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[quote=Anonymous]Sam Apuzzo wow... everyone says Ohlmiller has POTY wrapped up but look at Apuzzo. Puts up a ton of points in the ACC and has middie like stats in terms of draws,GBS and CTs. She is such a complete player, today she was face guarded and still put up 10 points. Apuzzo and Kent will be unstoppable together, if the rumor about Kent is true, watch out for BC next year.


She is great. Lets see how BC does against a real top 15 team. Haven't played one yet, despite Navy's silly current ranking. 1 goal win over Michigan at home??? If Kent doesn't play they r not a top 10 team by end of year. Next year you are right, if kent plays they will be a final 4 contender again. Despite their highly overrated coach, btw.

Usc will beat them next week

USC will have to score more than 5 goals to beat BC. Only 5 goals scored vs Northwestern not a good offensive performance.


5 goals=not a good offensive performance...thanks Mr obvious

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Acacia has done an amazing job with that team. Look who's coming next year, Weeks twins and Medijid, stellar recruiting class. Although im surprised that Abbey Ngai has not been in net, she is dominate.


Acacia is a barely passable coach. She is a good recruiter. Kinda like a used car saleswoman. Her assistants do the actual coaching.


ND is interesting situation year after top recruit after top recruit followed by mediocrity. How long can a school stay the course


There are more bad coaches than good ones just like there is more average players than exceptional. That's why the same teams keep winning. Good coaches and good talent. Its so hard for these others teams to break into the elite with the coaches they have.

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[quote=Anonymous]Sam Apuzzo wow... everyone says Ohlmiller has POTY wrapped up but look at Apuzzo. Puts up a ton of points in the ACC and has middie like stats in terms of draws,GBS and CTs. She is such a complete player, today she was face guarded and still put up 10 points. Apuzzo and Kent will be unstoppable together, if the rumor about Kent is true, watch out for BC next year.


She is great. Lets see how BC does against a real top 15 team. Haven't played one yet, despite Navy's silly current ranking. 1 goal win over Michigan at home??? If Kent doesn't play they r not a top 10 team by end of year. Next year you are right, if kent plays they will be a final 4 contender again. Despite their highly overrated coach, btw.

Usc will beat them next week

USC will have to score more than 5 goals to beat BC. Only 5 goals scored vs Northwestern not a good offensive performance.


5 goals=not a good offensive performance...thanks Mr obvious


Also = great defensive performance.

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Acacia has done an amazing job with that team. Look who's coming next year, Weeks twins and Medijid, stellar recruiting class. Although im surprised that Abbey Ngai has not been in net, she is dominate.


Acacia is a barely passable coach. She is a good recruiter. Kinda like a used car saleswoman. Her assistants do the actual coaching.


ND is interesting situation year after top recruit after top recruit followed by mediocrity. How long can a school stay the course


There are more bad coaches than good ones just like there is more average players than exceptional. That's why the same teams keep winning. Good coaches and good talent. Its so hard for these others teams to break into the elite with the coaches they have.

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sam Apuzzo wow... everyone says Ohlmiller has POTY wrapped up but look at Apuzzo. Puts up a ton of points in the ACC and has middie like stats in terms of draws,GBS and CTs. She is such a complete player, today she was face guarded and still put up 10 points. Apuzzo and Kent will be unstoppable together, if the rumor about Kent is true, watch out for BC next year.


She is great. Lets see how BC does against a real top 15 team. Haven't played one yet, despite Navy's silly current ranking. 1 goal win over Michigan at home??? If Kent doesn't play they r not a top 10 team by end of year. Next year you are right, if kent plays they will be a final 4 contender again. Despite their highly overrated coach, btw.

Usc will beat them next week

USC will have to score more than 5 goals to beat BC. Only 5 goals scored vs Northwestern not a good offensive performance.


5 goals=not a good offensive performance...thanks Mr obvious


Also = great defensive performance.[/quot

Usc haters are going to say offense no good...Nw defender mom and dads will say amazing defense...everyone talking their own book...

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sam Apuzzo wow... everyone says Ohlmiller has POTY wrapped up but look at Apuzzo. Puts up a ton of points in the ACC and has middie like stats in terms of draws,GBS and CTs. She is such a complete player, today she was face guarded and still put up 10 points. Apuzzo and Kent will be unstoppable together, if the rumor about Kent is true, watch out for BC next year.


She is great. Lets see how BC does against a real top 15 team. Haven't played one yet, despite Navy's silly current ranking. 1 goal win over Michigan at home??? If Kent doesn't play they r not a top 10 team by end of year. Next year you are right, if kent plays they will be a final 4 contender again. Despite their highly overrated coach, btw.

Usc will beat them next week

USC will have to score more than 5 goals to beat BC. Only 5 goals scored vs Northwestern not a good offensive performance.


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Usc haters are going to say offense no good...Nw defender mom and dads will say amazing defense...everyone talking their own book...


Did you watch the game? Goalie made a bunch of saves (named Big ten D player of the week) and the backer zone was played very well. I think SB has a good zone defense. USC scored 10 against them without Kerrigan Miller. I think giving NUs D in that game credit is ok. Don't you?

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


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East vs west again. NU plays a killer schedule of big time programs every year that's why even when they have 8 or 9 losses the get serious consideration for the tournament. It would be great if SB played the NU schedule. Then we would really get a feel of how good they were. Its a lot easier to get UP for every 4th or 5th game vs having to bring it almost every game. People have to stop with the cupcakes from the west USC, Stanford, Colorado Denver and the rest

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


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I would have to go with Apuzzo #1, She does so much more than McCool. McCool 2nd best college player this year. 3rd is up for grabs, could be anybody.

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


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I would have to go with Apuzzo #1, She does so much more than McCool. McCool 2nd best college player this year. 3rd is up for grabs, could be anybody.


Everyone has their opinion. thanks

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


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I would have to go with Apuzzo #1, She does so much more than McCool. McCool 2nd best college player this year. 3rd is up for grabs, could be anybody.


That's just a ridiculous statement, "so much more" .Offensively I think Apuzzo gets the nod slightly, at the draw I give McCool the edge but close, and defensively its not even close. There is a reason Apuzzo plays attack and you have to take into account that Apuzzo never comes out of a game while McCool does so you would expect Apuzzo to put up bigger numbers.Watch McCool on the defensive side , she may be the best 1 on 1 defender on the country. Apuzzo is no doubt a great player but if I were starting a team I would take the player that can do it all .That said I don't think Apuuzo gets the recognition she deserves.

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


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I would have to go with Apuzzo #1, She does so much more than McCool. McCool 2nd best college player this year. 3rd is up for grabs, could be anybody.



That's just a ridiculous statement, "so much more" .Offensively I think Apuzzo gets the nod slightly, at the draw I give McCool the edge but close, and defensively its not even close. There is a reason Apuzzo plays attack and you have to take into account that Apuzzo never comes out of a game while McCool does so you would expect Apuzzo to put up bigger numbers.Watch McCool on the defensive side , she may be the best 1 on 1 defender on the country. Apuzzo is no doubt a great player but if I were starting a team I would take the player that can do it all .That said I don't think Apuuzo gets the recognition she deserves.


Where have you been? Defense is easy, anyone can play it and it is not important .

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whenever the conversation turns to a player that does it all, KO slips a little

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool


KO should not even be in the conversaton with Apuzzo, McCool. KO good offensively, that's it. Apuzzo, McCool do everything.

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Apuzzo is better on the draw than McCool. Apuzzo also is a menace in the ride.

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool


KO should not even be in the conversaton with Apuzzo, McCool. KO good offensively, that's it. Apuzzo, McCool do everything.



wow, someone speaking lilke they really understand the sport. BTW, Apuzzo is a Mid who is playing Att. Would dominate both ends. Best player by far.

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"wow, someone speaking lilke they really understand the sport. BTW, Apuzzo is a Mid who is playing Att. Would dominate both ends. Best player by far."

This may be the silliest comment I have read. If she is playing attack then she is not a mid.If she would dominate both ends then they would have her playing both ends but honestly is not fast enough .She has an amazing stick and lax IQ but not really elite midfielder type speed.

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool


KO should not even be in the conversaton with Apuzzo, McCool. KO good offensively, that's it. Apuzzo, McCool do everything.



wow, someone speaking lilke they really understand the sport. BTW, Apuzzo is a Mid who is playing Att. Would dominate both ends. Best player by far.


Whatever. The best player by far at the NCAA level likely won't see the field this year unfortunately. If she does, BC has a shot again. If she doesn't, next year BC will be unreal. Kenzie Kent, if she had not also been such a darn good hockey player, would have been a multiple time tewie winner. Fact. Still should have been last year. All the laxie elitists just can't stand that someone can not touch a stick for 9 months and then step on the field mid season and dominate every team and player in the country. If tewie is for best player, kent should already have one.

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool


KO should not even be in the conversaton with Apuzzo, McCool. KO good offensively, that's it. Apuzzo, McCool do everything.



wow, someone speaking lilke they really understand the sport. BTW, Apuzzo is a Mid who is playing Att. Would dominate both ends. Best player by far.


Apuzzo, is NOT a great defender. There are better 2 way middies including McCool. Everything else I would agree with what has been said. If I was taking one to start a team I would take appuzo her effect on the circle ,the offense and the ride would be enough for me. Great kid too!

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool


KO should not even be in the conversaton with Apuzzo, McCool. KO good offensively, that's it. Apuzzo, McCool do everything.



wow, someone speaking lilke they really understand the sport. BTW, Apuzzo is a Mid who is playing Att. Would dominate both ends. Best player by far.


Whatever. The best player by far at the NCAA level likely won't see the field this year unfortunately. If she does, BC has a shot again. If she doesn't, next year BC will be unreal. Kenzie Kent, if she had not also been such a darn good hockey player, would have been a multiple time tewie winner. Fact. Still should have been last year. All the laxie elitists just can't stand that someone can not touch a stick for 9 months and then step on the field mid season and dominate every team and player in the country. If tewie is for best player, kent should already have one.


If Mia Hamm would have played lax, would have been a 4x tewie...you bc koolaide drinking windbags gotta settle down...best players,best coach,best recruits and best hockey players...blah blah blah

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool


KO should not even be in the conversaton with Apuzzo, McCool. KO good offensively, that's it. Apuzzo, McCool do everything.




wow, someone speaking lilke they really understand the sport. BTW, Apuzzo is a Mid who is playing Att. Would dominate both ends. Best player by far.


Whatever. The best player by far at the NCAA level likely won't see the field this year unfortunately. If she does, BC has a shot again. If she doesn't, next year BC will be unreal. Kenzie Kent, if she had not also been such a darn good hockey player, would have been a multiple time tewie winner. Fact. Still should have been last year. All the laxie elitists just can't stand that someone can not touch a stick for 9 months and then step on the field mid season and dominate every team and player in the country. If tewie is for best player, kent should already have one.


Please , Kent is overhyped , she can score but that is it and Ohmiller is better at it than her , for that matter so is Murphy . What is there 3 women’s NCAA hockey teams , what a joke , so good at hockey . I hear Ohmiller is the best curler in the NCAA .

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What happened to Albany this year?

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool


KO should not even be in the conversaton with Apuzzo, McCool. KO good offensively, that's it. Apuzzo, McCool do everything.



wow, someone speaking lilke they really understand the sport. BTW, Apuzzo is a Mid who is playing Att. Would dominate both ends. Best player by far.


Whatever. The best player by far at the NCAA level likely won't see the field this year unfortunately. If she does, BC has a shot again. If she doesn't, next year BC will be unreal. Kenzie Kent, if she had not also been such a darn good hockey player, would have been a multiple time tewie winner. Fact. Still should have been last year. All the laxie elitists just can't stand that someone can not touch a stick for 9 months and then step on the field mid season and dominate every team and player in the country. If tewie is for best player, kent should already have one.


Kent is not good at hockey.....

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool


KO should not even be in the conversaton with Apuzzo, McCool. KO good offensively, that's it. Apuzzo, McCool do everything.



wow, someone speaking lilke they really understand the sport. BTW, Apuzzo is a Mid who is playing Att. Would dominate both ends. Best player by far.


Whatever. The best player by far at the NCAA level likely won't see the field this year unfortunately. If she does, BC has a shot again. If she doesn't, next year BC will be unreal. Kenzie Kent, if she had not also been such a darn good hockey player, would have been a multiple time tewie winner. Fact. Still should have been last year. All the laxie elitists just can't stand that someone can not touch a stick for 9 months and then step on the field mid season and dominate every team and player in the country. If tewie is for best player, kent should already have one.


If Mia Hamm would have played lax, would have been a 4x tewie...you bc koolaide drinking windbags gotta settle down...best players,best coach,best recruits and best hockey players...blah blah blah


Is Kenzie Kent the best player in the country at the NCAA level?

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool


KO should not even be in the conversaton with Apuzzo, McCool. KO good offensively, that's it. Apuzzo, McCool do everything.



wow, someone speaking lilke they really understand the sport. BTW, Apuzzo is a Mid who is playing Att. Would dominate both ends. Best player by far.


Whatever. The best player by far at the NCAA level likely won't see the field this year unfortunately. If she does, BC has a shot again. If she doesn't, next year BC will be unreal. Kenzie Kent, if she had not also been such a darn good hockey player, would have been a multiple time tewie winner. Fact. Still should have been last year. All the laxie elitists just can't stand that someone can not touch a stick for 9 months and then step on the field mid season and dominate every team and player in the country. If tewie is for best player, kent should already have one.


If Mia Hamm would have played lax, would have been a 4x tewie...you bc koolaide drinking windbags gotta settle down...best players,best coach,best recruits and best hockey players...blah blah blah


Not sure of that. Doesn't have hands I hear.

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


Apuzzo or KO... both are better than Mcool


KO should not even be in the conversaton with Apuzzo, McCool. KO good offensively, that's it. Apuzzo, McCool do everything.




wow, someone speaking lilke they really understand the sport. BTW, Apuzzo is a Mid who is playing Att. Would dominate both ends. Best player by far.


Whatever. The best player by far at the NCAA level likely won't see the field this year unfortunately. If she does, BC has a shot again. If she doesn't, next year BC will be unreal. Kenzie Kent, if she had not also been such a darn good hockey player, would have been a multiple time tewie winner. Fact. Still should have been last year. All the laxie elitists just can't stand that someone can not touch a stick for 9 months and then step on the field mid season and dominate every team and player in the country. If tewie is for best player, kent should already have one.


Please , Kent is overhyped , she can score but that is it and Ohmiller is better at it than her , for that matter so is Murphy . What is there 3 women’s NCAA hockey teams , what a joke , so good at hockey . I hear Ohmiller is the best curler in the NCAA .


please. She so much faster than ohmiller. Guess u didn't watch the finals last year. Carried the team on her back. 10 points. relentless ride. worked the draw circle. So much more valuable than oh. Oh is as one dimensional as they get. Murphy??? r u out of your mind???? what an SB DB

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If any other player took 20+ shots in a game they would score goals too - everyone remembers the winning goal, but she played very poorly against MD

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Albany does have a very young roster this year and a change at head coach. Not sure why the coaching change.

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coaching change was late. They get a pass

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They were ranked top 20 in preseason rankings no?

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They were ranked top 20 in preseason rankings no?


Again it just shows you how worthless all these pols are, the only one that matters is the last one

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Stanford at Duke tomorrow ... prediction: Duke 15-10

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If any other player took 20+ shots in a game they would score goals too - everyone remembers the winning goal, but she played very poorly against MD


I watched that game and was thinking the same exact thing. Reminded me of John Starks game seven NBA finals. He/she never stopped shooting regardless of a horrendous amount of misses. Extremely low percentage shots that ended up as possession changes. If your going to take a million shots at least aim for the pipe. Would rather see it go out of bounds and get the ball back or come off the pipe for a 50/50 ball. Yeah she had a few goals in the end and the game win assist, but overall it was an ugly game.

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Stony Brook predictions for this weekend??

Anyone taking Northwestern?

SB 16-9

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If you were starting a team and you could pick Apuzzo, KO or McCool who would you pick. The answer to that question says a lot for who the best player in the country is. I'm sure there are other girls to consider but these are the big 3 in my opinion.


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If any other player took 20+ shots in a game they would score goals too - everyone remembers the winning goal, but she played very poorly
against MD


I watched that game and was thinking the same exact thing. Reminded me of John Starks game seven NBA finals. He/she never stopped shooting regardless of a horrendous amount of misses. Extremely low percentage shots that ended up as possession changes. If your going to take a million shots at least aim for the pipe. Would rather see it go out of bounds and get the ball back or come off the pipe for a 50/50 ball. Yeah she had a few goals in the end and the game win assist, but overall it was an ugly game.


Honestly did you even watch the game . First off she did miss a lot of shots but of the 11 she missed 8 were recovered by UNC . I would much prefer they miss the goal entirely and if the low attack does their job its no problem , certainly better than throwing it in the goalies stick. “ Game win assist” or as they say the GWA , lol. She had the winnng goal. I guess the draw controls , more than any other player , or the awesome job on defense matters little . Sorry but Apuzzo and Ohmiller essentially play a weak schedule ,BC because their non conference schedule is an embarrassment , and SB conference schedule is an embarrassment .UNC plays a tougher schedule than just about every othe team , who plays a more difficult one ?

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Stony Brook predictions for this weekend??

Anyone taking Northwestern?

SB 16-9

People are forgetting NW is adding a fantastic player that was out last year. They will win draws and the game NW 10-9

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Stony Brook predictions for this weekend??

Anyone taking Northwestern?

SB 16-9

People are forgetting NW is adding a fantastic player that was out last year. They will win draws and the game NW 10-9


I agree, I believe all of the extra possessions NU will have due to their domination of the draw circle will be Stony Brook's demise. I hope not but you can't give a strong team that many more opportunities. NU 13 Stony Brook 11

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Stony Brook predictions for this weekend??

Anyone taking Northwestern?

SB 16-9

People are forgetting NW is adding a fantastic player that was out last year. They will win draws and the game NW 10-9


NU will be NG after they face SB!

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