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Sooo, another disappointment for Thorn. Can’t win big games. Offense is weak, slow shots. Only thing that kept them in the game was the 91 goalie. Unfortunately they spent 3 days in Delaware to go home losers. On the bright side, they did beat Monsters, at a weak tournament, nobody can take that away from you! And you can continue to claim the 3rd best team on LI title. Safe travels!

Wow! I bet you couldn't wait to post that! Go you!

Ine game was a scrimmage in day one to help a team from Minnesota get some playing time for their long flight there. It was a favor YJ stepped up to help a team get experience against actual lacrosse teams. I sense a bit of venom in your voice which is sad. The 7-0 game was a scrimmage of 20 mins they recorded but didn’t count in standings. Yellow Jackets 2022 did same with Cardinals as scrimmage I think. Easy there spew spew

Lol and YJ calls this a National Championship. Great competition

No US Lacrosse calls it the National Championship... you know US Lacrosse, the organization that makes the rules we all play by...

Nobody plays by US lacrosse rules they tried to enforce an age rule change the club directors laughed at them.US lacrosse is a joke no id cards for players. US soccer puts an age rule in and everyone complies. See the difference between the two One is respected the other is not.

talking about the rules of the game

No one complained stunad. It was a great, evenly matched game. Show the post of the compaint. Hats off to Igloo on their win. Every game has calls people don’t agree with, but the weekend was great, the tournament was great and both teams (and parents) were great. No jawing between these two teams. Igloo has earned respect, and YJ Thorne did as well. If you can’t respect teams going punch for punch in that setting then another sport might be better suited to be part of.

well said!! This was good lax!

At least we don't have to hear about how great YJ is over the next 6 months. If they won it would be a whole different story, they would be calling themselves the best team in the country.

Wasn’t really evenly matched. First off Igloo beat YJ handily in pool play. YJ goalie stood on her head to keep YJ in the game play in the championship. Everyone saw it Nd the Igloo coach even stayed that in his interview. Was great lacrosse, agree with that especially when YJ gets to go home a lost.

who in their right mind would pay that? and apparently that doesn't include tournaments etc. that is way ridiculous. True 3 girls would make an A team, the rest are good but average.

Lose with honor and win with class.. be happy two good teams played and each player got better.

You shallow soul. Pity yourself for such rot inside.

Does this mean anything without TG there?
I am sure a good ego boost, but you have to beat the best to be the best.

Aside- I have no idea how Igloo has botched the goid press with this type if win...they still can field decent (or any in some grades) teams or attract good players after this?

TC is a decent guy, but he needs to decide between building his star and building his business.

Heard there could be a lot of movement this year. Some YJ an Igloo girls may be coming to TG. The bottom of that roster could be In trouble! Was also wondering if anyone will be attending the TG Draw clinic. Could be cool to see some of the better LI girls go at it. As for the camps, seems like a waste of time.

Heard they are trying out for YJ too better there odds for recruiting

Only problem there is that the coaches stink and they have a poor record. Why would a top player want to play for a mommy and daddy coach who favors certain players who are not most deserving of being on the field? The team is also only 3rd best on LI, and would be a step down for the 2-3 top girls. Basically a mess that people are getting tired of.

[quote=Anonymous]Heard they are trying out for YJ too better there odds for recruiting

That's the kool aid talking. Who would want to put their daughter in a situation with an abusive coach and dad coaches that are there for self serving reasons on the 2023 YJ team. The college coaches will find your daughter if she's a good player regardless of the piney she wears.

Don't play club at all, go to every camp and clinic held by the schools you're interested in and you will be better off, that's the new paradigm, new recruiting rules have taken all the leverage from clubs and given it to college coaches - follow the money, the clubs are all selling BS to those who want to buy it, plenty of crazy/dellusional parents willing to finance somebody else's dreams. The pie has gotten smaller, but everybody still wants the same size piece!

I would play for YJ anytime before playing for BS and SS

And....some people are satisfied taking 3rd place. To each their own.

agreed!!! so many clubs out there selling nonsense.. i kid u not in the last 2 days i got tryout emails from Bengals. epic jokers, recon girls, bombers, liberty, what fl$ is calling fl$ supplemental tryouts. too many clubs with dilutedvtalebt

unless you want to go to hofstra

[quote=Anonymous]I would play for YJ anytime before playing for BS and SS

Yes being on a toxic sideline and playing for the 3rd best team on LI sounds very inviting

[quote=Anonymous]I would play for YJ anytime before playing for BS and SS

Amazing you would subject your daughter to Thorn and her daddy coaches. Thorn's behavior at Lax for the Cure was despicable cursing out the girls and quitting on her team by refusing to coach the last game. She is a true role model for the girls on the team.

Whoever is posting this nonsense about YJ attracting new talent at their upcoming tryouts must have their head buried in the sand. Have you not watched this team struggle year after year. The smart girls left and never looked back, I would not be surprised if a few more of the better girls leave this year. Last year when 91 girls infused into the program, only one (goalie) made a difference. The others either ride pine on Thorn, or get frustrated on Wright, a team that has take a serious downturn this year, losing most games to any team with talent. Now, we know some families have to stay withYJ either because they live In Northport, are the coaches kid, or have siblings in the program (this is over half the team). As far as the Hofstra comment, many girls actually want to go there. I even have friends that play for YJ whose daughters are committed there. The older YJ teams do have an impressive list of commits, but they are also better teams than YJ 23. TG also has plenty of girls who are going to very impressive schools. The top girls on YJ, TG, and Igloo will have their choice of school providing they keep their grades up. Bottom line is that right now TG is a more solid team than YJ. The coaches BS and S Apuzzo are fair and knowledgeable and never yell at the girls. Lots of favoritism and negativity on Thorn. Do either of these teams have room for more girls is another question. As for YJ, it would be very tough to displace a starter on that team, too many favors. On TG, BS would absolutely take a stud player and start her. He also would cut the bottom of the roster without a thought. I would rather have my daughter on a team where you need to earn your spot fairly. It’s never a good thing when coaches get too close with parents. TG has earned the top team on Long Island for a reason. And we’re proud to be a part of it.

The two organizations ( YJ & TG ) are more alike then they are dissimilar

clubs are starting to decline...you don't have to play on a club anymore to be looked at...there are so many HS showcases and elite programs where college coaches go too...and if your daughter is as good as every parent believes they are they will be found !! coaches are friends behind the scene and all talk to each other ...they begin their recruiting months before the try outs are even posted !

Ummm......You can't be more wrong. Being on a competitive club provides game time experience. There is no substitute for that. There are no top girls at any HS on LI that do not play competitive club. Your daughter is not going just show up at some showcase and stand out without years of hard work and of course talent. Sorry

Hofstra? Common there's not a kid with any other options who would play for her, several transferred out early and many others couldn't wait to graduate and get out of there, not to mention the best team she ever had there was the one she inherited, all her recruits have come up way short. can't judge talent or can't recruit it, either way nobody there is having fun

Speaking of competitiveness, we are a soccer family and just starting out with 4th grade club lax and one thing that is seems different is the hold backs. In soccer, when we played, we were always trying to play up an age group to eventually be ready for meaningful games down the road. Almost seems counterintuitive to be hold your kid back early on. Don't you want them to get better against better competition???

For the top colleges and top recruits it is the other way around. ALL you need to do is be a top player on one of the top club teams. Show up and perform in summer club games against another top team, the coaches seek these games out and two top clubs at a good tournament will have 20-30 coaches dialed in. Forget wasting all that time and money at camps, complete waste, when the coaches see a kid play and are interested ( yes even under new NCAA rules) they reach out through back channels and let the kid know to get to campus. Then it’s worth while doing camps and clinics. 98% of the kids that show up to these camps and clinics are in over their heads and have no realistic shot at being recruited, especially at the top programs.

Who won the Tewaaraton Award this year? That's right, a TG alum.

Same kids are in over their heads at tournaments too, if you can play you can play, if not all the clubs and tourneys in the world won't make a difference

Correct, and she refused to go to Hofstra, wonder why? If your kid is a future tewaarton winner she can play for the beach bums and it wouldn't matter. By the way NONE of the college coaches watching know or care who wins the game

So then don’t go there if you think it’s so bad, nobody’s forcing you. My daughter plays for TG and will not be going to Hofstra. Is that the best reason you have not to play for TG? Plenty of YJs go to Hofstra because they want to, does that make them desperate players in your expert opinion? Your obsession with SS and Hofstra is creepy.

Do you realize how incredibly pathetic you sound? This actually made me laugh out loud. It's a rarity for me to respond to this crap but YOU! LMAO and to think you're a parent. Jesus.

That has nothing at all to do with ss and bs that has everything to do with that girl. That's it.

Yes, because "unless you want to go to Hofstra" isn't straight from the playground.