BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Girls 2024-10th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022

Your not a parent lol , you sure sound like a disgruntled parent . The Bandits A team played A bracket tournament
S all year , Crossfire played B every tournament. 11 Bandits players and 11 Crossfire players makes up the new team. I’m sure your friend ( air quotes ) will listen to your wisdom . You sure know a awful lot about a program and games they played for someone being informed by a friend . You sound completely foolish and you clearly are a disgruntled parent with a grudge .

Re:2024- YJ, A and B seem to play at a higher level. A was 6th amd B at 15th. C has some good players but maybe the forgotten child. Have heard of roving eyes by some of the players. 1 or 2 moving to a new org and not sure about the rest. There was surely a lot of kicking of tires. Despite being ranked in top 40, it’s tough being the 3rd team. And don’t forget D. Tryouts should be interesting as always but surely they have the teams picked already.
Legacy and Liberty seem to play at a second tier and both rank between 20 and 30. Liberty has added at least one or two players from other top 50 teams.
Despite historically being a competitive org, Top Guns(2024) is struggling. Maybe a change at the top will stop the bleeding. Rumors of several players moving on but maybe at least one from YJ. B or C.
Elevate was 51 but may have lost a few more decent players. Seems like a trend for 2024 the last 2 years after having pretty good team at one point.

As far as the rest, …Big Drop off and last year they all seemed to play or be ranked all as lower level teams. No significant additions but maybe some juggling of a few players.
91 was lower ranked at 116 but kept all of its top players while merging with bandits so maybe they surprise? A lot has been written about the past and present problems over there so we will see.

I’ve heard of a few of these clubs struggling and adding new coaches to stop the bleeding. But, It could be like putting lipstick on a pig ? Maybe one or two orgs having significant problems with 2024. Maybe a brand new start up forming as another option? We will see.

All of these clubs(top to bottom) have warts and have heard a steady flow of complaints. Bottom line is coaching and training is probably most important. Your kid needs game reps to get better and also be seen. No fun playing in a toxic environment or sitting on the bench!! But you don’t want to join a ramshackle club that takes your money but doesn’t practice or has issues at the top. Stay away from parent coaches and bad politics. You need a coach that is going to advocate for your daughter and not just worry about themselves. Sadly, Sometimes you don’t know til you get there.

2024 is a crucial year. Some advice to anyone picking a club.
Do your research and ask questions. Go to a practice or game unannounced and watch,,see who’s running it and how the coaches talk to the girls. How does the coach present themselves and are they a good role model?. What is the coaches experience with Women’s lacrosse? and dealing with college coaches and recruiting? Parent coaches are generally a problem. So, ask who the head coach is? Who are the assistant coaches? if they are parents,, what position does their daughter play?
If it’s a new coach, ask what happened to the last coach and why were they were replaced? And where did the new coach come from and why did she leave their last job?
Training, professional coaching and field time is most important.
You are paying a lot of money so don’t be afraid to ask too many questions. An educated consumer is going to make smart decisions.

This is so accurate. If you actually want to know what’s going on you have to see it for yourself

How do you find out upcoming showcase opportunities and tryouts for things like under armor

How do you find out upcoming showcase opportunities and tryouts for things like under armor

BOTC will sometimes have them listed under EVENTS

I also get emails for various upcoming showcases and my daughter's coach will mention certain ones to her.

I’m a little confused why people are playing for low tier clubs with no recruiting connections and parent coaches. For example: how or why do people still play for recon, shore 2 shore, FLG, and 91? Even if you look at their train of recruits there is no notable schools. There is a reason most lose their talent to better programs as they get older.

I’m genuinely curious why parents choose to stick by those programs.

Not every player is looking to play in college. i know girls on these teams who play because they enjoy the game and the camaraderie. For some, this is their second sport/activity and but their primary.

supposed to read “not their primary.” darn autocorrect

I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.

I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.

I think the concern is more so for the talented kids who didn’t move teams yet who are still on those rosters. Wasting their potential with clubs that can’t do anything for them.

Look at their 2022 commitments to see how good they are at potentially showcasing your daughter. 91 is not a program that will get her any looks or help with recruiting at all. They have 5 commits from 2 teams at 2022 - all to schools a decent HS player can just walk on anyway. Players need to be seen by Coaches who attend the top tournaments - there are probably 4-5 during the summer that most Coaches attend and 91 is never there.

Look at their 2022 commitments to see how good they are at potentially showcasing your daughter. 91 is not a program that will get her any looks or help with recruiting at all. They have 5 commits from 2 teams at 2022 - all to schools a decent HS player can just walk on anyway. Players need to be seen by Coaches who attend the top tournaments - there are probably 4-5 during the summer that most Coaches attend and 91 is never there.

So showcases don’t matter? No matter what club a child plays on if they are good and the talent is there they will be known or seen! I have known many of kids who have played for the top clubs, a lot just on the roster never seeing the field and never touched the field in college. So does just wearing the gear get your child a scholarship and playing time? I have also known children who could have been on the A team at the top clubs but chose to go with a different club because of the coaching and not wanting to deal with the politics and guess what they all got d1 scholarships and actually played in college. I will say it’s obvious that the top club attracts top players but that does not mean they are the only top kids looked at! They have more exposure from a big club but talent will get you the best exposure! Go where your child is happy and fits. That’s where they will excel and do their best. That’s the end goal happy children not happy fathers living through their kids!

Top guns black is officially not even in the top 50. How did this happen ?

Yellow jackets d team is only ranked 5 below them.

That will change this fall. Team much improved at exactly the right time

That will change this fall. Team much improved at exactly the right time

Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

You're right... come fall, Yellow Jackets D will be ranked ahead of TG, where they belong

Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. The top three girls went to Kildare, Liberty, and Jesters and the goalie also to Kildare.

Elevate 2024 is done. Every decent and good player left the team. They have about 4 kids on the top team who were on it last year. They have no goalie, and I would not be surprised if elevate falls apart within the next year or two. .

Jesters and Liberty are likely going to be much stronger this year with some of the pick ups they both made. Only issue liberty will have is a roster size that is too big

Jesters and Liberty are likely going to be much stronger this year with some of the pick ups they both made. Only issue liberty will have is a roster size that is too big

Stop it!!!

No they didnt

Who did they pick up?

Jesters and Liberty are likely going to be much stronger this year with some of the pick ups they both made. Only issue liberty will have is a roster size that is too big

Where did they go?

That top guns team got one good kid this year… a draw girl but the team can’t survive on one strong player. Weak defense and a weak attack with a normal skilled keeper