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No HHH 2025 is ahead of TT 2025 from both a quantity and quality perspective of recruits. For example, HHH 2025 has 4 players going to Duke and all 4 of them are in the top 5 in their class at their respective positions. TT 2025 is very good, however HHH is on another level up. HHH 2025 is up there with PrimeTime, Team 91 LI and Team 91 MD vying for top class in the country. HHH 2025 is an anomaly, no other HHH is on that level

Over/ under 5 years until the NLF and A.L.L combine and do a true "Best of the Best" Tournament to end the summer. Would become an all time event like "Champ Camp" once was.

Let’s just remember that HHH 26’s are way behind, and the HHH 27’s and HHH 28’s are not competitive. Ain’t no amount of gaslighting BM can do to prove otherwise. He’s solely focused attention the Birddogs and getting his own son recruited. If you aren’t a Birddog, I’d be ejecting out of that program instead of going down with the ship. Trends don’t lie.

BM who has placed hundreds of division 1 players know that nothing matters until High School so the idea that he is focused on his own son is idiotic. “Trends” are that talent jumps around year to year. No club in Philly is the only club in Philly.

Glory be to those historically great HHH teams!!

The current lineups are a joke ( with the exception of the Birddogs, they are loaded)

Why don't you ask a current 26er how they are feeling about the recruiting process and how BM has done to help. And then ask the 25s and the 24s. You will hear the same thing.

Dropping in to thank a few of the parents on this site. My son had a fantastic fall. He was (by far) the best player on the team and on the field. He finished 3 fall tournaments with 37 goals and is invited to a number of "play days" for various colleges. He is not able to commit as he is too young but we would never have been here if parents didn't make great suggestions about talking to "travel" coaches about the fee almost all of you pay (not me). If I can share some advice, you parents who have your kid in only one sport (lacrosse), you are doing it wrong.

I’ll bite. What do the current 26’ers say? Is BM helping them?

What happened to the NXT program? They’ve probably been around the longest, yet none of their teams/grad years are worth discussing…why is that?

Same thing that’s going to happen to Dukes/BPG

Nah Dukes is Elite currently leading the club scene in Instagram posts regarding their way too soon fall rankings.

The only teams that are discussed on here are the teams that have huge egos. Nobody brags about playing for NXT. They were the first totally corporate lacrosse organization. They play primarily in their own tournaments at the youth level. By the time high school rolls around, the HHH and Dukes and BL’s snatch up who they want for the national tourney tilts.
In short, they are consistently middle of the pack. Nothing exciting by design. Keep the tuition steady, most money coming from the tourney side of the corporation.

So…is that a good thing or bad that NXT doesn’t market themselves or their players? I don’t ever see them w top talent so I’m leaning towards bad. I guess if your kid is blah, play for a blah club.

Oh they market themselves and their players… just not on anonymous message boards. In fact they put together some of the best sizzle reels for their players (assuming you are making plays)

Rough weekend for HHH in NY.

Good players! The team plays worse then it use to. Got rid of daddy ball, yet some how the players got worse. Keep an eye on Brotherly Love. They have some great players and much better coaching.

Stop the BL love…they only had 2 good teams 23 and 24
Never could get a another team to be good
HHH yes had great teams in past….

Really? Currently ranked 5 nationally on US Club lax but playing worse? Doesn't make any sense. Regardless, it should be a good game if TT and BL played as it looks like BL put together a respectable 2027 squad.

These local all star team players the past 5 years do not translate very well in college. Amazing how many have transferred or stopped playing at the college level. Two D1 college coach buddies of mine have said they are staying away from many of the teams that chirp the most on this board.

So you have two DI coaching buddies that peruse this site, looking for the clubs/parents that pair the most, then they avoid recruiting kids from those clubs…?
And you want us to believe that? Clown show

Who said anything about scouting this site? They said they avoid most club "all star" teams, which happen to be the teams that parents yap about on this site. Learn to read.

what? National teams? Facts seem to disagree with your assessment if you look at commits. The local club teams that are talked about do very well with commits so no idea what you are referring too.

Do you really believe rankings after six games means anything? Last year TT performed worse then the year before. Who knows what will happen this year? Their offense is not as good as it use to be, in spite of picking up several strong players. Their defense is mid. BL picked up two or three strong middies and some good d players who elected to leave TT.

When TT and BL faced off last year TT took it. I believe this year BL is worth a watch. Currently ranked 8th nationally, but still irrelevant given so few games.

TT is very deep good team but hard to figure out sometimes. Maybe they are missing kids at times or play too many kids. They rotate players a lot which might be how they want to be in getting kids looks but not really focused on winning.

Dukes 31 #6 Dukes 30 #3 if your kid has talent I’ll see you at tryouts next year

No I don't 100% buy into rankings after 6 games, don't ask me such a ludicrous question; however I used that as an easily accessible datapoint to substantiate the fact that TT 2027 is a serious contender to be a top team nationally. I've seen TT 2027 play numerous times this year. They have legitimate talent at every position. Skilled attackman (two of the best in the entire class), athletic middies that can run by people and shoot on the run, big physical defense, etc. They have all the pieces to play at a very high level. Only things that could hold them back this year would be injuries, practice continuity and or coaching, all which I'm in the know on for this team. Regardless good luck to both TT and BL

You are the guy that chose to use the rankings to make your point. TT and BL are both "serious contenders." I am not taking anything away from them. In a BL TT matchup. TT takes attack definitely deep and an insane amount of talent. Agreed they have two of the best, but it seems they don't play that well together. BL TT middies are close. Maybe tied, but I would give a slight edge to BL. I think it could be argued the other way. BL takes goalies and defense. TT d is big but slow. BL defense is quicker, cover better and have better stick skills.

I think you need to comprehend the post to comment. You sound silly.

The starting defense for TT is not big and slow........the goalies are both very good as well. They will play again at some point but last year's game was not really even a close game.

BL has MvB, absolute beast.

The big players are slow. TT has a very good defender who is not particularly big and is not slow. He is also very good. I just think BL has better defenders overall. TT's goalies are both very good. BL's goalies are just better. They will play again and it should be a great game.

MvB is a beast. TT lost him because of an inability to evaluate talent. BL picked up a couple of other great mids from TT.

Honestly he’s a little thin and a ball hog. Lots of great players get cut as sophomores. Just keep hitting wall and TT may take him back for next year. Or he can return to HHH. God knows they need more talent over there.

You are the guy that chose to make claims with no evidence. You clearly don't know what you are talking about if you are saying TT defense is big and slow. The are big and ATHLETIC. This is obvious if you watch them play. Go ask any HS or college coach about TT defense's athleticism that's actually seen them play and you'll see you're just talking nonsense. They will be even more athletic as they grow into their bodies, which makes it apparent that you don't understand athletic development. Secondarily what is your point in pointing out that I chose to use an easily accessible data point to invalid a nonsensical claim that was made with no supporting evidence? The nonsensical claim being they are playing worse than they used to. Remember, this is a claim you purported with ZERO evidence. The more you type the more it becomes obvious that you are clueless. It's best that you sit back and let the people that actually know what they are talking about discuss these things.

This clown said the starting defense for TT is big and slow meanwhile in about a years time at least 5 poles for TT will be committed to high end D1 schools if they want. Hopefully you're good at something else because scouting lacrosse is a skill that escapes you.

Easy there Bozo the Dad, Future is always moving. Lets not count our D1 chickens until they are hatched.

Great 27 chatter! Keep it going dads!

Come back here in a year Bozo and read this to eat your words. The writing is on the wall. It's so blatantly obvious. Illiteracy is your only excuse here

TT is so overrated, kids are obnoxious but nearly as much as their Dads…
I’ve seen them numerous times - if their non-athletic D goes high D1, then college lacrosse has a talent problem.
Keep buying what those TT “counselors” are selling; they’re laughing all the way to the bank

Who are the best ‘27 on each of the rosters? Let’s hear about ‘em.

I am not a TT dad, but if you are claiming that the 2027 and 2026 TT teams are overrated then you are delusional