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Anyone seen Laxachusetts????????

Why does everyone keep saying the WSYL tournament is a joke? I understand a couple teams who have too many kids with summer birthdays could not attend (ie Crabs, Laxachusetts) and this year you won't get the Canadian teams (ie Edge) but otherwise the top clubs in the US Lax rankings (not WSYL rankings) qualified and will do well. So why is the competition not perceived as a good? You are either complaining about the NLF tournaments that allows "holdbacks" or stating the only non-holdback tournament is a joke. You can't have it both ways. The top teams go to both of those tournaments and the same 5-6 teams will end up at the top of both. So unless you think the local Long Island tournaments are the best I am at loss on why everyone keeps saying the WSYL is a joke.

Is Blatant Spring Jam still happening?
Is anyone privy to when the schedule will be released?

Sorry your kid isnt going

Most likely bc their kids team didn't enter, or didn't qualify. Not sure that Edge (or the version you are used to) would have been in the WSYL with all of their holdbacks.

The person saying it is a joke has a kid on team that didn’t make it. No need to defend the WSYL- it is a legit tournament that will be televised on ESPN.

Busy at drivers ed.

They are having a film session tonight to relive the glory days watch the 4th grade win over the Hawks.

Was a great come from behind win!

They same guy who is bashing WSYL will be same guy recording the championship and watching it over and over and over again.

Let’s see.....it’s actually quite simple . There are teams that went 1-4, yes you are reading it correctly 1-4 , meaning they won one game and lost 4 at the qualifiers and they still “qualified” for the wsyl? Reason is, nobody outside of the northeast cares about lacrosse so they couldn’t fill the brackets and let teams that went 1-4 go because they don’t have enough teams . That’s why it’s a joke . Because nobody cares about the wsyl especially across the country . So they should just name is the “northeast series of youth lacrosse “ not the World Series . You can’t let teams in that don’t belong there just to fill up the brackets and then expect people to take it seriously . Don’t waste your time.

Lol, nobody watches the wsyl that’s why it had a hard time staying alive and almost got shut down already, no sponsors. Only you and your wife watch it fool

What teams got in without a winning record?

You are incorrect. Check the WSYL website. All records and scores are posted.

The WSYL is one of the highest watched programs on ESPN.

haha, sadly, I remember watching it when it first started when my oldest kid was 7-8.

Any word on this tournament? I'm curious as well

For the 2025 year there is a 1-4 team advancing. Check your facts

Who cares? 25's shouldn't even be there

What are YOU doing to grow the game? Apparently not much. WSYL is trying to grow the game. Which means that you need to expand your base outside of the LI and Baltimore area. So yes, you will see weaker teams in the tournament because the goal is to get all teams from all around the country to participate.

I was hoping to see the TommyKnockers and Laxaxchusetts

3D new england took it to both tommyknockers and laxachusetts. big summer for them, dont see them losing

3D NE players will have their driver's licenses this summer so should be able to make it wicked fast to all the big tournaments.

Lots of negatively on this forum. Let’s let the kids play and have fun and get better. If you don’t like the coach, either deal with it, quit, or find a new team. If you don’t like the rules, either deal with it, quit, or get involved and try to make the rules better. If you don’t like another team them beat them or shut up.

They should have played in the 2025 WSYL qualifiers

When?

That is what the Mohicans did. Their 2026 squad played in 14u (2025) qualifier and lost by 1 goal in championship game. Advanced to 14U WSYL

The WSYL is not a joke for 1 reason and 1 reason only. It's a level playing field. Who cares what region the teams come from play the games. Hopefully the clubs adhere to the age requirements and true 2026 kids will play against true 2026 kids. The NLF and all of these other tournaments do not have age requirements, The WSYL does. I'm not going to sit here and cry about holdbacks because that is what the game is now. IMHO all teams and tournaments should go by US Lacrosse age rules but that's not going to happen because that doesn't make money. 9/1/07 - 8/31/08..........

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I agree. The holdback parents will often say things like “there isn’t an age requirement in high school so get used to it.” I would say that when boys enter HS most have reached puberty. In middle school, however, you have some holdback kids who are 160 pounds playing against some on age kids who are 80 pounds. You will still have a few huge on age kids, and age based isn’t a perfect system, but keeps it as level as possible.

Who's going to be at Spring Jam next weekend? It's not on tourney machine yet...

Awsome job blatant on town tourney sat. Was great to get back to almost normal.

question for folks on the most highly competitive teams.
how are games coached? are players allotted equal playing time or do the top players play more in competitive game?
is winning a high priority or is it playing everyone and giving everyone their opportunity?
are players coached to their skill set, meaning do they have particular roles or is it coached like a post camp all star team, roll the ball out and rotate players (staying within their respective positions) thru regardless of situations?
how is game IQ taught and developed? Is true game coaching, situational coaching and substituting being used/taught? are games coached like a HS/college game?

My son is on a highly competitive team. It is coached very similar to HS/College whereas players know their roles and players are put on the field for specific situations. Playing time is definitely not equal and the coach definitely plays each game to win. I'd say all of the kids do play in games unless it's a close game but at least 1/3 of the team sees less than 5 or 6 minutes a game. In my opinion the game IQ comes from being out there and seeing the field while having the kids play corrected when a mistake is made or a better option was available.

IQ comes from coaching, playing, and watching high level lacrosse. Even better if the player can watch college games on TV with someone who can explain the nuances of the game.

Between this and the MD thread there is close to 500 pages of parents yammering about who's better in 12-14 year old lacrosse. I would say winning is important for many

Has anyone seen the Blatant tournament 26 teams ? It’s definitely a B bracket which i understand, good luck to all the kids and teams that entered. My question is how is 91 A team playing in a B bracket ? Wow , that’s all i can say . Can they actually feel good about playing that schedule and winning 🤦‍♂️ Play up ! Challenge yourself. Igloo coaches i give you credit..stepping up to 25 A ..those 91 parents are clueless spending that money for that product

What are you talking about that’s the correct tournament and bracket for that team !!

Why are you the same guy on here trolling 91 all the time? You keep coming on here sounding like a little female dog! Yes, you are an Igloo dad who lost to 91 and are looking to get some credit for playing "up" in a 2025 B bracket in this tourney. The 2025B bracket is a joke also. 91 entered this tourney a long time ago and doesn't control who entered. You should be happy not to lose to 91 again.

Maybe people can just appreciate having a nice weekend tournament on Long Island. It’s great getting to play on the island. No I’m not a 91 parent. Kids just want to play. They really don’t give a c rap about brackets or running to Delaware hoping yo play Hawks or Crabs or whatever. All been there done that Couple of trips here and there with nice venues is fun. Staying in places with nothing stinks. Whatever happened to making it a nice weekend for all? Ocean City ,Cape Cod, Hershey,Placid, do it right. Jersey?wt f