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1 Kid left for fl$ where his brother played HHHMMM maybe it would be easier on the parents. No must be the start of the end.

Hmmmm his twin brother did not make the fl$ team this year.

See that, no one can predict the future. Proves how kids progress differently and teams do not stay together for the sake of staying together. It was fl$'s call not the parent who makes the team. What a maroon!

We are all lax daddy's.

I heard this term today. Seriously, what's the difference between a "lax daddy" and the father of a lacrosse player?

I heard this term today. Seriously, what's the difference between a "lax daddy" and the father of a lacrosse player?

One of the kids who left had physical talent and is a good kid but simply not coachable. We are with him on the new team and only time will tell if he can make the changes necessary to reach his potential. My sense is Turtles is a system and if you don't fit, the system spits you out. Parents need to understand what they are getting into with these club teams. The branding and the reality are different.

One of the kids who left had physical talent and is a good kid but simply not coachable. We are with him on the new team and only time will tell if he can make the changes necessary to reach his potential. My sense is Turtles is a system and if you don't fit, the system spits you out. Parents need to understand what they are getting into with these club teams. The branding and the reality are different.

Not coachable? Really? Would that explain why he made both Brine A and Jake Reed? No logic there. We met the family at practice and from our observations and speaking with the boy and his parents, the kid wanted to be on a balanced team. He said he was not growing as a player on his old team. The former team was a purely an offensive driven team with little need for defense. Winning upwards of 90% of face offs and and a high percentage scoring off of those possessions leaves little for a talented defender to do other than stand in the outfield. Not much defensive development happening there. The kid made his own decision. That took guts and displayed a mature decision making process on his part. The boy will improve exponentially under his new coaching instead of the Daddy coaches with personal agendas for their own kids. We are glad have him as an addition to our ever improving team.

Terp Black? What is that? New team?

Just curious, how many 8th graders are moving up to JV or Varsity in their perspective schools? Heard about one "Turtle" wondering about any others?

Practice starts today for most JVs and Varsity's. How would the coaches know right now? My guess is that in the better lax programs like St. Ants, Chaminade, West Islip, Smithtown W., GC, Massapequa, Manhasset there will be none because they are already loaded on JV/Varsity and those schools are always notorious for not moving kids up. Weaker schools could be more desperate and give them a try. Lets revisit this in about a month. Maybe if the middle school season is over they will try a couple of kids out on JV if its not over.

Practice starts today for most JVs and Varsity's. How would the coaches know right now? My guess is that in the better lax programs like St. Ants, Chaminade, West Islip, Smithtown W., GC, Massapequa, Manhasset there will be none because they are already loaded on JV/Varsity and those schools are always notorious for not moving kids up. Weaker schools could be more desperate and give them a try. Lets revisit this in about a month. Maybe if the middle school season is over they will try a couple of kids out on JV if its not over.

As it is a process that requires approval of the athletics department and NYS testing 8th graders do not get moved up after the season starts. It is a process that begins in the winter and in place day one spring for the boys.

Yes - but who initiates that? Over zealous parents who don't mind putting their kids in harm's way with bigger, stronger, faster kids?

What are top teams at the 2017 age and reasons why. If they could be put in order that would help. 5-8 teams.

... for what its worth, TB 8th grade team has at least 6 players asked to play up to JV

Ill give it a shot, this is all IMHO:

1. Turtles. Till someone beats em, theyre the best.
2. Terps black. Solid all the way through the roster.
3. 91 Orange. Very well coached and theyve definitely improved.
4. fl$. Super talented. Gonna be a tough out for anyone.
5. Outlaws Black. Always a competetive team.
6. Jesters Black. Up and coming team with talent.
7. Gladiators. Great coaching and hard nosed kids.
8. Terps. Lots of good lax players on this team as well.

Just one mans humble opinion. Suffice it to say that this age group on Long Island is loaded with talent and it should be a great, competetive summer. Good luck to all!

I agreed with your breakdown for the most part, very fair and complimentary post

I think that a few minor adjustments are needed IMHO, some aren't from LI. I went by what some teams have done this fall and winter including scrimmages.

1 Turtles- agreed #1 till they lose to a 2017
2 Terp black- size, speed, smart, w/top coaching won a bunch in fall and winter
3 Dukes (pa) - excellent group be ready for a good team from philly
4 Trueblue- they are talented and will win a lot but a little undiscplined
5 91- core been together a few years with good coaching
6 Breakers (MD) - big team with great lax IQ
7 fl$- lots of good players coaching is new from hotshots
8 Terps- well coached, talented, practice with terps black
9 Tri State Black- I never saw them but several have said they can play

... for what its worth, TB 8th grade team has at least 6 players asked to play up to JV

Maybe, but only the weaker school programs. None of the really competitive JV or Varsity's such as St. Ants, Chaminade, GC, Manhasset etc I'm sure.

Maybe, but only the weaker school programs. None of the really competitive JV or Varsity's such as St. Ants, Chaminade, GC, Manhasset etc I'm sure.

I agreed with your breakdown for the most part, very fair and complimentary post

I think that a few minor adjustments are needed IMHO, some aren't from LI. I went by what some teams have done this fall and winter including scrimmages.

1 Turtles- agreed #1 till they lose to a 2017
2 Terp black- size, speed, smart, w/top coaching won a bunch in fall and winter
3 Dukes (pa) - excellent group be ready for a good team from philly
4 Trueblue- they are talented and will win a lot but a little undiscplined
5 91- core been together a few years with good coaching
6 Breakers (MD) - big team with great lax IQ
7 fl$- lots of good players coaching is new from hotshots
8 Terps- well coached, talented, practice with terps black
9 Tri State Black- I never saw them but several have said they can play

If including NJ (Tri State Black), you forgot Patriot, BBL and STEPS who would all beat Tri State Black most likely.

Yes - but who initiates that? Over zealous parents who don't mind putting their kids in harm's way with bigger, stronger, faster kids?

I agreed with your breakdown for the most part, very fair and complimentary post

I think that a few minor adjustments are needed IMHO, some aren't from LI. I went by what some teams have done this fall and winter including scrimmages.

1 Turtles- agreed #1 till they lose to a 2017
2 Terp black- size, speed, smart, w/top coaching won a bunch in fall and winter
3 Dukes (pa) - excellent group be ready for a good team from philly
4 Trueblue- they are talented and will win a lot but a little undiscplined
5 91- core been together a few years with good coaching
6 Breakers (MD) - big team with great lax IQ
7 fl$- lots of good players coaching is new from hotshots
8 Terps- well coached, talented, practice with terps black
9 Tri State Black- I never saw them but several have said they can play

Or - JV/V coaches that see a kid in 7/8 grader that is more talented, bigger, stronger, and/or faster than some JV/V kids. It happens. Not every kid that has or will play up has crazy parents.