BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021

Huh??? Not sure where you were trying to go with this, but it seems your point may have been lost.

This is the definition of white privilege and systematic racism. Rich white parents gaming a system that ultimately takes opportunities away from the underprivileged.

Not quite lost. I am a minority and my kids play the sport and there is no racism that I have ever encountered. I've actually been given more opportunities than my friends kids.

I'd love to see a HBO sports or something like that about the white privilege lacrosse holdback system and how the other sports all go by year. Where and how it started and how people justify it. "I'm giving my son a better chance to get a college scholarship!". How about get your son to work harder like everyone else before you go the lori loughlin route.

The difference is that what Lori Loughlin did was illegal. Some may question the ethics of the "holdback" but no law against it.

As if black kids don't (1) get held back and (2) get scholarship money from private schools. This has zero to do with racism (pretend "systemic" or otherwise) and everything to do with what sports are popular with different kids in different areas. Is it "systemic racism" that gets great black basketball players recruited by top end prep schools in greater numbers than white kids?

Around here there are many black kids who grew up in the area where lacrosse is seen as "cool". Those kids play and are given every opportunity (plus some extras ones with programs meant to "grow the game").

Age based youth lacrosse and holdbacks need not be thought of as mutually exclusive. I don't care what grade in school a kid is, or when he or she plans on graduating HS and/or entering college, so long as they play in youth events against kids their own age. College hockey at the D1 level, for instance, has mostly "older" student athletes, yet hockey at the youth level is competed on a BY basis.

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This is played out

Played out is an under statement! If parents elect to hold their kids back in order to get a leg up in the lax recruiting circuit, more power to them. But leave the "dead horse" alone in it's grave, beating it any further will not change a thing. I've always said, lax parents an odd bunch

What is going on with Under Armor on Oct 17/18. Does anyone know how they are doing this? Do i have it right that all regions except us have played?

You are wrong. The reason lacrosse will never be more than a "country club sport" as you put it is there are no full scholarships. Most parents won't go in 100% for all the travel and club fees because a Football, Basketball player can get a full scholarship vs a few grand on average. On top of that there is the potential for careers on the sport as well as hockey so how is a sport with no financial future directly tied to play cutting out a ton of the population when they can play other sports and get free college if they are good enough.

The North regional will be played right there at the Final tourn before

The reason lacrosse is a "country club sport" beside the lack of scholarships is that in the pal or towns team like football, most towns, you're given all the equipment to play when you sign up for a reasonable price. And travel cost 3K - 4K . Lacrosse, you have to supply the helmet, stick, the shoulder pads, elbow pads and any other equipment you need...HS gives you the helmet and a uniform. When my son started to play, there were only a few spots around me where I could get the equipment...now at least you can get starter at Dicks, even some Walmarts.

The game must be grown to lower the cost of initiation agreed. Have to support those who are growing this great game.

RE: UA. So we play two games on Saturday morning to decide the North winner and then winner moves on later on Saturday to play South East and West the same day? So strange, so 2020

No one cares!

yeah, also they probably picked the kids through fake video submissions.

Grouchy - my son did not make it either

Tryouts this year were sham. 6-8 teams to evaluate. 30 guys on each team. just thrown together for games. no evaluations drills. head spinning...

Did the undisputed boys showcase take place this year?

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Has any coach given any real feedback regarding the Fall tourneys, showcases, etc . . My sons coach has said they they will have zero impact since coaches cant attend. Curious what others have been told.

Any non-campus showcase is normally shaky. Now without coaches? A social media hype bubble.

My son's team is going down to Maryland for a recruiting tournament that's useless. More $$ to fork out during covid.

Turtles look great !!

dense Meanyfocus on your own team and stop trying to find ways to make your soap opera life interesting

What LI teams are going down to Maryland tournaments?

The truth is that only D1 schools are not attending showcases in person, D2 and D3 are, so maybe not such a waste of time. Also the tournaments and showcases get you more opportunities for game film, which may be important for reaching out to D1 coaches. Also, if your kid is seriously considering college lacrosse, why would they ever want to turn down an opportunity to play.

You forgot to mention the additional costs of hotel, eating out, gas, and most importantly it's going to be Virtual. I'm sure your kid is going to get a call from all the top D1 schools as a 10th grader.

1% is this weekend. Any feedback from prior attendees ?

This was the first year.

I think it is about getting game film which you should use to create a highlight reel to send to college coaches going into the summer.

Yeah, I can't wait to go down to Maryland to get some game film. Coach is clueless.

Just my 2 cents as a 2022 parent in recruitment...

The Fall 2020 film for a 2023 recruit will not matter. College coaches won’t care about this film since it’ll be a year old once you enter recruitment. The coaches will go off of summer 2020 Under Armour Underclass attendees, their future camp/clinic attendees once the dead period is lifted and top club rosters to build their initial 2023 lists. And of course watching them play live whenever that will be able to occur again. For the 2022 class they did build these initial lists when they watched them live during the Fall of 2019 but these lists changed significantly by the time Sept came. They don’t ever look back at this old Fall film a year later. And who even knows what the recruit landscape will look like Sept 2021 if the current dead period continues into winter 2021 and if the spring 21 college season is altered. They will grant another year to current College players and even current 21 & 22 commits will be competing for spots and scholarship money. It’s been a very unusual recruiting season for the 22’s and I can’t imagine how it will be like for the 23’s. The biggest determining factor for the 2022 class commits has been the relationship your club recruiting Director or high school coach has with the individual college coaches. And of course where you stand with your club recruiting director or high school coach. Choose your club and high school very carefully.

Don't disagree except for narrowing it down to UA. I think coaches are moving away from the event and moving towards Main Stage and Juniors Open. These events from 2020 had a massive impact for big time recruits in the 2022 class. I think these events in 2021 will be big for 2023.

Word is that coaches are really still focusing on 2021's. Then they still need to get to the bulk of the 2022's. Late summer and Fall 2021 will be key for 2023, not much until then. This virus has not been kind to these 3 recruiting classes.

It looks some fall cancellations or adjustments are slowly being made and COVID is about to wreck havoc on October /November lax. Just received email re the ID experience and bc Maryland just added to travel ban from NY they are trying to find a way to move things. Oye, the fun is about to begin bc folks wont wear masks!

Wearing a mask is so easy, why not just do it? Too many macho men and women. Sad because we are screwing our own kids.

Was that email from the IL ID folks and was it just to NY invitees? We are coming from PA and have not seen that email. I wouldn't be surprised as they had to move the UA games...

Good question. Don't know. We are from NY though so maybe that's the case.