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How about your daughter received offers due to the obvious fact (if you are being truthful) that the college coaches watched your daughter play and they liked what they saw, they believed that your daughter could help their program compete and they believed that your daughter would be a good fit.

Agree that college coaches could care less about the lacrosse related opinions of parents whether those opinions are of the parents child or the coaches program.

Anyone have details on the Inside Lacrosse Midnight Mania? Invite says 88 girls 7pm-midnight on 8/31 with all games streaming. Apparently they had a boys event the past few years. Sounds alot like that BS Juniors Open event. Anyone have more info? IL also hosts the Elite 8 so that takes out a bunch girls from the equation.

Empire bengals “A” team ranked 100 behind YJ D team and Top
Guns B team. What happened to this team? Didn’t they used to be a stronger group?

YJ O'Sullivan being ranked that low is a joke. they didn't play any fall tournaments due to CR & YJ policies of mixing the teams and limiting the number of girls that can play in the fall. There are a lot ot good girls on that team who should be getting looks from schools but aren't cause of the ranking IMO

It sounds like this event is replacing the Elite 8 that was played last year on August 31 for the 2023 age group.

Colleges don’t look at the rankings. They watch good teams. That’s why they aren’t getting looks.

Teams didn’t sign up for Elite 8. No benefit to top teams. They want to be home waiting for midnight instead of throwing money away and traveling to Maryland on a week night.

Facts. If you were a good team playing good teams they’d watch. Plenty of teams in the area who took risks and played hard teams and their rankings weren’t great but they got a heaping of looks because of their schedule - Ramos is a great example of this

So true. O’Sullivan parents needed to demand better division playing at tournaments. Play some better teams. If they can’t do it in same tourneys as the other 3 YJ/24 teams, they should have been at different tournaments.

I heard they canceled the Midnight Mania event too.

It is confirmed that it is canceled. We received an email a few hours ago. It was based on insufficient registration and club coach feedback. Not sure who they were expecting to attend anyway. I can't imagine any college coaches had any interest at all.

Here's a question. Is it better for your daughter to play on a top 10 team playing other top ranked teams every week? Or is your daughter better off being the best player on a second / third bracket team where she never comes off the field?

What are you saying? Look who Kildare played this summer (and fall!) with the exception to a single tournament they has a TERRIBLE lineup all summer.

Yes. Not enough brackets for 4 YJ teams to play in competitive games! If I were Kildare kids or O’Sullivan kids, I would be very disappointed after this past summer and the competition.

They either need to go to different tournaments to play top brackets or figure out how to get them some competition. A lot of games were blowouts and a complete waste of time this summer. I don’t think coaches want to sit and watch that? It benefits no one. Tourney Directors need to do a better job in scheduling. Especially in a recruiting year.

Your director requests their level. Put 2 teams in highest bracket and 2 more in 2nd highest. There are 5 levels. Blame your club only.

Unfortunately it’s too late now. Sept 1 is days away. Some of you should have stopped drinking YJ Koolaid a couple years ago and got your daughters on TG, Jesters or Legacy. Only YJ A team girls go to the best programs, with a few very rare exceptions.

How well attended were the weekends prospects days? Who is having events this weekend?

I agree that in the past mostly "A" girls went to top programs. However, the current A team has seen no movement since the pandemic. There are girls on all teams who could be on that "A" team and are simply better players than girls on the current team . College Coaches are there to assess the talent. Lets see what they have to say September 1.

About 70 24s at Notre Dame and 55 at Michigan.

The Notre Dame prospect day was completely stacked -- the championship game could have easily been a top 15 college game.

I counted 41 UA 150 girls from the team sheets.

Assuming she gets regular playing time at her preferred position then the first option by far.

if she is a middle who is playing mostly attack or defense on the top team, then I'd lean towards the second option.

What schools are having prospect days this weekend? Good luck to all going.

Duke, UVA, Syracuse, Ohio State, and Vanderbilt. Probably a few more I'm missing

I think the author is 100% correct, most college coaches make their decisions based on what the parents of the athletes think is best for their teams. Very little consideration is given to the actual athlete themselves or their body of work.

Agree, hearing that the new trend is to exclusively invite parents to school visits and have the student athletes stay home. While this may seem surprising to some, I know for a fact that D1 coaches have been waiting patiently all summer, listening to loud, vocal parents screaming on the sideline, and this is now their opportunity to learn from the experts in forming their recruiting class. They also want to hear what these same parents think about the other candidates they are considering offering, especially those on a rival club team. Like Nick Saban once said - trust this process. I'm certain this new format will result in championship caliber teams across all D1 ranks and equitable treatment among all recruits.

Do we think Long Island has the #1 recruit this year ?

How do you know who are UA150 girls from the sheets?

USC camp as well this weekend.

The Michigan camp was also stacked; not sure how many UA150s overall but my daughter's group of 20 had 3 commits, 3 M&D Blacks as well as several Hero's Green and Capital Blue. My guess is that many from the Michigan camp went to ND the next day.

For parents who have been through the recruiting process before, I was curious as to how often kids on the "second tier" list eventually get offers? I realize probably never for a UNC/BC/MD level school; but what about a #10-30 ranked program? Like many 2024 kids/parents we are pretty anxious right now but wanted to be prepared for what to expect on Thursday and beyond. Thanks in advance.

Also for veteran recruiting parents: if a college coach initiate a call to speak to your daughter's club/high school coach prior to 9/1, does that typically result in a phone call directly to your child in early Sept?

This 24 watchlist by long island lax journal is yet another joke. Theyre jsut trying to drum up supporters to buy into more of their overpriced events which sport no coaches, GREEDY.

No, and there are only about 2-3 5 star recruits

There is probably multiple “#1” recruits throughout the country. Depends on what a college is looking for. How do you define #1? Kind of hard to define that.

I think you have to realize that the recruiting process is unique to every athlete and school. Not all top recruits want to go to UNC/BC. Some want a very top academic school, some want to experience a different part of the country. For example, If you look at the past top recruits out of LI, like the Miller sisters, the both chose California schools, but could have gone anywhere they wanted. I think school like UVA, Duke, Northwestern, and ND offer those top academics as well as great lacrosse and are more attractive to many than a MD or UNC for those reasons. And some top girls want IVY for obvious reasons as well. So, if you take last year’s recruiting class as an example, schools like UNC/BC/MD will commit a few standouts within the first few weeks, but then you will see them commit a bunch or much lower ranked players from October to December. No school gets all the players they want.

So who is the number one recruit if not from LI?

Are you referring to a specific "second tier" "list"? Not sure exactly what you are asking.

10 - 30? That's a broad range, # 10 is a lot closer to Top 5 than Top 30....

No need to to be anxious, none of it is in your or your daughters control. The college coaches will go after and make offers to the players that they believe will help their program.

The majority of the Top 10-20 programs will be going after the same athletes on September 1st. Many other programs will also be trying to get the top players as well but it is the exception to the rule when non traditional Top 20 programs lands top talent.

Parents and players will finally find out where the player stands in relation to the rest of the 2024 class. Again, no need to be anxious, most of this process is beyond your (your daughters) control at this point. Just make sure the coaches at the schools that your daughter would like to go to are aware of her interest. Coaches want players who want to be there, if the coach has your daughter lumped in with 20 - 30 or more other players they will take the players who express a sincere desire to attend their school and play for their program over the kid who is indifferent.

The Top Players will pretty much be able to choose whatever school they want and when you look at the traditional Top 10 - 20 Programs those schools offer some incredible opportunities. IMHO, that is why there is not much parity in this sport, the top players rarely choose to go outside the traditional powers. The top recruits have a diverse group of excellent academic / athletic schools to choose from.... Take a look at the list below... why would a "top tier" student athlete choose a school outside of the list below? The reality is that the majority do not go outside the traditional powers.

Boston College
Maryland
North Carolina
Northwestern
Syracuse
Stony Brook
Princeton
Virginia
Florida
Penn
Notre Dame
JMU
Penn State
Duke
Loyola
Stanford
USC
Hopkins
UMass

The following have been in the mix as well in recent years:

Denver
Michigan
Arizona St

Navy offers an incredible opportunity for those who are interested in that commitment.

Clemson will be knocking on the door quickly.

Vanderbilt should stat to be a little better on a more consistent basis.

No disrespect to any program not listed... just rattled these off the top of my head. Just seems that the vast majority of the best players choose to go many of the schools listed above every year.

Obviously, the Top 5 - 10 programs get the lions share of the top players every year.

Expressed interest to
Club does not mean they will call. expressed interest could
Mean they’re second tier on their list or #1 on their list. Do not expect a call from all 20 schools that told your coach or recruiting coordinator they liked your kid

Well if there are the same 5 kids from ct schools want, once they commit the school goes to their 6th, then 7th, and so on. It really depends where the top players land and then other spots open. Also should recognize schools are taking 5-12 kids usually. 12 is a HUGE class. They may only need 2 attackers, so even if their number one choice goes elsewhere that only leaves one spot open to the next best kid

That is normally done by Inside Lacrosse. They will rank the girls. They now just do 5 stars for the best of the best. That willl happen after the commitments fall. Last year the Grizzlies attacker was ranked # 1 and a believe 2 or 3 LI girls were 5 star recruits.

While I agree with some of what you say. UMass over Michigan is strange. Nobody I know would choose UMass over Mich. And Clemson should already be on that list, considering the commits they have. You could also include Rutgers who has vastly improved.

Nope she’s on the CT Grizzlies