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Big difference in lacrosse, especially before the shot clock is the ability to maintain possession and run time off the clock. In hockey you're going to get your clock cleaned if you stand still with the puck. Plus you're giving the trailing team a much better chance of scoring by taking the empty netter and going to the draw circle. Just off the top of my head, save percentage in lax is around 50% and hockey is more like 90%. Scoring an empty net goal in hockey generally puts the game away, not as much in lacrosse. I have nothing against an empty netter, just talking strategy to close out the game.

So what does the school do in those cases. They have a girl commit in 9th grade - lets say to UNC as a 2017. Now she get there freshman year and doesnt play at all. Next year they have more superstar freshman coming in. There will likely be a starter or two in that freshman class. Lets say that 2017 doesnt see the field as a sophomore. Then what - does the school keep giving her a scholarship? She will likely not be a contributor in her junior year.

The short answer is yes, although an $ adjustment is very likely. ( that's why you pick a school she wants to go to even without lax) Coaches also like to play their upperclassman whenever possible, and its is mostly deserved, these kids have been with the program for 2, 3, or 4 years making practices and lifts etc..they should see the field, of course the coach will play the best kids in order to win when necessary.

Sadly this is the case. There is always new players in pipeline. You probably will never play if it doesn’t happen after second year except the rare injured star .People I have spoken to in that situation of never getting PT first couple of years still keep the scholarship they got prior to committing. That’s the good news.

So money is guaranteed even if player never cracks the rotation)

What planet are you from? This is new to you? The top programs (in every sport) bring in top talent every year. Do you think just because the player was recruited they would get playing time? Obviously another non athlete who has no idea what goes on at competitive programs. Nothing is guaranteed. Not every player who does not see significant playing time quits, some actually continue to work hard and fight for a spot. This is only a surprise to non athlete parents who think their daughter is special. Many players (in all sports) never see much playing time in college at competitive programs.

Some confs have 4yr scholarships, so no $ adjustments.

And this is why the "full athletic ride" is BS 99.9% of the time. Coaches don't like to over commit their money and then when kids are deserving at the college level (not an 8th grade verbal) the coach will up their 2nd 3rd or 4th year monies. In college it doesn't matter what you did in HS you have to earn it scholarship or not

OMG Is Tracy Weiner making you sick announcing the SB game.

You didn't know that every player on SB is the best in the United States. lol Thanks Tracy

14 3 at the half...... way to go Joe, don't sub.

Yes....she is so far up stony brooks [ChillLaxin] it’s disgusting

Yellow Jacket Major stuge. Hay Tracy have you ever hear the name Sam Apuzzo, you will when its etched on the Tewaaraton this year

Verbal diarrhea

Signed know it all [ChillLaxin]

She is a Hack. She's been on the gravy train too long with her cohort all while Farmingdale isn't doing much of anything these days...

If that is who does the regular announcing, then no. I think she does a great job of explaining what's going on. SB also does some replays, that's pretty rare in webcasting college games.
If you're watching the home team's webcast, you're going to get home team spin. That's a given.

Most fun webcast ever was a few years ago, watching a CT team and I now forget which one, the announcers didn't realize they had a live mike and started trash talking a coworker. It's live, you never know what you're going to hear. :-)

Yes!!!!!

Tracy Weiner did a great job announcing the Stony Brook vs. Towson game. She was fair and recognized players from both sides of the field. As a SB, home team announcer, she wasn't negative toward the visiting team, like some announcers are. She gave praise where praise was due. Most importantly, she knows the game and took time to explain the calls and what was taking place on the field. She was informative and accurate!

I don't think know it all at all.

The top programs bring in the top recruits every year. If you do not realize that fact you can sign your post "know nothing".

It doesn't matter if the girl committed in 9th or 12th grade. Most schools do not reduce scholarship unless there are issues. Scholarship can increase but they usually will not decrease simply because the player is not a starter. This is not rocket science and most of the big recruits who get the lions share of the scholarship money do become starters. Not all 8 or 9 recruits in a class are equal so the bottom half may never see the field.

The haters can hate all they want and they can wish for the top players to fail but in the end the best players go to the top programs and they play. That's why they win. So, until programs like Drexel, Bucknell, Cornell, UConn, Columbia or Marist start competing realize that although they are all D1 they are not equal to the top programs. Also realize that even recruits at those schools may never see the field.

worry about your own kid and help her choose a school that will be a good fit for her if she doesn't see the field. Or continue to wish for kids to fail.

Tracy Weiner is horrible. Unbearable actually. Nails on the chalkboard!!

Let’s do the math. Daddy on here talking non stop BC and Apuzzo then hates Weiner hmmm Mr Apuzzo go to bed Yj top gun battles are over

How about ND starting to play better !!

I agree ND seems to be playing much better but people laughed at me about my Cardinal. Stanford looking like a lock for NCAA's

What's the point of the RPI on Laxpower if the BC has a tougher schedule why aren't they ranked above SB?

Based on what type of schedule they have played up to this point SB gets hurt when they play their mandatory conference games Which hurts mid majors in every sport

My daughter is not in college yet, I’m one of the objective posters. BC has the best resume, and the best overall player in my opinion. SB played a weak schedule and likes to pad stats. I also notice that May former YJs get really nasty when the truth is pointed out. Let’s wait ch the rest of the season play out. I think it’s going to be fun, a few real contenders.

Seems to me no one is coming on here saying KO should win the tewaaraton so not sure why so much animosity from the Apuzzo crowd . BC plays the weakest non conference schedule of any top team by far so lets not pretend they are out testing themselves. While Apuzzo is deserving of being in the discussion there are many others including KO who are deserving also. Apuzzo is an excellent shooter and moves off ball as well as anyone, is excellent at the ride and is good (not great) at the draw.She has benefitted from playing a weak non conference schedule early but will say is probably the front runner at this point.

Apuzzo 5 goals per game average out of conference
2 goals per game in conference

BC plays very weak non conference so lets not jump on KO for padding stats

We can jump on KO for padding stats, because she and JS do. Fact. It's independent of what anyone else is doing. She does, he does, and it's embarrassing.

One thing that never fails here is the BS talk. KO hasn’t taken a shot in the second half of the last three SB games all double digit leads. But once again don’t let the facts get in the way of your story. Facts over BS

Try checking your facts first. KO scored the 18th goal in both the UMass Lowell win and the Cornell win. Doesn't matter to me if she did, but there's no need to outright try to mislead anyone.

We can jump on SA for padding stats because she and that shrill coach do. Fact( not really a fact but the clown above does not know what a fact is) .Its embarrassing as is the BC schedule, she actually schedules a cupcake non conference games just so that they can pad their stats its embarrassing.

That's a flat out lie. Why don't you peddle your propaganda somewhere else? And not only did she score the 18th goal in two of those 3 games, the stats sheet is littered w KO, TO, Murphy throughout. Joke.

Do you like telling lies?

UMASS LOWELL GAME:
SBWLAX18 2nd 22:49 Ohlmiller, Kylie Unassisted 18 4

CORNELL GAME:
SBU 2nd 22:53 Ohlmiller, Kylie Unassisted 3 18

Or maybe she's sooooo good she scores goals without actually taking shots? Unassisted no less. Both times. Needed those. I mean maybe UMass Lowell is coming back from 17-4? You never know. And how about Cornell? No lead is safe. 17-3. Nope. Lets take it to goal!

What in tarnation are you talking about? BC's non-conference schedule includes the following ranked teams: Notre Dame, Navy, USC, VA, Duke, UMass Amherst and Dartmouth. That's not a cupcake schedule.

All this KO/SB talk reminds me of the good ol' days of YJ vs. TG in the youth threads, and that's where I believe the bulk of the KO/SB stuff comes from. It's the same old.

You people are nuts! They are both great players, who play equally soft schedules. We'll see who shines come the tournament, until then give it a rest!

And the award for most uninformed poster goes to ....get a clue

Md or UNC will win championship and award will go to whittle or McCool.

Uh.... BC plays in the ACC. The ACC includes Notre Dame, Duke and UVA.

Anyone ever hear of a kid getting cut for not passing the fitness test?

Florida had a nice win today!
Rumor has it Temple is strong this year