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There are several HS kids on LI that have national NIL deals and that number is growing all of the time. By definition, these kids have “high profiles”.

Tell me, how big is lacrosse “nationally”? Is it bigger than girls softball? What about volleyball? ESPN gives more exposure to spike ball. So very “high profile “

Aside from Spallina can you name them?

I am aware of several but not going to named them here. There’s more deals announced all the time.

Oddly enough, when you check the websites there are none other than Spallina, makes me think you're fabricating this. Considering its public information what's the secret?

I bet most kids in the same school as these "High Profile" lax players don't even know who they are. Go to your sons(AKA the next Rabil) school and randomly ask kids if they know he is. I think you would be in for a surprise. Might deflate your head a bit.

A couple of them can be seen wearing their sponsored red helmets…

I’ve seen announcements via Instagram for STX. Definitely some kids from the island. There are other companies too. It’s still an emerging phenomenon at the HS level, and growing.

I know of some Legacy and 91 kids that have deals.

Like what? a pair of slides, a few t shirts and a new head. Seriously nobody in HS or college for that matter is getting rich off lacrosse NIL deals.

Seriously. No where in this thread did it state that anyone was getting rich. Please reread the post and do your best to stay on topic. Geeesh.

And yet HS football and basketball players in HS are getting substantial money. College players getting millions. College lacrosse players getting a ham sandwich. It’s not a new phenomenon by the way, it’s been around for a bit.

College lacrosse players are now getting meaningful NIL money. 10k-20k per year and more. Google it. It’s changing recruiting.

What are you talking about Manhasset going undefeated ?? Besides fogo you graduated all your good offensive players. 2024 class not so good.

8 D-1 current players are mainly offensive players

Manhasset also dropped down a division to win a championship

You know that's not how it works right? Division is based on school population...has nothing to do with trying to win championships.

He definitely doesn’t know with an absurd statement like that.

This is more realistic GC, Southside, Farmingdale, Manhasset, Pequa. then your gap.

Pequa should run threw Nassau Conference 1. i think Fdale is there only challenge. There only weakness is at Fogo, however they have a junior showing promise. if the kid can can go 50% or better they will be ok. They have by far the best middies a solid LSM and a good D and Atatck. Will See.

Exactly! Stunnads have no idea how the schools are grouped. Look it up on Section 8 website. It's also not an fair comparison to say a school with 1000 kids has a better team than a school of 600. I would hope they do. Geography, demographics, population and traditional sports in those towns play a big part of it as well. Some schools that dominated in the 80's and 90's can barely field teams anymore.

Don't count them out, hear they're calling up a few PAL kids to make up for the lost production. You heard it here first

Manhasset kids posting on here is good fun...learned from their daddies and mommys who have been trolling these pages for years. Even CSH doesn't do it as much!

How did the winter league at Stony Brook look?

Expensive.

Good way to keep the stick in the hands and play competitive games prior to spring but they should have an A and B division so less blowouts. Live stream is great, commentary needs improvement. Playoffs on a holiday weekend also not the best idea.

Agreed, how about a 516 and 631 league with JV and Varsity? Can't listen to these two talk about the next coming to Jim Brown as he is playing against a 9th grader from Yaphank.

Guess you never heard about the volume button. It’s great.

How does Inside Lacrosse assign stars to the player?

Lots of fun. Everybody enjoyed the competition with very good teams.

It represents a combination of Ty Xanders personal opinion and natural bias toward MD prep kids, and the frequency in which he sees a particular player. If he doesn’t see/evaluate a player, player has no shot at making his rankings (obviously). He doesn’t get to any LI games unless it’s playoff games. If your kid gets to a playoff game or two, that could be huge, if he does well. Conversely, Ty goes to a lot of MD prep games and know the landscape they’re intimately, which gives those players a huge leg up on anyone outside of MD. Hey. It’s lacrosse. Nothing is fair and equitable. Absolutely nothing.

Correct.Some teams taking full advantage of it, while others don’t even touch it. With NIL $’s, the coaches are no longer limited by the 12.5 scholarships per team. It’s a total game changer.

Ty saw my kid once and gave him a very high Eval rating that he very rarely gives out. Based on only that score, he should be a 5 star, comparatively speaking. But he never saw my son play again. So he gave him an unranked 4 stars. That how it works. Not really that big of a deal when all said and done. My son got a great offer from a great school and program, since any self respecting college coach will do their own evaluations. That said, a higher ranking would definitely had a big impact. Moral of the story: Does the IL ranking matter to college coaches? Most definitely. But it’s also not the end all, either. Coaches will do their due diligence. Having the NLF rankings definitely helps to give an additional perspective on the players. And the NLF doesn’t have the MD bias that Ty has.

NLF has a Matt Chandick bias and you need to put money in his pocket to get ranked.

They are all taking money for rankings in one way or another LILJ, NLF, USCL, IL, you name it.

LILJ is the absolute worst especially for boys ....they don't watch and evaluate anyone . I have seen it firsthand . Waste of time and money . Not sure how they handle girls but for the boys it's complete nonsense and a waste of time .

The IL ranking does NOT matter one bit to a college coach. Lmao.

Completely disagree. Rankings matter for exposure and so does the club your son plays for. And the NLF rankings always seem to be tilted. For example, if the best player in the class did not play for an NLF club, would he be the #1 in the NLF rankings? He would be in In the Inside Lacrosse rankings. Yes they cover Maryland a lot more, but they are at least club agnostic.

Unfortunately that’s a wrong take. Having a relative who is an AD Assistant, I asked this exact question and the response was rankings/stars matter. It doesn’t matter from the perspective of performance when the team is winning (and maybe to the coach who sees the player first hand) but when not winning the first question asked is are you getting the top players or comparable players at comparable schools and the AD’s in all sports use rankings and stars. For them it is virtually impossible to be on top of every sport and every player their team brings in so when they are playing mediocre or not up to expectations the question being asked to coaches is what are the rankings of the players being brought in or how many stars. They ADs need a comparison to see why x team is successful and why they are not. Again, we all know that stars are not indicative performance just like an SAT score is not indicative of academic performance but at the end of the day ADs want results and winning teams and when they are not they look to rankings and stars as an potential indicator of why. Just reporting an answer to a question.

Stop the BS. There is no ideal algorithm here. It’s not science. It’s opinion which is based only on the players that are evaluated and how many times they have been evaluated. Xanders lives in MD and is an x-prep school kid, so he spends more time in MD than outside MD. Prob like prep school kids since he was one. Chandiks is more tied to the northeast,!lives in the NE, so spends more time with NE teams. If your kid lives in the NE, it’s more likely that he will be seen far more by Chandik than Xander. Based on that, he should get a more fair/accurate Eval by Chandik, than Xander. Of course, that’s based on the assumption that both Chandik and Xander are equally competent evaluators. Rankings aren’t perfect. No where close. They just give a basic framework of talent, but even that isn’t accurate. After sayin all that, one might assume that, if they aren’t at all accurate, then they can’t be too important. Unfortunately, that’s false. While rankings aren’t the end-all, and coaches will usually do their own due diligence on their recruits, these rankings are hugely important in the recruiting process, from my experience. They very literally mean big scholarship bucks and admission to elite schools. Yes, they create huge demand for top players which equals big time opportunities, scholarship and NIL dollars and the potential of long term high paying employment after graduation.