BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2024 - 6th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018

bluefish troll who is now with 24? Thanks for the info. Funny how small this world is.

Shawn Burns is the coach...$3600 minimum for only 4 touney's is insane. They have a free tryout tonight at their place if you don't have a better option.

Not $3600, its $2900 and its 5 tourney, get your facts straight

CLASS OF 2024 COSTS:

Season (MID September – Early July)
New Helmet
Custom Team Gloves
Team Bag
Uniform (Jersey, Shorts, Shooting Shirt, Socks)
Helmet Stickers
Indoor Facility Winter Training Sessions
5 Tournaments
Team Head Coach and Administrative Staff for all 8 Months
Outdoor fields for 25 – 30 Fall/Winter/Spring/Summer Practices & maintenance
Team Equipment Fund (Balls, Cones, etc.)
Total Cost: $2,900

He is the reason why 24 has 3 teams at this age.

They will do way more than required and more than 4 tourneys. The B team might be a better call than the so called A team.

SB is a good guy. goes the extra mile - he coached my son @ Bluefish 2 years ago.

After Madlax 2024, there is nothing else to talk about, LI Daddys ...

SB. ON IGLOO B. IS A steroid head And he sucks as a coach

There is zero shot of them being beter than their A team. They, including AA are making calls basically begging kids to join.

There you are! I knew it wouldn't take long for you to come out of your hole.

so much daddy ball in this organization. who cares never going to get there

oh you again. so pathetic. you're not even a madlax parent.

MADLAX going DOWN this YEAR!!! wait and see!!!!

Express 2024 A going to be very good this year. Cut a lot of players to bring in better players. They will all be able to play in the 2019 WSYL..Pls stop saying this team has soooo many holdbacks.

Sounds like team24 is a little upset that igloo grabbed some of there kids. Keep having those awesome practices on a quarter field in GC. Welcome to travel lacrosse boys!

UM--- Hello.. do the math-- the ACCURATE age for a 2024 is in fact 10-11.... NO ONE was "throwing around ages," perhaps read the comment--
there was no reference to age discrepancy... simply that people meaning parents... do a ton of "talking" on here more so than the 10-11year old players... that's all.....

Lets get real.If someone is throwing around ages, Most of those boys on Express A and all the GC and Manhasset boys are already 12.[/quote]


UM--- Hello.. do the math-- the ACCURATE age for a 2024 is in fact 10-11.... NO ONE was "throwing around ages," perhaps read the comment--
there was no reference to age discrepancy... simply that people meaning parents... do a ton of "talking" on here more so than the 10-11year old players... that's all.....[/quote]


Thank you for the clarification. Fact of the matter here, and it is everywhere, some kids are 12 on just about every team out there. Social reasons. Learning reasons. Who knows. I would guess 99% of 2024 'holdbacks" are NOT "holdbacks" for lacrosse reasons. And are generally not the best kids on the team. Move on, please. Once you get to the high school years, then complain about holdbacks for lacrosse reasons. Until USA Lacrosse goes strictly to age cutoffs, then its a circular argument. My son is a 2024, and has two older brothers in high school. Trust me, worry about it come high school.

UM--- Hello.. do the math-- the ACCURATE age for a 2024 is in fact 10-11.... NO ONE was "throwing around ages," perhaps read the comment--
there was no reference to age discrepancy... simply that people meaning parents... do a ton of "talking" on here more so than the 10-11year old players... that's all.....[/quote]


Thank you for the clarification. Fact of the matter here, and it is everywhere, some kids are 12 on just about every team out there. Social reasons. Learning reasons. Who knows. I would guess 99% of 2024 'holdbacks" are NOT "holdbacks" for lacrosse reasons. And are generally not the best kids on the team. Move on, please. Once you get to the high school years, then complain about holdbacks for lacrosse reasons. Until USA Lacrosse goes strictly to age cutoffs, then its a circular argument. My son is a 2024, and has two older brothers in high school. Trust me, worry about it come high school.[/quote]

By HS, the holdback argument is pretty much gone - most boys have hit puberty, and they have to play against varying aged kids in both JV and Varsity. Holdback arguments ONLY apply to pre-HS ages, so for 6th graders it is an appropriate discussion. The worst grades for where holdbacks have the most impact are 7th & 8th.

It doesnt matter if they aren't "holdbacks" for lacrosse reasons. They've had another year to mature, grow, play lacrosse, get stronger & bigger. If they are 12 in the 6th grade before the end is this year, they are labeled as a holdback. End of story!

More Express PHONEY holdbacks! They are loading the team with 7th grade kids with late birthdays saying it is gor WSYL reasons.

It is just cheating.

Wrong on the end of year. December is not a holdback in NY.

So a dec 05 vs a jan 06 is considered a holdback..Get a grip fella. if you are born Sept 1,2005 or later and mom/dad decided to have u start K the following year meaning 2011 they are still under USL rules....So im my opinion that is not a holdback. My son is not in this situation but it is what it is...

It is part of the game and they had it coming. The little 24 troll has been pitching to anyone who would listen.

If they are 12 now they are a hold back

I don't know about any of that.

Ok what if your son was born after Sept 1st date in 2005...But Mommy and Daddy did not feel the need to hold back....Would that be ok to play in the 2024 division. I mean they are the same age??

Having 3 teams is ridiculous. Shows your only there for the money. A c team with so many clubs on LI is just an awful team. And does nothing for anyone but the owner

No

Anthing before 12/1 is a holdback -- the only people keeping here kids from entering school is the parents --- hence holdback--

Some districts on Long Island are 12/15.

And that's why Igloo will continue to be average at best.

Agreed

That guy is ridiculous. Acts like he is the owner but is a nobody.

Any boy in 2005 who was born before august would be considered a hold back. Football it would be October . Truth is there are 2006 and 07 better then o5 so the theory does not hold .

If a kid is bigger stronger faster= 99% 05 baby. Their are slow weak and small 05s too. Juke harder to spot.

Bluefish, 24, Holdbacks..... Do you guys talk about anything that matters? Those 2 teams are non events...Next!!

As for Holdbacks until they go to an age based system it is a nonstarted so who cares to talk about it. It is a waste of energy.
Move on now, next topic....

Is it true that Igloo B basically let anyone on the team to fill spots. My neighbor told me his son didn't go to try outs and they asked him to play after just talking to the dad...Seems like they took all comers..
Moneyball at its finest.....Should be a fun experiment....

Sorry but he is not a good coach - that's why the bluefish let him go ask any parent that was on igloo last year about the coaches, there is a reason they are no longer coaching the A team

I know a kid who is on Igloo B who needs a lot of work. Let just say the kid can run, but cant catch throw or shoot.

Bluefish let him go? Ha. He ditched and they couldn't field a team. Barone still running the show at Igloo AA

Is your kid in 7th grade? 2024 is for 6th grade kids regardless of age (unfortunately). So its Not OK!

Thank you for sharing that. I will sleep better.