BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2028-8th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024

This is SO entertaining...love stories, kiss and make up, Venom/Express haters, Surge moms...this board has it all.
In the end, re-classes will do their thing, but those who don't and play at the correct age will know that they can (or can't) complete against high level kids at their age. or can they, but the ones they struggle against are re-classes from 27? Would love to see more concrete rules/policies in place, but it clearly doesn't matter enough.

To summarize from my previous post about showcases...is it the summer/fall of 10th grade that you start looking into these? Do the kids apply for it themselves, or do coaches nominate?

How about some props for the 8th grader playing Varsity! Must be a student or on steroids... lol

Ha! Probably from like North Carolina or somewhere like that! Can anyone give a recent example of a grade 8 playing varsity at school of note in Maryland, dc, Philly, NJ, NY, CT, MA. I would use the word unheard of but maybe somewhere a goalie has played in grade 8.

Aren’t the kids now in 9th. Why are we still under 8th and why are peope still referencing 8th graders.
That is soooo last year

John and little Johnnie, aka Joe Blogs.
My favorite post is the guy that tried to make a point by saying, I would rather my kid be like. Thats simply sad. My kid is a reclass and I am proud of him as a kid and not looking for him to be like anyone else.
Put an asterisk next to his name and his great school and education,. He has his bday on IL. Let your freak flag fly. I give a flying F about you fools calling us cheaters. It was all about the coaches calling on 9/1…..appropriate that the captcha phrase for this post has blank in caps in the middle of it.

Reclassed his kid for a 1/4 scholarship. Congrats you and your kid sold your souls for a 1/4 scholarship that any good student could get. No one will give him credit for athletic accomplishments he achieved by cheating. How do you say with a straight face what a hard working, go getter your kid is when he just reclassed? Laughable

Surge is now Triton. Rebels Chrome is name of the team, if they still have a team.

And there you have it. The post that sums up the absolute ignorance aka lack of knowledge that inundates this place. You, and the rest of the people calling BS on an actual 8th grader NOT holding back and playing varsity as an 8th grader shows just how little you know. These aren’t sideline pull ups for playoffs either.

Garden city
Swr
EI
WI
Harborfields
BPBP
Wantagh
ESM
I have zero urge to look up the couple I know I forgot. And even less urge to research the few that I never knew about.

All had 8th graders playing varsity in the last 2 years. Not sitting on sidelines. Not just participating in practices. Actually playing. And despite the persons opinion that posted on here a few posts back, none of them took steroids.
You’ll probably reply that these aren’t schools of note. Very typical. The fact is the two best high school teams on Long Island are the two main Catholics by a mile. No 8th grader is going to play on those two teams. Of the teams I mentioned, a few were in playoffs. And a few made it pretty far. You’re clueless.

Question is why do express players love to leave for 91??

Free tuition

why do express players leave? because CoachC is a word that will get switched to Chillaxin

sorry, but dads who sign off with hashtags should be blocked...put down the popped collar, lost.

Now back to some lacrosse talk. Express North came out to the island and had a combine practice/scrimmage vs Express LI. Both teams played hard and got better, this is what lax is all about. Letting kids play a sport and have fun. All this other non sense is fool!

Express send out an email before to let the players know who gets to play in the scrimmage?

I was thinking the same thing

Lipstick on a pig

Those teams were pretty bad and you can lose almost all your games and you still make playoffs lol

Ok clown. Compared to who?
Name 5 teams on Long Island better than BPBP, wantagh, east islip, and garden city.
fool

Public school Dad is mad but it’s true you don’t need to be that great to start at most public schools as an underclassman or for your team to make the playoffs. Many teams are not good so better teams can easily beat most of their competition. Many of the teams listed above didn’t even have great records last year playing subpar competition. It is not the Catholic League.

For the 2024 season I’ll take SS over all of them.

Look at the top freshman commits to the top ten D1 schools. I think you will see most are holdbacks at some point!? Extra year or two of development does give those guys an edge. Especially starting in middle school or younger as a holdback. It’s an elitist sport
And favors those that can play the extra year(s) of development card! They get recruited and the college coaches could care less about it and just want to win!

I don’t like it, but it is facts in this sport. Others too, like hockey. Biggest problem for me is it’s not fair to those who can’t afford to play by those rules and get extra years! It favors the deep pockets and it gives those kids extra advantages in the sport. Life is a different story! We are talking about recruiting and playing lacrosse at a top D1 program.

Top D1 program? You're talking to a few dozen kids a year. That covo likely doesnt apply to anyone posting here. The huge majority of kids are going to mid and bad D1 schools and D2s/D3s. Still quite the accomplishment. It's still really good lacrosse.

The good news to worried parents- your drinking buddies at the country club don't really know what they are talking about and have already missed the boat. Recruiting just ain't like it used to be, even 10 years ago.

Those Top D1 spots just ain't available like they used to be. The smart kids are the ones who take the recruiting spots they are offered at any level, and then hit the portal after getting some college film. It's now quite common for kids to transfer from low D1 and top 20 D3 schools to very good D1 programs. Happens a lot, in fact.

You are correct. Rich people are ruining the sport. If their kids need to reclass now imagine if the game becomes more diverse, their kid could never compete.

Comical

False. Clearly your kid ain’t on the team.

I think that is a blanket statement, but there is some truth generalization to the statement. The Prep Schools and Catholic schools in US put out the majority of top players in D1. Yes there are many public school kids there to, but the higher % goes to Privates. And it usually takes money to go to the private schools. Sorta like the NFL, of course there are some good top white guys playing, but the best and higher percentage is Black. Keep it real as Chappell says

They just need to finally change the rules at the youth levels to age based (like hockey) and stop the rewarding of the holding back!

There is a tournament this weekend with 2 Way, Express North, Red Hots, Leading Edge, Mad Dog and BTB. I think there will be an abundant number of holdbacks on those fields. There will obviously be kids on age but some of these teams have many kids that should be 2027s. BTB is new I believe and will have their hands full.

BTB has no business being in with those teams.

No need to mention race. This is an economic and geographic issue. Look at youth participation rates for soccer and football. People flee the Northeast’s high taxes but don't realize most publics outside of the NE do not have public school lax. Meanwhile kids on LI have been playing for over 75 years.

At least they are trying

Troll commenting on his own post.

Someone didn’t do their homework lol
What I don’t understand is when they see what other teams they are facing why doesn’t the Director make a judgment call?

So you agree with him then.

I guess you can run with your tail between your legs or you can stick it out and battle. So kudos to BTB for deciding to play next level competition!

Wishing all of the lacrosse community down in Florida safety from the hurricane which is causing so much destruction. So many clubs have teams in Florida and so many folks up north here have family and friends down there too.

We have heard that college coaches like the holdbacks as they are physically mature already. Is that the consensus or are there college coaches that want the real on age kids knowing they have a higher ceiling? Anyone have any experience or inside info about this?

SS will not have as good of a year this years as they did last year.

Why wouldn’t they? They are returning many of the same players!

Without last years fogo they will have trouble