BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2025-10th Grade Fall 2022/Summer 2023

Use this thread to discuss lacrosse pertaining to 10th Grade Boys (2025 Grads) for the Fall 2022/Summer 2023 Season.

Reposting last post from previous SY:

Jokers will be or are already part of Rebels East with E3 .

Jesters restarted in Massapequa and will draw more kids from the area than TB

If your kid is not already on a team have him train with the school teams and wait for all the teams to do there second call where they tell you what positions they are looking for and you really have a shot.

If the rebels second team is so good, why are they in the weakest bracket in Lake George? There’s AA, A, and B, challenge yourself and play in the A. Are you avoiding Express?

No skin on either team but at this age are we really worrying about avoiding anybody? from this point forward it’s all about playing time and improving on any aspect of a kids game and doing well at upcoming showcases these kids are in HS now playing all different aged kids and skill levels the days of who is king of the hill are behind these kids it’s time for you to move along as well

Who said they are so good? Didn't look very good last week at LIU.

Playing without some kids. . Rebels now own Jokers , E3 and 2 out of state teams will also come under the umbrella.
Interesting to see if they focus on improving the product or just want to be in the merchandise business.. Need to step up recruiting if they want to keep kids.

Hey the club found their niche and grew the club in a saturated market. Not easy to do. IMHO they have to be able to build out their commitments if they want to compete with the NLF level clubs. Until that happens their best talent will leave before HS or while in HS, I suspect.

Why are you so fixated on what the Rebels are doing? How'd Express CoachC or any of the other LI teams do this weekend? Worry about your kid and his situation not everyone else. There is going to be plenty of movement this year as kids look to improve. Shiny chrome blue helmets will be at every tryout since they can't even fill their roster nowadays.

Rebels B team is good program. The coaches are TOP NOTCH guys and the team is improving. Too bad the rest of the program doesnt follow their lead.

They won the C bracket this weekend. They crushed teams, shut them out. Can you imagine how weak that competition was. They should challenge themselves more and play better teams.

C bracket = PAL and lower

I honestly think they wanted to and just got placed in that bracket. The single A bracket was really good B+ to A competition. So let’s move onto tryouts and drop it and focus on the better 2nd level teams. The 6 below are the best 2nd level teams. No need to rank.

Turtles (tryouts over)
ECE(tryouts over)
Express (today/tomorrow)
Rebels (this week)
S2S (this week)
91 (no tryouts for this age)

Great coaches and kids that played great this weekend despite not have a fogo and some other kids. Tell us what your program is doing so good before you tear down another.

Big difference in how clubs and individuals conduct themselves next season. Some will continue to play as a team and continue to improve, some will just support the stars in order to showcase a few players, others will try and sell the entire bunch on recruitment bs. You need to have an honest conversation with your kid and evaluate their situation. Coaches will say anything to keep your 4k in their program. We've already had better players miss tournaments to do individual showcases. Makes the team less competitive but no up to us who plays. Remember not everyone is going on to the next level so ask yourself are you spending you money to support others or because your kid still enjoys playing.

who's fault is it that you didn't have enough players to fill out your B roster. For sure you supplemented with A players anyway, but go ahead keep drinking the kool aid and telling us how great the program is.

How about this. Your deciding on a club (2nd level team, not AA). Call the director and ask how many kids have you been to help with the recruiting process. Because 90% of these kids are at the point where they want that real bad or are considering things. Just take a step back and reach out and say…”for the your 2022 and 2023 teams how many kids did your organization help with the process”?

Rebels now have 2 full time employees that will focus on recruiting. These are very lacrosse connected men.

Going to happen when other teams are running tryouts before the season is done and forcing new kids to commit asap. These kids are all in high school. Time to lose the a/b , reclass monikers. That’s what is holding your kid back. You compete with whatever is in front of you.

Sounds like somebody’s kid got cut or left rebels and is riding the bench somewhere lol you should just worry about your kids development and let the other kids just play.

Rebels are going to have 10+ Division 1 Commits in 3 straight decent classes, and will have 20+ commits on each team. With the players and talent they have had in the 21,22, and 23 class I think they are crushing recruiting. Remember, recruiting isn't about a logo, its about getting your son/daughter to a place they will play, enjoy and graduate with a set up future.

That is the sales pitch they are using. In fairness, so is every other club. I am of the opinion that non NLF clubs will likely never have a high level ACC recruit. Because lax is structured on tiers with the creation of the NLF and NLF member clubs seem just attract the best talent.

Just look at all last years 4 and 5 stars. Hence, picking the right club matters.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/2023-recruits-il-s-top-50-young-gun-junior-rankings/58405

Hence Duke does not make Tournament with that Roster.
NLF and Phony Prep schools like ST A , have more busts than top kids

What all the buzz these days about tryouts? Whos doing what?

No buzz. These rosters are mostly set and teams are looking for a few players. And with Igloo B, Viper, FLG all discontinued, plus Legrush White teetering you more players looking for less spots. And I doubt the big clubs will add a 3rd.

All of the "Inbetween" teams will probably benefit from the foreclosures of those other clubs. Tru Blue, Rebels, etc They will sift thru the rubble, start 2nd teams, etc

Rebels have an okay 2nd team and True Blue has 1.5 teams as they mix players like Legrush does. People seem to stick with True Blue, but the Legrush white parents I heard were disappointed with how it unfolded. They got 3 tourneys and one in Maryland was cxld by the club and the Red team went. A few already defected to ECE is what I heard and now ECE has a supplemental tryout. Maybe they form a 2nd team…In theory these mix and match setups sound good, but never work out and let’s be honest the A team players really have no desire playing on the B team.

I heard a few emailed Empire as well looking for a tryout.

Most teams will remain intact unless they folded and just add supplemental pieces.

Maybe they'll all follow the Igloo business model. Take 40 kids tell them they'll play in A and B tournaments. Once they get to a B tournament only A players see the field. If you question the penguin you'll get even less playing time. Once you figure out your A team isn't good, you'll basically quit on your team and make it someone else problem. I guess you're so busy fielding all those recruiting calls.

I can't speak on it personally but from everything I've seen on here it seems Igloo really left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. I haven't heard a single positive comment about Igloo. It's unfortunate for the boys on that team. Hopefully the program can make amends or the boys can find a better fit on another team. I wish them all good luck!

LegRush is trying to pull the same thing now with their B (White) team. Not going to work. Will just lax people off and send them looking for new homes halfway through the year.

Son played both Nike and UnderA. Nike was a lot better in 2025 and in 2024. Why the gap?

why cant we post on 2028 page

people need imho ask very specific questions before they pay. Again, these teams made from 1.5 teams never work. True Blue brought in players this summer at TrinStar and won a playoff game, then the Cat1 players left for Laxfest and True Blue2 got smacked in the championship. Really? Igloo cxld their project and Legrush is putting up the White team again. Okay, fine. Who are the coaches, how big is the roster, did they all commit, can I have refund if you don’t field a team, We will have our own practices. Will we have more than 3 tourneys in the summer...

People who are angry are more likely to post a negative comment than people who are happy posting a positive comment. All of the negative comments on igloo come from bitter parents whose kid either got cut or doesn’t get the playing time they think their kid deserves. Plenty of the parents are happy with the program. They don’t have a lot of turnover each year and that should say something. A lot of the kids have been on the team for many years.

No kids from the Flurry got cut. They got cxld. I have spoken to plenty of parents and they were not treated well. But yes, there are plenty of happy people at every club. The mark of a good club is when somebody leaves…that person enjoyed their time and would be open to returning. Anything short of that is a failure.

Are there any teams still looking for players?

Do you live in Suffolk or Nassau?

Nassau

In same position here, Nassau, looking for a team after tryouts