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Which players from FCA reclassed? And they were their best players? Doesn’t bode well for those left behind. Did they go to FCA 2028?

Hearing a lot of 2027 FCA reclassed to 2028....the Calvert Hall Way.

Only one kid went directly from FCA 27 to 28.
28 did get several holdbacks.

FCA picked up some quality on-grade 27s. They will be ok.

They folded. No 27 team this year.

They didn't fold. BLC only fields teams up to 7th grade, then they transition to DC Express.

St. Paul's! Not C.H.

Any good games scheduled for this weekend?

Anyone this misinformed should just stay off this board and spectate

agree, but maybe the person was thinking of VLC, which did fold its 2027 team?

Fascinating to me that in 3 short years we went from the Cavs being a very respectable program,
to having no Cavs but VLC is created (2019),
to having VLC *and* VA Crabs and True VA (2020),
to having VA Crabs purchasing VLC (2020-2021) and True VA failing to take off,
to having all 3 newer programs in a terminal spiral in terms of program health (2021-2022).

All of this under the leadership of "Former D1 players" and "the best coaches," "elite program directors" etc. Well done, grownups.

True VA is doing just fine, thank you. Had a nice outing this last weekend. strong fall. stronger spring ahead.

Any idea what happened to the Cavs? They definitely were always extremely solid in an area with lots of kids who wanted to play lacrosse.

How did it fall apart?

Wait, True VA?

Yes True VA is doing great!

2-5 in AA ball last year.
3-1 this weekend with big wins over really tough Roughriders, Dukes and Black Bear teams.
Big things ahead. [SARCASM Font]

The Cavs were caught in multiple events playing older players and players in older classes playing down. It culminated when they played a high school goalie in a HoCo playoff game in a grade school playoff game. Upon further review, Cavs were deemed to have been doing this on a regular basis in many class groups. They were then blackballed by many tournaments directors.

VLC tried to step in and took many of their players and coaches but VLC has their own organizational problems. An example is not being able to field a 2027 team.

Not a True VA parent but come on, give these kids a break. The more solid programs we have locally, the better for everyone. This club is clearly trending for the better, not worse. Lot of elite level kids in NoVa, most playing for Madlax. Many of those kids will get tired of the ML rub, True VA could benefit greatly. As could Hammers out in Loudoun, who have an insanely nice, full time practice / training facility.

Overcharging for medicore clubs is not a good trend. True MD is becoming a ghost town as they can't deliver elite teams. You pay 3k and you can't even get the kids matching helmets? What a joke.

Annapolis hawks, Richmond hawks, Crabs and Team 10 all meeting at hogan.

Should be a good bracket.

Team 10 has been looking pretty good this Fall, and it will be interesting to see how they stack up versus Annapolis Hawks, and where Crabs stand next to Hawks and Team 10.

Is this true? They really ran out a high school player in HoCo?

You're right that kids will get tired of MadLax and depart the program (and in fact many have already), but they are more likely to go to NextLevel or DC Express than to True VA or Hammers.

Yes, it is true and well documented that in the spring of 2021, VLC used a 9th grade, off-roster goalie in a sixth grade HoCo championship game in one of the lower divisions. They actually replayed the game, and ironically, the team that was victimized and awarded the rematch was MadLax, who has pulled more than its share of roster shenanigans in the past. I can't fathom how any adult (coach or parent) would allow that stuff to happen, but it did, and it makes you wonder how often it happened and was not caught.

Team 10 could finish at the top of that bracket. They are legit this year. Richmond Hawks probably the weakest of those 4

I can confirm for the 2028s that I've seen Cavs popped for illegal and off-age subs (Fall 2020 tournament). Ironically, while they destroyed the B-level competition, the older Cavs kids were great sportsmen on the field.

And speaking of 2028 roster shenanigans and True VA, True VA's brightest moment was probably in HoCo 2021, playing 2027 and 2028 kids illegally on the A-level True Baltimore team....5 True VA players dismissed from the HoCo semi-final for A-league after the HoCo Black coach requested a roster check. If you are openly cheating rosters at A-ball.....that's truly a "club on the way up." As others said, why as a parent would you want your family and your money to be involved with something like that?

True's inability to get True VA off the ground in a meaningful way isn't a result of "aww shucks" moments, it's the fact that it's run by True, a youth sports model that does not work in a saturated market, or a market where parents/customers and opposing coaches have "been around the block." I was going to say "sophisticated" but we are talking about Fairfax County so nevermind.

Sure, compared to what. 2027 Black Bear has been beaten by 2028 A-level HoCo teams in the last 14 months. A hybrid 2027-2028 Dukes team was beat by a 2028 AAA HoCo team.

Parents make fun of programs like Cannons and Predators who get mopped up in dramatic fashion by the likes of Hawks and Madlax. Meanwhile True VA is over here crowing about beating teams that get beat by younger kids whose clubs aren't even in the conversation at their own age.

Strong spring ahead.......we'll check back in on that.

Actually, the vast majority of the kids playing Madlax are from Fairfax and Loudoun Counties. It’s a hike to go play w DCE and NL. Point is, if these teams can keep a little momentum and start competing (like VLC has done at 2026), kids will drive 10-15 minutes to Hammers or True VA rather than the 1 hr+ it takes to cross that miserable fricking bridge on 495

Actually....the vast majority of kids will stay at Madlax despite what Next Level mom wants people to think..

Just adding that No one makes fun of Cannons. A fine club that always competes and generally shows well in its brackets.

Wow... a lot of insecurity on this board. It would be comical if it wasn't so sad.

In elite division matchups this weekend-

Next Level defeats Team 91 by a score of 6-4 in the Adrenaline Gold Cup Championship.

Crabs roll Hawks by a score of 12-2 in Fall Brawl pool play.

Team 10 beats Richmond Hawks by a score of 5-4 in Fall Brawl pool play.

Hawks 2027 1-2….. sounds like they need to reclass again

Correction: NL beats 91 MD 7-4

Team 91 MD.

Team 10 also beats Crabs

Does the Hawks have 2 Teams? According to US Club lacrosse they have a green and a black team

Hawks loses 12-2 to Crabs and then gets beat 10-4 by Team Ten. Explanation?

I heard they were missing one of their best players on attack. And these are still young kids.... sometimes they lose confidence and get rolled. I'd be curious to hear how face-offs went as well.

The Hawks are built around the attack kid getting 15+ shots a game. He's probably worth a solid 5 wor and maybe winning that game.

I wouldn't put too much stock in USCL for awhile. It looks like either their scraping software is pulling from both boys and girls results and even multiple ages and putting results in their team pages; or people are posting results on the wrong pages.

The scores posted here are confirmed on the tourney app