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Who was at Express tryouts? About 100 kids there.
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Not the most accurate count but I very close estimate is 90 something.
Hopefully they will only have two teams, so they can concentrate on player development and overall lacrosse IQ for the B team.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Who was at Express tryouts? About 100 kids there.
Any opinions?

Not the most accurate count but I very close estimate is 90 something.
Hopefully they will only have two teams, so they can concentrate on player development and overall lacrosse IQ for the B team.

Have you watched the B team play? They have no offense, their midfield has no concept of how to play defensive, they have no slide package and they don’t know how to clear the ball.

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Who was at Express tryouts? About 100 kids there.
Any opinions?

Over under express 4k tuition ?

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How was LEGACY turnout ?

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Who was at Express tryouts? About 100 kids there.
Any opinions?

Over under express 4k tuition ?

Over

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How was LEGACY turnout ?
Less than 40. Most helmets were existing players. Seems this organization is falling off the radar for this age. Shame. Good coaches and organization.

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Who was at Express tryouts? About 100 kids there.
Any opinions?

Over under express 4k tuition ?

Over

Making decisions on convenience and a few $100 in cost will cause you to make the wrong decisions in my opinion

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Current National ranking is 149, but they are 19th in NY. You have a record of 15-18-1.

If you believe in these rankings you must also believe that One day Coach C will put your kids on his A team. Just not happening especially with his new holdbacks and 90 mile commuter kids. You should of made the move!

LI holdbacks? Say it aint so!!!????

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Who was at Express tryouts? About 100 kids there.
Any opinions?

Over under express 4k tuition ?

Over

Making decisions on convenience and a few $100 in cost will cause you to make the wrong decisions in my opinion

Agreed. I am not on LI, but we drive our son an hour each way to his practices. Not much in our area. Couldn't be happier. 100% his decision with that time commitment.

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Thoughts on Shore 2 Shore tryout yesterday?

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and a new #1 - sorry Sweetlax

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Who was at Express tryouts? About 100 kids there.
Any opinions?

Not the most accurate count but I very close estimate is 90 something.
Hopefully they will only have two teams, so they can concentrate on player development and overall lacrosse IQ for the B team.

Have you watched the B team play? They have no offense, their midfield has no concept of how to play defensive, they have no slide package and they don’t know how to clear the ball.
Do you answer your own questions at home as well? Makes it much easier on your wife I bet.

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are we saying that the legacy tryout isn't good because most of their kids want to stay with their team? and that they may look at some other kids to fill holes etc? with, I think that is a sign of a solid team, not a bad sign.

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

Rankings last updated Jul 28, 2021 - 1 LI Express CoachC (2026)

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No the coaches, parents and kids are all complacent! Legacy 2026’s are a team of the past. 6-23 to date and ranked 124 by US ClubLax. Heroes to zeros in a very short period of time. Most 2026 Long Island teams have progressed, but not Legacy. Can’t improve unless you practice and play and that wasn’t in Zumo’s playbook this season. Tryouts were mostly existing Legacy kids. Obviously not a lot of interest to join the team. Heard 2025 Legacy and Rush merging? Stay tuned.

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Who was at Express tryouts? About 100 kids there.
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which Express. North or LI? North had 2 games (so that is 44) with another 20-30 subbing in. I was shocked by the number of kids. Talk was that there was going to be 3 teams. There A team is good but B is poor (compared to other historic B teams) No idea how they could justify a C team.

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

Tigers, Towerman, Express North and Hawks have all beaten LIE this season. Parity folks and the algorithm is flawed. That being said, LIE had the best season and should be #1 IMHO but it’s not a disgrace for any of those teams to have been at the top. What is a disgrace is the national teams, all star teams and guest players/reclasses on teams chasing t shirts are all captured in these rankings. Sweet lax won a monster tourney with the deepest field, they can claim top dog until fall or even spring.

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Who was at Express tryouts? About 100 kids there.
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which Express. North or LI? North had 2 games (so that is 44) with another 20-30 subbing in. I was shocked by the number of kids. Talk was that there was going to be 3 teams. There A team is good but B is poor (compared to other historic B teams) No idea how they could justify a C team.

About 100 or just under for LI Express

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Current National ranking is 149, but they are 19th in NY. You have a record of 15-18-1.

If you believe in these rankings you must also believe that One day Coach C will put your kids on his A team. Just not happening especially with his new holdbacks and 90 mile commuter kids. You should of made the move!

LI holdbacks? Say it aint so!!!????

They’re not holdbacks. They’re kids that we’re playing up a year for their age and are finally coming back to play with their actual graduation year. Nice try though

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

Tigers, Towerman, Express North and Hawks have all beaten LIE this season. Parity folks and the algorithm is flawed. That being said, LIE had the best season and should be #1 IMHO but it’s not a disgrace for any of those teams to have been at the top. What is a disgrace is the national teams, all star teams and guest players/reclasses on teams chasing t shirts are all captured in these rankings. Sweet lax won a monster tourney with the deepest field, they can claim top dog until fall or even spring.

North played the entire NLF with non-rostered, overaged kids.

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

Tigers, Towerman, Express North and Hawks have all beaten LIE this season. Parity folks and the algorithm is flawed. That being said, LIE had the best season and should be #1 IMHO but it’s not a disgrace for any of those teams to have been at the top. What is a disgrace is the national teams, all star teams and guest players/reclasses on teams chasing t shirts are all captured in these rankings. Sweet lax won a monster tourney with the deepest field, they can claim top dog until fall or even spring.

It is the top three of Sweetlax Tigers LI Express and a huge gap below

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are we saying that the legacy tryout isn't good because most of their kids want to stay with their team? and that they may look at some other kids to fill holes etc? with, I think that is a sign of a solid team, not a bad sign.
This doesn’t even make sense. Solid team? It means that there’s typically 20-25 kids on a team…so less than 20 “new” faces wanting to go to those tryouts. That’s a bad sign. No one is clamoring to go to legacy. They also lost players after the season so there’s even bigger holes now.

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

Tigers, Towerman, Express North and Hawks have all beaten LIE this season. Parity folks and the algorithm is flawed. That being said, LIE had the best season and should be #1 IMHO but it’s not a disgrace for any of those teams to have been at the top. What is a disgrace is the national teams, all star teams and guest players/reclasses on teams chasing t shirts are all captured in these rankings. Sweet lax won a monster tourney with the deepest field, they can claim top dog until fall or even spring.

It is the top three of Sweetlax Tigers LI Express and a huge gap below

Huge gap below? Hawks beat all of those team and Towermen beat two of them and took the third to OT.

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

Tigers, Towerman, Express North and Hawks have all beaten LIE this season. Parity folks and the algorithm is flawed. That being said, LIE had the best season and should be #1 IMHO but it’s not a disgrace for any of those teams to have been at the top. What is a disgrace is the national teams, all star teams and guest players/reclasses on teams chasing t shirts are all captured in these rankings. Sweet lax won a monster tourney with the deepest field, they can claim top dog until fall or even spring.

It is the top three of Sweetlax Tigers LI Express and a huge gap below

Huge gap below? Hawks beat all of those team and Towermen beat two of them and took the third to OT.

Cool story

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are we saying that the legacy tryout isn't good because most of their kids want to stay with their team? and that they may look at some other kids to fill holes etc? with, I think that is a sign of a solid team, not a bad sign.
This doesn’t even make sense. Solid team? It means that there’s typically 20-25 kids on a team…so less than 20 “new” faces wanting to go to those tryouts. That’s a bad sign. No one is clamoring to go to legacy. They also lost players after the season so there’s even bigger holes now.

I agree. Just don’t get what happened to this team and why they’ve had a mass exodus. Anyone have any info ?

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

Tigers, Towerman, Express North and Hawks have all beaten LIE this season. Parity folks and the algorithm is flawed. That being said, LIE had the best season and should be #1 IMHO but it’s not a disgrace for any of those teams to have been at the top. What is a disgrace is the national teams, all star teams and guest players/reclasses on teams chasing t shirts are all captured in these rankings. Sweet lax won a monster tourney with the deepest field, they can claim top dog until fall or even spring.

It is the top three of Sweetlax Tigers LI Express and a huge gap below

Huge gap below? Hawks beat all of those team and Towermen beat two of them and took the third to OT.

Wrong. Hawks beat LIE and Tigers this year. Didn’t play sweetlax. Towermen beat sweetlax and LIE coachC.

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

Tigers, Towerman, Express North and Hawks have all beaten LIE this season. Parity folks and the algorithm is flawed. That being said, LIE had the best season and should be #1 IMHO but it’s not a disgrace for any of those teams to have been at the top. What is a disgrace is the national teams, all star teams and guest players/reclasses on teams chasing t shirts are all captured in these rankings. Sweet lax won a monster tourney with the deepest field, they can claim top dog until fall or even spring.

It is the top three of Sweetlax Tigers LI Express and a huge gap below

Huge gap below? Hawks beat all of those team and Towermen beat two of them and took the third to OT.

Cool story

Have to agree with the PP, Hawks and Towermen could not even make semi finals at NLF National Championship and World Series to play these elite teams. Both are ranked behind True. Would be indecent to bring up World Series qualifier (someone did not qualify cough cough), Naptown or Millon results.... cough cough hairballs

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

Tigers, Towerman, Express North and Hawks have all beaten LIE this season. Parity folks and the algorithm is flawed. That being said, LIE had the best season and should be #1 IMHO but it’s not a disgrace for any of those teams to have been at the top. What is a disgrace is the national teams, all star teams and guest players/reclasses on teams chasing t shirts are all captured in these rankings. Sweet lax won a monster tourney with the deepest field, they can claim top dog until fall or even spring.

It is the top three of Sweetlax Tigers LI Express and a huge gap below

Huge gap below? Hawks beat all of those team and Towermen beat two of them and took the third to OT.

Cool story

Have to agree with the PP, Hawks and Towermen could not even make semi finals at NLF National Championship and World Series to play these elite teams. Both are ranked behind True. Would be indecent to bring up World Series qualifier (someone did not qualify cough cough), Naptown or Millon results.... cough cough hairballs

Towermen didn’t go to NLF ya fool. And they beat 2 of the the number 1 and 2 ranked teams this summer and lost to number 3 and 4 in OT. But some folks with kids on weaker teams somehow still don’t think they belong in the conversation. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

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When are you fools going to realize that rankings don’t mean squat. The only thing that matters for the high level kids is who is getting calls on Sept 1 of their junior year. If your club has a good track record with recruiting and your kid is legit, that’s all you need to worry about.

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that's a disgrace that they put sweetlax number 1, they beat the Express team once. pretty sad.

Tigers, Towerman, Express North and Hawks have all beaten LIE this season. Parity folks and the algorithm is flawed. That being said, LIE had the best season and should be #1 IMHO but it’s not a disgrace for any of those teams to have been at the top. What is a disgrace is the national teams, all star teams and guest players/reclasses on teams chasing t shirts are all captured in these rankings. Sweet lax won a monster tourney with the deepest field, they can claim top dog until fall or even spring.

It is the top three of Sweetlax Tigers LI Express and a huge gap below

Huge gap below? Hawks beat all of those team and Towermen beat two of them and took the third to OT.

Cool story

Have to agree with the PP, Hawks and Towermen could not even make semi finals at NLF National Championship and World Series to play these elite teams. Both are ranked behind True. Would be indecent to bring up World Series qualifier (someone did not qualify cough cough), Naptown or Millon results.... cough cough hairballs

Towermen weren’t at the NLF and I don’t believe that Sweetlax has played the Hawks in 2 years. Express North clearly playing with holdbacks and the same could be said about True National who is now #4 according to the recent rankings. Their scores show them playing in Lake George which is not a place you typically see a national team playing but to each their own. Perhaps they’ll test themselves at some more competitive events. LIE top ranking is well deserved and agree that with the top 3 stated earlier. Keep an eye on Towermen, who are solid now that they can play with their older kids. The holdback/reclass issue will be interesting to watch this fall and next summer to see it’s impact vs. legit on-age teams.

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When are you fools going to realize that rankings don’t mean squat. The only thing that matters for the high level kids is who is getting calls on Sept 1 of their junior year. If your club has a good track record with recruiting and your kid is legit, that’s all you need to worry about.

He/she/them is correct. Wins and losses on club teams esp. in middle school mean absolutely nothing. Play on the best team your kid has fun playing on and is getting plenty of reps and if the club has good recruiting director, even better.

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When are you fools going to realize that rankings don’t mean squat. The only thing that matters for the high level kids is who is getting calls on Sept 1 of their junior year. If your club has a good track record with recruiting and your kid is legit, that’s all you need to worry about.

He/she/them is correct. Wins and losses on club teams esp. in middle school mean absolutely nothing. Play on the best team your kid has fun playing on and is getting plenty of reps and if the club has good recruiting director, even better.

Of course you agree with your prior post. Care to share what winner club you represent, will bet you are not in the mentioned group above? Results reflect coaching and development and why LIE is #1.

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When are you fools going to realize that rankings don’t mean squat. The only thing that matters for the high level kids is who is getting calls on Sept 1 of their junior year. If your club has a good track record with recruiting and your kid is legit, that’s all you need to worry about.

He/she/them is correct. Wins and losses on club teams esp. in middle school mean absolutely nothing. Play on the best team your kid has fun playing on and is getting plenty of reps and if the club has good recruiting director, even better.

Of course you agree with your prior post. Care to share what winner club you represent, will bet you are not in the mentioned group above? Results reflect coaching and development and why LIE is #1.

Yes I posted the one about rankings meaning squat. My kid plays for a team ranked in the top 10 of the US club lax rankings. If you don’t agree with the post you are either a fool or trying to live thru your son.

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Take it from a parent with a 2026 kid and a kid playing mid level D1. In about 5 years you will all realize how silly you all sound. And if you think your kid needs a club program to get recruited, think again. Prospect camps and showcases will be the more likely path to an offer for most players. Good grades will open up many more doors so I would focus your energy on getting your son to read a book rather than a peeing war about whose club is better.

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You are being way too logical for this forum pal. Get lost.

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Towermen need their older kids to compete at the elite level which is why they didn’t originally qualify for the WS. It’s irrelevant now that the WS is over but they clearly need their holdbacks to be in this conversation. In fact, any team that plays with older reclassed kids should at least be comfortable admitting it vs. denying those players aren’t on their teams. They’re not breaking the rules but at least acknowledge it gives you a competitive advantage between 7th and 9th grade. Tends to even out afterwards.

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Enough with the holdback Derangement Syndrome. Give it a rest already snowflakes

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Towermen need their older kids to compete at the elite level which is why they didn’t originally qualify for the WS. It’s irrelevant now that the WS is over but they clearly need their holdbacks to be in this conversation. In fact, any team that plays with older reclassed kids should at least be comfortable admitting it vs. denying those players aren’t on their teams. They’re not breaking the rules but at least acknowledge it gives you a competitive advantage between 7th and 9th grade. Tends to even out afterwards.

Sour grapes

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Enough with the holdback Derangement Syndrome. Give it a rest already snowflakes

Welcome back Hawks dad, you've been quiet since July 2nd.

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