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This is a college thread, correct?

I suggest you just let it go. Easy for me to say.... Not sure how I would respond if the parent was bashing my daughter...

This is college, not club.

I agree 100% with getting everyone in whenever possible. However, I am not the coach and cannot influence playing time. All I want is advice on how to handle the disgruntled parent on the sideline short of saying, "If your kid was good enough, she'd be in."

Current Top 20

1 - Boston College
2 - Maryland
3 - North Carolina
4 - Florida
5 - Stony Brook
6 - Northwestern
7 - Loyola
8 - Princeton
9 - James Madison
10 - Penn State
11 - Syracuse
12 - Virginia Tech
13 - Penn
14 - Virginia
15 - Towson
16 - Duke
17 - USC
18 - Navy
19 - Denver
20 - Colorado

Can a team win a national championship or make the final four if they do not play a tough regular season schedule?

At the collegiate level there should be no parent commenting on the playtime of their student/athlete.

Womens Division I


Rank Institution Points FPV 2018 Record
1 Boston College 622 22 22-2
T-2 Maryland 579 0 20-2
T-2 North Carolina 579 1 17-4
4 James Madison 536 2 22-1
5 Stony Brook 505 0 20-1
6 Florida 500 0 17-4
7 Northwestern 483 0 15-6
8 Princeton 408 0 13-6
9 Loyola 380 0 16-5
10 Penn 362 0 14-5
11 Towson 334 0 16-5
12 Penn State 326 0 10-10
13 Navy (USNA) 319 0 18-4
14 Virginia Tech 314 0 14-7
15 Syracuse 304 0 9-10
16 Virginia 275 0 10-10
17 Colorado 252 0 14-6
18 Stanford 246 0 15-5
19 Denver 128 0 13-7
20 Notre Dame 127 0 10-9
21 Southern California 111 0 10-8
22 Georgetown 96 0 12-7
23 Johns Hopkins 87 0 10-9
24 Duke 83 0 8-9
25 Dartmouth 79 0 11-5

Womens Division II


Rank Institution Points FPV 2018 Record
1 Le Moyne 625 25 22-1
2 Adelphi 585 0 19-3
3 Florida Southern 578 0 21-2
4 Lindenwood (MO) 534 0 19-1
5 West Chester 490 0 19-1
6 East Stroudsburg 459 0 15-4
7 LIU Post 417 0 14-6
8 Regis (Colorado) 395 0 17-5
9 Rollins 388 0 14-4
10 Florida Tech 385 0 17-3
11 Limestone 346 0 17-3
T-12 Mercy 322 0 14-4
T-12 Indy 322 0 16-4
14 Pace 265 0 14-5
15 Mercyhurst 263 0 13-7
16 Merrimack 244 0 14-5
17 Grand Valley State 228 0 13-5
18 New York Tech 202 0 14-5
19 Tampa 176 0 12-6
20 New Haven 159 0 12-6
21 Lock Haven 119 0 13-6
22 Colorado Mesa 71 0 12-4
23 Bentley 67 0 9-7
24 Lake Erie 47 0 16-2
25 McKendree 35 0 9-10
25 Tiffin 35 0 11-7

Womens Division III


Rank Institution Points FPV 2018 Record
1 Gettysburg 616 20 21-2
2 Middlebury 585 2 20-3
3 TCNJ 574 2 20-3
4 Salisbury 527 1 21-2
5 Amherst 519 0 17-3
6 York (PA) 499 0 15-5
7 Franklin & Marshall 467 0 18-5
8 Mary Washington 436 0 17-5
9 Trinity (CT) 405 0 13-7
10 Tufts 393 0 13-5
11 Bowdoin 367 0 14-6
12 Wesleyan (CT) 353 0 12-7
13 Washington and Lee 343 0 16-5
14 SUNY Cortland 277 0 16-5
15 Catholic 268 0 15-7
16 Messiah 266 0 15-4
17 William Smith 245 0 15-5
18 St. John Fisher 200 0 17-3
19 Ithaca 161 0 14-5
20 Colby 147 0 9-7
21 Rowan 143 0 14-4
22 Colorado College 95 0 15-5
23 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 77 0 18-2
24 Stevens 51 0 14-6
25 Denison 50 0 17-3

Florida took a beatdown from Maryland, let the fun begin!

I watched the game... Md won, put Florida gave the beating..was a bit rough to say the least.

Out of curiosity I looked up Maryland starting lineup.... it debunks much of what is written on this site about what happens to the top HS players...

Nine of the 11 Starters for the Terps were Named Under Armour All-Americans as Seniors in HS. Nine of the 11 were Ranked by Inside Lacrosse in the Top 30 coming out of HS. The two players who were not ranked and were not UA All-Americans are transfers.

The reality is that the players who are ranked in the Top 30 by IL and who make UA All-American as Seniors do in fact go to the top college programs, they continue to play (they do not quit) and they do very well in college.

Normally I would not care but this simpleton obviously has a kid who is highly regarded but has heard the " she will never play" and just cannot believe it. Another way to look at your UA superstars on the MD team last night is that 17 UA all americans did not start or even see the field while only 5 non UA all americans did not play. Your vast research does not address in any way players that stop playing. You make it too easy .

High Point and UNC - UNC gettign away with a lot of contact. Lady ref giving the ball to UNC on a shot attempt from HPU, what was she watching.

great game to watch to see how Offensives and defenses play

The best D2 and D3 would still beat D1 teams that are ranked outside the top 50. The bottom of D1 plays absolutely dreadful lacrosse now to be fair the bottom of D3 plays couldn't beat some PAL teams but the top of 2 and 3 are really very good

Spot on

I Think NOTRE DAME is going to win it all !!!!!! See their schedule this season

I would love to see women’s college lax go to 6 personal fouls per a game. The amount of whistles would be cut in half per a game or you would see teams have to go very deep into bench. The issue is teams are clearly fouling on purpose in between 30s to stop breaks. It is an obvious “game plan” for teams. It would be so easy to implement. The refs wear a small mic they say number of infraction on to score keeper with head phone on.
The game unlike basketball doesn’t need to stop. Obviously this would need some more thought, but would great for game.

It would stop all cheap fouls in between 30s...as a player would need to think about fouls.

Game speed would be much better as well, also add some great excitement to game.

Wow ,it’s as if they are conceding that they are just not very good .That is truly an embarrassing min conference schedule . They will set team records this year on offensive stats and yet will win nothing. The problem for them will be when they go under 500 in conference they will not make the tournament .

Their game against Liberty might be closer than one might think.

I've been saying this for years, and I am not alone. Clean up the game.

I guess it’s not just SB players that run up their stats , watched the Tewaraaton candidate from UNC take her 8 shot of the first half while the team is up 14-0 against an obviously overmatched opponent . I get it it’s college lax but when you have teammates in at the time who rarely get minutes and you would obviously score rather than set them up it makes you look desperate and like a terrible teammate .At least the UNC coaching staff takes out their starters for the whole s cond half , have seen SB leave them in essentially the whole game .Seems like ND has some stat ladders as well.

Couldn't agree more. Get the goons out of games right now there is zero consequence

Hey all you Coaches who voted against changing recruiting dates from Sept 1 to June 15 for contact.
Two weekends in a row I am screwing around from webcast to webcast to watch a game from a U2 spy plane camera and have it buffer way too often. I still haven't figured out if I like the silent game, the unprepared student calling a game they are seeing for the first time (what the heck is "sticking") or two girls having a conversation over top of the game.

You coaches need to fight for halfway decent broadcast of your games NOT the recruiting date to stay the same so you can get more camp money. Without video eventually there will be no game to have your extortion camps.

One of the funniest things I heard when watching a game webcast was the student announcers who didn't realize their mics were still hot. They started trash talking each other. I was dying laughing.

Division I Womens Lacrosse Rankings

Rank Institution Points FPV Record Last Poll
1 Boston College 625 25 2-0 1
2 Maryland 593 0 2-0 T-2
3 North Carolina 581 0 3-0 T-2
4 Northwestern 522 0 3-0 7
5 Florida 510 0 1-1 6
6 Stony Brook 454 0 0-0 5
7 James Madison 453 0 2-1 4
8 Syracuse 440 0 2-1 15
9 Princeton 422 0 1-0 8
10 Penn State 376 0 2-0 12
11 Penn 356 0 1-0 10
12 Virginia 327 0 2-0 16
13 Denver 293 0 3-0 19
14 Colorado 278 0 1-1 17
15 Duke 245 0 2-1 24
16 Loyola 236 0 0-1 9
17 Johns Hopkins 231 0 2-0 23
18 Navy (USNA) 212 0 1-1 13
19 Towson 178 0 0-2 11
20 Georgetown 176 0 2-0 22
21 Stanford 150 0 0-1 18
22 Notre Dame 137 0 3-0 20
23 Virginia Tech 99 0 1-2 14
24 Southern California 98 0 1-0 21
25 Michigan 45 0 4-0 NR

BC, MD, NC and NU good 1 thru 4.

Florida 5? maybe.

Not sure about SBU. Time will tell.

JMU will drop and will not be in the top 8 at the end of the season.

Syracuse will be tough to beat and may challenge for a final four spot.

Princeton, PSU, Penn and Virginia all tough but don't think any will make the final 4. one or two maybe 3 will be in the final 8 depending on seeding.

Denver too high.

Colorado good but will not be a top 10 team.

Duke is very good and will be competing to be in the final 8 maybe even the final four.

Loyola , Hopkins , Navy all somewhere between 15 - 20.

Towson? tough schedule. they have to win a couple of close ones. not top 10 this year.

Georgetown on the way back up not sure they are tough enough to crack the top 10.

Stanford 15 - 20.

Virginia Tech not top 20.

USC? 10 - 15 maybe.

Michigan not top 20. Very surprised they have not become better.

Not sure who could possibly move into the Top 20. Don't think there will be any JMU's this year.

If SBU can win just about all of their regular season games again this year and get a top 4 seed they just might win it all

Why do I keep seeing on Twitter that Ohmlller is greatest women to ever play lacrosse?? Didn’t a Jr win the Teewaraton over her last year? Didn’t she blow the Stonybrook playoff game? Didn’t she get cut from team USA? Just because you rack up points playing terrible teams when starters should have been taken out does not make you the greatest. Now with that said, she is a terrific player, definitely All American caliber, and seems like a great person. Just sick of hearing the bragging!

I was thinking the same thing! Started to reply to a tweet but didn't feel like getting flamed.

Maryland, BC , UNC, Fl, SB, NW in that order are top teams .
JMU will end around 15-20 as they play a brutal non conference schedule .
SYracuse where they belong
Princeton slightly too high
PSU too high 15-20
Penn slightly too high
UVA top 10
Denver about right
Colorado slightly too high
Duke too low , bubble top ten
Loyola slightly too low
Hopkins too low , top 10
Navy and down is about right just switch Usc and Stanford
Halfpenny should be ashamed of herself , that non conference schedule is ridiculous

Well I used to root for SBU but after watching the first half of their first game I cannot root for them anymore . They are clearly taught to drop to the ground , on TV you can actually see them grab their heads when not touched , drop to the ground when not touched , etc . It makes the game unwatchable and is poor sportsmanship at best . If you have enough talent you really don’t need to do that stuff too win . US lacrosse should be embarrassed that this clown is who they selected to assist on the us team .

Floppers....embarrassing to the sport!

Everyone does it, Maryland does more flopping than anyone and a disproportionate amount of their goals scored on 8 meter shots

Sorry but just not true . Have watched a lot of lacrosse and clearly SBU is coached to exaggerate at best . Not all teams do it and SBU players coaches and fans should be embarrassed .If you can watch the game you can clearly see them diving to the ground when there is zero contact and multiple times they grab their head when no contact is made. Other teams have specific players that tend to do it but SBU is the only team that I have seen where it is done team wide .

Fish rots from the head down. Unsportsmanlike conduct, disgusting

Folks. All the teams have players that flop! Whether learned or taught. SBU beat a very good team in CO. We'll see where they end up. My guess is just out of the top 4 (again?). UNC, MD and BC are legit. # 4 is still a? Northwestern is good but have issues on draw. Still too much of season left.

We'll see.

Predictions
UVA over Princeton
Unc over Maryland
Denver over SB
Cuse over NW

Was at the Harvard vs BC game today, it was the perfect example why you can’t look at stats and reaffirmed the reason that the right person won the tewaariton. It was 14-3 half time and 17-6 final. Bc only scored 3 goals in the 2nd half and no goals in the last 10 minutes. They could have easily scored another 14 in the 2nd! Do you think SB would ever put on the breaks in like that?

Big game tomorrow Maryland vs UNC. Thoughts

While I agree Sam was deserving of the award I don’t think the fact that BC pulled their starters in the second half proves much as Sam still put up big numbers against an overmatched team . BC plays a fairly non competive out of conference schedule so maybe her numbers are inflated compared to those teams that play a difficult out of conference schedule .

Some great games...

Looks like it should be another great year. Will be very interesting to see the season play out. Gotta love the teams that play tough schedules especially out of conference. They know that they may not have a great record but they will be battle tested come tournament time. I am sure there are others but Maryland, North Carolina, Syracuse Northwestern, Towson, Princeton, Loyola, Florida, James Madison, Penn State all challenge themselves.