BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2028-8th Grade Fall 2023/Summer 2024

[quote=Anonymous]GSB lax-good program? Don't know anything about them, but looking elsewhere for next season. Thanks.[/quotE

gsb is a pretty new program. they have a 2025 and 2028 team. 2028 white is better than 2028 blue. a good b team

[quote=Anonymous]GSB lax-good program? Don't know anything about them, but looking elsewhere for next season. Thanks.[/quotE

gsb is a pretty new program. they have a 2025 and 2028 team. 2028 white is better than 2028 blue. a good b team

GSB white team is good. Their blue team not so much. Have been hearing that GSB is looking for players to finish out the year with their blue team because they don't have enough players.

How much time do you have?

This is such a hilarious attempted troll job. Oh, you just happened to be sitting by two moms talking about express having a black and orange team???? Oh the drama. The dead giveaway was the “what’s this reclassing business about”. Yeah, you showed up to this message hoard to ask that question.

Listen Venom dad. You got pasted. Deal with it.

Effing disgraceful organization

Problem with Venom is that they are small !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love the confidence! But you’re wrong. I have a 28 player, different program. Not a lax guy, new to the thread, still learning the lingo (hoco, reclass). My wife was the lax parent but after she passed it fell to me. Just trying to find out/learn about the different programs available as he would like to play for a better program next year. All I know is that these 2 moms had a lot of complaints.

Can’t be a Venom Dad. Multiple Venom players have decided to reclass. I guess 91 spreading out to MD and other reclass hotbeds making the LI parents a bit nervous of falling behind. 2029 class wasn’t particularly strong but will be now.

LI Lax Showcase had multiple 91 coaches as well as Express. Many deserving kids cut that play on the wrong teams in favor of the top 2 clubs lesser AA to B team
players. Don’t be surprised if the future money stops flowing in as the LI showcase/Excelsior Games have become so political. My kid was not there. You know who the players are from watching them for years and some of the cuts and the kids that made it are shocking. If you want to take people’s money the coaches should be Independent of the clubs.

Problem with Express is they have 47 players and only the catholic bound school kids play. Venom/Express will be a good matchup for years to come.

Can we all agree it is time for new ranking system? US Club Lacrosse is terrible. Their ranks are dead wrong. Do they get paid by clubs to post wrong ranks?

It’s sounds like the surge coach had the strong say with the Suffolk team, having a travel coach in the age group in that position can only lead to favoritism. Kids from the top teams were cut and kids from b teams were accepted

Some of the kids that made the final roster, should not have even made the final 50

Can they all start ranking National teams in their own category as well. They lose credibility to me when they rank National teams along with local clubs.

Why so bent out of shape a lot of the top kids didn’t even show up for this.

It’s sounds like the surge coach had the strong say with the Suffolk team, having a travel coach in the age group in that position can only lead to favoritism. Kids from the top teams were cut and kids from b teams were accepted

Surge is not a b team if that's what you're referring to.

Yeah seems like they take club payouts with tournies and such? Those ranks are meaningless.

why does 8th grade rankings mean so much to you? who cares

Surge coach cut his own players! You guys are absurd.

Why? They both @ChillLaxin

Ouch Mamba. Not exactly in the third spot. Beat down from a glorified B team

He should.why does he even get to decide? Corrupt.

Couple years ago thought by 7th 8th grade teams would be settled for the most part. But this year it seems there will be plenty of movement as parents try to find a better fit for their kids. Long Island is so watered down sad to watch. Now let’s see how the reclassing changes the landscape.

True not many top players which was surprising.

But I noticed so many Rush coaches and players. And Legacy had a lot of players as well. Literally felt like tryout for the merge lol

Unfortunately politics ALWAYS factor in and it showed

Do the rebels actually have 3 teams? They had small roster with about 3 subs from what I could tell at the summer showdown.

The Nassau team is very venom heavy.
The Suffolk is legacy surge rush plus a few igloo express venom and s2s.
Idk who made it but that’s what was at the tryouts

So Suffolk will lose big.

Prediction: Rebels Black become Rebels No One Wants To Play For next season. I can’t see anyone coming back from this mess. Hopefully the kids find a better team.

Suffolk is all Surge, a few venom and legacy. thanks evaluators(91 coaches) for a fun and fair showcase. Not!!

I think people have realized for 8th grade it’s a meaningless money grab.

First off Rebels are horrendous, not worthy of a post.

Second, Surge Coach is the Suffolk coach but he cut players from Surge and from his Hills program. So if people think it’s rigged it’s merely sour grapes.

Third, Nassau will win by 9 so it’s really not a big deal.

Fourth, this is 8th grade, nobody cares!

I’ll agree with the last part, 8th grade no one cares.

All those Rebels kids are playing serious minutes. You can’t say that for everyone on any other team except the reclasses on LIE and the Coaches’ kids on Venmo. Maximizing your kids reps is the only thing that matters at this age.

Please tell me this is a troll attempt, I feel bad for the parents and kids that were duped AGAIN by the rebels trying to field a AA team, 3 teams in an age group and they have 14 kids on their AA team 2 weeks in a row. They lost to frost this week and get beaten bad in their other games.

There are so many stories from rebels parents about unfulfilled promises, it’s good to see karma getting back at them, long story short, if you’re kid is looking to play AA next year go anywhere else

unfilled promises? Did they promise you a scholarship?

They offered my son a scholarship but we declined, we avoided that shipwreck

Rebels run a good organization. This group fell apart when Smithtown West varsity coach left. They had a solid team last year that could at least compete but many of their starters went to Venom, Express and Legacy. There has to be something up if they only have 13/14 kids at a tournament in an age group that they field 3 teams. We played them again this weekend and there is only a handful of kids that can play at the higher levels. They do have a legit goalie but he did not play against us. Coaches and organization can only do so much if the kids and parents dont commit. I do feel bad for the kids they had out there.

I am a parent on that team too and it hasn't been a very fun year. Losing our better players really hurt us. We're looking into other clubs for next season. I think the best options besides Venom and Chucks, are Legacy, which will be a struggle for field time since their merging with Rush, S2S, and Surge. BTB took a step back and I'm not sure what to make of igloo. Any insight would be very helpful. thank you in advance

No starters went to legacy but other than that good take.

I’ll give you the best insight I can as I have friends who have kids on most teams.

The first thing is going to be an incoming of out of state and holdbacks to 91 and Express for HS

I’ll do them in my anticipated power ratings for next year

Express - they’ll be the top draw for the chucks black team but buyer beware, confirm how many are accepted onto the team so they don’t pull the same shenanigans as last year, welcome you’re invited to the chucks, you and 70 others, I had friends invited to the “chucks” that couldn’t make any other aa teams and it made more sense when the truth came out

91 Venom - it will be interesting to the see the movement between 91 and express this year, either way they’ll be a top squad

Legrush AA - top legacy and rush kids with many others coming to try out, it should be a top team

S2s - seems to be struggling lately

91 Surge - good core players, but will struggle vs top teams

Igloo Northmen - seems to have been doing better lately, very large roster

Legrush A - if they can retain most with some new faces they should be competitive, just not be top teams

Btb- has also been struggling lately, but I know they’re looking for some upgrades , they’ll put lots of work in

Gsb - some talented kids, lots of training

Igloo frost - tons of work put into this team

True Blue - some talented kids, can they draw some new kids and retain the better kids?

ECE - decent squad for south Suffolk

Rebels - sinking ship in aa 2028

True Long Island - a simple google search will tell you how terrible this company is, avoid at all costs