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Loyola class is deeper. And this is coming from a BL parent.

Loyola is a mess with talent and playing time. Not sure if that ship can be righted with the parents

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All this JC talk is great. Can JC get its act together and keep most of the above average talent in Harford county? If they do, they can become respectable, and then the top talent will stay. They link up with a club (not much to choose from) and could turn it all around. The drive time will only be getting longer and longer into Baltimore county.

We love the JC talk down here in AA Co.

They are doing a good job recruiting. All the Baltimore programs are getting squeezed for kids. It's not a coincidence that so many of them are resorting to out of state kids now that the good kids are staying at JC


JC folks like to simultaneously argue that the Harford County kids don't have the skills to make an impact at the "Big Schools" .... I think the usual quote is "they get lost on the bench." As if the boys have no role in that outcome whatsoever, they're just not that good and it's "decided" somehow?

AND (again, simultaneously....)

Keeping those same kids local at JC is going to transform those non-impact players into kids who can beat the "Big Schools." Logically, both of those things can't be true, at least most of the time.

To that point, I know the BOTC rallying cry is "But Pat Spencer" in terms of coaching/zero-to-hero/player development and senior year impact (and it's an OK example and a GREAT story), but also remember that Pat Spencer held back a year at St Marys (pre-K or K) and held back another year at BL (8th) so he was not a spring chicken in his senior year. Dude was seriously ready.

Spencer was a Double Holdback then . Did not know that. I expected him to be a holdback like most of starters at BL, but not a Double.

I remember the year I told someone BL was undefeated and a great High School team. He looked at me with sarcasm and said, they should be, they are all college freshman.
Many starting Seniors @ BL are College Freshman/Sophomores?

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NE West includes Post Grad schools.

There is a reason they play "intersectional independents" like Army and Navy prep.

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Loyola class is deeper. And this is coming from a BL parent.

Loyola is a mess with talent and playing time. Not sure if that ship can be righted with the parents

LB will be a top four team again in the Spring. Not sure if they have enough to beat BL or MCD but they are back in the hunt. These new coaches fit much better into the historical culture on Chestnut Avenue. I'm looking forward to watching them "coach the boys up".

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All this JC talk is great. Can JC get its act together and keep most of the above average talent in Harford county? If they do, they can become respectable, and then the top talent will stay. They link up with a club (not much to choose from) and could turn it all around. The drive time will only be getting longer and longer into Baltimore county.

We love the JC talk down here in AA Co.

They are doing a good job recruiting. All the Baltimore programs are getting squeezed for kids. It's not a coincidence that so many of them are resorting to out of state kids now that the good kids are staying at JC


JC folks like to simultaneously argue that the Harford County kids don't have the skills to make an impact at the "Big Schools" .... I think the usual quote is "they get lost on the bench." As if the boys have no role in that outcome whatsoever, they're just not that good and it's "decided" somehow?

AND (again, simultaneously....)

Keeping those same kids local at JC is going to transform those non-impact players into kids who can beat the "Big Schools." Logically, both of those things can't be true, at least most of the time.

To that point, I know the BOTC rallying cry is "But Pat Spencer" in terms of coaching/zero-to-hero/player development and senior year impact (and it's an OK example and a GREAT story), but also remember that Pat Spencer held back a year at St Marys (pre-K or K) and held back another year at BL (8th) so he was not a spring chicken in his senior year. Dude was seriously ready.

Spencer was a Double Holdback then . Did not know that. I expected him to be a holdback like most of starters at BL, but not a Double.

I remember the year I told someone BL was undefeated and a great High School team. He looked at me with sarcasm and said, they should be, they are all college freshman.
Many starting Seniors @ BL are College Freshman/Sophomores?

The same age as college freshman/sophomores. Would would have thought being a double holdback has its advantages.

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NE West includes Post Grad schools.

There is a reason they play "intersectional independents" like Army and Navy prep.

That is a slipperly slope to go down. MIAA is loaded with holdbacks and some claim ( against rules) a few double holdbacks. And a PG that isnt held back is the same age as a holdback at MIAA schools. Of course a PG heldback should be a Soph in college.

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NE West includes Post Grad schools.

There is a reason they play "intersectional independents" like Army and Navy prep.

That is a slipperly slope to go down. MIAA is loaded with holdbacks and some claim ( against rules) a few double holdbacks. And a PG that isnt held back is the same age as a holdback at MIAA schools. Of course a PG heldback should be a Soph in college.

NE West has just as many holdbacks as the MIAA. It's rampant in prep lacrosse.

And then those holdbacks can prep.

The only difference is the NE schools admit they are double holdbacks.

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As a parent of on age college players, no one cares about holdbacks in college. The quicker you get over it now, the more enjoyable the rest of your high school years will be watching your kid play.

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There is a reason Loyola Blakefield has a new coach.

Loyola has had the best talent (on paper) in the league for the past few years.

So they have never lived up to (parent) expectations.

Every year, as soon as they lose a game or two, they begin to back bite and undermine the staff. Might be the worst group of parents in the league.

Good luck to Haus.

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How did St Mary’s let pat spencer get away? Coaches can’t judge talent? How can kids get a fair tryout then?

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There is a reason Loyola Blakefield has a new coach.

Loyola has had the best talent (on paper) in the league for the past few years.

So they have never lived up to (parent) expectations.

Every year, as soon as they lose a game or two, they begin to back bite and undermine the staff. Might be the worst group of parents in the league.

Good luck to Haus.

LB has definitely underachieved but in NO way have had the best talent in the league on paper. 4th at best, behind CH. McD & BL.

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There is a reason Loyola Blakefield has a new coach.

Loyola has had the best talent (on paper) in the league for the past few years.

So they have never lived up to (parent) expectations.

Every year, as soon as they lose a game or two, they begin to back bite and undermine the staff. Might be the worst group of parents in the league.

Good luck to Haus.

LB has definitely underachieved but in NO way have had the best talent in the league on paper. 4th at best, behind CH. McD & BL.

With that defense they have had for the past 4 years, they should have won it all at least once.

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Who will get more recruits, Drenner at Gerstell or Waldt at JC?

Interesting.

Didn't Gerstell have JG JR there last year? Where did he go?

They could get some of those Westminster kids. Like JC, not really competing for Baltimore kids, per se. But some decent local kids to help build a program and that could perhaps eat into the Owings Mills, Cockeysville market if they ever jumped to the A.

My forecast for the league is ... more boarding students!

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Who will get more recruits, Drenner at Gerstell or Waldt at JC?

Interesting.

Didn't Gerstell have JG JR there last year? Where did he go?

They could get some of those Westminster kids. Like JC, not really competing for Baltimore kids, per se. But some decent local kids to help build a program and that could perhaps eat into the Owings Mills, Cockeysville market if they ever jumped to the A.

My forecast for the league is ... more boarding students!
Grant Jr left after one season.

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How did St Mary’s let pat spencer get away? Coaches can’t judge talent? How can kids get a fair tryout then?

If I had to guess, I'd guess that St. Marys said, hey this kid is already a year older than some, and he's excelling academically and athletically and his peers think of him as a leader so there is zero justification to have him repeat ANOTHER year and be 2 years older than his grad age peers. Then Dad got mad and had him transfer and repeat 8th grade.

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As a parent of on age college players, no one cares about holdbacks in college. The quicker you get over it now, the more enjoyable the rest of your high school years will be watching your kid play.

This is a high school forum where holdbacks matter.

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There is a reason Loyola Blakefield has a new coach.

Loyola has had the best talent (on paper) in the league for the past few years.

So they have never lived up to (parent) expectations.

Every year, as soon as they lose a game or two, they begin to back bite and undermine the staff. Might be the worst group of parents in the league.

Good luck to Haus.

LB has definitely underachieved but in NO way have had the best talent in the league on paper. 4th at best, behind CH. McD & BL.

With that defense they have had for the past 4 years, they should have won it all at least once.

The LB parents on the whole are fine. Coaching matters. So does playing favorites. LB has played them on the offensive end for too long now. FCA kids, coach HS teammate, daddy on staff. Poor coaching and bad personnel decisions have doomed this program. As a parent from another A school the last thing I wanted was a new coach there.

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The offense will be scripted for daddy ball for sure.

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The offense will be scripted for daddy ball for sure.

“Daddy ball” = my son [Censored] so I’ll blame the coaches. Tell your kid to practice.

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“Daddy ball” = my son [Censored] so I’ll blame the coaches. Tell your kid to practice.
Ok dad coach, that’s what is. Most of the rest of us live for the day when an offense doesn’t go through a coach’s kid.

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JC NEVER will compete in the A conference even if every kid from Harford county went there. They should drop to B conference like Gilman.

Now let’s talk about BL and how all heck will break out when their top ranked player realizes he’s no good and the coaches get their act together and bench him once and for all. He kills the team every time he touches the ball. Takes the wind completely out of everything.

Sorry your kid couldn’t cut it. That’s a lot of money for a low education but good lacrosse, to ride the pine. He will get the same swag as the rest, don’t worry.

Yeah, sorry your kid got cut and rides the pine. HaHaHa… what a great comeback insult, especially the swag part!

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Who will get more recruits, Drenner at Gerstell or Waldt at JC?

Interesting.

Didn't Gerstell have JG JR there last year? Where did he go?

They could get some of those Westminster kids. Like JC, not really competing for Baltimore kids, per se. But some decent local kids to help build a program and that could perhaps eat into the Owings Mills, Cockeysville market if they ever jumped to the A.

My forecast for the league is ... more boarding students!
Grant Jr left after one season.

Guy is all over the place.

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There is a reason Loyola Blakefield has a new coach.

Loyola has had the best talent (on paper) in the league for the past few years.

So they have never lived up to (parent) expectations.

Every year, as soon as they lose a game or two, they begin to back bite and undermine the staff. Might be the worst group of parents in the league.

Good luck to Haus.

LB has definitely underachieved but in NO way have had the best talent in the league on paper. 4th at best, behind CH. McD & BL.

With that defense they have had for the past 4 years, they should have won it all at least once.

The LB parents on the whole are fine. Coaching matters. So does playing favorites. LB has played them on the offensive end for too long now. FCA kids, coach HS teammate, daddy on staff. Poor coaching and bad personnel decisions have doomed this program. As a parent from another A school the last thing I wanted was a new coach there.

Agree, LB has been a great school to play last few years. The talent out on field many times wasnt the best talent on team. Everyone knew why. Now that a few former starters have made their way to college, on the bench these starters go. Maybe new coach will change that, lets hope not, always good beating a team that is supposed to be so highly ranked at beginning of season.

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As a parent of on age college players, no one cares about holdbacks in college. The quicker you get over it now, the more enjoyable the rest of your high school years will be watching your kid play.

Sure you are. Nothing like a holdback to justify being a holdback. It doesnt matter is the rallying cry. It actually is an advantage. Frankly if you intend to play or attempt to play in D1, you would be foolish not to hold your son back for whatever advantage it gives him.

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JC NEVER will compete in the A conference even if every kid from Harford county went there. They should drop to B conference like Gilman.

Now let’s talk about BL and how all heck will break out when their top ranked player realizes he’s no good and the coaches get their act together and bench him once and for all. He kills the team every time he touches the ball. Takes the wind completely out of everything.

Sorry your kid couldn’t cut it. That’s a lot of money for a low education but good lacrosse, to ride the pine. He will get the same swag as the rest, don’t worry.

Yeah, sorry your kid got cut and rides the pine. HaHaHa… what a great comeback insult, especially the swag part!

Without swag, where we be in this sport ??

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I agree that every team in the conference was upset when Loyola got rid of the old coach. He is a talented coach, but was constantly having to deal with parental BS. I think Loyola needed a breath of fresh air in the building to clear some of that out. Hearing the AD was made aware of that situation immediately upon being hired and it was a priority to correct. I think he got it right with Haus. Give him time to cook. His network of connections between him and his family are great, and he's used to navigating a politics-heavy team. I could see them returning to the final 4 this year and pushing to win it all. Overlook them at your own peril.

I think people may be on to something with JC too. They have only had a handful of good wins in conference. How they beat CH, I don't know. But they definitely effected other teams recruiting strategy in the conference. Less kids are leaving Harford County. I could see a spike in interest with Gunnar taking over. He's a young, positive guy. And the opportunities to play there are pretty good. A friend said the President wants to make JC a "premier lacrosse destination" in conference. That might be talk. But he did it with basketball, baseball and soccer, so you never know. Another team to watch this year.

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JC NEVER will compete in the A conference even if every kid from Harford county went there. They should drop to B conference like Gilman.

Now let’s talk about BL and how all heck will break out when their top ranked player realizes he’s no good and the coaches get their act together and bench him once and for all. He kills the team every time he touches the ball. Takes the wind completely out of everything.

Sorry your kid couldn’t cut it. That’s a lot of money for a low education but good lacrosse, to ride the pine. He will get the same swag as the rest, don’t worry.

Yeah, sorry your kid got cut and rides the pine. HaHaHa… what a great comeback insult, especially the swag part!

Apparently reading comprehension isn’t available at BL.

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I agree that every team in the conference was upset when Loyola got rid of the old coach. He is a talented coach, but was constantly having to deal with parental BS. I think Loyola needed a breath of fresh air in the building to clear some of that out. Hearing the AD was made aware of that situation immediately upon being hired and it was a priority to correct. I think he got it right with Haus. Give him time to cook. His network of connections between him and his family are great, and he's used to navigating a politics-heavy team. I could see them returning to the final 4 this year and pushing to win it all. Overlook them at your own peril.

I think people may be on to something with JC too. They have only had a handful of good wins in conference. How they beat CH, I don't know. But they definitely effected other teams recruiting strategy in the conference. Less kids are leaving Harford County. I could see a spike in interest with Gunnar taking over. He's a young, positive guy. And the opportunities to play there are pretty good. A friend said the President wants to make JC a "premier lacrosse destination" in conference. That might be talk. But he did it with basketball, baseball and soccer, so you never know. Another team to watch this year.

Every parent so far is happy and excited for what Gunnar is going to bring to the team. That said, the JC president is a dipsh t.

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Bernhardt back at Maryland where he belongs. The OG reclass is back!

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Dipsh-t is being too friendly with that little guy. He is insufferable.

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JC NEVER will compete in the A conference even if every kid from Harford county went there. They should drop to B conference like Gilman.

Now let’s talk about BL and how all heck will break out when their top ranked player realizes he’s no good and the coaches get their act together and bench him once and for all. He kills the team every time he touches the ball. Takes the wind completely out of everything.

Sorry your kid couldn’t cut it. That’s a lot of money for a low education but good lacrosse, to ride the pine. He will get the same swag as the rest, don’t worry.

Yeah, sorry your kid got cut and rides the pine. HaHaHa… what a great comeback insult, especially the swag part!

Apparently reading comprehension isn’t available at BL.

Please keep education and BL out of same sentence. Not fair

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All this JC talk is great. Can JC get its act together and keep most of the above average talent in Harford county? If they do, they can become respectable, and then the top talent will stay. They link up with a club (not much to choose from) and could turn it all around. The drive time will only be getting longer and longer into Baltimore county.

We love the JC talk down here in AA Co.

They are doing a good job recruiting. All the Baltimore programs are getting squeezed for kids. It's not a coincidence that so many of them are resorting to out of state kids now that the good kids are staying at JC


JC folks like to simultaneously argue that the Harford County kids don't have the skills to make an impact at the "Big Schools" .... I think the usual quote is "they get lost on the bench." As if the boys have no role in that outcome whatsoever, they're just not that good and it's "decided" somehow?

AND (again, simultaneously....)

Keeping those same kids local at JC is going to transform those non-impact players into kids who can beat the "Big Schools." Logically, both of those things can't be true, at least most of the time.

To that point, I know the BOTC rallying cry is "But Pat Spencer" in terms of coaching/zero-to-hero/player development and senior year impact (and it's an OK example and a GREAT story), but also remember that Pat Spencer held back a year at St Marys (pre-K or K) and held back another year at BL (8th) so he was not a spring chicken in his senior year. Dude was seriously ready.

Spencer was a Double Holdback then . Did not know that. I expected him to be a holdback like most of starters at BL, but not a Double.

I remember the year I told someone BL was undefeated and a great High School team. He looked at me with sarcasm and said, they should be, they are all college freshman.

Remember that when everyone says how great our youth teams are compared to Long Island. They should be better they are OLDER. Hence why everyone is afraid to do the World Series.

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I agree that every team in the conference was upset when Loyola got rid of the old coach. He is a talented coach, but was constantly having to deal with parental BS. I think Loyola needed a breath of fresh air in the building to clear some of that out. Hearing the AD was made aware of that situation immediately upon being hired and it was a priority to correct. I think he got it right with Haus. Give him time to cook. His network of connections between him and his family are great, and he's used to navigating a politics-heavy team. I could see them returning to the final 4 this year and pushing to win it all. Overlook them at your own peril.

I think people may be on to something with JC too. They have only had a handful of good wins in conference. How they beat CH, I don't know. But they definitely effected other teams recruiting strategy in the conference. Less kids are leaving Harford County. I could see a spike in interest with Gunnar taking over. He's a young, positive guy. And the opportunities to play there are pretty good. A friend said the President wants to make JC a "premier lacrosse destination" in conference. That might be talk. But he did it with basketball, baseball and soccer, so you never know. Another team to watch this year.

Every parent so far is happy and excited for what Gunnar is going to bring to the team. That said, the JC president is a dipsh t.

Phones are ringing off the hill today for JC rising Juniors!! LFG!!

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Bernhardt back at Maryland where he belongs. The OG reclass is back!

Was he a reclass ?

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Dipsh-t is being too friendly with that little guy. He is insufferable.

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I agree that every team in the conference was upset when Loyola got rid of the old coach. He is a talented coach, but was constantly having to deal with parental BS. I think Loyola needed a breath of fresh air in the building to clear some of that out. Hearing the AD was made aware of that situation immediately upon being hired and it was a priority to correct. I think he got it right with Haus. Give him time to cook. His network of connections between him and his family are great, and he's used to navigating a politics-heavy team. I could see them returning to the final 4 this year and pushing to win it all. Overlook them at your own peril.

I think people may be on to something with JC too. They have only had a handful of good wins in conference. How they beat CH, I don't know. But they definitely effected other teams recruiting strategy in the conference. Less kids are leaving Harford County. I could see a spike in interest with Gunnar taking over. He's a young, positive guy. And the opportunities to play there are pretty good. A friend said the President wants to make JC a "premier lacrosse destination" in conference. That might be talk. But he did it with basketball, baseball and soccer, so you never know. Another team to watch this year.

Every parent so far is happy and excited for what Gunnar is going to bring to the team. That said, the JC president is a dipsh t.

Phones are ringing off the hill today for JC rising Juniors!! LFG!!
Because I am sure they are all talking about it with you for you to know that🙄

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Dipsh-t is being too friendly with that little guy. He is insufferable.

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I think he is referring to the JC President being both a dipsh-t and insufferable.

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I agree that every team in the conference was upset when Loyola got rid of the old coach. He is a talented coach, but was constantly having to deal with parental BS. I think Loyola needed a breath of fresh air in the building to clear some of that out. Hearing the AD was made aware of that situation immediately upon being hired and it was a priority to correct. I think he got it right with Haus. Give him time to cook. His network of connections between him and his family are great, and he's used to navigating a politics-heavy team. I could see them returning to the final 4 this year and pushing to win it all. Overlook them at your own peril.

I think people may be on to something with JC too. They have only had a handful of good wins in conference. How they beat CH, I don't know. But they definitely effected other teams recruiting strategy in the conference. Less kids are leaving Harford County. I could see a spike in interest with Gunnar taking over. He's a young, positive guy. And the opportunities to play there are pretty good. A friend said the President wants to make JC a "premier lacrosse destination" in conference. That might be talk. But he did it with basketball, baseball and soccer, so you never know. Another team to watch this year.

Every parent so far is happy and excited for what Gunnar is going to bring to the team. That said, the JC president is a dipsh t.

Phones are ringing off the hill today for JC rising Juniors!! LFG!!
Because I am sure they are all talking about it with you for you to know that🙄

Phone blowing up all day with excited parents.

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All this JC talk is great. Can JC get its act together and keep most of the above average talent in Harford county? If they do, they can become respectable, and then the top talent will stay. They link up with a club (not much to choose from) and could turn it all around. The drive time will only be getting longer and longer into Baltimore county.

We love the JC talk down here in AA Co.

They are doing a good job recruiting. All the Baltimore programs are getting squeezed for kids. It's not a coincidence that so many of them are resorting to out of state kids now that the good kids are staying at JC


JC folks like to simultaneously argue that the Harford County kids don't have the skills to make an impact at the "Big Schools" .... I think the usual quote is "they get lost on the bench." As if the boys have no role in that outcome whatsoever, they're just not that good and it's "decided" somehow?

AND (again, simultaneously....)

Keeping those same kids local at JC is going to transform those non-impact players into kids who can beat the "Big Schools." Logically, both of those things can't be true, at least most of the time.

To that point, I know the BOTC rallying cry is "But Pat Spencer" in terms of coaching/zero-to-hero/player development and senior year impact (and it's an OK example and a GREAT story), but also remember that Pat Spencer held back a year at St Marys (pre-K or K) and held back another year at BL (8th) so he was not a spring chicken in his senior year. Dude was seriously ready.

Spencer was a Double Holdback then . Did not know that. I expected him to be a holdback like most of starters at BL, but not a Double.

I remember the year I told someone BL was undefeated and a great High School team. He looked at me with sarcasm and said, they should be, they are all college freshman.

Remember that when everyone says how great our youth teams are compared to Long Island. They should be better they are OLDER. Hence why everyone is afraid to do the World Series.

Yeah like LI has no holdbacks...but it's true that it's less pervasive bc even Catholic HS is $70k there.

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For 2 kids for 4 years maybe - St. Anthony's in LI is $12k, Chamindade is $14k

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