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I was curious to see if the person living through their kid was just bitter or maybe had a point...….So I just looked at the individual stats for the last USC game. I believe you are talking about KM. Please stop coming on here and posting that someone is not producing when it is too easy to prove you wrong.

She had 1 goal on 2 shots, 6 Ground balls out of the teams 19, 5 caused turnovers of the teams 12, 3 draw controls out of the teams 14. she had 1 turnover out of the teams 19. Now if you are solely looking at goals yes you are correct in your bitter jealous and small minded opinion. From my point of view and I can tell you I have never seen her play. I would take a kid with that stat line on my team every day of the week.

Goals: her shooting percentage is in the top 2 of her team of girls that have taken over 24 shots this season.
Draw: she is second on her team with 23
Ground Balls: Tied for first on her team with 25
Caused Turn Overs: Leads her team with 14
Turnovers: Only blemish on her stat sheet. She leads her team with turnovers 16.

If you have a problem with this kid it can not be as a lacrosse player. Maybe therapy will help you get over your obsession with her. I know it stings a little when you hear her name mentioned as time goes by you will get over it.
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Yes this is odd

Officiating was an adventure in this game

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The obsession and animosity obviously stems from jealousy. This person just can't get over the fact that every authority on the sport considerers this player stronger than his or her daughter.

Womens Division I Rankings 3/11/2019

Rank Institution Points FPV Record Last Poll
1 Boston College 625 25 8-0 1
2 Maryland 598 0 6-0 2
3 North Carolina 574 0 5-1 3
4 Syracuse 553 0 6-2 4
5 Virginia 505 0 6-2 6
6 Northwestern 487 0 5-3 5
7 James Madison 464 0 6-1 7
8 Penn 449 0 6-0 8
9 Princeton 431 0 4-1 9
10 Loyola 389 0 3-2 10
11 Denver 363 0 6-1 11
12 Michigan 355 0 9-0 13
13 Navy (USNA) 303 0 5-2 12
14 Johns Hopkins 288 0 6-1 17
15 Duke 285 0 6-1 14
16 Florida 211 0 3-3 16
17 Stony Brook 197 0 2-3 18
18 Stanford 189 0 5-2 15
19 Penn State 173 0 4-3 19
20 Notre Dame 169 0 6-0 20
21 Georgetown 149 0 5-2 21
22 Southern California 135 0 6-1 22
23 Colorado 128 0 3-3 23
24 Virginia Tech 34 0 4-4 24
25 High Point 24 0 3-3 NR
RV Towson 0-6 25

Womens Division II Rankings 3/11/2019

Rank Institution Points FPV Record Last Poll
1 Le Moyne 625 25 3-0 1
2 Adelphi 600 0 3-0 2
3 Florida Southern 564 0 5-1 3
4 West Chester 541 0 1-1 5
5 Lindenwood (MO) 540 0 6-0 4
6 LIU Post 466 0 3-1 6
7 Rollins 447 0 5-0 8
8 Regis (Colorado) 406 0 4-0 9
9 East Stroudsburg 388 0 2-2 7
10 Tampa 352 0 5-2 11
11 Pace 338 0 2-1 14 T-12
T-12 Limestone 323 0 5-1 T-12
T-12 UIndy 323 0 4-1 T-12
14 Mercy 302 0 4-1 10
15 Mercyhurst 240 0 3-0 16
16 Colorado Mesa 207 0 3-1 21
17 New Haven 172 0 2-1 19
18 Queens (North Carolina) 170 0 3-2 22
19 Merrimack 165 0 1-3 18
20 Grand Valley State 157 0 3-2 15
21 Assumption 147 0 4-0 NR
22 New York Tech 132 0 2-1 17
23 Bentley 118 0 2-0 23
24 Florida Tech 81 0 4-3 20
25 Saint Leo 45 0 7-0 RV
RV Slippery Rock 38 0 1-0 T-24

Womens Division III 3/11/2019

Rank Institution Points FPV Record Last Poll
1 Gettysburg 625 25 4-0 1
2 Franklin & Marshall 582 0 4-1 4
3 Washington and Lee 559 0 3-2 3
4 Mary Washington 555 0 5-1 2
5 Salisbury 532 0 4-1 5
6 Middlebury 485 0 2-1 6
7 York (PA) 476 0 3-1 7
8 Colby 450 0 3-0 8
9 Trinity (CT) 422 0 2-0 9
10 Tufts 401 0 2-0 10
11 TCNJ 370 0 3-1 11
12 Wesleyan (CT) 356 0 3-0 12
13 Amherst 329 0 3-1 13
14 Bowdoin 295 0 1-1 14
15 SUNY Cortland 263 0 1-1 15
16 Catholic 256 0 2-1 17
17 St. John Fisher 209 0 2-1 19
18 William Smith 194 0 2-1 18
19 Ithaca 147 0 2-1 22
20 Haverford 127 0 4-1 21
21 Bates 115 0 3-2 16
22 University of Scranton 112 0 4-1 20
23 Rowan 105 0 2-1 23
24 Colorado College 63 0 3-0 24
25 Babson 34 0 2-2 NR
RV Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 5-1 25

SBU is one of the most hated programs there is. JS is a self promoting machine who also hypes his players beyond what any other program does and it rubs people the wrong way. The fans are obnoxious and they are possibly the worst flopping team in the country .Other than that they are great.

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terrible

Gettysburg will be very tough to beat I know we arent allowed to talk D3
Facts are facts

The obsession and animosity obviously stems from jealousy. This person just can't get over the fact that every authority on the sport considerers this player stronger than his or her daughter. [/quote]
They have a great team and USC does not need her to do as much
Which will help her down the stretch

You can talk all you want about D3! The former Laxpower website had many discussions about all the divisions, especially D3. There were a lot of old dogs in those D3 forums. I’d love them to find this site. I have NESCAC ties which is a great conference with wonderful schools. Yes, Gettysburg is that good. Good game Wednesday F&M vs Bowdoin.

I just went back to stats and I'm a lacrosse fan. I like to read about all games div1,2 or 3.
Yes there are very good players at all levels!
A past reply was about Stony Brook Flops, If you look at team stats they have less 8 meter shots than the teams they are playing against. So I like reading everyones comments but that is a bad one .
I'm looking forward to warm weather games. Keep up the reports about games at all divisions. Too Bad about the bad stats. seems like it is an opinion!

Go away troll. She was recruited ahead of your kid and I bet every Top 10 DI coach would take her over your daughter today as well. Get over it, your daughter is not as good as you think she is. You are a very bitter jealous person.


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So your take on it is she is not producing and trying to do too much? Meanwhile history is being made.......

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Are you starting to get the idea that you have no idea what you are talking about? You must be so blinded by jealousy and hate that you just don’t see it. I had a conversation with her dad, he would like very much if you could please contact him. Just for an adult discussion. He would love to meet ya!

Maybe, I think being challenged by some strong teams early will help Stony Brook down the stretch. I am sure JS will not look past anybody but they have two easy games this week with UMBC on Wednesday and Cornell on Saturday. They should win both without much trouble. Florida should be interesting.

Defensive player?? I thought she was a middle who is supposed to score goals? Was she demoted to defense?

If you don't think the top 5 D3 schools wouldn't put a thumping on these bottom D1 teams, then you haven't watched much college lacrosse

100 Siena
101 Quinnipiac
102 Butler
103 Saint Francis (PA)
104 St. Bonaventure
105 Sacred Heart
106 Stetson
107 East Carolina
108 Central Conn. St.
109 Gardner-Webb
110 Presbyterian
111 LIU Brooklyn
112 Hartford
113 Wofford
114 Howard
115 Delaware St.

instead of looking at stats go watch their game ; its flop city ,many of which happen while they are playing defense , its gross. Less 8 meter shots is because they play a packed in zone so give up alot of 3 second calls. You peopl have to sop looking just at stats which rarely tell the whole story.

Wow , you should be so proud . By the way did anyone say they woulnt . That said when LIU combine next year the top players on the team will be from LIU brooklyn.

This is probably all from a jealous YJ dad Who she stole the spotlight from

Here we go again...

It does when you want to be an All American

Where can I find the full list of rankings

The Top 10 should all be fine the rest of the way and will all make the NCAA Tournament. Northwestern must tighten up their defense.

Michigan will have their work cut out for them in the B1G. Penn State this week.

Duke will also have to do well in conference.

Florida has a crazy stretch with four games in 11 days Syracuse, North Carolina, Princeton and Stony Brook ... After that they should run the table.

Stony Brook will destroy UMBC and Cornell this week (JS not happy and will want to make a statement). SBU will then go to Fla and beat the Gators.

Stanford has two games against USC and another shot at Colorado. PAC 12 should be interesting.

Penn State has a big one with Michigan this week. Should be telling... Can The B1G get 5 teams in the NCAA's? I think 4 of 5 (MD, NU, Hop, PSU, Michigan)

Notre Dame will really have to make some noise in the ACC. They should be well rested. Will they be battle tested?

21 - 25... G-Town, USC, Colorado, All will make NCAA's. Va Tech out. High Point ??

Towson is Best 0 - 6 team in the country. Give them Notre Dames YTD Schedule and they are 6 - 0. Tigers must beat St Joseph's this week.

Starting to get interesting.

OMG. She is one of the best players in her class. Not recruited as a goal scorer. Does everything else. You are an stunad.

OK I went and watched the Princeton vs Stony Brook game, Not so sure about your reply about Defense flopping and 3 second calls . Maybe 2 3 seconds calls not even sure about that!
Think you are a hater. Just trying to figure where you are coming from. Good games this week Florida vs Syracuse should be a good one!

Great games this week!!
Should have some great tests for some untested teams

OK I went and watched the SBU ,Colorado game, you have kids dropping to the ground without being touched , kids grabbing their head on both offense and defense and the best one of all the head grab as they drop to the ground right in front of the ref with a great no call by the official. The SBU dad waving the flag is a great example of why people end up hoping they lose.

"The SBU dad waving the flag is a great example of why people end up hoping they lose."

LOL... I cheer for SB but dude put the flag down and cheer like an adult.

Don't waste your time responding to the know nothing haters. They just can't stand it when players are better than their daughter.

Box score!!!!

What exactly are you babbling about?

It don't lie! Girls with high box scores who play on top teams win accolades. The rest are part of the supporting cast.

Apparently the girl has received more attention and accolades than your daughter and it drives you crazy. Only know nothing stunands like you worry about the box score. How many college coaches would take your daughter over the girl being discussed? Zero, that is how many. They did not recruit your daughter over her in HS and they would not take her now. BTW, if your daughter is not the same year you can look at last years class... The #1 recruit in the country went to UNC and her "Box scores" were not all that impressive. I think she had 20 goals her senior year. The coaches at the top programs and people who understand the game and team sports in general know what makes a great player. You are a know nothing as well as a coward. Jealousy is a terrible thing.

Apparently the girl has received more attention and accolades than your daughter and it drives you crazy. Only know nothing stunands like you worry about the box score. How many college coaches would take your daughter over the girl being discussed? Zero, that is how many. They did not recruit your daughter over her in HS and they would not take her now. BTW, if your daughter is not the same year you can look at last years class... The #1 recruit in the country went to UNC and her "Box scores" were not all that impressive. I think she had 20 goals her senior year. The coaches at the top programs and people who understand the game and team sports in general know what makes a great player. You are a know nothing as well as a coward. Jealousy is a terrible thing.

While I agree with what you are saying in general what the heck are you talking about with the UNC player ? What yearb

has been....15 minutes are up

The #1 recruit in the HS graduating class of 2018 (last year) is similar to the USC player. Freshman at UNC. Not a big goal scorer but recognized by the top college coaches, IL, UA etc... as the top player in the class. Maybe 20 goals as a senior in HS yet anyone who knows the game will take her over just about every other player.

Got it, yes that kid is a heck of a player and any coach would be happy to have her. That said those rankings in general are useless and very political. No i am not some parent who thinks my kid deserved more accolades as she got plenty its just i think there are so many players that could easily be recognized as top 50 players or top 20 but are not for so many different reasons. My daughter was gererally selected as a top 5 recruit thru the years and honestly there were 5-6 kids on her travel team that just as easily could have been selected for that. Is what it is but i am not a fan of those lists depends alot on where you committed , how much pull your club director , your high school coach has and if you are on inside lacrosses list and alot of other factors that have nothing to do with your ability.

So, your daughter was regarded as one of the Top 5 recruits in her age group for several years? There were 5 or 6 on her club team that could have easily been considered to be one of the 5 or 6 best players in the country? Really? You believe that there are "so many players" that could be recognized as Top 50 or Top 20 players? No, there are not. There are not many players who can be considered Top 50 and there are even less that can be considered Top 20. I laugh every time I hear this nonsense.

There is not parity in the sport of women's lacrosse. There is not a plethora of talent. Why do you think the same teams are the strongest every year? There is not enough talent to go around. Sorry it is what it is. If there was an abundance of talent, if there were so many players that were just as good as the top 50 we would see teams like Columbia, Conneticut and Cornell beating Carolina. We would see Marist, Mercer and Monmouth beating Maryland. It doesn't happen because there are not 200, 300, 400 or 500 players that could be considered Top 50.

The reason we are not seeing more second tier teams beating the top teams is because they do not get the top players. As the sport continues to grow we will see a few more teams move into that top tier but for now the talent just isn't there. If those player ranking were all BS and political then the handful of teams that bring in the majority of those top 50 players would not be as dominant as they are.

Seems like there are a lot of dads on here trying to justify why there daughters should be in the conversation as top players, while there performances are sub par.