BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums MID-ATLANTIC LACROSSE MARYLAND FORUM Boys 2022 - 8th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018

New Cavs S helmets look butt stupid. Like a Cleveland Browns helmet with pathetic stickers.

AND they still play in snowflake tourneys/divisions. Try to step up the competition once in awhile. Even Evergreen played Madlax Capital.

My kid is 16, a Junior in HS and has been playing varsity for 2 years. He would be D1 monster with 14 year olds. LOL It does even out. The hold back kids burn out, get injured or are not the stars anymore and can not handle it. What comes around goes around. Good luck.

Actually,, what I am talking about is my 14 year-old, non-holdback kid who does not turn 15 until the final quarter of this year. He is one of the older grade based kids, but a younger age based player. He plays and has played with a lot of 2021 boys. Like many of these boys, he gets screwed one way and benefits from the other. stink it up and go play. If you work at the game. Six months is not gonna make or break you.

Once that holdback hits HS there is no advantage. Unless he is a real standout he will play against much better players at the same graduation year. The "king of the hill" holdbacks we play against some continue to do well but most fall off the radar as their younger counterparts practice harder and longer. The problem in youth sports are the parents thinking their kid is THE kid.

The advantage is much less as HS and college are concerned. With many players no advantage at all in HS. But being older does help many. There is a reason why many teams redshirt freshman in college. And if you can have a younger or older player of equal ability, most would take the older.

Well it seems there are no real rules, off the field, in club lacrosse. My son is an August bday, 13 now, in 8th grade and a solid player on a 2022 team, where he is perpetually one of the youngest every year. My plan is to just put him on a 2023 team this spring, maybe even a 2024 team. If anyone asks us about his grade, we just lie and say we plan on downgrading next year for private school. I am 100% sure no coach will bat an eye. I do feel sorry for the unlucky 2023/24 on-age kid that he will replace. This is the wild west, you really can do whatever you want.

Well it seems there are no real rules, off the field, in club lacrosse. My son is an August bday, 13 now, in 8th grade and a solid player on a 2022 team, where he is perpetually one of the youngest every year. My plan is to just put him on a 2023 team this spring, maybe even a 2024 team. If anyone asks us about his grade, we just lie and say we plan on downgrading next year for private school. I am 100% sure no coach will bat an eye. I do feel sorry for the unlucky 2023/24 on-age kid that he will replace. This is the wild west, you really can do whatever you want.

You better check the high school eligibility rules (WCAC, MIAA, IAC or for whatever State your kid attends public school) before you venture too far down that path. He may have been born a month too early for a two year holdback. There have been a number of kids whose parents didn't do the due diligence who got to watch a lot of lacrosse their senior year.

YES , please go check all the rules that you already agreed to. In fact double check them. Its clear they were not checked before you agreed to play in the elite level or any level for that matter. NO one likes a holdback but every team has them and they will continue to have them unless RULES are changed. Until then don't play if you feel you are being cheated. If a team is cheating than prove it . Holdbacks are a very small percentage just like the ones who consistently whine and cry that they are being cheated. My son and the rest of his team look forward to the challenge and have embraced any holdback on the team . If your still so bitter about this at this age group than I hope you player doesn't expect to play in High School.

Understand there is talk of limiting elite to seven teams, all of which will play each other once before playoffs. Hawks, RR, t91, D'acks, DCE, Koopers, Madlax. Others from elite group last year to be pushed to AA, which will either be limited to no more than 10 teams, or have two divisions of seven. Wild card is what to do with Richmond Hawks if they join the league. To be hashed out at competition meeting.

Understand there is talk of limiting elite to seven teams, all of which will play each other once before playoffs. Hawks, RR, t91, D'acks, DCE, Koopers, Madlax. Others from elite group last year to be pushed to AA, which will either be limited to no more than 10 teams, or have two divisions of seven. Wild card is what to do with Richmond Hawks if they join the league. To be hashed out at competition meeting.

Where are the Crabs?

Crabs would definitely be in, RM would have a heart attack. Even though they aren't that good, they are better than Dbacks & Madlax. Maybe even RR & T91.

Crabs would definitely be in, RM would have a heart attack. Even though they aren't that good, they are better than Dbacks & Madlax. Maybe even RR & T91.

Crabs would definitely be in, RM would have a heart attack. Even though they aren't that good, they are better than Dbacks & Madlax. Maybe even RR & T91.

Now way Crabs are better then any of those teams. Not sold on Dukes/Koopers team either for summer tournaments yes to play in a league not so much. A lot of changes to all teams since last summer. DCE will be the team to beat this year.

Crabs would definitely be in, RM would have a heart attack. Even though they aren't that good, they are better than Dbacks & Madlax. Maybe even RR & T91.

The crabs 2022 team has never beaten MadLax. Please check your facts. That crabs team isn't very good, neither is MD91. Richmond is better than both crabs and 91.

The crabs 2022 team has never beaten MadLax. Please check your facts. That crabs team isn't very good, neither is MD91. Richmond is better than both crabs and 91.

It is a new year with holdbacks coming out in droves. Crabs will be the team to beat.

Not sure Richmond would be 3 but they would compete.
Crabs are only good when they can have guest players.
Looking at the list of teams for HOCO I would think that Hawks , FCA and Crabs would all be added into that group. 10 teams would be great top 6 make playoffs

I agree. 10 teams, two five team divisions. Blind draw as to placement. Top 3 in each division make a playoff with winner of each division getting a bye. Play 6 games. 4 against teams in your division. And another 2 (also selected by a blind draw) in the other division. This would make for great competition and allow this platform to continue to evolve, grow and get better. Ties would be broken on the basis of goal differential and not "head to head" due to the blind draw aspect. Just thoughts.

I would say 1 division 10 teams play everyone once and 9 games top 6 make playoffs make 1 and 2 get a bye and 3 to 6 have quarter final

I would say 1 division 10 teams play everyone once and 9 games top 6 make playoffs make 1 and 2 get a bye and 3 to 6 have quarter final

No way there are 9 games. Only played 6 last year. Who cares about HoCo anyway? The kids almost all play 5 days a week at school. Some clubs use the spring to get ready for summer and others take it far more seriously. Too much is made of spring results.

You clearly have no clue regarding 8th grade lacrosse. Middle school lacrosse is intramural in nature. Everyone plays and most schools don't care about winning and losing. Harco (with the demise of the NPYLL) is now the only game in town. Everyone takes it seriously. Summer tournaments are great but the reality is, folks go on vacation and/or play in showcases. As such, you never know if a team is at full strength. Aside from illnesses and injuries, most teams are playing with a full roster (save the super regional national teams like the Dukes) in the Spring.

You clearly have no clue regarding 8th grade lacrosse. Middle school lacrosse is intramural in nature. Everyone plays and most schools don't care about winning and losing. Harco (with the demise of the NPYLL) is now the only game in town. Everyone takes it seriously. Summer tournaments are great but the reality is, folks go on vacation and/or play in showcases. As such, you never know if a team is at full strength. Aside from illnesses and injuries, most teams are playing with a full roster (save the super regional national teams like the Dukes) in the Spring.

Is lax Power and PLC moving up to Elite?

Is lax Power and PLC moving up to Elite?

Lax Factory

PLC is imploding and lost most of their better players. Who the heck is lax power? Do you mean Lax Factory? Lax Factory has played teams in the Elite division in the past and has gotten destroyed. There are no teams that were in AA last year that can compete with the teams in the Elite division. Next Level will move down to AA. Dukes/Koopers will be new team in Elite and Richmond Hawks also if they choose to make the trip. That's it.

Hawks
RR
Crabs
FCA
Dukes/Koopers
91MD
DC Express
Madlax
Diamondbacks
Richmond Hawks(Maybe)

Anyone other than those teams are not going to win a game just as Next Level found out last year and 3d, Storm and Cannons the year before.

Just saw the first draft of the elite group, it was sent around via email. Included Hawks, RR, Crabs, FCA, Dukes, & 91MD - all others are in AA.

Just saw the first draft of the elite group, it was sent around via email. Included Hawks, RR, Crabs, FCA, Dukes, & 91MD - all others are in AA.