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Northwestern is a good team. Stony Brook is a really good team. It will not be easy for anyone this year (including SBU). Without question there is a much deeper field of teams this year. Getting to the Final Four is going to be tough.

Good question. What's your answer?

Name the highest ranked team SB has played ... now BC. So you have a 1,2 that hasn't played any top 10 teams (no Navy is not. 1 goal win at home over Michigan???) BC will get a chance to prove themselves over the rest of the year. SB joke schedule.) Will listen to the nonsense all season until SB loses in NCAAs. Then the whining will begin.

My front runners for a Championship are Florida and Maryland .

Next with best shot at Final Four : Stony Brook, Boston College, Virginia, Syracuse , Northwestern .

JMU, Penn, Princeton, USC, Navy all competing to make it to the final 8 and a chance to knock someone off and get to Final Four.

Also in contention to make Final 8:Towson, Duke, Stanford , Loyola, Hopkins,Notre Dame, Georgetown , Colorado, Penn State.

Some very good teams will be left out of the Tournament this year.

Let me help you with a correction ... SBU is a really good offense. They are an ok defense and pretty poor in the midfield/draw. Having said that, it doesn't look there is a complete team out there, so it should be fun and interesting. It is a shame SBU doesn't play another meaningful game until the NCAAs. Certainly allows them to rest and stay healthier potentially than the teams that play real schedules. So they should have a big advantage come tournament time.

With new teams at the top of the rankings (teams that have never won anything) coaching will come into play this year like never before if the ranking holds for the season. Of the top 10 teams only 3 coaches have ever won anything. Teams like Florida should have won a couple by now with their talent but their coaching let them down. Its really tough to win the big one. Looks to be an exciting season

Princeton beat Brown 12-10 ... Let that sink in. Anyone else really think they are the #12 team in the country and better than Northwestern, USC and many others?

No....you've already started the whining.

Actually as usual the fans just don't know the rules. The UVA goalie in the last minute of the game dumped the ball back into the crease 2 times but both of those times the ball was passed to her while she was standing outside the crease so it is completely legal. Its why when someone tells you the refs completely ruined the game for a team I tend to not believe it.

Yes. They were neck and neck until late against Virginia while missing their top middy. I watched Virginia vs Syracuse and Virginia is very good. Northwestern lost to Duke (who was blown out by Stanford). Splitting hairs with 12 or 13. But no, not many teams ranked below are better. Time will tell but right now I would say teams many teams in the Top 15 are very close. Some teams play tough schedules and others play soft schedules. Princeton has a tough schedule (not as tough as Northwestern) but tougher than most. USC also right there. All 3 somewhere between 10-15 for now.

The only question on that play by the VA goalie at the end of the game is whether she stepped on goal circle line before she tossed ball in. check the replay in slow mo. Everything else she did was legal.

Refs made correct call on the VA goalie. They blew it on that yellow card to VA on the free shot. That is not a card.

The theory you apply to today's current rankings " Of the top 10 teams only 3 coaches have ever won anything." can be applied to every ranking, every day of all 100+ teams for the last 15 years running. Hope you didn't spend too much time to come up with that tid bit of wisdom.

Brown is better than you think. Only down 8-7 at the half with Boston College. Brown is not top 20 but they are close.

So don't discount SB UNC and Maryland come crunch time. The others have proved they have trouble getting it done

Here is a bit more math for you... NU won 66.66% of the draw controls and SU scored 60% of the goals. I will take the later stat, you can have your draw math. How many additional draws and goals would NU have lost with a legal draw stick? By the way, you also lost on your home field.

I think the most interesting thing about this banter here is that SBU again got killed on the draw. It will come back to bite them if they don't figure it out. They have played a grand total of zero top 10 teams (at least in current ranking) and will not the rest of the season. Come NCAAs, if they haven't improved meaningfully in that area, they will not win the national championship. Their offense is great, but you cannot lose that many possessions against a series of top teams like they should face in the NCAAs and not run into problems at some point. I hope I'm wrong, but this is a problem.

With all the criticism that takes place on this board puzzling how the disgusting playing style of Syracuse doesn’t get a reaction. Dirty play after dirty play. Helmets and cross checks

Gait, Spallina and extremely weak officiating are going to be the reason helmets with be mandatory within the next 5 years. Such a shame and uneccesary. If the refs actually threw people out of games the hacking would stop.

Division I Women’s Lacrosse 3-5-2018

Rank. Institution. Points. FPV. Record. Last Week
1 Stony Brook. 622. 24. 4-0. 1
2. Maryland. 579. 0. 4-1. 2
3. Florida. 569. 0. 4-1. 4
4. Boston College. 566. 1. 7-0. 6
5. North Carolina. 498. 0. 3-2. 3
6. Virginia. 492. 0. 5-0. 9
7. James Madison. 490. 0. 5-0. 7
8. Syracuse. 423. 0. 3-1. 5
9. Northwestern. 403. 0. 4-2. 8
10. Towson. 402. 0. 3-0. 10
11. Navy (USNA). 362. 0. 4-1. 11
12. Southern California. 350. 0. 2-2. 12
13. Penn. 338. 0. 4-0. 15
14. Princeton. 328. 0. 3-1. 14
15. Notre Dame. 250. 0. 5-2. 17
16. Loyola (MD). 207. 0. 1-2. 23
17. Penn State. 190. 0. 3-2. 13
18. Stanford. 170. 0. 3-2. 25
19. Colorado. 165. 0. 3-2. 22
20. Denver. 163. 0. 3-1. 21
21. Duke. 160. 0. 4-2. 16
22. Cornell. 128. 0. 1-2. 18
23. Johns Hopkins. 89. 0. 4-2. 20
24. Virginia Tech. 68. 0. 4-3. 19
25. Georgetown. 34. 0. 4-1. NR

Division II Women’s Lacrosse 3-5-2018

Rank. Institution. Points. FPV. Record. Last Week
1. Florida Southern. 621. 21. 4-0. 1
2. Adelphi. 586. 0. 2-1. 2
3. Lindenwood. 585. 4. 5-0. 3
4. Le Moyne. 552. 0. 1-0. 4
5. LIU Post. 516. 0. 3-0. 5
6. Florida Tech. 510. 0. 4-0. 6
7. New Haven. 458. 0. 1-0. 7
8. Limestone. 437. 0. 3-1. 10
9. Mercy. 402. 0. 4-0. 11
10. Queens University (NC). 378. 0. 1-2. 9
11. Indianapolis. 347. 0. 4-1. T-15
12. Regis (CO). 331. 0. 3-1. 12
13. Rollins. 316. 0. 3-2. 14
14. West Chester. 301. 0. 2-0. T-15
15. East Stroudsburg. 236. 0. 0-1. 8
16. New York Tech. 200. 0. 1-1. 13
17. Mercyhurst. 197. 0. 0-1. 17
18. Indiana (PA). 195. 0. 2-0. 18
19. Pace. 169. 0. 1-0. 19
20. Stonehill. 165. 0. 2-0. 20
21. McKendree. 117. 0. 1-0. 21
22. Grand Valley State. 113. 0. 1-0. 22
23. Tampa. 109. 0. 2-2. 23
24. Tiffin. 70. 0. 1-1. NR
25. Lock Haven. 46. 0. 2-0. NR

Division III Women’s Lacrosse 3-5-2018

Rank. Institution. Points. FPV. Record. Last Week
1. Gettysburg. 624. 24. 3-0. 1
2. TCNJ. 596. 0. 2-0. 2.
3 Trinity (CT). 556. 0. 0-0. 3
4. Middlebury. 550. 0. 2-0. 4
5. Salisbury. 525. 1. 3-0. T-6
6. York (PA). 507. 0. 2-0. T-6
7. Mary Washington. 436. 0. 5-0. T-11
8. Ithaca. 425. 0. 2-0. T-11
9. Franklin & Marshall. 368. 0. 2-2. 10
10. Washington and Lee. 358. 0. 1-3. 8
11. Catholic. 355. 0. 2-1. 15
12. Tufts. 333. 0. 1-0. 19
13. William Smith. 283. 0. 0-1. 5
14. Colby. 257. 0. 0-1. 9
15. SUNY Cortland. 249. 0. 1-0. 17
16. St. John Fisher. 210. 0. 0-0. 18
17. Hamilton. 204. 0. 0-1. 13
T-18. Messiah. 178. 0. 1-2. 16
T-18. Wesleyan (CT). 178. 0. 1-0. 20
20. Amherst. 176. 0. 1-0. NR
21. Bowdoin. 145. 0. 1-0. 23
22. Brockport. 131. 0. 0-2. 14
23. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps. 89. 0. 3-1. 22
24. St. Mary's (MD). 84. 0. 2-2. 21
25. SUNY Geneseo. 74. 0. 1-0. NR

[quote=baldbear]Division I Women’s Lacrosse 3-5-2018

Rank. Institution. Points. FPV. Record. Last Week
1 Stony Brook. 622. 24. 4-0. 1
2. Maryland. 579. 0. 4-1. 2
3. Florida. 569. 0. 4-1. 4
4. Boston College. 566. 1. 7-0. 6
5. North Carolina. 498. 0. 3-2. 3
6. Virginia. 492. 0. 5-0. 9
7. James Madison. 490. 0. 5-0. 7
8. Syracuse. 423. 0. 3-1. 5
9. Northwestern. 403. 0. 4-2. 8
10. Towson. 402. 0. 3-0. 10
11. Navy (USNA). 362. 0. 4-1. 11
12. Southern California. 350. 0. 2-2. 12
13. Penn. 338. 0. 4-0. 15
14. Princeton. 328. 0. 3-1. 14
15. Notre Dame. 250. 0. 5-2. 17
16. Loyola (MD). 207. 0. 1-2. 23
17. Penn State. 190. 0. 3-2. 13
18. Stanford. 170. 0. 3-2. 25
19. Colorado. 165. 0. 3-2. 22
20. Denver. 163. 0. 3-1. 21
21. Duke. 160. 0. 4-2. 16
22. Cornell. 128. 0. 1-2. 18
23. Johns Hopkins. 89. 0. 4-2. 20
24. Virginia Tech. 68. 0. 4-3. 19
25. Georgetown. 34. 0. 4-1. NR



JMU is 7? They beat UNC and UNC has 2 losses already. Virginia had a good win against Cuse but lets not get carried away jumping up 5 spots.

Worst of all the polls.

JMU
BC
Virginia

All belong in the Top 4.

Northwestern too high.

Penn State not Top 20.

Cornell , Denver, Virginia Tech should not be ranked.

Aside from UNC being a little lower, this is the most accurate poll. This takes strength of schedule into account. JMU has 1 Quality win. Virginia has 1 quality win. A close loss to another top 5 team shouldn't effect the rankings much. Someone has to lose. You are probably of the same mindset that UCF is better than Alabama in college football this year. They were undefeated with 1 quality win and people are calling for them to be National champs. If you play a tougher schedule you are way more likely to lose a game or 2.

Through my years of experience I have found this poll to be the best. Perfect? No.

Exactly !

Or start tallying the fouls like basketball. People would clean up their games pronto.

Who should be ahead of Northwestern that isn't?? I don't see one.

I can guarantee you that JMU and Virginia will not be top 10 in polls come May, BC the only one of the three that a chance of being top 5

NU blown out at home! Should not even be top 10, 12 or 13 at best!

U do realize as an SB fan, a comment like that weakens your argument that SB should be #1 right? What you should be saying is "NU is really good, and SB still beat them by 5 on their field." Get it?

Otherwise the answer is, SB hasn't played anybody good, and don't really deserve to be #1.

But I guess that's why you went to a place like SB. See, if you were able to get into Northwestern, you'd be smarter than that.

Newsflash. Nobody knows what a good win and a bad win is and we won’t know for a few more weeks. The venom some people spew over polls that mean zero is insane. Let the season play out crazy Dads. its funny tho once some of you lose the lacrosse argument turns to “ my kid is smarter than yours “ lolol it’s early have fun watching our daughters without the crap

The offense won't be resting - 3 career scoring records in sight and lots of cupcakes to beat up on.

9 minus 6 = 3. They moved up 3 spots.

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Let me help you with a correction ... SBU is a really good offense. They are an ok defense and pretty poor in the midfield/draw. Having said that, it doesn't look there is a complete team out there, so it should be fun and interesting. It is a shame SBU doesn't play another meaningful game until the NCAAs. Certainly allows them to rest and stay healthier potentially than the teams that play real schedules. So they should have a big advantage come tournament time.[/quote]

The offense won't be resting - 3 career scoring records in sight and lots of cupcakes to beat up on.

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Good point. Forgot about how unsportsmanlike JS and crew are. Sorry.

This week will help shake out what exactly so far is a good win some quality matchups true tests for BC Syracuse etc

BC will not be in the top 5 at end of year either as soon as they start laying their ACC schedule and not the cupcake non conference games they will be exposed.

BC vs USC
CUSE VS Florida

I'll take the home teams