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9 kids to be cut?! That's quite a stretch. But some consolidation between Nassau and Maget teams may be necessary to create a top 5 team.

Why would Kidd want to go to maget. Seems like Kidd is trending up and maget has issues. Why wouldn’t maget players be jumping at the chance to join the better team??

Yj really has some holdbacks??

Magets issues are the proverbial magnet that’s eating it’s way through the pockets of the team

Huh? Please explain?

please dont

Goalie Dad here- wondering if LI families can tell me what your clubs offer goalies as far as training. Outside of your regular team practice. Thank you

It's really unavoidable. Can't think of any team whose best player is from out of state and doesn't practice with them that doesn't have any issues. It's the reality of high-end travel.

And I am not suggesting to cut the out of state player -- the team probably wouldn't even be top 20 without her.

Who's coaching that team?

Goalie training. You need to find people on the side. Ask club coaches or school coaches. Plenty of people out there doing private lessons (find someone that played the position). Goaliesmith is great, but pricy. Their camps come around a few times a year. YJ offers some training, but it's extra and geared at younger players. Shooting clinics will sometimes offer free time, but your kid will get banged up.

Jester offer goalie training within their own club. The lady who runs it Sam Tilts is an awesome coach

I don’t think yellow jackets offer any goalie training included in their tuition.

Legacy offers free sessions with BO goaltending. I am not sure how many sessions you get.

Not sure what other clubs offer (Liberty etc). Best of luck.

Anybody doing APEX? Is it worth it at this agonor just a money grab. By worth it I mean training / experience, not exposure.

Like most things at this age, money grab. Focus on individual and small group trainings. I’d say leading into high school focus on exposure and those fancy Instagram posts and those new Jerseys hahaha

I have heard from another goalie parent, who's daughter is very good, that the APEX camp wasn't worth going to. My daughter has not gone to one.

As a parent of an older goalie, all the camps are mostly reps, even the "best" ones. Goalie camps are really a workout for a goalie, and they may learn a thing or two.

Save your money. For the same investment you could get some at peast seni private/small group training eith a goalie coach. And be much better for it.

Good luck to jesters and liberty when they merge all the teams. Gotta love devouring teams to be the biggest and then tearing friends, teams, and coaches apart .

Don’t waste time on showcases or nonsense till they get older. Use money for personal training

Don’t waste time on showcases or nonsense till they get older. Use money for personal training

Who are you using for training outside of your teams practices?

Local College kids, former players are good. Goaliesmith camps are great (expensive), usually have about 100+ goalies attend. Remember, you're kid is in 7th grade....don't burn them out.

Boys 2028 BOTC forum has a database error.

Something is definitely up with that page

They pulled down that page and won’t put it back up.

American select: which is the best team? And did everyone get out on a team? Hearing some names who made it have me wondering if this is worth the time and money.

Black is the top team. Then Red and then Grey.

Not everyone made a team, but I know lots of girls who are turning down red and grey spots so I think over time, everyone will have a chance.

My opinion is that it's not worth the time or $$. DC tryouts only had 21 girls tryout at this age level and lots of girls from B clubs.

My guess is Maryland will be the only competitive team at this age level

Wrong. DC/Maryland had 35/40 girls at Tryouts. Girls from Pride, Next Level, Stars, YJ South,etc.

Save the money unless you have $700 to burn. Carol will still be able to feed the family. Any event that has tryouts but still makes several teams is simply about the $$

3 teams sounds like its very watered down. Most players and parents at this age group know this isn't needed so I don't think you will see a lot of top talent at any of the teams.

It isn't needed at the 2025 level either, but that's s different discussion.

What’s really happening lately I call “instagram teams”. Parents sign up for these things so they can post on Instagram “so proud of my kid xxxxx who made America Select grey team. Your hard work is paying off “. Kids also want to list these things as well.

The organization that has perfected this is LILJ. With the excelsior games, all Long Island teams etc. Remember if you have to pay for a tryout and then pay to compete in the “games” it’s a complete money grab.

Exactly.

Our club director told our 26s this summer, this is how you should prioritize events for recruiting.


1) Club tourney games
2) Prospect Days (#1 if you are a goalie)
3) Invite-only showcases (Best in Class, UA150)
4) Open showcases (Apex)
5) All-star teams (all-American, American select, Excelsior games)

All-American and American-Select have huge value when the girls are of recruiting age. I've seen the coaches lining the sidelines at both of these events. Excelsior games have value for regional recruiting opportunities, especially at DII &DIII level and outside top 25 D1. Invite only showcases do not get the best players and should not be #3 on list. All of this needs to be put in perspective as well. What works for some kids does not work for all. Elite players who play on Elite teams need to only worry about club tournaments and prospect days. Kids not on top club teams need to do a little more to get exposure if they have their sights set on top 25 schools. Kids who are happy just have an opportunity to play college lacrosse at any level will get that chance just by playing club. The priority should be to properly align your childs ability and college desires. Start there and everything will work out just fine.

Agreed that every recruiting path is different.

However, when you look at Long Island kids, almost any kid making AS/AA team for this region will be playing at the elite clubs and getting great exposure already. If this was a Tennessee girls lacrosse board, I would agree with you. However, the girls who make these teams are generally the last ones who need exposure. Also, since some local clubs play 5 or 6 tourneys per summer without a break, combined with prospect days, these girls are really tired and it shows.

Any thoughts on the NGLL?

Surprised how much Jesters beat Liberty. Their match ups in the past were always very close. Seems like Jesters is the #1 on LI.

What do you think their chances are in the playoffs?

Any truth that Coach Sam Tilts will be coaching Igloo 2028 Team ?

Does it really matter?

is there even an igloo 28 team?

Who is this trainer/coach you are speaking of?

She runs a bunch of training sessions all week long for all kids. A lot of girls like her sessions. That being said she’s on her third organization in 5 years. She went from 91 to jesters and now to igloo.