BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020

By the way, anybody know why 91 AA 2025 is not going to tri star. My guess is the bracket was intimidating? Or is it because it's not a dynamic sports owned tournament. Sad.

Rebels have just as good a shot as anyone else not named "Express." The real question is: which group of parents will decide it's worth spending thousands of dollars to leave Long Island in the summer to travel to Denver and lose by double digits to a team you've already lost to multiple times in Huntington, Uniondale, and Old Westbury?

Pretty Ballsy move. Maybe they will show up this weeked at Tristar. Either way, it doesnt matter . I heard they expanded this region to "anyone who will write a check and drink the KoolAide"

I understand it’s an unbelievable experience, and I will be watching. But you have to the judge if it’s worth it from individual standpoint. Not being a naysayer. But the decision tree is different based on which team your son is on. Honestly, and I know this frustrates people. If my son’s was not in a position to make a deep run at the tourney, as currently constructed, I would ask the club to find age eligible players from the 2024s. I feel if you are willing to make the investment in the trip, the club is obligated to use the rules and put the best team out there. I know what about the kids that get left off or lose playing time. This is an isolated event and has different rules. And my son and family are not going and have no plans to go.

91 will be in Delaware

Find age eligible players? Stop. How about save the money and enter 3 more local tournaments, And still save $5K!!! The kids get better by playing, not flying. The real tournament is the qualifiers. Hopefully they are selling t shirts there. Id rather spend $20 than $5000

Legacy bashing not from anyone that left for 91. Everyone still talks and won't be surprised if some try to get back now with Zummo and the Taz staff running the team. Bashers are the ones that left after and are upset no one stopped them from leaving

Express parent- Its Fall. CoachC is a salesmen. Once the checks all clear the same 14 will play come June. Sad the opposing team parents all know their names because that is all CoachC yells . Sure he will remember your kid when it comes to recruiting years....

World Series is up to 7 or 8 northeast teams this year.It is in a park not the stadium. If your team is going to make it not based on the strength of the 2025's great. If you are paying $10k just to watch 8th graders play over your kid you are warped and forget why your kid is supposed to be playing sports.

Why only 1 fall tournament?

Your wife must detest you!

Dont know. They do a winter box team too. Maybe less is more

They always did a winter box team. You pay extra for that.
Are they adding an extra tournament in the spring?
How many tourneys were the players promised?

Has 2025 Legacy changed coaches? Where is the old coach who was with them for years?

Legacy apparently just woke up after being asleep at the 2025 team's wheel for the past three years, first letting the crazy parents who left for 91 run the team, then letting others leave without a fight to go to lesser programs. If it's true that Zummo and the Taz staff are now running the 2025 team, that's a huge change in the right direction, as that Taz team is to 2024 what Express is to 2025. If that change happened two years ago, you might see a very different 2025 landscape. Does anyone know what happened to the prior coach?

Different weekend. Delaware is in November.

Coaches are going to watch their kids play fall ball and then spring regular season. They have no time for a youth team.

91 dad, what tourney in Delaware ? Just curious , do you see any

They stopped playing fall tournaments because the parents are lunatics. A few years ago they played and lost a bunch and the parents were losing their minds. The mule had to come in and take it over before everyone jumped ship. Once he did, he stopped playing multiple fall tourneys.

The former head coach is listed at S2S. And he is a fantastic coach. Don’t know the details and don’t care, just a shame what happened to the Geese. They were the best team just two years ago and now they are struggling to compete with the top teams.

Not true. They usually play 2. Although they do tend to the mylacrosse.com tournaments and NFL tournaments since Dynamic makes money on those.
Its unusual for them to do only 1 tournament.
The one they are playing in Deleware, North American Fall Invite, is a competitive tournament though.

Sounds about right with 91 2025 , that is 91's style . They don't play in tournaments they don't feel they can win or any tournaments that they don't own which they also rig the schedules so they can win easily. What a joke

Why? Only one coaches kid plays. The other one can get sent pictures from the bench. Great view of the field.

Is CoachC's Express team going to North American Fall Invite in Deleware this year? I am pretty sure they went last year.

They usually go to their own tournaments. But the North American Fall Invite is not a mylacrosse.com or nlf tourney. So thet cant rig it. And it generally is a very competitive tournament.

Theyre dodging Express until the parents make their last payment. 91 can’t afford any mid year defections.

If there is a tourney they are traveling. Team gets the best bang for the buck vs any team. Queue all the negative comments about rosters, playing time, money grab, blah, blah. Pipe down, nobody needs the advice from online self proclaimed lacrosse travel pundits.

That’s just a good business decision. Can’t blame them.

It's all understood if it's a good business decision but they need to keep their mouths shut about being the best etc....when they don't play any good competition. Especially the dad's, when you know that they avoid good competition you lose all say in terms of boasting like the do . They do it for every year too, 91 plays in their weak tournaments then pound their chests with their new t shirts with their fingers held up high saying theyre number one , lol.

91 is cookin up a secret sauce to win it all so they can’t play anybody or it won’t be a secret ... ssshh it’s a secret

Now cut the check.

"Queue all the negative comments..." Queue? apparently we have someone from the Express Scrabble team perusing (16 points) the board. .... "Team gets the best bang for the buck vs any team" - (I'm Coach Channenwoodchukwood (58 points) and I approve this message.)

North American Fall Invite last year had all if the toughest teams plus Cgabnys team was there as well. Not sure what they would be dodging if they are doing that tournament.
Honestly surprised they are not doing a warm up tournament to that.

They won one tournaments last year. They're still wearing t-shirts from 4th grade.

And to be clear, the right word in that context should have been cue, not queue

Wow. This board just jumped the shark. Grammar insults?

Let me tell you what happened over the last few pages.

-Express is the top team in the age group. That is not up for debate.
-People bash Express because they have big numbers, but really just because they are so much better than everyone else and parents wish their kid's played for them.
-Express plays in as many tourneys as they can and people on the team are enjoying their experience.
-91 parents think they should get more respect. They won't get it.
-91 is the second best team, but too inconsistent to be in the same class as Express.
-People bash 91 because they want to try to bring them down to their son's club team's level. They are not. They are still much much better than everyone besides Express, but have lost several games they probably could have won.
-91 doesn't play in as many Fall or Spring tourneys, but have an excellent winter training/box schedule which keeps them busier and practicing more than any other club team on the age group.
-Geese parents used to be crazy and talked a bunch a few years back, so now everyone is happy to see them struggle.
-The Geese parents who have bounced around are now trashing Express and 91 because their boys were unable to sustain the level of play they had when they were in 4th grade and can't stay on a top team.
-Gold Rush and Rebels have good competitive teams, but are not in the same class as the top 2.
-There are many other clubs with many kids that are working hard to get better every year; however, these teams are likely not in the conversation with the teams mentioned. And that is 100% ok.

How come Millon Force is overlooked? They had a good Blatant showing - played Rebels to a tie. Check out their pricing. Half the price of some clubs. Rebels practice 3X a week and Force practices 3X in the Fall. Seems like the Rebels kids are wasting their time. Imagine if Force practiced more? Could be the best club on Long Island.

I just can’t believe there is actually a person out there, who has this much knowledge on 12 year old boys Long Island club lacrosse.
I can speak from experience, my oldest plays in college. His team was average at best 4th,5th,6th,7th grade. Teams records mean zero. Enjoying the experience and improving means everything. You people arguing over which team is better, sound so ignorant. If you only knew.
One guy earlier was writing a team was skipping tournaments because it’s good for business. What planet are you from. It’s October, weather is perfect, kids who are 12 want to play lacrosse against their friends on the other teams. They can’t play because it hurts the clubs business. Do you even hear yourselves.

Lol, thet sumsss it uppp

I think someone misses 6th grade lacrosse and a still a little upset that his son wasnt on a good team.

Force Triolo 2025 is a very good team. I would put them in that tier below 91. They'll play competitively and beat just about anyone outside of Express and 91.

However, Force as a club leaves much to be desired.
Yes, they are one of the cheaper clubs out there but to your point, you get very little for that money.

Can't say they are one of the best clubs when they are a doormat in other age groups. Just my opinion

These posts are so long and boring I forgot what the argument was even about! get back to the insults for God sake!

"People bash Express because they have big numbers, but really just because they are so much better than everyone else and parents wish their kid's played for them"

Nope.