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Success or lack there of is on the coach. We are not talking about winning or losing individual games we are talking about "The Program" and body of work over the coaches tenure. Now, there are Division I programs that are not going to be able to compete with the top programs. These are the programs that are not "fully funded", have subpar facilities, have limited or no help with admissions, have very small budgets, have very little support from the school, are lesser know schools, schools that are not desirable to many players from "hot bed areas". Many of these school may actually be very successful in their own right but they are not going to be competing with the top programs in the country (and that is okay).

Some of The Coaches is responsibilities include:

* Identifying Athletes.
* Determining which of those Athletes will help their program.
* Recruiting "selling".
* Committing / signing / landing (convincing players to attend their school).
* Teaching / Coaching / Training.
* Developing Team Culture.
* Setting Team Goals.
* Leading.
* Inspiring.
* Game Planning.
* In game coaching.
* Deciding who plays in games and who sits.
* Selecting assistant coaches.
* etc...

If the coach does not recruit top talent who is to blame?
If the coach can not utilize, develop or inspire the talent they have who is to blame?
If the strategies, schemes, tactics and plays are unsuccessful who is to blame?
If the assistant coaches are ineffective who is to blame?

This is a Team Sport and players must be coached and set up to succeed. Simply having great players is not enough. Those players must be utilized correctly and all all players must work together as a team. The coach must paint the big picture and set the overall tone. The coach must implement strategies for all facets of the game (Draw, Transition Offense & Defense, Settled Offense, Settled Defense, Redefending, Clearing, extra-man, man-down, etc..). Offensive and defensive concepts, schemes, sets and plays are all on the coach and the players must know their roles and responsibilities at all times. Any coach who allows an individual player to "do her own thing" will ultimately be undermined by that player and it will hurt the team.

Notre Dame has everything in place to be more successful: Quality Academics, University Support, Excellent Facilities, Budget, Fully Funded, Academic Support for Student Athletes etc..

Notice I said "more successful". Notre Dame is one of the Top 10 - 15 programs in the country. Some believe that with all the school has to offer they should be better. Some want to blame the coach, some of the haters want to blame the players.

IMHO the coach is okay, not great but I don't think terrible.

When was the last time ND finished the season ranked top 15 or better?

About to get myself in trouble but here it is .Have been watching as many games as possible w the Tewaaraton in mind . Start w KO , probably the best finisher in the game but the eyeball test says a lot is a function of their offense and who they are playing. She ends up w a lot of 1 on 1 opportunities little of which is created by herself .
Shayna Precca deserves to be in this discussion , scoring at a high rate mainly thru her own effort creating her own opportunities . Neither player adds much other than scoring as not involved in the draw and neither great at riding.
Apuzzo is also in the discussion and I believe the best all around offensive player as in gets teammates involved but also scores . She is good at the draw not great and decent at the ride .
Casey Bear should be high on this list , does it all , good at the draw ; solid defense , scores on the offensive side .
That said if I were starting a team there is no question in my mind I would take McCool as my first pick , excellent at the draw and on the circle , superior defender , scores although not the best shooter , great in the clear and ground balls and a do it all between the 30’s player.
I don’t think it’s that close if your looking for an all around impact player.

About to get myself in trouble but here it is .Have been watching as many games as possible w the Tewaaraton in mind . Start w KO , probably the best finisher in the game but the eyeball test says a lot is a function of their offense and who they are playing. She ends up w a lot of 1 on 1 opportunities little of which is created by herself .
Shayna Precca deserves to be in this discussion , scoring at a high rate mainly thru her own effort creating her own opportunities . Neither player adds much other than scoring as not involved in the draw and neither great at riding.
Apuzzo is also in the discussion and I believe the best all around offensive player as in gets teammates involved but also scores . She is good at the draw not great and decent at the ride .
Casey Bear should be high on this list , does it all , good at the draw ; solid defense , scores on the offensive side .
That said if I were starting a team there is no question in my mind I would take McCool as my first pick , excellent at the draw and on the circle , superior defender , scores although not the best shooter , great in the clear and ground balls and a do it all between the 30’s player.
I don’t think it’s that close if your looking for an all around impact player.

Stony Brooks offense is designed to get layups (as all good offenses should be designed). Stony Brook also understands how to run a fast break (not just have someone charge to the goal).

It is really a function of coaching. Some coaches can develop an offensive scheme (and teach it) that can get the defense to slide/move/rotate and then move the ball fast enough to get that easy layup. Other coaches either do not understand it or can't teach it so the rely on players to try to run to the goal (create their own opportunity) which rarely will result in a championship. In most cases that stye of play will implode come playoff time and or be shut down by good coaching and solid team defense.

Give me the do it all midfielder who is selfless, plays great defense, hustles to get back on D, comes up with ground balls and knows when to go to goal and when to move the ball.

Agreed. Good analysis. If the award is for nifty passer and flashiest stick KO is a great option (Charlotte North at Duke might be better though because she is outstanding creating her own shot as well.) McCool is the best all around player in college.

Could possibly agree but as we all know team must be in the top 5. Duke is not very good so she out. also to keep in mind KO is not a one dimensional finisher she broke the single season assist record as well. Think Kiernan from Colorado is an interesting player to watch, do not think Maryland has a candidate

KO is not a one dimensional finisher, agreed. She is a great player, no argument here. Just think her overall impact on the game is not as great as someone like McCool. If there was an award for best offensive player, she is on the very short list. I believe some other players impact the overall game more is all.

If you're looking for a do it all player, no one other than a midfielder will qualify. That's a problem.

I think Charlotte North is a better attacker than KO. So IMO, if KO isn't even the best player at her position, and it's a position appropriately called "lazy middie", then someone like McCool is more deserving of the award.

I think Charlotte North is a better attacker than KO. So IMO, if KO isn't even the best player at her position, and it's a position appropriately called "lazy middie", then someone like McCool is more deserving of the award.

Also don't get BC at 3. ND outside of top 25 and BC beats them by 2. BC has played no one. Only other good game was USC and they get the OT win. Those results would suggest BC is more like the 10-11 team in country maybe, not #3.

Also don't get BC at 3. ND outside of top 25 and BC beats them by 2. BC has played no one. Only other good game was USC and they get the OT win. Those results would suggest BC is more like the 10-11 team in country maybe, not #3.

Also don't get BC at 3. ND outside of top 25 and BC beats them by 2. BC has played no one. Only other good game was USC and they get the OT win. Those results would suggest BC is more like the 10-11 team in country maybe, not #3.

IWLCA has BC at #3, most other polls have them at #2. You must be the I don’t like Acacia crybaby.

IWLCA Poll for Division I, March 19
Rank Team Record Points First Previous
1 Stony Brook 7-0 622 24 1
2 Maryland 6-1 586 2
3 Boston College 10-0 584 1 3
4 James Madison 8-0 540 5
5 North Carolina 6-2 535 4
6 Florida 6-2 501 6
7 Syracuse 5-2 471 7
8 Penn 7-0 424 11
9 Virginia 6-2 405 8
10 Loyola 5-2 395 13

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Because BC made the run through the playoffs and to the National Championship last year and is undefeated since. Good enough for me and every poll out there.

Really? What about #11 Navy and #19 UMass. Do they count?

laxpower.com has BC at #8

Really? What about #11 Navy and #19 UMass. Do they count?

Really? What about #11 Navy and #19 UMass. Do they count?

IWLCA has BC at #3, most other polls have them at #2. You must be the I don’t like Acacia crybaby.

And that #3 BC juggernaut puts a four-goal whooping on unranked Yale... Great job by the Yalies and another clear data point that BC is not the #3 team in the country.

And that #3 BC juggernaut puts a four-goal whooping on unranked Yale... Great job by the Yalies and another clear data point that BC is not the #3 team in the country.