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Pretty much that in a different order. Kid suspended BECAUSE ML Dad came at refs on the field during and after game.

Father of the year! Also not surprised was a ML dad. They are special

Why? What made a parent angry enough to storm the field twice?

Surprised we haven't seen an email from the league. Hope the mom has defensive skills.

Didn’t like Junior getting flagged for a retaliation penalty. Fun family, kid will do well in life with such a positive male role model.

This is the second meeting between these two and the second lopsided win for the Preds.

Mistake #1- Trying to take down America's Team.

In case you forgot- Preds on top!!

The Dad actually went onto the field to argue a call?

Aggressively! Was apparently thrown out but eventually they had to restart the clock waiting for him to stop embarrassing himself and make his exit.
No embarrassment for this guy tho. Came right back after game ended. That’s when they suspended his kid for two games.

Enjoy public school. NO private school wants that kind of parent on their sideline

No school, public or private, WANTS a parent like that on the sideline. But all schools have them unfortunately.

Open letter to the parent who was ejected from the 2033 stands today, Mothers Day, for not shutting his mouth toward the official,

Your son is in the 2nd grade. You embarrassed yourself, your son’s coaches(who had to walk across the field to get you to listen to the officials when they asked you to leave the field), and the parents sitting around you. Most importantly, you embarrassed your son. What a fine example of control you showed today because you didn’t like the calls IN A 2ND GRADE GAME. You may think it’s no big deal, but I can promise you your son will never forget it. He has many years ahead of him in club lacrosse. Your behavior at this age is a concern. You will only get worse as your son gets older, and in the end, it’s going to hurt him the most. Get a grip now, for his sake.

Signed,
Someone who was embarrassed for your family.

Is Howard county league adopting the age rules?

If they were smart, they should rule on this now, before summer tryouts.

It’s not their league. The teams make the rules.

So CLASS BASED AGAIN.

It will be age based.

When are try outs. And if it’s age what age range.

Tryouts are in July mostly.
Age chart posted on USLacrose website

You’ll have to ask your club those questions.

The teams might agree to have an age based division starting with the very youngest division next near. The B teams of all the clubs are essentially age-based anyway so maybe a few brave clubs will have one class based team and another age based.

It says on Howard website it’s class

Does anyone know if HOCO is going to allow 1 or 2 exemptions in the spring?

Looks like the Circuit is going to allow two exemptions, but have to be born in a specific year.

Looks like WSYL is going the other direction: All players must be born on or after 9/1/2010

Some tournaments are following age verification....some appear to be not or are waiting to be forced to?

Can't we just have one standardize set for everything!

Ricky will do whatever the Elite level club directors tell him to do. They run the show, not HOCO rec and parks.

HCLC SPRING 2024 - AGE/GRADE GUIDELINES
Please Note: There will be NO waivers or exceptions of any kind to the Age/Grade Guidelines. Thank you for your compliance.


2028

Age Requirement: No Player born before June 1, 2008 may participate in 2028

Grade Requirement: Player MUST be in 8th grade or below (2029, 2030, etc.)

2029

Age Requirement: No player born before June 1, 2010 may participate in 2029

Grade Requirement: Players in 7th grade MUST participate in the 2029 grade designation or above (2028) pending age requirement

*Players born before June 1, 2010 in 7th grade must participate in the 2028 grade designation.

2030

Age Requirement: No player born before June 1, 2011 may participate in 2030

Players in 6th grade MUST participate in the 2030 grade designation or above (2029, 2028).

*Players born before June 1, 2011 in 6th grade must participate in the 2029 (7th grade) or older grade designation.

2031

Age Requirement: No player born before June 1, 2012 may participate in 2031

Players in 5th grade MUST participate in the 2031 grade designation or above (2030, 2029, etc.) pending age requirement.

*Players born before June 1, 2012 in 5th grade must participate in the 2030 (6th grade) or older grade designation.

2032

Age Requirement: No player born before June 1, 2013 may participate in 2032

Players in 4th grade MUST participate in the 2032 grade designation or above (2031, 2030, etc.)

*Players born before June 1, 2013 in 4th grade must participate in the 2031 (5th grade) or older grade designation.

2033

Age Requirement: No player born before June 1, 2014 may participate in the 2033 divisions

Players in 3rd grade MUST participate in the 2033 grade designation or above (2032, 2031, etc.)

*Players born before June 1, 2014 in 3rd grade must participate in the 2032 (4th grade) or older grade designation.

2034

Age Requirement: No player born before June 1, 2015 may participate in the 2034 division

Players in 2nd grade MUST participate in the 2034 grade designation or above (2033, 2032, etc.)

*Players born before June 1, 2015 in 2nd grade must participate in the 2033 (3rd grade) or older grade designation.

Lol please tell me this is true, can't wait for the panicked reactions from double holdback fams

Enough was enough. The Circuit and WSL proved participation wouldn’t drop and the blatant cheating by most of the national and regional all star teams pushed it over the edge.

So Holdbacks allowed?? Just not older Holdbacks,,, Why not forget grades and let it be June 1 age for everyone?? No that wont work as privates schools wont get their summer prefirst holdbacks in......

HOCO holds the highest shame honor for being the first league in country to go grade based. Their director at time had a holdback in St Pauls and make the entire HOCO league grade based at start, even tho every league in Howard County was age based at time. Satrted the flood and Crabs and rest went with it.

Essentially, they did eliminate grades. They didn’t need to mention grades of any sort. They could have gone with u13, u12 …

What type of age verification system are they going to use? They basically have been using the "honor system" in the past for rosters and if a coach suspected something they had to make a challenge with the ref and league after the game, pay a $50 roster check fee. The whole process is a joke. If all of the coaches were provided with the full rosters including all the names, numbers and DOB (month/year) before each game it would really help to crack down on the shenanigans, but doubt that would ever happen.

They should just post the rosters for each team on the app or website. Even better to include picture of each kid but I suppose that would take too much effort.

You guys do realize that you're talking about elementary and middle-school kids right?

It’s sarcasm

If it stopped teams from using unrostered players I would be all for this. I don’t care what age they are, people are sick and tired of watching others bend the rules and then having to jump through hoops to prove or challenge it. It’s a shame that’s what youth athletics has come to but with todays technology this isn’t even hard to implement. The coaches have to have visible badges to be on the field, why stop there? The only people against things like this are those who like to take advantage of the loose enforcement on rosters that currently exists.

US Lacrosse has an age verification system that is going to be used as part of registration.

Its very easy. You just upload a picture and identification document to the website and then it verifies it's authenticity and you are good to go.

Now each of the HoCo game sites will have a "binder" available in the press box on gameday.

What’s your definition? The 2027 elite division had 6+ players born in spring/Summer of 2007; and a large number of players born in fall of 2007; and a huge chunk born before June 1 2008. For you rising 8th graders, that equates to 2008 and early 2009 birth dates. Rosters will be dramatically different.

This is how age verification is done for soccer and hockey so whatever the governing body is for this has two systems to copy.

Well, Spring 2024 Hoco is starting back up, interesting topics?
1. Age verification - done. What impact will it have one teams?
2. Holdbacks. Everyone does it, who cares?
3. Changes to clubs? New teams, missing teams?
4. Coaching changes?
5. Rule changes and impact?
6. Age groups moving up or down?
7. More prestigious to win at AAA or AA or to have even record at Elite?
8. Others?

Let the [Censored] talk begin!

Holdbacks, No more.... Nothing to talk about. Level playing field!

You don't think it's reasonable that to challenge your True MD opponent's 5 6'3" players with luggage tags on their sticks, for a roster check, that you have to point a sun dial into the setting sun of Troy Park, within 174 seconds of the beginning of the 3rd faceoff in the 1st quarter, and pay the lead referee an offering of 24 blood-stained Turkish gold dubloons and speak the magic prayer of the Ricky Dubois Honorific Masonic Temple, hoping that the dark portal of the transdimensional abyss doesn't open up?

I think it's perfectly reasonable (kidding) but the enormous hassle of challenging rosters/games is absolutely 100% why in 7+ years of watching Hoco ball, I have witnessed an entire ONE roster check (resulted in 5 out of state, unrostered True players being removed from the field).

And on top of this, yeah I do find it funny that the Crabs, VLC, and ML coaches seem to be the only ones allowed to "postpone" their games in this league. Out of 30+ clubs, everybody else's requests are denied (and True has tried very, very hard to get into the short list of clubs with special privileges). The blatant preferential treatment, I guess, is a holdover from Ricky's predecessor.

Anybody know if the rumor is true that a red hots are entering a team in 2028 elite?