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Yes but University of Arizona will be open. Cali system is run by state government and can just raise taxes to cover the shortfall. Private universities don’t have that option.

Message from Purdue President:
Purdue University, for its part, intends to accept students on campus in typical numbers this fall, sober about the certain problems that the COVID-19 virus represents, but determined not to surrender helplessly to those difficulties but to tackle and manage them aggressively and creatively. ...

Distance between people, that is, less density, is now the overriding societal imperative. It could be argued that a college campus will be among the most difficult places to reopen for previously regular activities.

But in other respects, a place like Purdue may be in better position to resume its mission. Our campus community, a “city” of 50,000+ people, is highly unusual in its makeup. At least 80% of our population is made up of young people, say, 35 and under. All data to date tell us that the COVID-19 virus, while it transmits rapidly in this age group, poses close to zero lethal threat to them.

Meanwhile, the virus has proven to be a serious danger to other, older demographic groups, especially those with underlying health problems. The roughly 20% of our Purdue community who are over 35 years old contains a significant number of people with diabetes, asthma, hypertension, and other ailments which together comprise a very high percentage of the fatal and most severe COVID-19 cases.

We will consider new policies and practices that keep these groups separate, or minimize contact between them. Literally, our students pose a far greater danger to others than the virus poses to them. We all have a role, and a responsibility, in ensuring the health of the Purdue community.

The approaches below are preliminary, meant to be illustrative of the objectives we will pursue. View them as examples, likely to be replaced by better ideas as we identify and validate them. They could include spreading out classes across days and times to reduce their size, more use of online instruction for on-campus students, virtualizing laboratory work, and similar steps. ...

We intend to know as much as possible about the viral health status of our community. This could include pre-testing of students and staff before arrival in August, for both infection and post-infection immunity through antibodies. It will include a robust testing system during the school year, using Purdue’s own BSL-2 level laboratory for fast results. Anyone showing symptoms will be tested promptly, and quarantined if positive, in space we will set aside for that purpose.

We expect to be able to trace proximate and/or frequent contacts of those who test positive. Contacts in the vulnerable categories will be asked to self-quarantine for the recommended period, currently 14 days. Those in the young, least vulnerable group will be tested, quarantined if positive, or checked regularly for symptoms if negative for both antibodies and the virus.

Again, these concepts are preliminary, intended mainly to illustrate an overall, data-driven and research-based strategy, and to invite suggestions for their modification or exclusion in favor of better actions. They will be augmented by a host of other changes, such as an indefinite prohibition on gatherings above a specified size, continued limitations on visitors to and travel away from campus, required use of face coverings and other protective equipment, frequent if not daily deep cleaning of facilities, and so forth.

Whatever its eventual components, a return-to-operations strategy is undergirded by a fundamental conviction that even a phenomenon as menacing as COVID-19 is one of the inevitable risks of life. Like most sudden and alarming developments, its dangers are graphic, expressed in tragic individual cases, and immediate; the costs of addressing it are less visible, more diffuse, and longer-term. It is a huge and daunting problem, but the Purdue way has always been to tackle problems, not hide from them.

Closing down our entire society, including our university, was a correct and necessary step. It has had invaluable results. But like any action so drastic, it has come at extraordinary costs, as much human as economic, and at some point, clearly before next fall, those will begin to vastly outweigh the benefits of its continuance. Interrupting and postponing the education of tomorrow’s leaders for another entire semester or year, is one of many such costs. So is permanently damaging the careers and lives of those who have made teaching and research their life’s work, and those who support them in that endeavor.

The COVID-19 virus will remain a fact of life this autumn. Natural immunity, which has been slowed by the shutdown, will not yet have fully developed. No vaccine can be counted on until 2021 at the soonest. It is unclear what course other schools will choose, but Purdue will employ every measure we can adopt or devise to manage this challenge with maximum safety for every member of the Boilermaker family, while proceeding with the noble and essential mission for which our institution stands.

Sincerely,

Mitchell E. Daniels, Jr.

President

Someone should send this letter to our Governor for consideration in opening the SUNY schools north of Westchester.

Mitch Daniels has done a great job at Purdue.

Then why doesn't he have Lax :-)

Manhasset moved from B to C conference.

And so it begins
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...se-program-amid-financial-concerns/56421

Finally! Now we can crush everybody.

If it wasn't already, C just got stronger and deeper than B...

WOW ! The Big programs will be fine..the rest, i suspect case by case basis.

No question. C is the place to be now !

I don’t know if all the big programs will be fine. Let’s face reality. Colleges are losing millions of dollars over this crisis. Lacrosse brings absolutely no revenue to a college. Networks don’t have bidding wars to televise a lax game. Maybe 2000 people attend the actual games, some of these stadiums seat 80 to 100,000 people. Some places don’t even charge for tickets. I hope this doesn’t happen, but colleges are businesses. People who need to cut costs running a business, non revenue parts of the business are the first to go.

I agree about losing part, But you could say the same thing just about any sport except Basketball and Football at most colleges.

Colleges are out of control with their spending. Sports isnt where the cuts are going to make a difference. When you have bureaucracy and salaries that most colleges offer, it is only a matter of time. Wonder how the NCAA soon allowing salaries to players will effect other sports budgets??

Start by clearing out the large administrations at these schools. Lots of salaries from $200-500k for some nonsense job.

while I hear you re revenue, I would love to see donations broken down by sport at the school by their alumni base. I am willing to wager that by in large lax programs are heavy donors and they have 40-50 players per team. I have always said this and thought this was a good impetus to grow the sport. Unfortunately I have never seen any study.

12.6 scholarships for a team so the majority pay full (yes I know about academic scholarships and financial aid) but in general lax players pay for their way to go to college and then if they donate in a large amount its fresh money for the school.

Who knows, this never happened before. Businesses all over the world will be trimming the fat. Lax at Furman was fat I guess. Is it fat at other schools too. I don’t know. If something is a not bringing in money, university presidents may have pressure to explain the value of varsity lacrosse. 12.6 scholarships could be 800 grand in expenses at some schools. Paying a coaching staff 400 grand is another expense. Kids traveling, hotel lodging, planes, trains, buses, food, etc another expense. School insurance for a contact sport is another expense. I’m sure there is other expenses we probably don’t know about. So the question is, if something cost say 3 to 4 million a year to operate and brings in zero or very little revenue, while the school is losing millions because of this virus, would it be surprising if other programs dismantled. I’d say not that surprising.

What's occurring at this moment is the reason why there isn't any substantial force at the collegiate level to grow the sport. Big money donors will always support revenue sports, where TV, merchandise rights, etc all come into play. NBA, NFL have their eyes on Duke basketball, LSU football, can care less about lax. Give Paul Rabil a few years to age. No longer will he be able to run around in his skinny jeans, and tight tee shirts, he will be come a thing of the past very quickly. Further, Lax will never become more than what it is now, period.

Lacrosse is a fun niche sport. Always has been and always will be. No matter how much we hear about " growing the game and diversity " . Has anyone seen the USL rag lately or even opened it? ..The Big " lets grow the game" is about filling different people,clubs and org pockets with money along with making them feel good . Frankly, the way it is set up now, it is almost like they want to take the fun out of it.

HS and college is where it is played. Not the pro's. Have fun while playing in youth, HS and if you are Lucky college.

Stony Brook Women's program next?

Women’s hoops cost the schools the most. Cut that, save a boatload of money

This attitude is silly. I cant imagine most parents or kids and especially colleges have even a scintilla of thought that lax is LSU football or Duke basketball. However, college is just not about football and basketball. If that was the case we wouldn't have baseball, crew. cross country, fencing, golf, hockey, soccer, water polo, field hockey, gymnastics, softball, swimming, wrestling, tennis, track & field, tennis etc. Most everyone does not think lax needs to be bigger or better however why begrudge those (Paul Rabil) who try. There is a place for it just like all of these other sports. Higher learning encompasses all aspects of education and that includes theater, band, choir, AND SPORTS etc . . Getting back to the sports I just mentioned, some may make money for their schools like Penn state wrestling or Utah gymnastics but for the most part they don't. Some of them have professional status to make millions - baseball, tennis, hockey golf, soccer, etc . . and others are just olympic based for the most part - swimming, track and field (yes, some can make millions, Phelps and Bolt and others). All in all I hope colleges embrace the smaller sports and I hope the Paul Rabil's of the world try to grow the game just like Phelps did with swimming. Believe it or not there is a world wide professional league for swimming. Are millions made no but people perform their craft bc they love it.

Thanks Paul ! Good Luck with those jeans !

That whole long post is very accurate. Without question. However what you seem to be forgetting or not mentioning,is what’s going on in today’s world. Tuitions this spring weren’t paid in full. Summer school tuition will not be paid. Fall tuition is a maybe. Room and board hasn’t been paid. Colleges are losing multiple millions of dollars. Cost cutting will be wide spread. Like Furman with baseball and lax. There will be more Furmans in the near future, unfortunately.

Isn't this a HS forum? Why did Manhasset move conferences? More competition??

Not in Nassau but getting off the island certainly won't be as easy.

Conference placement is based on school enrollment for boys. The girls have a power conference based on historical records. In the end the playoffs for both boys and girls are based on enrollment.

Can anyone confirm that? Where would I find the numbers?

NCAA screwed every high school class of 23, 22, 21, and 20 by allowing a 5th year of eligibility for ALL players in college NOT just seniors. This along with the hold backs makes the landscape extremely tilted.

we just have to roll with it

I would think very few players will stay at the same school for their 5th year.

Really? This has been the case for decades. Conferences are enrollment based.

Corrigan Sports, Under Armour All American Lacrosse Senior Game, Inside Lacrosse

I find it shameful that you all keep posting about all the underclass games and tournaments and the teams, and leaving the info on the websites acting like the Senior Game is still going on. NOT

It has been announced on the Under Armour website saying since June 1st that the UA Senior Game is cancelled. So let all the Seniors know that it's cancelled and not to get their hopes up. You have waited over a month and a half. The 2020's missed their season and you don't even show them some love, I guess since they cant make you anymore money off them you just don't care. So get your money from the thousand of kids that are coming to the underclass tournament.

Or they are to chicken to announce it, stop thinking about how to do it and just do it.

Check it out here

https://about.underarmour.com/news/2020/03/under-armour-coronavirus-responses-and-actions

Updated June 1 at 9:00 a.m.
UPDATE ON SUMMER 2020 GRASSROOTS EVENTS
Due to the ongoing and continued developments surrounding the coronavirus COVID-19, Under Armour has made the decision to cancel the following UA events:
2020 UA All-America Football Camp Series
UAA Workout in Bradenton, Fla. (IMG Academy)
UA Bigs Camp in Bradenton, Fla. (IMG Academy)
Ray Lewis 52 Camp in Bradenton, Fla. (IMG Academy)
Prime 21 Camp in Dallas, Texas
2020 UA All-American Lacrosse Game in Baltimore, Md.
2020 UA All-American Baseball Game in Baltimore, Md.
2020 UA Association Girls and Boys circuit

Due to the ongoing and continued developments surrounding the coronavirus COVID-19, Under Armour has made the decision to cancel, but the UNDERCALSS Tournament is bringing kids from all over the country amid all the developments. I forgot its the MONEY. They foot the bill for the seniors and the underclass pays.

JUNE 1st! Grow a set and announce it!


THIS IS SHAMEFUL

People in Maryland do not care that players from 50 states will be arriving in Maryland in two weeks
Maryland spike of over 900 new covid cases in last 24 hours, mostly younger people.
Lee Corrigan who runs UA underclass games and Steve Stenerson CEO of US Lacrosse are on MD reopening group.
Corrigan makes his money off the tryout fees and game.
US Lacrosse Makes money from Corrigan advertising.
There is no way they cancel, toooooo much $'s.
The IWLCA stood up to Corrigan but US Lac and Inside Lax will not because there is toooooo much $$$$$$$$$$$$'s.

Can’t we get a clear answer on everything including the fictitious tournaments being cancelled so all can move on with the summer and stay safe?

Most of the kids will Move. They are not going to just stay in College to Play Lacrosse.

You can’t travel out of state safely to any event with the virus infection rate being so high right now. Money needs to be put aside and focus on the health of our society. I heard they canceled the Connecticut tournament this weekend because of safety issues and reduced capacities at fields.

https://about.underarmour.com/news/2020/03/under-armour-coronavirus-responses-and-actions

They cancelled the senior game but they will not announce it. That's my issue they have no balls to announce it.



They are for sure having the underclass tournament.

yes they will

yes they will its already happening.