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SMA has a built in advantage over almost all the other schools. There are 20+ Hawks, Crabs, FCA... players in each 8th grade class. They don't need to recruit they need to retain. My son was "recruited" by several of the MIAA schools, but not by SMA in the same way which is where he went to grade school.

SMA has a built in advantage over almost all the other schools. There are 20+ Hawks, Crabs, FCA... players in each 8th grade class. They don't need to recruit they need to retain. My son was "recruited" by several of the MIAA schools, but not by SMA in the same way which is where he went to grade school.

All this talk of growing the game is just that,,talk, The game is stagnate now with participation growing in just a few areas. MD and other hotbeds are seeing a slowdown and less participation, Lacrosse will continue to be a very little niche sport with a huge private school influence. Not good for growth.

Hope you made yourself feel better about your public school player.

"They all go to College Park so Gilman is the same as Lansdowne." Peel back the onion a bit further.

MD Private school graduation rate: 98-100%, almost all through normal graduation.
MD Public school graduation rate: 40-75%, not counting an additional 10%-25% GRE/HiSET or "alternative graduation." (total public % is 83%)

MD Private school college admittance rate: 96-99% (percent of most recent year grads admitted to any college)
MD Public school college admittance rate: 61%

MD Private School graduates college enrollment rate: 94% (percent of 18-24 year olds actually attending college)
MD Public School graduates college enrollment rate: 38%

There is a long list of problems with MD private schools, and assessing their *actual* value to students is full of pitfalls and false assumptions too. But the false "public and private are the same education" equivalency needs to be thrown away here.

Yes, let's peel back the onion a bit further yet...
You do realize there is a correlation between socioeconomic status and college attendance, right? Hence the disparity in attendance? You do realize, as well, that there is a severe shortage of people entering the trades in this country and the numbers you so gloriously flaunt above regarding public school college attendance mean you might someday have a plumber when your toilet overflows -- as numbers of these public school graduates are entering the trades and will be earning more than your McD to Williams College basket weaving major?

The reality with schools wether public or private is the want and the expectation of a good education. Wether the school is top middle or bottom of the road if a student wants to succeed and put the time in they will. Plenty of private elite school kids do do not succeed because they expect to be fine in the end.

With all that being said the resources in some private and public schools allow students to be more successful through multiple ways. There are many students who want to be successful but are stifled by the lack of resources.

Resources include many things like updated technology, buildings, qualified teachers and coaches, outside of school environments, food security, access to sports and clubs in and outside of schools.

I went to a private school and wish they included some sort of trade learning along with academics.

The reality with schools wether public or private is the want and the expectation of a good education. Wether the school is top middle or bottom of the road if a student wants to succeed and put the time in they will. Plenty of private elite school kids do do not succeed because they expect to be fine in the end.

With all that being said the resources in some private and public schools allow students to be more successful through multiple ways. There are many students who want to be successful but are stifled by the lack of resources.

Resources include many things like updated technology, buildings, qualified teachers and coaches, outside of school environments, food security, access to sports and clubs in and outside of schools.

I went to a private school and wish they included some sort of trade learning along with academics.

Just need to point out that it is spelled "whether", not wether. Ah, the irony. I'm a public school kid. You're a private. BOOM.

I don't need to make myself feel better. Following public high school, my kid is attending a pretty exclusive school on academic merit. Imagine that.

Yes, let's peel back the onion a bit further yet...
You do realize there is a correlation between socioeconomic status and college attendance, right? Hence the disparity in attendance? You do realize, as well, that there is a severe shortage of people entering the trades in this country and the numbers you so gloriously flaunt above regarding public school college attendance mean you might someday have a plumber when your toilet overflows -- as numbers of these public school graduates are entering the trades and will be earning more than your McD to Williams College basket weaving major?

The reality with schools wether public or private is the want and the expectation of a good education. Wether the school is top middle or bottom of the road if a student wants to succeed and put the time in they will. Plenty of private elite school kids do do not succeed because they expect to be fine in the end.

With all that being said the resources in some private and public schools allow students to be more successful through multiple ways. There are many students who want to be successful but are stifled by the lack of resources.

Resources include many things like updated technology, buildings, qualified teachers and coaches, outside of school environments, food security, access to sports and clubs in and outside of schools.

I went to a private school and wish they included some sort of trade learning along with academics.

Reality is the majority of D1 recruits go to the same high schools and play on the same clubs.
In Baltimore you either go to McD,BL,CHC and Loyola to a lesser degree or play for Crabs or 91 ( FCA gets the Kelly’s in top schools).

Your chances of getting an academic scholarship are much greater coming from a public school.

Accurate. Many college players come from other schools and clubs but for upper D1....the road map is there.

And most end up riding a bench.

A quick tour through lists of past Hawks, Crabs, and FCA D1 players shows the same. Your point? If you think HS club ball meaningfully impacts who's starting in their redshirt soph year of college, after 2.5 college years of injuries, parties, firlfriends, academics, and now the transfer portal, you are on your own delusional spirit quest. There are kids starting at D1 who never had a local club team period. If you're 21 and hitting 112mph in the upper left corner, nobody cares that you played for Koopers B team at 16.

Stop trying to white knuckle your kid's D1 path into existence because he rides the bench for Crabs. Tell him to do the work (acad and athl), and you get to relax and cut the checks like a normal father does.

Carroll County public schools put more kids in great Colleges than any other school systems.... I guarantee more kids from CCPS got into Maryland that all of the private schools

If you think that, you must have never been thru the grind of D1 college athletics. Most D1 players are from top clubs and top High schools. The occasional, I mean occasional top D1 starter and player is an unknown... Look at all D1 rosters and starters,, Top High Schools and Clubs. That is a Boom !

You pay big bucks to play D1 lacrosse.
The amount of money top D1 teams give to individual players is nothing compared to what you’ve spent…. clubs, private schools etc.

Lacrosse only gets the top 50 recruits into colleges they don’t deserve to get into the rest end up at schools they wouldn’t have even applied to or heard of before. Most private school lacrosse players end up at lower tiered schools then their non lacrosse playing student counterparts.The “lacrosse is going to help get you into a better school” theory went out the window about twenty years ago. You just have to figure a way to get your kid ranked in the top 50.

Speak for yourself. I have 2 sons who got into better schools and they were not top 50.

Good for you… York to McDaniel?

Lacrosse only gets the top 50 recruits into colleges they don’t deserve to get into the rest end up at schools they wouldn’t have even applied to or heard of before. Most private school lacrosse players end up at lower tiered schools then their non lacrosse playing student counterparts.The “lacrosse is going to help get you into a better school” theory went out the window about twenty years ago. You just have to figure a way to get your kid ranked in the top 50.

Good for you… York to McDaniel?

Lacrosse only gets the top 50 recruits into colleges they don’t deserve to get into the rest end up at schools they wouldn’t have even applied to or heard of before. Most private school lacrosse players end up at lower tiered schools then their non lacrosse playing student counterparts.The “lacrosse is going to help get you into a better school” theory went out the window about twenty years ago. You just have to figure a way to get your kid ranked in the top 50.