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The student lefty attack is a summer birthday, but was also a student lefty attack for the 2028 Duke's team. The midfielder supposedly is a June birthday, but there's a good bit of questionable activity around that birthdate. He was also a student for the 2028 Brotherly Love team. This is one of the nuanced areas around the holdback issue. It's the question of, what's more beneficial, the age or the age and an extra year of formal lacrosse training at a higher level than might be available to other kids. Regardless, these kids performed at a high level on age, then stayed back to have a leg up on other kids. Regardless of the outcomes in middle school, I can't imagine this truly benefits these kids. Ultimately, it is what it is. These are the kids our kids will be measured against.

The goalie missed the cut-off by a week for the World Series and I don't believe he's ever held back, but started school late. Can't be overstated how much better he is than the goalie they had at WS. And that World Series team benefitted from an easier bracket because of a higher ranking that should have gone to True Ches who beat them at the qualifier (not a True Ches parent). That world series team was very beatable, unlike the full squad. They're a good team without their holdbacks, but all but unbeatable with them. Again, it is what it is, but lets not forget these points when handing out flowers to Futures.

Don’t forget the losses all these kids were taking on their previous teams before this all star team was formed. I always remind their parents when they are acting like clowns. Shuts them up quick. Other then that, I enjoy watching my son play against this team and holding his own against these kids.

Their left attack and Midfielder played on the 2028 Brother Love team not because they are 2028 reclasses but because the 2029 Brotherly Love team is a hot mess. Many 2029 Philly Freedom kids actually play up on the 28 team for the same reason.

I think the issue lies in our definition of reclass. Technically, any summer birthday is a reclassed kid. My kid has been on a couple of teams over the years and based on Teamsnap birthdates, I would guess 40% of all HOCO elite rosters are populated with summer birthdays. I bet 90% are born between June 1 and Dec 31. Not quite Malcolm Gladwell's team distribution but there's a reason we don't see many 2011 birthdates on these 2029 rosters.

In regards to the WS, True Chesapeake was a hybrid TC, Hawks and ML team. Several of Futures WS players did not attend the qualifier weekend. Not saying they would have definitely beat TC/Hawks/ML in the WS but it would be a mistake to assume that outcome.

You know who else is also unbeatable at the 2029 level? Almost every 2028 team! Yeh if you hold back it’s a huge advantage. Despicable that people do this. They are cheaters, karma has its own rules.

OMG, where the "reclass" complaint has sunk to: 1) some boy is a week or a month older than another, all perfectly within the age/grade requirements, and 2) another boy sometimes chooses to play UP and then sometimes chooses to play ON AGE. Wow, what a bunch of complaining jealous Karens.

Yes this is where is had gotten to. However I am not sure you realize that a player with a June 15, 2010 birthday is significantly stronger, bigger, and faster then a Player with a June16th birthday. There is a magical day where the "massive" change occurs for every boy. Poof "To my dear son, your day has come, and at midnight your body will magically transform and you will be 5'10, 165lbs, extremely handsome, and better then everyone else. Congratulations. Also make sure that you congratulate your friends because tonight it will be happening to them." LOL.

Was anyone at the Alliance tourney this weekend? Tourney Machine shows a Sweetlax FL v 3D Garden St final, but no winner.

3D Garden State won.

Right, we should stop classifying by year. We should classify by week, my kid is Week 34 2029! Now how to handle natural growth differences, perhaps a better suggestion: Welterweight 5'9" Class of 2029?

How did the weekend go for everyone? Anyone playing this weekend?

Rumor has it the Crabs are having a play day at cedar lane (harford co) with Leading Edge, Fusion Futures, and LI Express Chaney…guess we’ll know who is who after these 4 go at it.

Yes, that was our experience too. The prospect days definitely opened some doors, especially for our oldest.

The problem with Next Level is the coaching, they don't play to win and end of game clock management is terrible. More than a few parents are considering options.

There are issues virtually everywhere...

Hawks- Pittsburg kids don't have to practice yet get more playing time than legacy hawks kids of superior talent
True Chessy- enjoy your starting job until coach finds a better player in North Carolina or Georgia willing to fly in and take his spot (page out of crabs playbook)
Madlax- everything is kosher as long as you don't mind being a cog in a machine, the team keeps winning and CM doesn't decide to reclass his kid and destroy team cohesion. Oh, please ignore the families that have already left the toxicity.
True VA/VLC- massive step down in talent and competition.

Maybe DC Express could be an option. They aren't as competitive at the 29 age group yet but are growing and are an elite organization. By next year they will be a power.

So you don’t like that everyone is playing in the fall?

What happen to the new Fusion Futures Goalie? Heard he jumped ship cause he couldn't cut it and now is looking for a new home in the Maryland.

I don't think he ever joined fusion futures. His instagram profile says dc express but you are correct, I've heard he is sniffing around a certain miaa school where his personality would fit right in.

Discussion question- Best overall rec/club program in the area. Not looking for a team but there is so much focus on private clubs wondering the thoughts. Now that a lot of recs don’t field a team and many people have had experiences with them. Which rec programs for the youngest of players up provide good lacrosse? This is not an us vs them discussion question.

Rankings are updated fixing the Next Level fiasco. 5 MD teams in the top 20. Things will change as more national teams get to 6 games but it's great to see such an abundance of success for MD clubs.

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Legends (Lutherville), Gunpowder (Hereford) and Blue Claws (Bel Air) are established rec/club options. Pick one close to home.

Hoco and Carol Manor as well.

I think Carroll Manor 29 disbanded

Overall, I think Lutherville/legends have had a great history of developing players from a very young age. Harrison, Millon, Conrad, and many more went the through the program. As rec programs merge or fold lutherville stays strong. Good leadership at the helm. In relationship to this forum the 2029 legends team. Set a high bar for those treams to follow.

Well..... How did Crabs do in there play Date? Seem like it didn't go so good. We would of heard by now. IG is quiet.

0-3

Not just 0-3.... they lost those games by wide margins like 8-2, 10-3 and 9-3.

Lots of work to do by King Crab. Maybe a few more 28's would like to reclass.... Or maybe they will fly in some Florida and Texas kids to help out.

Bring back the Legends Coaching Staff..... Hahaha!

Wait. So teams with holdbacks don't automatically win?

Does FCA have a new website because I was looking up the current roster and coaches and it still has coaches from last season and I think the previous season. Anyone else know whats going on there?

Don’t think so

No new website. They just haven't updated the coaches and rosters for 2 years.

Drew Wardlow is now coaching the 2029 team.

LE, Futures, Express holdbacks > Crabs holdbacks

After observing our team against Crabs in the first game, I was most surprised by their lack of fundamentals. The team struggled with offensive schemes and exhibited limited ball movement, leading to frequent turnovers from forced passes and overly focused 1v1 play. Despite this, several players stood out and competed well against us, particularly their LSM (beast). The first-half goalie performed strongly, and their FOGO was competitive. While there were glimpses of offensive talent, the team lacked overall cohesion and follow through on multiple goal opportunities.

That said, the Crabs 2029 team seems to have the tools to improve. With more time and development, I anticipate they’ll give us a stronger challenge if we face them again in the spring or summer.

Unfortunately, for Maryland lacrosse, we haven’t had a truly solid test in quite some time.

There's basically never been a crabs 2029 team for more then a year. Same with Team 91 for the most part. As the "elite" teams push out or bench your kids for hold backs why stay.

Solid test? Hawks look to be the only decent 29 hoco team? Fusions has dominated every Maryland team. Philly stomps on MD

29 Hoco will be anyone’s to grab this year. Madlax and NL will be solid as usual as they just swap players back and forth. Dc express will have far shot, depends who they get this winter. Crabs connived the league to allow their “special” students, but haven’t played well yet. Hawks still lack a respectable offense but seemed to add size on defense, plus they are on their 3rd coach in 3 years. 91 and Predators found some talent somewhere and will probably find some more before spring.

Do you remember who was getting stomped on before you started your all star Philly team, tri state team or national team where the older boys stand out (see WS results).
If you were all from Philly it be one thing, but your not!

Fusion is about as "Philly" as a Philly Cheesesteak Egg Roll.

Most accurate statement in this thread. Should end on that note

lol. Apples and oranges. MD doesn’t have an all star regional team.