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LOL. Instead of endless tirades about teams with supposed "illegal" players, now you guys rail against private schools and Catholics?

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Not like we don't have to pay the same school taxes you do so really we are supporting your kids not the other way around.

Check the papers lately. Seems like more public school teachers are getting caught with the wrong things on their computers or touching the wrong people.




I thought this was a lacrosse forum....Can we get back to discussion of the sport and cool it a bit with the Catholic bashing?

I'm catholic, but you're really not going to try and defend the church's record on that subject? Are you? Honestly, given that record, I would never send my son to an all boys catholic school.

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Not like we don't have to pay the same school taxes you do so really we are supporting your kids not the other way around.

Check the papers lately. Seems like more public school teachers are getting caught with the wrong things on their computers or touching the wrong people.



I'm catholic, but you're really not going to try and defend the church's record on that subject? Are you? Honestly, given that record, I would never send my son to an all boys catholic school.


I thought this was a lacrosse forum....Can we get back to discussion of the sport and cool it a bit with the Catholic bashing?

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How is your 2017 player feeling about the early commitments as of late?

Is there added pressure now to "perform better"?

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How is your 2017 player feeling about the early commitments as of late?

Is there added pressure now to "perform better"?


YES!!! Ridiculous. Very hard on the boys, and they are feeling the stress!

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How is your 2017 player feeling about the early commitments as of late?

Is there added pressure now to "perform better"?


YES!!! Ridiculous. Very hard on the boys, and they are feeling the stress!


What "boys"?? How can you speak for all the 2017 commits?

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How is your 2017 player feeling about the early commitments as of late?

Is there added pressure now to "perform better"?


YES!!! Ridiculous. Very hard on the boys, and they are feeling the stress!


What "boys"?? How can you speak for all the 2017 commits?


Even the Turtle boys aren't "shaking up" anything on their varsity teams! One has a couple goals, F/O star is mediocre at best! So which boys are you suggesting are excelling as freshman, with all the recruiting pressure on?

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Public schools are exactly that- public. Nothing special about them and anyone and everyone goes there that want to go there. ANYONE! So my point is don't even bother with anyone comparing public with private. You're dealing with idiots if they think people pay $$ for a private education for sub pat education!!


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How is your 2017 player feeling about the early commitments as of late?

Is there added pressure now to "perform better"?


YES!!! Ridiculous. Very hard on the boys, and they are feeling the stress!


What "boys"?? How can you speak for all the 2017 commits?


Read carefully before posting a response.

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How is your 2017 player feeling about the early commitments as of late?

Is there added pressure now to "perform better"?


YES!!! Ridiculous. Very hard on the boys, and they are feeling the stress!


What "boys"?? How can you speak for all the 2017 commits?


Read carefully before posting a response.


Sounds like all the LI 2017 commits are doing pretty good for themselves right now in their public or private HS's.

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Question: what percentage of kids could commit as 9th graders but hold out for something better? Does that happen or is the practice to grab the first offer? Do kids (and their parents) get swept up in the early commit frenzy and fear available slots get filled the longer they vo without commuting?

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How is your 2017 player feeling about the early commitments as of late?

Is there added pressure now to "perform better"?


YES!!! Ridiculous. Very hard on the boys, and they are feeling the stress!


What "boys"?? How can you speak for all the 2017 commits?


Even the Turtle boys aren't "shaking up" anything on their varsity teams! One has a couple goals, F/O star is mediocre at best! So which boys are you suggesting are excelling as freshman, with all the recruiting pressure on?


Might want to check Newsday about that "mediocre FO kid". Turtle boys, current and former are all doing just fine. I will send them your regards.

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How is your 2017 player feeling about the early commitments as of late?

Is there added pressure now to "perform better"?


YES!!! Ridiculous. Very hard on the boys, and they are feeling the stress!


What "boys"?? How can you speak for all the 2017 commits?


Even the Turtle boys aren't "shaking up" anything on their varsity teams! One has a couple goals, F/O star is mediocre at best! So which boys are you suggesting are excelling as freshman, with all the recruiting pressure on?


Might want to check Newsday about that "mediocre FO kid". Turtle boys, current and former are all doing just fine. I will send them your regards.


was at that game and saw kid lose four in a row, then go early and not get called! Of course when our guy went early they called that! Newsday couldn't even get a picture of him winning so they have our guy smoking him, wierd, huh? the spin that some people get! They only kid we couln't shut down was #40, temendous player!

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This seems to be the first year where these 9th graders are committing in such large numbers.
You only verbal for your dream school, most Coaches respect the verbal and lay off. So many good Players and a lot of great schools. Lots of programs improving.

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Might want to check Newsday about that "mediocre FO kid". Turtle boys, current and former are all doing just fine. I will send them your regards. [/quote]

Agreed. I am from MD, not LI, but my understanding is that kids from some schools don't play varsity as freshman. Chaminade is one example I was told of. Basically, I think at this point the only level play evaluation of 2017s is club play. My son starts on his varsity team and has lights out stats. But his team sucks and their schedule is whatever. There are some JV players at MIAA teams who are committed to places like Hop. I don't understand how a high school resume means anything as a freshman to the negative. The fact is a lot of great 2017 players are at prep schools where there are a lot of great players ahead of them in older classes.

I thought the Turtles were without question the best 2017 team I saw. I thought a lot of them merit being high level D1 prospects and think it is silly to propose maybe they are not all that because a few of them run JV at Chaminade. Stupid.

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Any committed 2017 player or parent feeling stress over being under pressure to perform better this Spring...well, you're insecure, phony tough, soft and in for a bad ride ahead. I am not a former lacrosse player, but did play D1 in two sports at a Pac 10 school and made All-America in both. Not a humble brag or point about me...this is all on your kids and you.

Committing to a college and then swagging out in your future college shorts and sweatshirts amongst your club or high school teammates, and Twittering about "your team" that you won't be on campus to play on for years is pathetic. I'd whoop my boy back into shape pretty good for trying that one.

Train hard, compete hard, be a good teammate and be a good kid off the field. Oh, and by the way, those are the four things that will make you stand out to the college coaches who recruited you when you arrive. When you arrive, everyone WAS a good recruit, and that won't ever matter for anything ever again.

Stop being such a [lacrosse]. You're from New [lacrosse]. Start acting like it.

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How is your 2017 player feeling about the early commitments as of late?

Is there added pressure now to "perform better"?


YES!!! Ridiculous. Very hard on the boys, and they are feeling the stress!


What "boys"?? How can you speak for all the 2017 commits?


Even the Turtle boys aren't "shaking up" anything on their varsity teams! One has a couple goals, F/O star is mediocre at best! So which boys are you suggesting are excelling as freshman, with all the recruiting pressure on?


Might want to check Newsday about that "mediocre FO kid". Turtle boys, current and former are all doing just fine. I will send them your regards.


correct, and the turtle boys aren't the only commits doing well in HS..

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Question: what percentage of kids could commit as 9th graders but hold out for something better? Does that happen or is the practice to grab the first offer? Do kids (and their parents) get swept up in the early commit frenzy and fear available slots get filled the longer they vo without commuting?


Who knows. And how do you know these players grab the 1st offer?? Are you assuming they only got 1 offer?? And even if they did take something as a holding spot than good for them. There are not as many spots at the mid to high level D1's as many think, meaning spots where you go early and get money and will play when you get to that college.

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Check these out. Doing a nice job:

Fresh Bay Shore A

Fresh HHHW A

Fresh Sayville M

Fresh SE Mid

Fresh Commack M

Fresh Deer Park D

Im sure we have others.

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Check these out. Doing a nice job:

Fresh Bay Shore A

Fresh HHHW A

Fresh Sayville M

Fresh SE Mid

Fresh Commack M

Fresh Deer Park D

Im sure we have others.



Commack kid is a stud, gotta be the best fresh F/O on island!

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Check these out. Doing a nice job:

Fresh Bay Shore A

Fresh HHHW A

Fresh Sayville M

Fresh SE Mid

Fresh Commack M

Fresh Deer Park D

Im sure we have others.


Good for those boys, I'm sure they will keep doing great. Good thing they are in a public school lacrosse system, otherwise we are looking at freshman team.

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2018 parent here. Please advise on fall showcase for next years freshman.

Philly Freshman Showcase
NAT175

Is there a fall Jake Reed or Maverick Showtime event?

Any others that are worth it?

Thank you in advance.

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Question: what percentage of kids could commit as 9th graders but hold out for something better? Does that happen or is the practice to grab the first offer? Do kids (and their parents) get swept up in the early commit frenzy and fear available slots get filled the longer they vo without commuting?


Who knows. And how do you know these players grab the 1st offer?? Are you assuming they only got 1 offer?? And even if they did take something as a holding spot than good for them. There are not as many spots at the mid to high level D1's as many think, meaning spots where you go early and get money and will play when you get to that college.


Easy does it.....take a breath and reread the post. It was just a question and not even remotely critical.

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HHHW A . Put together a nice start to the season.

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2018 parent here. Please advise on fall showcase for next years freshman.

Philly Freshman Showcase
NAT175

Is there a fall Jake Reed or Maverick Showtime event?

Any others that are worth it?

Thank you in advance.


IN order of importance in my opinion:

- Philly Showcase - by far the best and most important
- Nat'l 175 and Jake Reed Fall - even with Jake Reed less important in the Fall than in the summer. In fact, many of the top kids attended Philly Showcase over Jake Reed as they were on the same weekend.
- Everything else

In terms of Fall tournaments, Terrapin Classic was the best attended by college coaches for the 2017s this Fall followed by the Big 4, NSLCA Fall Classic, and 3D in fl$. There may have been others.

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How did he do against Se yesterday

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Check these out. Doing a nice job:

Fresh Bay Shore A

Fresh HHHW A

Fresh Sayville M

Fresh SE Mid

Fresh Commack M

Fresh Deer Park D

Im sure we have others.


Good for those boys, I'm sure they will keep doing great. Good thing they are in a public school lacrosse system, otherwise we are looking at freshman team.


Combined league record for the teams listed is 8 wins 9 losses. Factor in that Smith E is 3-0. Only Bayshore at 2-1 has a winning league record.

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Check these out. Doing a nice job:

Fresh Bay Shore A

Fresh HHHW A

Fresh Sayville M

Fresh SE Mid

Fresh Commack M

Fresh Deer Park D

Im sure we have others.



Commack kid is a stud, gotta be the best fresh F/O on island!


remember....All would be playing on Freshmen teams at St A or Cham.

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Check these out. Doing a nice job:

Fresh Bay Shore A

Fresh HHHW A

Fresh Sayville M

Fresh SE Mid

Fresh Commack M

Fresh Deer Park D

Im sure we have others.



Commack kid is a stud, gotta be the best fresh F/O on island!


remember....All would be playing on Freshmen teams at St A or Cham.


Also how many should be in 10th grade or shall I say have a 1998 birth year (not in December).

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Check these out. Doing a nice job:

Fresh Bay Shore A

Fresh HHHW A

Fresh Sayville M

Fresh SE Mid

Fresh Commack M

Fresh Deer Park D

Im sure we have others.



Commack kid is a stud, gotta be the best fresh F/O on island!


remember....All would be playing on Freshmen teams at St A or Cham.


Also how many should be in 10th grade or shall I say have a 1998 birth year (not in December).


Doubt many at Sta or Cham are older in the freshman class lacrosse wise. I know of one (maybe two) at Cham. Really aren't many others as far as I know, nice try.

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What are you guys going to do when your kids are in college, complain they are playing against some kids who are 21 when they are 18? Toughen up a little.

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Dont forget about these:

CSH Fresh- A

Glenn Fresh- D

Glenn Fresh- A

NB Fresh- D


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I find it exciting and fun to watch these Boys on Varsiry now and the others in years to come. Most of us have been watching them play since 3rd grade. Reading the box scores and recognizing these players is nice to see.

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How is your 2017 player feeling about the early commitments as of late?

Is there added pressure now to "perform better"?


YES!!! Ridiculous. Very hard on the boys, and they are feeling the stress!


What "boys"?? How can you speak for all the 2017 commits?


Even the Turtle boys aren't "shaking up" anything on their varsity teams! One has a couple goals, F/O star is mediocre at best! So which boys are you suggesting are excelling as freshman, with all the recruiting pressure on?


Might want to check Newsday about that "mediocre FO kid". Turtle boys, current and former are all doing just fine. I will send them your regards.


was at that game and saw kid lose four in a row, then go early and not get called! Of course when our guy went early they called that! Newsday couldn't even get a picture of him winning so they have our guy smoking him, wierd, huh? the spin that some people get! They only kid we couln't shut down was #40, temendous player!


That is the most bias article yet! Picture proves it!

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I am glad they are playing varsity - its just, don't give them credit for being a freshman. But even if they were a Soph playn varsity its an accomplishment.

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What are you guys going to do when your kids are in college, complain they are playing against some kids who are 21 when they are 18? Toughen up a little.

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Any committed 2017 player or parent feeling stress over being under pressure to perform better this Spring...well, you're insecure, phony tough, soft and in for a bad ride ahead. I am not a former lacrosse player, but did play D1 in two sports at a Pac 10 school and made All-America in both. Not a humble brag or point about me...this is all on your kids and you.

Committing to a college and then swagging out in your future college shorts and sweatshirts amongst your club or high school teammates, and Twittering about "your team" that you won't be on campus to play on for years is pathetic. I'd whoop my boy back into shape pretty good for trying that one.

Train hard, compete hard, be a good teammate and be a good kid off the field. Oh, and by the way, those are the four things that will make you stand out to the college coaches who recruited you when you arrive. When you arrive, everyone WAS a good recruit, and that won't ever matter for anything ever again.

Stop being such a [lacrosse]. You're from New [lacrosse]. Start acting like it.


Talk about an overinflated know it all. Did you learn any reading comprehension at your PAC 10 school or were you just the ultimate jock?

Read the OP again: it asked if the 2017's in general (not specifically the committed ones) are feeling any pressure as a result of the recent commits in the 2017 class.

Normally these issues would have been encountered in the upper classman years. Being that slots are now going earlier; does then the non committed, high caliber 2017 player feel any added pressures to perform better in order to secure their position at the school(s) of their dreams?

Accurate comments please.

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GTown did to an LSM/D, Duke will make one soon (to a reclassified 2017), ND, in the summer, Loyola, no idea .. but it will be a Baltimore kid first

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When will Duke, G-Town , Notre Dame and Loyola start to ask for verbals.

What does it mean to reclassify. Doesn't it just mean to repeat a grade in elementary school? To hold a kid back for lacrosse or do people hold their kid back for other sports too? Do high schools like this?

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GTown did to an LSM/D, Duke will make one soon (to a reclassified 2017), ND, in the summer, Loyola, no idea .. but it will be a Baltimore kid first

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When will Duke, G-Town , Notre Dame and Loyola start to ask for verbals.

What does it mean to reclassify. Doesn't it just mean to repeat a grade in elementary school? To hold a kid back for lacrosse or do people hold their kid back for other sports too? Do high schools like this?


Yes. Yes. Some do.

There's pages and pages on this. Time to catch up.

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[quote=Anonymous]I am glad they are playing varsity - its just, don't give them credit for being a freshman. But even if they were a Soph playn varsity its an accomplishment.

Committing as a 9th grader is an accomplishment too I guess. And taking up a roster spot while never seeing the field at that college is an accomplishment too. Many of the LI and MD people will carry the same baggage all the way. There will be an excuse in the future for why you kid can't play at the next level. The reason is LI and MD club owners and parents would like to quarantine the sport, and the eventual outcome is you can't manipulate that at a higher level. D1 coaches have better problems than listen to you whine about how special your son it. That's your club owner's job.

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Congratutlations to the only two Freshman named to the boys top 100 list in Newsday

F/O specialist from Commack Kevin Snyder

Attack from CSH Ian Laviano (Plays for team 91)

Awesome accomplishment!

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