
Rank	Team		W	L	T	GP	PCT	GF	GA
1		Club Blue	7	0	0	7	100	74	24
2		Crabs	6	1	0	7	86	109	33
3		Next Level	6	1	0	7	86	67	45
4		Hawks	5	2	0	7	71	52	42
5		Madlax	3	4	0	7	43	46	53
6		Zingos	3	4	0	7	43	30	49
7		Cannons	2	5	0	7	29	45	69
8		Rock	1	6	0	7	14	19	56
9		MD Elite	1	6	0	7	14	31	60
10		Breakers	1	6	0	7	14	30	72

And SCPAL has coaches handing in rosters scribbled on napkins. Why they cant have a book like Football is beyond me.