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I agree with the schedule issues, but they've been ranked #4 in both polls for the past month or so - didn't expect them to be dropped 4 spots.

No love for Denver or did I miss them?

The word coming from the NCAA was that SB was a 7 seed and because of not being able to play in state of NC they had to be placed in different side of bracket How in the world did Louisville get in with an extremely high RPI

No one likes JS except JS. Any opportunity to push him back in his place will be taken by the powers that be. You have to know SB got put there so they'd never make it out of the quarters.

Dont go by the polls. Not a factor.

SBU will eating turtle soup on the 20th.

"Generalized things? You have reduced an entire college to poetry readings and "raging against the man" and alternative lifestyles! I could care less about Amherst but your generalization that "most kids who go to Amherst could not survive socially at these schools" is ridiculous. I'm sorry you and your sister did not have a good experience there because obviously something occurred for you to make your "generalized" statements. You characterized the school as misfits, autistic and socially unfit. I never said any bad things about any school--Michigan, Penn St or otherwise. That was your implication. I simply said you have to pick the school that is the best fit and if your child could get into Amherst or any number of good schools go for it."

"A parent with a student/athlete that could get into Amherst (or any NESCAC school, outside of Trinity) would be stupid not to."

Sounds pretty generalized and definitely sounds like a knock of parents who have kids that go to Michigan, Penn State and every other school out there especially Trinity. It also comes across as pompous.

Agree, NC has a much easier path to finals than MD. Still believe Md will fake it all. SB got completely screwed. Penn State got a gift, maybe the biggest of all.

Denver had a low RPI, no quality wins and a bad loss to Georgetown down the regular season stretch. Only decent win was vs Louisville who was ranked below Denver when game was played.

A full investigation should be requested , seeds 4 thru 8 are not justifiable . Also Louisville #31 rpi gets in is a joke.

It will be interesting to see what happens next year if they are in a similar position with the Final 4 back in Stony Brook.

Louisville had low RPI but they had two quality wins, one (vs #7 Syracuse) came on last regular season game and had no significant losses.

Of teams with better RPI:

Hopkins had better RPI but didn't have a significant win.
Loyola had no significant wins and lost to Navy.
Duke was disqualified because of their record.
Denver had a relatively low RPI and lost to unranked Georgetown in the regular season and no significant wins.
Temple had no significant wins and one bad loss.
Delaware had one significant win and two bad losses.
Lehigh had no significant wins and one bad loss.

Top 20, VA Tech lost their last 6 and had a lower RPI.


Great to play a challenging schedule but you have to win at least one of them along the way. (Albany, Elon, Towson, NW). Towson was fortunate to have wins vs ND and Hopkins. Their losses to Hofstra and Elon the last few weeks could have hurt them without those.

Another year where strength of schedule is being rewarded and lack there of is being punished by seeding, bracket or being left out all together (see Stony Brook, Denver & Northwestern)

Ahem, can you say scholarship? Both didn't pay as they prepared for college, and there are a lot more minority kids that will be coming to the front in the men's and women's games. The broader the demographic, the better for the game. Maybe not better for Muffy and Chad and their offspring, but its better for Lacrosse.

Where are you seeing this word, and why are they unable to play in NC ?

Interesting as that was the only other seed I saw as possible for Stony Brook. Can't play in NC?

Bathroom Bill was rescinded, wasn't it?

Where are the quarterfinals being played this year?

For the same reason the Final 4 was taken out of NC Albany and SB unable to play in North carolina

Denver women are not on the same league as the Denver men who don't shy away from anyone

Home fields of top 4 seeds - MD, UNC, FL and PSU.

So only NY schools? The NCAA has accepted the new law and allows play back in the state.

Why are Albany & SB not allowed to play in NC?

So what if they didn't pay? They're both great players and deserved their scholarships. Neither player was the beneficiary of any inner-city outreach program as you suggest, though -- they grew up in suburban lacrosse hotbeds.

Your weird, fetishized desire to change the game's demographics likely won't ever actually happen. These "grow the game" charities exist less to serve their target audiences and more to give post-college kids in Manhattan something to do (and to bolster their resumes when it comes time to apply to business school).

And all that talk about "Muffy and Chad"... Is there a reason why you seem to hate white kids so much? Is it just "rich" white kids?

Because we live in a stupid liberal State where we would force our daughters to share a public bathroom with a bearded 300 pound man in a dress who says he "identifies as a woman"....... instead of making the above mentioned bearded main a dress use the mens room. Unless your name is Cuomo then you get a bodyguard while in your privet restroom

I am socially liberal but when only 0.3 to 0.6% of people are transgender in the USA it does seem that we have finally gone too far. I like what the politicians said in Texas to the NFL, you make us adhere to this over reaching rule in order to host a super bowl and WE the STATE will mandate that any of your NFL players that don't stand for the National Anthem can't play in our stadiums or state.

My question is would the NY teams forfeit if their bracket took them to NC?

great points all. have some backbone like Carolina did. kids have rights too- even though they dont vote, which is why polititcians naturally side with transgenders.

who cares about the NY teams anyway. a bygone state in lacrosse too.

Is that why like half of the girls on the watch list are from NY, because we're irrelevant?

"They" are on the way.... Seriously??? You are disgusting! I truly hope you did not reproduce and further hope that you do not have the ability to spread your bigoted opinions to anyone young or old. Thank goodness, for your sake, BOTC allows you to post anonymously so you don't have to worry about publicly embarrassing your family and your friends! [/quote]

Seriously, yes, there are athletic and often minority kids in cities everywhere picking up sticks (due to great Grow the Game programs) who are now starting to have an impact on the landscape of the game. Hmmmm, take Miles Jones or Trevor Baptiste for just the tip of the iceberg of very athletic kids on the mens side who are creating diversity and taking up spots that plain Joe/Jane from suburbia (who are well trained from the $$$$ you have been shelling out for privates) would have taken in the past. It is not bigotry at all, its a fact.
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Baptiste went to a $40k/year high school and grew up in a pretty nice part of New Jersey. Miles Jones grew up in Huntington (granted, not the best part, but about as close as you can get to being "plain Joe/Jane from suburbia"). He also was lucky enough to do a PG year at a $40k/year prep school.

I guess you just assumed they were both "minority kids in cities" because they were black? Give me a break.
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Ahem, can you say scholarship? Both didn't pay as they prepared for college, and there are a lot more minority kids that will be coming to the front in the men's and women's games. The broader the demographic, the better for the game. Maybe not better for Muffy and Chad and their offspring, but its better for Lacrosse.
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So what if they didn't pay? They're both great players and deserved their scholarships. Neither player was the beneficiary of any inner-city outreach program as you suggest, though -- they grew up in suburban lacrosse hotbeds.

Your weird, fetishized desire to change the game's demographics likely won't ever actually happen. These "grow the game" charities exist less to serve their target audiences and more to give post-college kids in Manhattan something to do (and to bolster their resumes when it comes time to apply to business school).

And all that talk about "Muffy and Chad"... Is there a reason why you seem to hate white kids so much? Is it just "rich" white kids? [/quote]


Don't hate anyone, I'm just a realist and the geography and demographic are changing. Get used to it.

April 15th Cuse v NC in chapel hill , how was that permitted?

Private University (SU).

Syracuse is a private school. SB and Albany are SUNY's.

Syracuse is a private institution and isn't bound by Governor 's edicts.

Cuomo's ban on non-essential state travel to NC contained a specific exception for Syracuse since they are in the ACC

Private college, they can do what they want. Albany and Stony brook are state schools controlled by state government. Topic is a complete joke

SB and Albany state schools?

Tewaaraton Award Presented By Under Armour Announces Five Men's & Women's 2017 Finalists

The Tewaaraton Foundation has announced the men’s and women’s finalists for the 2017 Tewaaraton Award, presented by Under Armour. Five men and five women were selected as finalists and will be invited to Washington, D.C., for the 17th annual Tewaaraton Award.

Ceremony on June 1.

The five men’s finalists are:

Trevor Baptiste, Denver - Jr., Faceoff
Connor Fields, Albany - Jr., Attack
Matt Rambo, Maryland - Sr., Attack
Ben Reeves, Yale - Jr., Attack
Patrick Spencer, Loyola - Soph., Attack

The five women’s finalists are:

Nadine Hadnagy, Maryland - Sr., Defense
Olivia Hompe, Princeton - Sr., Attack
Marie McCool, North Carolina - Jr., Midfield
Kylie Ohlmiller, Stony Brook - Jr., Attack
Zoe Stukenberg, Maryland - Sr., Midfield

Ben Reeves (Yale) is the only returning finalist from 2016, while Kylie Ohlmiller becomes Stony Brook’s first Tewaaraton finalist and Trevor Baptiste (Denver) is the first faceoff specialist to be a finalist for the award. All 10 finalists will compete in this month’s NCAA Tournament, at the conclusion of which the selection committees will vote on and select the 2017 winners.

Marie McCool gets it, Fields on Men's side

How is Mollie Stevens from Florida not a finalist?

because no one cares about Florida. except the on or two poster on this sight. or is it just one? you?