BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums MID-ATLANTIC LACROSSE MARYLAND FORUM Girls 2023 - 7th Grade Fall 2017/Summer 2018

It's the start of the Fall 2017/Summer 2018 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group

You're all over yourselves way too much. Igloo beats TG in this one. TG beats Igloo a few times. Thorne beat Heros, Skywalkers and MD united at tournament where TG didn't get past quater finals and at The Nationals TG and Igloo beat YJA by 1 goal. Yes... Igloo also one another handily. While it can be said that Igloo is tops or TG might be...YJ is right there too. 1 goal separated these 3 three teams. To talk about the last 2 or 3 years is absurd. YJ beating Igloo a couple years ago means nothing. Igloo is #1 in my view, then TG or YJ not too different. 1 freakin goal puts them on parity. The overboard bashing of YJ specifically is due to the natural instinc to take down the top. Agreed...at this grade YJ is NOT the top...but really...get over yourselves. Travel is not about fairness...that's tiwn. Yes girls were "chosen" to be on the team but that does not make them Elite players. Each team, Igloo, TG and YJ has about 3-4 girls that Inwould consider elite. The A+ player. Each team has another 8 "A/A-"'players and each has about 7 B+ players. If they did not get much playing time in VA it is because each team put their "Best" on the field. This tournament saw 1 goal differentials with the top players out there. Again..give it to Igloo...give it to TG...and after beating top teams from MD (that included TG)...you can give YJ their due too. The last few pages of threads is delusional babble.

There are absolutely no YJ girls on either team that is elite. The top girls on Thorn get absolutley no coaching. So they will fall to the wayside. Both teams have talented girls. Thorn is better no doubt but many of The wrights girls could hang with thorns team no problem. Program needs to be revamped. Need a new A coach.

Maryland Thread- We don't care to hear about your YJ drama.Go back to your own board to complain.

^^^^ I 2nd this ^^^^

I actually like YJ, TG and TE drama. It's much better than the Maryland bitching and wining about this club director and that club director and the "Pinata Swingers".
It's refreshing to hear that there are worse parents out there than what I have to put up with here in Maryland. I guess it's because we are blessed and lucky, where if we get pushed to a certain point and have had enough - we can go down the road to Skywalkers, MnD, TLC or Hero's. We don't have to sit there and keep taking it from a club director like the folks up on Long Island are very compliant to do. When I read the various forums - I am constantly thinking "Holy crap, let your feet do the talking folks, walk!" Instead, they let their fingers do the talking. And frankly, I find it quite entertaining.

Are any clubs moving up to A or down from A to B for the upcoming season? I know a few clubs at merging and girls may be looking for opportunities to play at their appropriate level

You don't know what's really going on.....do you? Just write your check, and go back to sleep.

Got an e-mail from the new east coast select club yesterday. They're looking to add girls to fill out teams and they have a special relationship with heros (e-mail was from 2020 heros coach). What's the deal with this club? As for other club moves, API combined with MD United, Redshirts almost folded, HoCo added a B team? Sorry if this is old news to some of you, a newbie here. thx

M&D 23 Black turned over about half the team. Mostly new redshirts came in. what a surprise.

not a surprise at all - no loyalty from CR, only focused on the Ws and the $. and if the Ws stop coming, then there is an effect down the road for M&D and that scares the sh&t out of him.

I am sorry your daughter was cut. Hopefully she has found a place to play. Change is not always a bad thing. That 2023 team had some issues. Fresh blood and attitude is just what it needs. Getting rid of attitudes like yours is bonus.

Do those girls go to red or leave the program?

No sure where they went but I do know lots of teams got better. Saw a lot of different lax bags at tryouts, especially in Baltimore/Howard County area. I think the new recruiting rules are causing the tide to shift a bit towards girls playing with friends and focusing on enjoying the experience versus winning at all costs. A good shift (one person's view). Although some parents will always push their kids into their decision. 7th grade girls (and their parents), should not be stressing about getting recruited and winning at all costs. Seen lots of girls burn out by Fresh/Soph year of high school which is a shame.

Fall practices start next week and I am already hearing the "lax takes priority". What about fall sports? Serious bait and switch if u want your daughter to get playing time.

Where/which club did you see that? I haven't seen that with my daughter's club (MD)

Blah Blah Blah!!!

So Redshirts folded another grade? No 2023 this year?

I was curious about that as well.

It seems to me that there is not a large crop of 2023 girls in lacrosse.

Correct

Just looking at a few rosters....
When is a roster too big? I counted a roster with 25 players! How worthwhile is it to be on team bench the entire game and not get any real-time playing time? When does it become a money grab?
My daughter was on a big team once and the coaches always just rotated players in and out. We had a parent leave because of this - "rotating players in and out on a schedule is for Rec" is what he said.

No reason to field a roster of more than 20 or 21 girls at this age group. When you get 25 girls it is really hard to get true game experience at the end of your roster. 7th grade girls should be developing individual skills and team concepts. 25 girls on a roster does not lend itself for that. True money grab but I blame parents for that...not the program. They are gladly paying thousands of dollars for club name.

hoco looked strong this wknd with wins over heros white and m&d red. though it's way early and they all look about the same level.

You do realize that Heros white and m&D red are B teams?

Let him enjoy it - that is a big win for hoco flamingos. Heros white and mnd might have to rethink those rosters.

You think Heros and M&D care about the B team rosters? They are happy to have 20 some families willing to pay the same amount of money for a lesser product.

More like 25 families paying the same amount...

IDK, I’d rather have my girl get lots of PT, improve/work on game on a quality b team vs getting spotty PT on the A team. It’s still just middle school.

Go where the coaching is, that’s where your daughter will grow as a player.

So true about coaching making the difference. Many of the "top brand names" essentially build their entire team around a few girls and others on the team do not effectively develop. Don't get me wrong, the best girls should play more, but you can still develop the bottom of the roster.

How did M&D 2023 Black do this past weekend against Legacy and YJ?

This years M&D team looks fantastic. Lots of tall athletic girls who went right down and scored from the draw. They went right to goal without having to set up an attack.. They will be good.

We also played Legacy - sloppy and almost lost to us but for a few lucky breaks. Nothing special.

We also played LIYJ. Is this the team everyone always talks about on here? I did not see anything special from this team or the Legacy team. Lots of good players but no standout studs/ athletes. JMO.

[quote=Anonymous]This years M&D team looks fantastic. Lots of tall athletic girls who went right down and scored from the draw. They went right to goal without having to set up an attack.. They will be good.

They will be good what? Good ball hogs? We see this all too often, then a team shuts down your " good tall athletic " girl and the game goes sideways. Promote ball movement - not selfish play.

Agreed. "Go to goal" girl gets old real fast. Learn to play as a team. That's how you become successful as a player and as a program. I'm surprised M&D allows that type of selfish play. You wouldn't see that at Hero's or other tops clubs

Ok -there were also moments when they did have to set an offense and were successful. Not advocating for them, just saying that they had a formidable attack and offense.

Thanks for you wisdom Heros Mom

The go to goal girls are anything but impressive. Iron sharpens iron.

M&D like most teams will allow selfish play if it results in a goal and a win. Let's be honest here, that is the goal. I don't have a problem if a girl is dominant and can drive through a double and get to the cage. it's when 3 girls are on her and she still does not pass to her open teammate. That should be coached out of her.

New and looking for an affordable program w/o ball hogs. Have 3 of them on town team that only pass to each other. Parents are ready to revolt, but that's for another day. What are options if kid didn't try out this year?

where are you located?

MnD weak link is the attack. They must be the young girls on the team not the 1 or 2 year hold backs. Can't wait to see them in the Summer

No one is biting LI dad. Go back to your forum and keep talking your 1-2 year holdback nonsense.

Just stating the obvious. You all won't be so impressive in the Summer !

North shore nassau, can also do western suffolk since not far off.

You're on the Maryland forum - try Northeast on the Main page.

Looks like the game of the Fall is tomorrow Heros vs M&D at Mid-Atlantic. I'm going to start with I don't have a dog in the fight so please don't start attacking my manhood. My daughter team has played against both and both are great teams! That being said I have to give the edge to Heros although I think talent wise M&D has the edge. With half a new roster just think it will take time for M&D to play as one unit.

Draws,Draws and Draws will determine the game. Heros has always owned M&D at draws. let's see if half a new roster will help that!

I have a serious question. Do most of the girls in Maryland play lacrosse all year round or do they also play Club in other sports as well like soccer or field hockey ?

Can't we leave the instate bickering up to the New Yorkers. These girls are literally friends plus it's so much more fun arguing with the yanks...

Yes MD girls play soccer, field hockey as well as basketball. I know MD teams don't use that as a excuse as other states do but your generally not seeing full rosters in the fall.

It’s Fall. There are several big soccer and Field Hockey tournaments this weekend so a lot of teams will be missing players, wouldn’t put much into who wins these games

Makes sense. I appreciate the feedback. Field hockey is big by us . It's just a little hard to watch after watching a fast paced lacrosse game .

Makes sense . Field hockey is big by us as well. Unfortunately after watching summer and fall lacrosse, girls hockey is like watching paint dry. Thanks for the reply.

Any scores from Terrapin Fall Classic? I know they do no post scores but curious how the teams played.

Our team did well although there was definitely a mismatch between teams. We got lots of easy parking, a great facility (Blandaire Park ❤️), genuine enthusiam from the Md players, and a free T-shirt to boot. I hope we do this next year- much less stress and a good way to put the FallBall to bed. A great refresher versus the MidAtlantic Tournament which is twice as expensive, with skeleton teams bc of other fall sports and no freebies.
I’d like to see some scores too!

I wonder if anyone will be able to step up and beat the M&D 23 Black team this spring? Scores otu and they have already won there first 2 games.

so has Stars 23 Blue

[quote=Anonymous]I wonder if anyone will be able to step up and beat the M&D 23 Black team this spring? Scores otu and they have already won there first 2 games.

Hopefully M&D makes the playoffs in Lax for the Cure unlike last summer so YJ can knock them out like they did to all the other Maryland teams they faced.

I wonder if clouds ever look down on us and say "Hey look...that one is shaped like an stunad"

I wouldn’t call CCLax much competition for them and I’m not sure what’s going down with MDUnited after taking it all last year.
Wait until after they have played Heros and Skywalkers and Elite.

As for Stars, they havnt had any blowouts against great competition and they barely squeaked a win in against TLC.

Calm down it’s 7th grade lacrosse

Check yourself. YJ lost to Heros in the 22 division. Heros hurrah. You aint never winning the 22 division.

Check yourself. YJ lost to Heros in the 22 division. Heros hurrah. You aint never winning the 22 division.

Wrong thread this is 2023

I think Hero's will be good comp. Sky walkers young teams tend not to win much. Elite is a surprise they really don't have any good teams but there 23 team. I am surprised they are still around.

Elite is barely holding on and nowhere near the team they once were. Often guesting top players from other teams in last years summer tournaments.

There’s only one team that’s any competition for M&D23 and they wear green... should be a battle every time they place this year!

M&D beat up on the YJ's in October it didn’t even look like they were playing the same sport. M&D BLACK has NEVER lost any team out of NY!

Stars are playing pretty good lax right now and beating Nems is not as easy as people like to say. Stars is also in the much weaker side of the poool and could end up being a one loss team heading into playoffs

TG Black

Yeah hero's green and M& D should be a great battle for sure. It's 7 th grade lacrosse so a lot will change down the road. The top programs like M & D, Sky Walkers, Hero's always get stronger as they get older. The best players from some of the other programs will filter in to the top programs. Seems that is what always happens.

He said like all the other Maryland teams they faced.

I saw some new players at M&D 2023 black, fast but not much skill. I only saw the end but looks like the bottom end of the team is weak when subbing in.

Of course, that's when our age difference really starts to benefit our girls. Our 13 & 14 year olds are much more mature than the 11 & 12 year old girls that come down from LI. Our "system" down here really kicks in around those ages.

Get over yourself LI dad. Go pretend your a MD dad elsewhere.

M&D will be the team this year in 2023. New coach cleaned house. They will be hard to beat.

Stop pretending that your from from MD no ones buying it troll. Make up excuses somewhere else there a Main Forum you can cry on Yorker

Stop pretending that your from from MD no ones buying it troll. Make up excuses somewhere else there a Main Forum you can cry on Yorker

Exactly and that's why Maryland teams don't go to the Nationals too many girls don't fit the age criteria.

Who is Naptown. Only one team in B bracket. Another splinter club looking for $$$ ?

Naptown used to be Bay Area. They have more than one team.

Thanks-Parent told me one of the coaches at Bay Area hijacked 2 teams -running it for the $$$. Bay Area is rebuilding -new President and some good coaches now.

Hi
What do you think the biggest issue is for the girls this year playing as 7th graders?
What will tryouts be like this August? Don’t the teams go to all-invitational teams after this?

Picking the right club is most important. Is your daughter developing or do the coaches just showcase the top 3-5 girls. Most clubs don't go to invite only until HS. My advice -make sure the club respects multisport athletes-less injuries and the college coaches like that. Top tier clubs will cut girls no problem if the next best thing comes along.

Most of the board and coaches have left due to some sketchy financial practices of owner. His landscaping company was in news for its multiple lawsuits.

I feel sorry for the girls and the parents who got duped.

During a summer football team meeting the coach says they want players to play more than one sport then hands out the 6 day a week summer practice schedule. My son decided to just play lacrosse. My daughter has the same issue with volleyball. Coaches urge players to play multiple sports but then make you commit to a near impossible schedule.

Having been there let your child decide what she wants to do while focusing on academics and having fun being a child.

Any talk of D1 this and that at 7th grade is pure nonsense. Physically these girls are just starting to change. Like our neighbor by 11th grade she found a better fit with softball than as a midfielder.

Your HS practices football 6 days a week during the summer before the season even starts?

Your team doesn't?

All clubs do that ! not just the top ones...every team knows who is getting cut and what players they need or are coming to them before tryouts...

As a sports medicine physician overuse injuries and burnout are real. over 50% of these girls who start club at 3rd and 4th grade are done by high school. It's a fact. Let them have fun. Get serious in middle school and it will work its way out. Multiple sports and downtime for rest recovery and healing and fun. And academics and community service.

Pretty sure fall lax does not start till September-still doing tryouts.

Agree 100%-we just joined a team with that same philosophy. The president of the club is a sports doctor as well.

Hey Doc,....please provide the facts for your statement. Since you posted anonymous I'm skeptical about your sports medicine MD credentials along with the facts you stated.