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“I am not a TT Dad” = I am absolutely a TT Dad.
The 27 TT D is slow-footed, good teams make them look silly.
28 TT is vastly overrated, mostly by their Dads

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“I am not a TT Dad” = I am absolutely a TT Dad.
The 27 TT D is slow-footed, good teams make them look silly.
28 TT is vastly overrated, mostly by their Dads


This is why lacrosse Dads get a bad name. Do you realize you are advocating about a team(s) that make you pay to be a part of them? More than half these kids are holdbacks, they will get a small percentage of money for scholarship, and they will need therapy when they are older because of the psychological damage the Dads have caused. Time to lighten' up.

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I thought TT 2028 was on the verge of folding? 0-9 for the fall. Managed 1 competitive game in the 9. Average goal difference was -10.

Fusion and Mesa likely picking up anyone that can play.

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“I am not a TT Dad” = I am absolutely a TT Dad.
The 27 TT D is slow-footed, good teams make them look silly.
28 TT is vastly overrated, mostly by their Dads

The stupidity on this message board never ceases to amaze me. The fact that I am not a TT dad but I can recognize lacrosse talent is clearly too triggering for you to handle. Why don't you go cry about it in a safe space. Maybe your son is just as talented as the TT 27 defenders, who knows. By your responses he's most likely not since someone pointing out talent gets you so easily triggered.

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TT is so overrated, kids are obnoxious but nearly as much as their Dads…
I’ve seen them numerous times - if their non-athletic D goes high D1, then college lacrosse has a talent problem.
Keep buying what those TT “counselors” are selling; they’re laughing all the way to the bank

Wow why all the TT detest? Jealous of 25 and 26 successes? Time will tell but I am pretty sure TT will get a lot of D1 commits. They are definitely hit and miss at times but they have beaten both BBL and Machine within last year I do not think many other teams have done that if so feel free to post.

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Enough already with 6th graders. 27’s are on the clock as far as recruiting goes. Who has looked good so far this fall?

Team Ten 2027 is the best local 2027 team. Morsell, Luchovich and French on that team are some of the top recruits in the entire class. All three were getting legitimate varsity minutes on the top teams in the Inter Ac as freshmen.


Good players! The team plays worse then it use to. Got rid of daddy ball, yet some how the players got worse. Keep an eye on Brotherly Love. They have some great players and much better coaching.


Really? Currently ranked 5 nationally on US Club lax but playing worse? Doesn't make any sense. Regardless, it should be a good game if TT and BL played as it looks like BL put together a respectable 2027 squad.

Do you really believe rankings after six games means anything? Last year TT performed worse then the year before. Who knows what will happen this year? Their offense is not as good as it use to be, in spite of picking up several strong players. Their defense is mid. BL picked up two or three strong middies and some good d players who elected to leave TT.

When TT and BL faced off last year TT took it. I believe this year BL is worth a watch. Currently ranked 8th nationally, but still irrelevant given so few games.

No I don't 100% buy into rankings after 6 games, don't ask me such a ludicrous question; however I used that as an easily accessible datapoint to substantiate the fact that TT 2027 is a serious contender to be a top team nationally. I've seen TT 2027 play numerous times this year. They have legitimate talent at every position. Skilled attackman (two of the best in the entire class), athletic middies that can run by people and shoot on the run, big physical defense, etc. They have all the pieces to play at a very high level. Only things that could hold them back this year would be injuries, practice continuity and or coaching, all which I'm in the know on for this team. Regardless good luck to both TT and BL


You are the guy that chose to use the rankings to make your point. TT and BL are both "serious contenders." I am not taking anything away from them. In a BL TT matchup. TT takes attack definitely deep and an insane amount of talent. Agreed they have two of the best, but it seems they don't play that well together. BL TT middies are close. Maybe tied, but I would give a slight edge to BL. I think it could be argued the other way. BL takes goalies and defense. TT d is big but slow. BL defense is quicker, cover better and have better stick skills.

The starting defense for TT is not big and slow........the goalies are both very good as well. They will play again at some point but last year's game was not really even a close game.

The big players are slow. TT has a very good defender who is not particularly big and is not slow. He is also very good. I just think BL has better defenders overall. TT's goalies are both very good. BL's goalies are just better. They will play again and it should be a great game.

MvB is a beast. TT lost him because of an inability to evaluate talent. BL picked up a couple of other great mids from TT.


This clown said the starting defense for TT is big and slow meanwhile in about a years time at least 5 poles for TT will be committed to high end D1 schools if they want. Hopefully you're good at something else because scouting lacrosse is a skill that escapes you.

Easy there Bozo the Dad, Future is always moving. Lets not count our D1 chickens until they are hatched.

Come back here in a year Bozo and read this to eat your words. The writing is on the wall. It's so blatantly obvious. Illiteracy is your only excuse here

Easy there, Shakespeare of Scouting. While I may lack literacy in the art of predicting the future with the confidence of a carnival psychic like you, your lack of creativity shines brighter than your misplaced arrogance. If calling people “illiterate” is your pièce de résistance, maybe it's time to pick up a thesaurus—or better yet, a mirror.

We’ll see where those D1 dreams land in a year. Until then, maybe work on leveling up your originality instead of being the psychic carnival Bozo clown of this site .

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TT is so overrated, kids are obnoxious but nearly as much as their Dads…
I’ve seen them numerous times - if their non-athletic D goes high D1, then college lacrosse has a talent problem.
Keep buying what those TT “counselors” are selling; they’re laughing all the way to the bank

I am not a TT dad, but if you are claiming that the 2027 and 2026 TT teams are overrated then you are delusional

Give it a rest TT dad, the jig is up, Overrated !!

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HHH 25s, TT 26s 27s TT will lead pack again with most D1. 28s will be Freedom. The Dukes daddies on this board should stick to being middle school champs.

TT 25's over 20 commits so I think right there with HHH. This is good for the Philly area will help future Philly classes with over 50 commits in 25 classes from those 2 clubs.

No HHH 2025 is ahead of TT 2025 from both a quantity and quality perspective of recruits. For example, HHH 2025 has 4 players going to Duke and all 4 of them are in the top 5 in their class at their respective positions. TT 2025 is very good, however HHH is on another level up. HHH 2025 is up there with PrimeTime, Team 91 LI and Team 91 MD vying for top class in the country. HHH 2025 is an anomaly, no other HHH is on that level

Disagree it is pretty even. We see it in football and basketball all the time do not get stuck on player rankings, etc. D1 is D1 and a lot of kids do not care about going to Duke for example. Lot of things factor in to a decision and with the roster limits coming some of these kids are going to regret where they go. If you look at top high schools in area and who is playing on those teams it is pretty even between these 2 teams. HHH definitely is better at getting their kids ranked, etc. because they focus on that. All these kids are good and time will tell at the next level.

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HHH 25s, TT 26s 27s TT will lead pack again with most D1. 28s will be Freedom. The Dukes daddies on this board should stick to being middle school champs.

TT 25's over 20 commits so I think right there with HHH. This is good for the Philly area will help future Philly classes with over 50 commits in 25 classes from those 2 clubs.

No HHH 2025 is ahead of TT 2025 from both a quantity and quality perspective of recruits. For example, HHH 2025 has 4 players going to Duke and all 4 of them are in the top 5 in their class at their respective positions. TT 2025 is very good, however HHH is on another level up. HHH 2025 is up there with PrimeTime, Team 91 LI and Team 91 MD vying for top class in the country. HHH 2025 is an anomaly, no other HHH is on that level

HHH is also NLF which helps make all these rankings and some kids just are not seen as much as others. Showcases, etc. do help you get ranked higher because you are seen more and you are paying more into the system.

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Team 10 2025 24 commits
Team 10 2026 21 commits before 11/1
Team 10 2027 will do just as well

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Team 10 2025 24 commits
Team 10 2026 21 commits before 11/1
Team 10 2027 will do just as well

fact Check....False !!

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Enough already with 6th graders. 27’s are on the clock as far as recruiting goes. Who has looked good so far this fall?

Team Ten 2027 is the best local 2027 team. Morsell, Luchovich and French on that team are some of the top recruits in the entire class. All three were getting legitimate varsity minutes on the top teams in the Inter Ac as freshmen.


Good players! The team plays worse then it use to. Got rid of daddy ball, yet some how the players got worse. Keep an eye on Brotherly Love. They have some great players and much better coaching.


Really? Currently ranked 5 nationally on US Club lax but playing worse? Doesn't make any sense. Regardless, it should be a good game if TT and BL played as it looks like BL put together a respectable 2027 squad.

Do you really believe rankings after six games means anything? Last year TT performed worse then the year before. Who knows what will happen this year? Their offense is not as good as it use to be, in spite of picking up several strong players. Their defense is mid. BL picked up two or three strong middies and some good d players who elected to leave TT.

When TT and BL faced off last year TT took it. I believe this year BL is worth a watch. Currently ranked 8th nationally, but still irrelevant given so few games.

No I don't 100% buy into rankings after 6 games, don't ask me such a ludicrous question; however I used that as an easily accessible datapoint to substantiate the fact that TT 2027 is a serious contender to be a top team nationally. I've seen TT 2027 play numerous times this year. They have legitimate talent at every position. Skilled attackman (two of the best in the entire class), athletic middies that can run by people and shoot on the run, big physical defense, etc. They have all the pieces to play at a very high level. Only things that could hold them back this year would be injuries, practice continuity and or coaching, all which I'm in the know on for this team. Regardless good luck to both TT and BL


You are the guy that chose to use the rankings to make your point. TT and BL are both "serious contenders." I am not taking anything away from them. In a BL TT matchup. TT takes attack definitely deep and an insane amount of talent. Agreed they have two of the best, but it seems they don't play that well together. BL TT middies are close. Maybe tied, but I would give a slight edge to BL. I think it could be argued the other way. BL takes goalies and defense. TT d is big but slow. BL defense is quicker, cover better and have better stick skills.

The starting defense for TT is not big and slow........the goalies are both very good as well. They will play again at some point but last year's game was not really even a close game.

The big players are slow. TT has a very good defender who is not particularly big and is not slow. He is also very good. I just think BL has better defenders overall. TT's goalies are both very good. BL's goalies are just better. They will play again and it should be a great game.

MvB is a beast. TT lost him because of an inability to evaluate talent. BL picked up a couple of other great mids from TT.


This clown said the starting defense for TT is big and slow meanwhile in about a years time at least 5 poles for TT will be committed to high end D1 schools if they want. Hopefully you're good at something else because scouting lacrosse is a skill that escapes you.

Easy there Bozo the Dad, Future is always moving. Lets not count our D1 chickens until they are hatched.

Come back here in a year Bozo and read this to eat your words. The writing is on the wall. It's so blatantly obvious. Illiteracy is your only excuse here

Easy there, Shakespeare of Scouting. While I may lack literacy in the art of predicting the future with the confidence of a carnival psychic like you, your lack of creativity shines brighter than your misplaced arrogance. If calling people “illiterate” is your pièce de résistance, maybe it's time to pick up a thesaurus—or better yet, a mirror.

We’ll see where those D1 dreams land in a year. Until then, maybe work on leveling up your originality instead of being the psychic carnival Bozo clown of this site .

All those words and you still said nothing intelligent. Go learn how to make an valid point.

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HHH 25s, TT 26s 27s TT will lead pack again with most D1. 28s will be Freedom. The Dukes daddies on this board should stick to being middle school champs.

TT 25's over 20 commits so I think right there with HHH. This is good for the Philly area will help future Philly classes with over 50 commits in 25 classes from those 2 clubs.

No HHH 2025 is ahead of TT 2025 from both a quantity and quality perspective of recruits. For example, HHH 2025 has 4 players going to Duke and all 4 of them are in the top 5 in their class at their respective positions. TT 2025 is very good, however HHH is on another level up. HHH 2025 is up there with PrimeTime, Team 91 LI and Team 91 MD vying for top class in the country. HHH 2025 is an anomaly, no other HHH is on that level

Disagree it is pretty even. We see it in football and basketball all the time do not get stuck on player rankings, etc. D1 is D1 and a lot of kids do not care about going to Duke for example. Lot of things factor in to a decision and with the roster limits coming some of these kids are going to regret where they go. If you look at top high schools in area and who is playing on those teams it is pretty even between these 2 teams. HHH definitely is better at getting their kids ranked, etc. because they focus on that. All these kids are good and time will tell at the next level.

Of course the IL and NLF get making rankings wrong. For example, the two best attackmen in the 2025 class are Jackson Maher out of Bullis and Khalif Hocker out of St Xavier but Millon gets the spotlight with the number 1 ranking? Why mostly due to name recognition. Regardless of rankings, HHH 2025 has better talent than TT 2025. Go watch the HHH 2025 kids play in spring for their HS and you'll why they were so highly recruited.

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Enough already with 6th graders. 27’s are on the clock as far as recruiting goes. Who has looked good so far this fall?

Team Ten 2027 is the best local 2027 team. Morsell, Luchovich and French on that team are some of the top recruits in the entire class. All three were getting legitimate varsity minutes on the top teams in the Inter Ac as freshmen


Good players! The team plays worse then it use to. Got rid of daddy ball, yet some how the players got worse. Keep an eye on Brotherly Love. They have some great players and much better coaching.


Really? Currently ranked 5 nationally on US Club lax but playing worse? Doesn't make any sense. Regardless, it should be a good game if TT and BL played as it looks like BL put together a respectable 2027 squad.

Do you really believe rankings after six games means anything? Last year TT performed worse then the year before. Who knows what will happen this year? Their offense is not as good as it use to be, in spite of picking up several strong players. Their defense is mid. BL picked up two or three strong middies and some good d players who elected to leave TT.

When TT and BL faced off last year TT took it. I believe this year BL is worth a watch. Currently ranked 8th nationally, but still irrelevant given so few games.

No I don't 100% buy into rankings after 6 games, don't ask me such a ludicrous question; however I used that as an easily accessible datapoint to substantiate the fact that TT 2027 is a serious contender to be a top team nationally. I've seen TT 2027 play numerous times this year. They have legitimate talent at every position. Skilled attackman (two of the best in the entire class), athletic middies that can run by people and shoot on the run, big physical defense, etc. They have all the pieces to play at a very high level. Only things that could hold them back this year would be injuries, practice continuity and or coaching, all which I'm in the know on for this team. Regardless good luck to both TT and BL


You are the guy that chose to use the rankings to make your point. TT and BL are both "serious contenders." I am not taking anything away from them. In a BL TT matchup. TT takes attack definitely deep and an insane amount of talent. Agreed they have two of the best, but it seems they don't play that well together. BL TT middies are close. Maybe tied, but I would give a slight edge to BL. I think it could be argued the other way. BL takes goalies and defense. TT d is big but slow. BL defense is quicker, cover better and have better stick skills.

The starting defense for TT is not big and slow........the goalies are both very good as well. They will play again at some point but last year's game was not really even a close game.
The big players are slow. TT has a very good defender who is not particularly big and is not slow. He is also very good. I just think BL has better defenders overall. TT's goalies are both very good. BL's goalies are just better. They will play again and it should be a great game.

MvB is a beast. TT lost him because of an inability to evaluate talent. BL picked up a couple of other great mids from TT.


This clown said the starting defense for TT is big and slow meanwhile in about a years time at least 5 poles for TT will be committed to high end D1 schools if they want. Hopefully you're good at something else because scouting lacrosse is a skill that escapes you.

Easy there Bozo the Dad, Future is always moving. Lets not count our D1 chickens until they are hatched.

Come back here in a year Bozo and read this to eat your words. The writing is on the wall. It's so blatantly obvious. Illiteracy is your only excuse here

Easy there, Shakespeare of Scouting. While I may lack literacy in the art of predicting the future with the confidence of a carnival psychic like you, your lack of creativity shines brighter than your misplaced arrogance. If calling people “illiterate” is your pièce de résistance, maybe it's time to pick up a thesaurus—or better yet, a mirror.

We’ll see where those D1 dreams land in a year. Until then, maybe work on leveling up your originality instead of being the psychic carnival Bozo clown of this site .

All those words and you still said nothing intelligent. Go learn how to make an valid point.

Sorry it was above your level . Big, slow and over rated , Read slow and you can understand it.

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Teams don’t play in college players do arugue the kid not the team.

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Enough already with 6th graders. 27’s are on the clock as far as recruiting goes. Who has looked good so far this fall?

Team Ten 2027 is the best local 2027 team. Morsell, Luchovich and French on that team are some of the top recruits in the entire class. All three were getting legitimate varsity minutes on the top teams in the Inter Ac as freshmen


Good players! The team plays worse then it use to. Got rid of daddy ball, yet some how the players got worse. Keep an eye on Brotherly Love. They have some great players and much better coaching.


Really? Currently ranked 5 nationally on US Club lax but playing worse? Doesn't make any sense. Regardless, it should be a good game if TT and BL played as it looks like BL put together a respectable 2027 squad.

Do you really believe rankings after six games means anything? Last year TT performed worse then the year before. Who knows what will happen this year? Their offense is not as good as it use to be, in spite of picking up several strong players. Their defense is mid. BL picked up two or three strong middies and some good d players who elected to leave TT.

When TT and BL faced off last year TT took it. I believe this year BL is worth a watch. Currently ranked 8th nationally, but still irrelevant given so few games.

No I don't 100% buy into rankings after 6 games, don't ask me such a ludicrous question; however I used that as an easily accessible datapoint to substantiate the fact that TT 2027 is a serious contender to be a top team nationally. I've seen TT 2027 play numerous times this year. They have legitimate talent at every position. Skilled attackman (two of the best in the entire class), athletic middies that can run by people and shoot on the run, big physical defense, etc. They have all the pieces to play at a very high level. Only things that could hold them back this year would be injuries, practice continuity and or coaching, all which I'm in the know on for this team. Regardless good luck to both TT and BL


You are the guy that chose to use the rankings to make your point. TT and BL are both "serious contenders." I am not taking anything away from them. In a BL TT matchup. TT takes attack definitely deep and an insane amount of talent. Agreed they have two of the best, but it seems they don't play that well together. BL TT middies are close. Maybe tied, but I would give a slight edge to BL. I think it could be argued the other way. BL takes goalies and defense. TT d is big but slow. BL defense is quicker, cover better and have better stick skills.

The starting defense for TT is not big and slow........the goalies are both very good as well. They will play again at some point but last year's game was not really even a close game.
The big players are slow. TT has a very good defender who is not particularly big and is not slow. He is also very good. I just think BL has better defenders overall. TT's goalies are both very good. BL's goalies are just better. They will play again and it should be a great game.

MvB is a beast. TT lost him because of an inability to evaluate talent. BL picked up a couple of other great mids from TT.


This clown said the starting defense for TT is big and slow meanwhile in about a years time at least 5 poles for TT will be committed to high end D1 schools if they want. Hopefully you're good at something else because scouting lacrosse is a skill that escapes you.

Easy there Bozo the Dad, Future is always moving. Lets not count our D1 chickens until they are hatched.

Come back here in a year Bozo and read this to eat your words. The writing is on the wall. It's so blatantly obvious. Illiteracy is your only excuse here

Easy there, Shakespeare of Scouting. While I may lack literacy in the art of predicting the future with the confidence of a carnival psychic like you, your lack of creativity shines brighter than your misplaced arrogance. If calling people “illiterate” is your pièce de résistance, maybe it's time to pick up a thesaurus—or better yet, a mirror.

We’ll see where those D1 dreams land in a year. Until then, maybe work on leveling up your originality instead of being the psychic carnival Bozo clown of this site .

All those words and you still said nothing intelligent. Go learn how to make an valid point.

Sorry it was above your level . Big, slow and over rated , Read slow and you can understand it.

Get a load of this guy hahahah

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Why do you all keep arguing which teams are better? isn’t the real argument is my kid better than your kid? Let’s have that argument, so I can win.

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Who is the best D1 player from the Philly area currently?

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Who is the best D1 player from the Philly area currently?
Scott Smith at Johns Hopkins

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Now ask who the best 2031 is and you will have 25 maniac dads chiming in.

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Word is the ANC kid at Penn State, Aquino I think, is crushing it, will be starting as a true freshman.
Keep an eye on him

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Who is the best D1 player from the Philly area currently?

He is a very good player.

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Hey Joe! Thanks for checking in.

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Who is the best D1 player from the Philly area currently?

Henry Bard at Duke, Scott Smith at Hopkins and Andrew McKeein at Princeton

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HHH 25s, TT 26s 27s TT will lead pack again with most D1. 28s will be Freedom. The Dukes daddies on this board should stick to being middle school champs.

TT 25's over 20 commits so I think right there with HHH. This is good for the Philly area will help future Philly classes with over 50 commits in 25 classes from those 2 clubs.

No HHH 2025 is ahead of TT 2025 from both a quantity and quality perspective of recruits. For example, HHH 2025 has 4 players going to Duke and all 4 of them are in the top 5 in their class at their respective positions. TT 2025 is very good, however HHH is on another level up. HHH 2025 is up there with PrimeTime, Team 91 LI and Team 91 MD vying for top class in the country. HHH 2025 is an anomaly, no other HHH is on that level

Disagree it is pretty even. We see it in football and basketball all the time do not get stuck on player rankings, etc. D1 is D1 and a lot of kids do not care about going to Duke for example. Lot of things factor in to a decision and with the roster limits coming some of these kids are going to regret where they go. If you look at top high schools in area and who is playing on those teams it is pretty even between these 2 teams. HHH definitely is better at getting their kids ranked, etc. because they focus on that. All these kids are good and time will tell at the next level.

Of course the IL and NLF get making rankings wrong. For example, the two best attackmen in the 2025 class are Jackson Maher out of Bullis and Khalif Hocker out of St Xavier but Millon gets the spotlight with the number 1 ranking? Why mostly due to name recognition. Regardless of rankings, HHH 2025 has better talent than TT 2025. Go watch the HHH 2025 kids play in spring for their HS and you'll why they were so highly recruited.

With the 2025’s effectively graduated out of the program, HHH is completely barren until you get to the Mav’s team. Should we talk about that a bit more?

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Barren until BM recruits all the top players over after 8th grade. What recruiting assistance can Duke’s offer? They have zero connections, but they can offer the ALL?
Not sure that will get it done - those boys will all leave

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Of course the IL and NLF get making rankings wrong. For example, the two best attackmen in the 2025 class are Jackson Maher out of Bullis and Khalif Hocker out of St Xavier but Millon gets the spotlight with the number 1 ranking? Why mostly due to name recognition. Regardless of rankings, HHH 2025 has better talent than TT 2025. Go watch the HHH 2025 kids play in spring for their HS and you'll why they were so highly recruited.

Don't know about the TT 2025 kids, but the HHH 2025 kids are all a year older than everyone else.

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Enough already with 6th graders. 27’s are on the clock as far as recruiting goes. Who has looked good so far this fall?

Team Ten 2027 is the best local 2027 team. Morsell, Luchovich and French on that team are some of the top recruits in the entire class. All three were getting legitimate varsity minutes on the top teams in the Inter Ac as freshmen


Good players! The team plays worse then it use to. Got rid of daddy ball, yet some how the players got worse. Keep an eye on Brotherly Love. They have some great players and much better coaching.


Really? Currently ranked 5 nationally on US Club lax but playing worse? Doesn't make any sense. Regardless, it should be a good game if TT and BL played as it looks like BL put together a respectable 2027 squad.

Do you really believe rankings after six games means anything? Last year TT performed worse then the year before. Who knows what will happen this year? Their offense is not as good as it use to be, in spite of picking up several strong players. Their defense is mid. BL picked up two or three strong middies and some good d players who elected to leave TT.

When TT and BL faced off last year TT took it. I believe this year BL is worth a watch. Currently ranked 8th nationally, but still irrelevant given so few games.

No I don't 100% buy into rankings after 6 games, don't ask me such a ludicrous question; however I used that as an easily accessible datapoint to substantiate the fact that TT 2027 is a serious contender to be a top team nationally. I've seen TT 2027 play numerous times this year. They have legitimate talent at every position. Skilled attackman (two of the best in the entire class), athletic middies that can run by people and shoot on the run, big physical defense, etc. They have all the pieces to play at a very high level. Only things that could hold them back this year would be injuries, practice continuity and or coaching, all which I'm in the know on for this team. Regardless good luck to both TT and BL


You are the guy that chose to use the rankings to make your point. TT and BL are both "serious contenders." I am not taking anything away from them. In a BL TT matchup. TT takes attack definitely deep and an insane amount of talent. Agreed they have two of the best, but it seems they don't play that well together. BL TT middies are close. Maybe tied, but I would give a slight edge to BL. I think it could be argued the other way. BL takes goalies and defense. TT d is big but slow. BL defense is quicker, cover better and have better stick skills.

The starting defense for TT is not big and slow........the goalies are both very good as well. They will play again at some point but last year's game was not really even a close game.
The big players are slow. TT has a very good defender who is not particularly big and is not slow. He is also very good. I just think BL has better defenders overall. TT's goalies are both very good. BL's goalies are just better. They will play again and it should be a great game.

MvB is a beast. TT lost him because of an inability to evaluate talent. BL picked up a couple of other great mids from TT.


This clown said the starting defense for TT is big and slow meanwhile in about a years time at least 5 poles for TT will be committed to high end D1 schools if they want. Hopefully you're good at something else because scouting lacrosse is a skill that escapes you.

Easy there Bozo the Dad, Future is always moving. Lets not count our D1 chickens until they are hatched.

Come back here in a year Bozo and read this to eat your words. The writing is on the wall. It's so blatantly obvious. Illiteracy is your only excuse here

Easy there, Shakespeare of Scouting. While I may lack literacy in the art of predicting the future with the confidence of a carnival psychic like you, your lack of creativity shines brighter than your misplaced arrogance. If calling people “illiterate” is your pièce de résistance, maybe it's time to pick up a thesaurus—or better yet, a mirror.

We’ll see where those D1 dreams land in a year. Until then, maybe work on leveling up your originality instead of being the psychic carnival Bozo clown of this site .

All those words and you still said nothing intelligent. Go learn how to make an valid point.

Sorry it was above your level . Big, slow and over rated , Read slow and you can understand it.

Big yes, slow no. Only one slow here is clearly you

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Of course the IL and NLF get making rankings wrong. For example, the two best attackmen in the 2025 class are Jackson Maher out of Bullis and Khalif Hocker out of St Xavier but Millon gets the spotlight with the number 1 ranking? Why mostly due to name recognition. Regardless of rankings, HHH 2025 has better talent than TT 2025. Go watch the HHH 2025 kids play in spring for their HS and you'll why they were so highly recruited.

Don't know about the TT 2025 kids, but the HHH 2025 kids are all a year older than everyone else.

Disagree if you watch high school lacrosse objectively you will notice the Team Ten kids. They are just not marketed the same and have more public school kids or kids at EA, etc. We all know Haverford and Malvern have some really good 2025's from both programs. For all the hype around Malvern, Haverford has won the Interac last 2 seasons and only have 3 2025 HHH kids on roster.

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Of course the IL and NLF get making rankings wrong. For example, the two best attackmen in the 2025 class are Jackson Maher out of Bullis and Khalif Hocker out of St Xavier but Millon gets the spotlight with the number 1 ranking? Why mostly due to name recognition. Regardless of rankings, HHH 2025 has better talent than TT 2025. Go watch the HHH 2025 kids play in spring for their HS and you'll why they were so highly recruited.

Don't know about the TT 2025 kids, but the HHH 2025 kids are all a year older than everyone else.

Disagree if you watch high school lacrosse objectively you will notice the Team Ten kids. They are just not marketed the same and have more public school kids or kids at EA, etc. We all know Haverford and Malvern have some really good 2025's from both programs. For all the hype around Malvern, Haverford has won the Interac last 2 seasons and only have 3 2025 HHH kids on roster.

No, regardless of marketing if you watch the games objectively, the best 2025 players in the philly area are on HHH. Gavin Cooper, Michael Ortlieb, Owen Mears, Will Tantillo, Charlie Halpert, Logan Turley, etc all are on HHH 2025

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Anybody want to offer up a pre-season Inter-Ac ranking so we have something to debate over the long weekend?

I’m assuming it’s Still the 3 sub grouping of

Tier 1: HS, MP
Tier 2: EA, SCH
Tier 3: GA, PC


Any teams make significant improvements or the opposite?

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Of course the IL and NLF get making rankings wrong. For example, the two best attackmen in the 2025 class are Jackson Maher out of Bullis and Khalif Hocker out of St Xavier but Millon gets the spotlight with the number 1 ranking? Why mostly due to name recognition. Regardless of rankings, HHH 2025 has better talent than TT 2025. Go watch the HHH 2025 kids play in spring for their HS and you'll why they were so highly recruited.

Don't know about the TT 2025 kids, but the HHH 2025 kids are all a year older than everyone else.

Disagree if you watch high school lacrosse objectively you will notice the Team Ten kids. They are just not marketed the same and have more public school kids or kids at EA, etc. We all know Haverford and Malvern have some really good 2025's from both programs. For all the hype around Malvern, Haverford has won the Interac last 2 seasons and only have 3 2025 HHH kids on roster.

Bad argument. It completely ignores the 2023 and 2024 classes by assuming the 2025 class is the only class that impacted the inter ac championship the last 2 seasons

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Malvern and Haverford for sure up top. SCH should be vastly improved but can’t hang w the big boys.
GA is supposedly putting $$ into their program but that will take time. Love the PC coach but they will struggle…
2 School race, not much to debate

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Of course the IL and NLF get making rankings wrong. For example, the two best attackmen in the 2025 class are Jackson Maher out of Bullis and Khalif Hocker out of St Xavier but Millon gets the spotlight with the number 1 ranking? Why mostly due to name recognition. Regardless of rankings, HHH 2025 has better talent than TT 2025. Go watch the HHH 2025 kids play in spring for their HS and you'll why they were so highly recruited.

Don't know about the TT 2025 kids, but the HHH 2025 kids are all a year older than everyone else.

Disagree if you watch high school lacrosse objectively you will notice the Team Ten kids. They are just not marketed the same and have more public school kids or kids at EA, etc. We all know Haverford and Malvern have some really good 2025's from both programs. For all the hype around Malvern, Haverford has won the Interac last 2 seasons and only have 3 2025 HHH kids on roster.

Bad argument. It completely ignores the 2023 and 2024 classes by assuming the 2025 class is the only class that impacted the inter ac championship the last 2 seasons

Malvern had really good 23 and 24 classes. Haverford players are usually underrated for whatever reason which happens in club lacrosse as well with certain clubs. The DMID from Haverford that went to Duke (Interac player of the year) and the Haverford 24 Goalie for example. Their rankings may have gotten updated now but they were not really talked about and you probably do not know who they are unless you watched Philly high school lacrosse. They were the best players at their positions in the area.

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Malvern and Haverford for sure up top. SCH should be vastly improved but can’t hang w the big boys.
GA is supposedly putting $$ into their program but that will take time. Love the PC coach but they will struggle…
2 School race, not much to debate

Haverford and Malvern should be tops, but Haverford offense has only 2 returning starters I think on offense the 2 lefty's. Haverford defense is really good and face off kid can dominate when he plays. Malvern opposite they get most of offense back but lose defense. EA and SCH could definitely pull off an upset they are better than people think.

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Malvern and Haverford for sure up top. SCH should be vastly improved but can’t hang w the big boys.
GA is supposedly putting $$ into their program but that will take time. Love the PC coach but they will struggle…
2 School race, not much to debate

The polarity between Malvern and HS this year will be interesting to see play out. Malvern is loaded onoffense with a lot of senior fire power while HS has a loaded defense with senior studs. HS should have the edge face off wise against Malvern, but it should be a great game either way.

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Fall Club season over and top teams in Philly via USClub:

2026: Mesa (19), TT (22), Freedom (49), BL (53), HHH (62)
2027: TT (4), BL (12), Freedom (29), HHH (44)
2028: Freedom (4), Dukes (10), BL (21), Mesa (37)
2029: Futures (3), dukes (30), NXT (37), T11 (40)
2030: Dukes (4), Dawgs (22), Fusion (57)
2031: Dukes (8), Dawgs (26), T11 (40), Mesa (45)
2032: Dukes (3), Delco (41), NXT (46), TT (47)

I’m sure things will change come summer but good snapshot of the area club scene.

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Fall Club season over and top teams in Philly via USClub:

2026: Mesa (19), TT (22), Freedom (49), BL (53), HHH (62)
2027: TT (4), BL (12), Freedom (29), HHH (44)
2028: Freedom (4), Dukes (10), BL (21), Mesa (37)
2029: Futures (3), dukes (30), NXT (37), T11 (40)
2030: Dukes (4), Dawgs (22), Fusion (57)
2031: Dukes (8), Dawgs (26), T11 (40), Mesa (45)
2032: Dukes (3), Delco (41), NXT (46), TT (47)

I’m sure things will change come summer but good snapshot of the area club scene.


This will definitely change in the Spring and Summer when athletes that play a fall sport become more present in their club lacrosse teams.

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Malvern and Haverford for sure up top. SCH should be vastly improved but can’t hang w the big boys.
GA is supposedly putting $$ into their program but that will take time. Love the PC coach but they will struggle…
2 School race, not much to debate

The polarity between Malvern and HS this year will be interesting to see play out. Malvern is loaded onoffense with a lot of senior fire power while HS has a loaded defense with senior studs. HS should have the edge face off wise against Malvern, but it should be a great game either way.

I would not underestimate Malvern's defense. They lost some players that had starting roles the past couple of years to graduation, but have some VERY good talent back there. Not going to see a massive drop off.

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Fall Club season over and top teams in Philly via USClub:

2026: Mesa (19), TT (22), Freedom (49), BL (53), HHH (62)
2027: TT (4), BL (12), Freedom (29), HHH (44)
2028: Freedom (4), Dukes (10), BL (21), Mesa (37)
2029: Futures (3), dukes (30), NXT (37), T11 (40)
2030: Dukes (4), Dawgs (22), Fusion (57)
2031: Dukes (8), Dawgs (26), T11 (40), Mesa (45)
2032: Dukes (3), Delco (41), NXT (46), TT (47)

I’m sure things will change come summer but good snapshot of the area club scene.


This will definitely change in the Spring and Summer when athletes that play a fall sport become more present in their club lacrosse teams.

I don’t think it will change much. These games don’t interfere with football/soccer schedules. Maybe golf schedules… but I don’t know any legit top tier lacrosse player that is a golfer.

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