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Spoken like a true grifter. Just blowing it off, hoping it will all just go away. How about simply doing what’s right. Take_aWay what you may.

Not exactly to do with this chain but I saw legacy 24 play in 2 different games on Saturday as I was filming before/after other games and although I saw a ton of cross checks and yellow cards, this post goes out to the parents and the coach. I haven’t heard that much complaining, yelling at the ref, yelling at the opposing girls, etc… in some time.
Point of unsolicited advice for parents of legacy, this is the year that wins don’t matter at all. Your daughter won’t get recruited differently if they lose, tie, or win if they are already on competitive teams. All of that complaining is only going to drive college coaches away faster than the team earns yellow cards

I got to see 2 different halves of legacy games while helping a friend in Dallas tape some footage and the girls looked good but way to aggressive hence the multiple yellow cards each game. My comments aren’t about the girls though, they are about the parents and the coach who embarrassed themselves in front of the college coaches that were there. I was filming near the coaches and every time I heard a parent or the hc yell out to the ref, the opposing girls, or just some rant about another yellow card the coaches took a note.
Please remember that this is a recruiting year, so keep your mouths shut and support the girls in a positive way

Well said, accurate too.

He’s always been a nut job his kids are good though so they should be ok

The rankings still aren’t accurate still too little of a data pool

Rankings mean nothing, it’s recruiting time and the college coaches recruit from all over… pound your chest all you want about meaningless rankings then watch when the college coaches from the best college programs take players from all over the country many of who play for lower ranked teams.

Someone seems mad that their YJ team was ranked below Legacy. You need to calm down. We all know the best girls go to the best programs. Facts are that Legacy has more top players than YJ B and C teams. Just keep in mind that your daughter wasn’t good enough to make the YJ A team who is ranked 4th in the country. Perspective

Legacy is not good. And 7 yellow cards vs Heros in Dallas. Coaches won’t like that.

Some ranking will be used to get invites for this years elite 8 tourney on sept 1. Right now I see monster at 9. That can’t stay. They are a top 5 team. Steps plays nobody at any tournament and is ranked ahead. Don’t see NEMS in the top brackets either.
Yj weiner
Monster
M&D
Heros
Fla Select
Team 180
Ct Grizzlies
Are top 7 and not in that order. 8th spot should be up for grabs and not sure who deserves it.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.

100% not true....tons of coaches at 23 games. one team who was not top had at least 30 there ...so Schools are taking their time this year. They felt completely rushed with the 22s. Plenty of spots for D! programs and they are still committing girls daily....so stop with that nonsense already.[/quote

Top schools are out of money. Top players are committed. Some pwo spots or mid to lower D1 will still be looking.

there are def some that are not committing anymore...but its not over

Some schools may be done or close to being done with 23’s some are still looking to fill their 23 class. Most will also wait until after upcoming college season ends to see who enters the transfer portal before closing out the class. There are definitely spots available and we will also see some players change their commitment.

Also remember, schools will always look for top quality girls who aren't looking for $$

I disagree with the if you’re good you’ll be found statement. If you’re not out into a situation where coaches will see you they won’t know who you are. That’s why you see girls flocking to teams with a grade above them that does well with recruiting and why teams like YJ are going strong for so many years. A clubs reputation gets them into better events, they have more rapport with coaches, and coaches are more likely to see them play

Actually top teams like YJ, recruit about 5-6 girls to the most coveted schools. The rest may get recruited, but there is a big drop off. If your daughter does not start and contribute significantly, she is not in that top 5.

—- “Top schools are out of money. Top players are committed. Some pwo spots or mid to lower D1 will still be looking.” —-

So typical, why post this? There are many DI programs still trying to fill their class as well as all DII & DIII programs.

Of course the majority of the strongest players are committed and as far as programs being out of money well, there is very little money to begin with.

Your post was transparent.

yes this is so true. parents should read this quote a few times and start doing some proactive things for their kids. having a JY uniform on does not mean you are automatically getting recruited and it also doesnt mean that YJ will do any of the leg work to help get you recruited. YJ focus is on the A team AND only the top 5 or 6 on the A team because they know that those are the girls that will commit to a top 10 school which makes it look good for the JY program

Kids on YJ Ramos will also get good looks. Other than that, I'd head to an A team at legacy, jesters, or TG if you can make it. They have credibility with recruiting.

Prime Time scores posted yet??

yes this is so true. parents should read this quote a few times and start doing some proactive things for their kids. having a JY uniform on does not mean you are automatically getting recruited and it also doesnt mean that YJ will do any of the leg work to help get you recruited. YJ focus is on the A team AND only the top 5 or 6 on the A team because they know that those are the girls that will commit to a top 10 school which makes it look good for the JY program[/quote]

NO ONE is doing the legwork for your kid to get recruited except YOU and your kid. Do not rely on any coach, coordinator or director at ANY club to spearhead your child’s recruiting You must teach your child how to market herself (at camps and on social media) and how to advocate for herself ( with good film and emails to coaches). Which team you are on only gets you so far. No matter how great a reputation a club has the director or coordinator can only do so much and there are a ton of girls looking for the directors help. Be proactive. Look at naviance and college board and create a list of schools then look at the lacrosse programs and see if she can realistically play their. Send your emails and film always Keep your coach and director in the loop

This is so untrue. Yes those kids will g wet looked at but if you aren’t on any of those teams you 100% can still be recruited to a top school. They don’t just need a YJ player FYI.

President's Cup and Thanksgiving took a toll on my energy level, but all things considered it was a good week. Anyone know where it will be next year? Hopefully, not California (long haul), and back on the East Coast.

NO ONE is doing the legwork for your kid to get recruited except YOU and your kid. Do not rely on any coach, coordinator or director at ANY club to spearhead your child’s recruiting You must teach your child how to market herself (at camps and on social media) and how to advocate for herself ( with good film and emails to coaches). Which team you are on only gets you so far. No matter how great a reputation a club has the director or coordinator can only do so much and there are a ton of girls looking for the directors help. Be proactive. Look at naviance and college board and create a list of schools then look at the lacrosse programs and see if she can realistically play their. Send your emails and film always Keep your coach and director in the loop[/quote]

Sound advice.

There are a very limited number of players who will attract the attention of the coaches at the Top 10 - 20 college programs. These are the players that don’t have to market themselves, the coaches watch the players play and the proactively reach out to the player. For most , the player I needs to be proactive in
Marketing themselves to college coaches. Do not believe the mantra “if you are good the college coaches will find you”. That may be true for the elite athletes but not for the majority of players.

- Identify target schools
- develop a plan to market yourself to coaches
- Identify influencers / trusted advisors.. people who can reach out to college coaches… Club Coach, Club Director, HS Coach, current players / former players at the school that you / your daughter might know etc… who are willing to reach out and put in a good word / ask the coaches to take a look.
- Be persistent (don’t be a pest) things change, coaches do not get all of the players that they want, they are consistently revising their list and prioritizing players.
- if your daughter receives interest from programs that she is not interested in look for similar caliber programs at schools she might be interested in. For the most part, birds of a feather… for the most part the recruiting process will tell you what level the player is most likely at.
- Coaches want players who want to go to their school and play for their program.

Some of you *do* realize entire coaching staffs were down there? So teams likely had representatives at both the 23s AND 24s, right?

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?

Seems like one coach really needs it to be a big deal that her club went to Dallas.

Seems like more were at the two MD showcases in the Fall

Go to the tournaments social media or coach list it tells you you bafoon

Its one coaches mission to make everyone feel that her is elite because they went to Dallas.

Oh boy here we go again. Your grudge is so transparent and ridiculous. There are dozens of posts on here about coaches being on sidelines in Dallas. It isn’t just one team it’s all of the teams that attended grow up

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend[/quote]

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?[/quote]

Seems like more were at the two MD showcases in the Fall[/quote]

Its one coaches mission to make everyone feel that her is elite because they went to Dallas.[/quote]

Can y'all just stop with the coach bashing? It's getting OLD.

Oh because they put it on their website then that means they all went. you are right i am a bafoon

There were nearly 700 coaches there. There were many at 23s and 24s. The narrative that they weren’t at 24s is an agenda being pushed by clubs whose teams didn’t attend[/quote]

700. How long did it take you to count all of them ?[/quote]

Go to the tournaments social media or coach list it tells you you bafoon[/quote]

Oh because they put it on their website then that means they all went. you are right i am a bafoon[/quote]

No need to call anyone names, but if you go to the IWLCA instagram they state that they had "over 600 coaches". Whatever the final number was, there were a ton of coaches at Presidents Cup. There is no denying that.

Everybody knows that it's a money nothing new there. Nothing to with my kid or your kid. Just stating that whoever said there no coaches there he/she was definitely not there. Now you can both see the light.

Nope. Just a hater. If you went you would have seen the coaches on your daughters sideline. If you weren’t there it doesn’t matter then.

Thank you for the clarity.
Not sure why some people on here keep pushing the importance of something that has already happened.

It does mean they went? They sign up and that’s how they get added to the list.