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Having that many evaluators from the same club couldn't possibly have anything to do with it (ya, right). Total joke. The sad thing is that it undermines the credibility of the event.

As long as club lacrosse is grade based not aged based teams will have holdbacks. Should PT turn away the big Brunswick 2021's???
PT didn't make the rules, just following them like everyone else.

Hey, if LI had them they'd be taking them too!

"Don't know what kids are related to the coaches other than their son." Did you seriously just write that? Unreal.

Maybe he thought related to coaches meant 3rd cousin twice removed? Not sure about current holdbacks on that team but the rumor mill says that a number of current 2021s will be 2022s next year.

Maybe it was sarcasm. You people are dense.

While I hate the argument "if they aren't breaking a rule, you can't blame them" because it ignores the reality of social codes and ethics in order to game the system, I also will admit that PT is helping to train and develop some of the best talent. Making it to the finals of WSYL (which is age controlled!) is incredibly impressive and deserves praise.

Give Daniello lots of credit. He built prime time from scratch. Sure he has plenty of enemies. That is the nature of travel lax. When you look around at express or 91. These were and are satellite teams built by someone else. Not saying one is better than the other, But give credit where credit is due. Pt teams play against the best and seem to be fairly competitive against most teams.

Express 2021AA is very good. Not great but they can compete. Express 2021A is an embarrassment. I saw kids out there that couldn't catch and throw. That guy who runs North is a blowhard and should have limited himself to only one team per grade considering the lack of talent. But of course he couldn't resist the $$.

Question: My son starts for CT Chargers 2023 Blue team. We played at PrimeTime tourney this weekend. How do we lose to Prime time 12-1 then only 7-6 same weekend? Also at what point do I let him switch clubs as he is somewhat bothered that chargers practices arent mandatory and tournaments are ala cart? He plays for SuperStar box in fall but has only played lax for 1 year so far. Any advise would be appreciated.

2017 summer club season basically done. A lot of good posts here on how the team in age groups rank. Clubs seem to be realistic in what they are and where they are going. Do like how the club at least are doing their own tourneys now to draw games to the area and playing each other more.

PT, Eclipse, Express North on top level with PT clear #1.
Preds, 2Way are second shelf with good organizations but not trying to compete with top level.
Topside, Superstar, Chargers hard to peg but flounder around
Most 80+11 nothing special but trying
Ballers, Westchester Warriors, HOS, so bad kids must love lacrosse and parents hate money.

In any given age group, an outlying club team may be stronger or weaker. Like 80+11 Tristate has some teams that do OK and others that are awful.

I don't think its a coincidence that by and large the better teams in your rankings get a fair number of CT kids (or depending on the club, a ton of CT kids). These CT kids are on the average a bit older, and over the course of a big roster, it makes a difference in competitiveness. If clubs were forced to play by birth year, the differences amongst these clubs would shrink. PT would still be much better than HOS, for instance, but amongst everyone else, teams would bunch up a bit more.

With SuperStar closing field teams and sticking to box how does that change things for 2018? Any chance PT starts having 2nd teams at age levels? Anyone heard anything on Express CT? We live near Danbury but havent heard great things about the program.

I'm not sure I agree that PT is a "clear #1". Yes, they have a strong U13 team, and even their 2021 can compete with Eclipse 2021 (which is that club's strongest team), but beyond that, each grade varies among clubs in terms of strongest. I would argue that Eclipse 2021 is actually stronger and that Express North superior for 2019 and 2020.

PT 2021 played Eclipse 2021 last month and PT won 8-4. One game does not a trend make, and they unfortunately don't play each other very often at all, but in that game PT was clearly superior.

Why don't you let him tryout for prime time and express north this august and see where he stacks up? In my opinion, It's only going to get harder and harder to make the best teams going forward. Keep in mind, superstars kids will be looking for spots as well.

Warriors is 1 year old. Give them time, Great coaches. Had tryouts really late last year. Tristate 81 will never attract the best kids until they start going to better tourneys. It's like they are the step kids of that larger organization.

Eclipse must be nervous. . . . Tryouts staring next week already? Some teams not even done with summer tournaments - ridiculous!
Clearly an attempt to lock in players early before losing them to other clubs. . . .

I would take it slow all of the boys on PT 2023 have been playing lax for 5 to 6 years. You do not want your boy to get discouraged or upset if he does not make the team. My advice is to try to a decent team with a strong emphasis on coaching. PT is to competitive for a boy just starting out. Good luck with your boy.

With brine national classic next week, How do you even have tryouts for 2024 and older

From a practical standpoint, Chargers tends to hold their tryouts later than most (they have not posted tryout dates yet for next summer, but I would guess mid to late September) so you can have your son tryout for other club options and see how the chips fall.

Are you at all concerned that your director from chargers definitely knows who you are now? You pretty much gave everything but his name, my advice is you start trying out just in case

The reason the second game was closer was that the coaches played the b players longer than they should have. The Chargers could be better but brameier doesn't focus on the younger kids. Eclipse is more competitive but give chargers another year, if you live near Darien then it's fine.

Has anyone seen if SuperStar tryouts are posted?

I'm going to assume your joking, but if not, superstars is shutting down their field teams and just doing box. Colsey is going to Prime time as director of Box, and coaching the 2024 team

Rumor has it that Roy is joining PT but keeping box lax??
You knew that already though.....right

According to their website, all tryouts are Tursday, July 25th. Don't know anything about this club but sounds interesting as a supplement to our regular club in terms of development - can anyone share their experience with it?

Heard that Superstars is going with box only and that Colsey is going to Primetime.

They are a total joke. Who cares.

Colsey is going to PT as director of box and keeping SuperStar box as well. Closing field teams. His box teams are competitive and the program seems to be growing now he has PT kids for box so they should be good.

Superstars box is a home run in if your looking for competitive off season lax. You play against most of the best field teams at every tourney which are mostly 1 day events. It's a fast moving, physical game. The con of the program is the very small practice facility, but it does not seem to matter come game time as you have 30 seconds to get a shot off. Roy sends most of his teams to San Jose in August for the nationals which is a great event. He also sends kids out to Vancouver to play an amazing tourney with the us box national team. Those are the pros and cons.

You are kidding right? Warriors gets all the leftovers after PT, LIE, preds, then 91N picks up some that drop them warriors get the kids who can't throw and catch. If that's your kids level of play, perfect.

Why bash on the warriors? Savastano's are great people and coaches

Superstars box tryouts are 7/25. Field teams are done. This is real box lacrosse not just indoor lacrosse. Improves stick skills dramatically in a short time.

Field teams are terrible

Terrible compared to who? In the tri state area they are competitive. Certainly better than tristate, 2 way , 3D , ballers.

thats a low bar

Correct , the bar is low, But other than pt, express and eclipse , who is better than them? Maybe predators at certain ages

Can anyone give me some color on Prime Time, specifically the 2020 team? We are new to the area and have heard mixed - lots of great things about the skill set of that particular team, but also lots of rumbling that many of the players are not happy for some reason (specifically the Greenwich/Brunswick crowd) and are looking to leave the program next year.
Heard this happened at 3D a few years ago when several players joined and team was solid but then a large group left to join PT together, so 3D was left very weak.
Is this true? Why all the program hopping for this group? Frustrating when the team potential looks one way at tryouts but then you find out that many of the skilled players declined to go to another program.

Field teams no longer exist at Superstars. Box is a great way to develop a young player. There's a reason every college coach looks for box players.

This weekend at the Philly Summer Invitational, the 2020 Primetime team played the Preds for the first time in a number of years. Preds won 9-2, shutting Primetime out deep into the 4th quarter of the pool play game. In bracket play Preds beat Clams and lost a decently contested game with Looneys 8-4 in the semis. This year's 2020 Preds were undefeated in pool play thru 4 tourney's, losing only 4 games all season. Only lost 3 games last season. So if you are a grumbling 2020 Primetimer tired of being on the wrong end of NLF beatdowns or simply looking for the best 2020 team in Westchester/CT, you might consider the Preds tryouts.