BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2031 - 6th grade (new) 2024-25 season

You guys played each other once last year. Don’t go popping top like you are on a six game run. That would be like saying here’s an interesting fyi, against chucks, prime time and all the Sweetlax teams the rebels were 3-6 overall last year and igloo was 10-0. It means nothing. You are both good teams and the comment you replied to is pretty accurate. The 31 class is very deep across the whole northeast and other areas of the country. Just enjoy it because it’s been shown that any of them can win on any weekend. The whole igloo/rebels squabbling is tiresome.

Rebels lack depth and have a sub-par defense. Maybe a small handful of their kids can play at the top level of this sport.

No chance this person has seen all these teams enough to rank them. Stick to the local teams that actually play each other and compete consistently.

What's the difference between LI Express Chucks and Express East? Both are AA on LI?

This by far I think the most accurate list and most complete. Well done. Agree all of these teams in top 10 could beat each other any given day.

Slim still upset his kid got cut! Get over it .

Eric Spallina should NEVER be allowed to coach another lax or hockey team and every family who has ever had a kid on one of his teams knows it. He does not care who he hurts or how the team performs—doesn’t even teach his own kid how to play the game properly.

Lol. Now thats funny.

A subpar defense that any other team would trade for in a heartbeat.

The question is can teams good in elementary school stay on the AA tier into HS. Usually players will switch because of recruiting. And the recruiting track record at the likes of S2S, Express, Igloo and 91 is tops on Long Island. These clubs seem to provide the best exposure and have the best relationships and that’s why they get the most kids playing on the next level, again my opinion.

Agreed. 91 CO is a pretty solid team and should be in top 10 for sure. I think someone left them out in initial guesses.

Express East is their money grab. Just like Rebels East, Legacy East and 91 Empire .

“Opinion.” The fact is that those clubs work on getting “good/talented” players to play on their team, usually by having a director or “good” coach-coach. “Good/talented” players who are committed are worth a shot at playing at the next level. So if this (my opinion) deep 2031 class at any club has 1. “Good/talented” committed players (that’s players who come to practice, train, work on their game) 2. Good committed coaches then they will be recruited. The “relationships” are had between any club and colleges IF THE KIDS ARE GOOD ENOUGH. My true opinion - make sure your kid is good/committed, their coach is good/committed, and prioritize their develop. If you’re switching clubs because 1-2-3 classes ahead of you at another club had committed kids, you’re dense. Because all teams in any club are not created equal.

That’s their new Riot team, they played against all C level teams this fall except for 2 Way Carolina (B team) and Warriors (top tier B) and lost to both. Not sure what to make of them yet.

Okay - first rankings are out - what is everyone's thoughts??

Spot on

S2S now that’s funny

Who won the fall lacrosse classic

This board is so entertaining while drinking coffee in the morning.

This guys rankings are a joke, applying inconsistent mathematical formulas, ignoring head to head match ups and overly reliant on a strength of schedule.

He was successful in one way, making fool lax parents (myself included) angry about 11/12 year old boys lax rankings.

Next Level is a worthy #1, won ALL this weekend, and no games were really close. Going back to the summer, they split with Towermen and lost to Igloo, tied and lost to Madlax last spring. Bad loss to Jersey express. Wouldn't be my number one, but has a resume that can support the ranking.

Igloo had a great fall until they fell to rival Rebels at NAL. This summer went 1-2 vs. Towermen, lost to 91 CO outlaws and madlax.

Rebels won saturday NAL, with fall losses to PrimeTime and Towermen. Over the summer 1-2 vs. Sweetlax Florida, losses to 2Way, PrimeTime and madlax.

Towermen with 3 fall losses, twice to Chucks and once to PrimeTime. Good win over Rebels. Big win at summer ALL championship, split with Next Level at Great 8. Lost to Igloo at Big Time.

Chucks with 4 fall losses, twice to rebels, sweetlax florida, and 91 CO Outlaws. I'' buy them as a top 15 team, top 5, not so sure yet.

Dukes lost to sweetlax florida (on the field, the fight during the game was a draw) and 91 CO Outlaws. Gets a ton of credit for win over Hawks (opp rating 94.43, which should have the Hawks at 14, but they are nowhere to be found in the rankings)

Sweetlax Florida has fall losses to 91 CO Outlaws, madlax, Next Level so far this fall, with a full day of games ahead. In the summer wins over madlax and stealth, losses to towermen and igloss with a tie against 2Way. Bad loss to S2S.

Orange Crush with 3 fall losses, Chucks, PrimeTime and Igloo. One win at NAL.

Madlax, hurt by games against Blue Claws, Hoco, and closer game against Predators. Won sunday NAL. Including spring/summer went 1-0-1 vs. Next Level, beat Igloo for NAL, beat Rebels 13-2, Chucks twice (12-3 & 11-4), split with sweetlax florida (won 9-4 in fall, lost 9-8 at NAL), defeated Orange Crush 14-2. At least he doesn't hold a grudge from the club nationals split.

91 CO Outlaws, two losses to rebels and madlax. Wins over Dukes, sweetlax florida, chucks.

These are just the inconsistencies from the top 10. Leaving out teams like Annapolis Hawks, Big 4 HHH Bird Dogs, Laxachusetts Black, West Coast Starz, Iron Horse Mongoose and Alcatraz Outlaws is laughable, (unless these teams disbanded). Crabs at 17 behind Louisville Kings Red and True Indiana Green...only 2 losses this fall to top 10 teams.

Titans beat the Jesters in the Final. Express East and Warriors were also 3-0, but did not advance based on Goals Against.

Be careful running to Express and 91 for recruiting. Ask the dads of older kids - many long-term local kids get pushed aside for out of state kids in the recruiting years. (“Won’t happen to my kid”…lol good luck with that).

Rebels wat is to just rebrand!

Anyone know Supreme Elite? Happen to catch some of their game against west coast stars.

91 cyclones. Their closest game was against wcs.

That is an in-depth analysis. You realize several teams are not in the rankings yet, because they haven’t played 5 games yet this fall.

Older Dad here and this is exactly right.

Wow. I think you’re missing a big piece. It calculates your goal differential and strength of opponent. Losing a 1 goal game to a top 5 team is actually a good thing for your rating. It’ll all be okay. Try to take a breath.

For the gentleman venting his frustration about the ratings, give it a week. Things could look a little different after some things update. A bunch of teams played more games this weekend. Teams like the Hawks, BirdDogs, 91 Titans, Shore 2 Shore, Express East, who hadn't played enough games yet, did not receive a ranking. You also can't really let outcomes from last summer factor in. This is a new season, updated rosters, etc. Click on last season's tab to compare last season's ratings.

Top 5:
Madlax Capital
Sweetlax Fl
Next Level
Igloo
Rebels

6-10:
Dukes Elite
Chucks
Sweetlax Upstate
Hawks
Towermen

Need a LI or NYS Club Cup Championship. Only 2 levels A and AA. 3 game bracket then single elimination based on seeding. Use the new US Club Lax birthday cutoff so it is at least kids playing against kids around their age. Do not let a current club team run the event. Perhaps a sponsor like STX or a big brand.