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The death of Sons 2023 can be directly traced to Big 5. That team was a bad idea and now none of the players that played on that team are happy with their “not Big 5” club team.

Then why are kids who were not on Big 5 leaving Sons?

Who didn’t see that coming?

Their not my son and a bunch of his friends are staying.

Sons has 3-4 good kids and they are all headed to Mesa. They were never a AA team but still played in those brackets....now they will have to play B

not accurate

So funny, they didn't fold their 2024 team up they basically gave it to nxt and its now nxt strongest team. There were a ton of kids trying out at the 2024. My son was on the Rising Sons team last year and we were B. He did not make it this year. There was a ton of talent. We are accepting the B invite because of the coaching. You have zero clue what you are talking about. With Brian Samson coaching 2025's i'm sure the team 10 kids will soon be leaving.

Noticing a lot of teams are having supplemental tryouts. Is the talent pool that bad?

There are way too many local teams, you can't pitch playing AA events if you don't have the horses. Freedom is a great example they have always had very solid AA teams and now they are forced to bring in kids from all over the East Coast. When only two, maybe three teams can truly field AA teams at 2023 and 2024 with local kids it shows how diluted the talent pool is. It won't change though as long as parents keep spending $2000-3000 to have there son play.

I’m gonna say that is probably one of the major reasons. The other reason is that tryouts range all over the place... some started in June, some haven’t even happened yet. Players are probably taking whatever offers they get as a safety net until they are on the team they really want, then back out of the other offers, so teams now have to backfill for empty spots.

Truth is Merging with MSI killed the 2023s. Despite reassuring summer practices would stay at MP, it's only a matter of time before everything ends up at MSI. Why would MSI rent field space when they own fields? For at least half the kids MP was a haul, now add 30-45 mins. MP and All Sports was a better mix for most.

90% of the kids would have stayed despite being under .500 this year, there were few teams that can say they played that tough of schedule all year. It also hurt by not having named a coaching staff for 2023 and below no knew what they would be walking into, especially after announcing the Elevated merger.

No they wouldn't have...

Philly 2021 Rankings
1. Mesa
2. Sons
3. HHH
4. Freedom
5. NXT
6. Team 11
7.
8.
9.
10. Fusion
11. Rough Riders

Mesa expanding geographically

http://www.oldeenglishlax.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/230/2018/09/Mesa-OE-Press-Release.pdf

My understanding is that the 23's coach left, took his best kids to Mesa and no replacement was named. That was enough for pretty much all the kids to bail.

2022 Ranking

Big 4 HHH
Mesa
Duke's
Freedom
South Shore

Sons. Nuff said

Rising Sons has a good FOGO on an average team. The FOGO is also on Dukes. Sons doesn’t make the top 5. They couldn’t compete with Mesa and Big 4 last year and have lost players.

Rising Sons were crushed by Mesa and HHH at the Ice Breaker.

But their training is so much better than everyone else. They may have lost, but the level of coaching the kids have received since will put them ahead. Who is coaching your kid?

"But their training is so much better than everyone else." You are being sarcastic, right?

Daddy-ball at its finest!

2 coaches who played D1 and have no kids.

TD thinks he is the best coach out there, just ask him, he will tell you...

What’s the Sons Fall schedule? I want to catch a game or two.

Did any Rising Sons team win a game today? Asking for a friend.

Lost to Freedom

2023 scores from yesterday - MD 91, Freedom, Patriot?

Did any of their teams win a game or just more fraud

Don't remember the scores but...

MD 91 tied Patriot and lost to Freedom. No idea what they did against Sons.
Sons lost to Freedom. No idea what they did against the others.
Freedom won all their games.

Penn State’s 2020 class just got a whole lot better today.

No surprise there, the shocking thing is that another school is interested.

It's not the kids fault his Dad is the way he is. Karma is biting him in the butt right now. Create the Big 5 and than watch the two coaches dismantle your program has to be a killer...Sons is just a place to play now so you can say you play travel lacrosse.

His partner was arrested again.

Trash. You come on here and degrade a kid in high school.

Maybe they know something best HS attackman in years just de-committed....

Or maybe 8th grade verbal commitments are assinine

what happened to Uprising?

Uprising is run through HHH on the girls side but ends in 6th grade (with the hopes that some of the girls will continue with HHH through Middle and high school). I think the boys side fell through (but it too was briefly being run through HHH).

What is going on with Malvern this year? They are barely scoring any goals, and from what I have seen they are losing way more than they are winning? I bet people are not happy about paying so much to go there for years just to stink when they finally make the Varsity team.

Thoughts on what Nostrants departure means for Mesa Club Teams?