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Huntington guy and Syosset guy; You are both right. I put very little credence into the national polls--paper shooting at best. And just like in the NCAA's this year, just about any of those teams in the top 25 could beat any one of the other teams on any given day. Only facts to deal with are CSH beat both Syosset and Huntington AGAIN this year. So save your sour grapes to feed to big foot when you find him. No one from CSH is on here pounding their chests about being the best or superior to anyone else. Any given day, but so far each day has been their day--hopefully--keeps happening.

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Nothing but crickets on the GC vs. St. I game last night?
No Box score in the paper.

ST.I came out east and played a good game against a tough Landon then came north and stymied a good GC team.

GC is pretty adept at controlling the information flow- only good news (positive puff pieces) are permitted.
Info on losses are squashed


I definitely think you're a conspiracy theorist. It was a night game. Information is called in. When Newsday publishes it isn't GC controlling it. It was a 7-4 game.


It would be unsanitary to have anything written about this GC game. "They" will have none of it. However, If they won - have a parade!


Now, if St. I wins today, we all know the feathers will fly with all the derogatory comments.

By the way, it was a 6:00 game so, it was not late. Also, the box score still is not up on newsday or news 12.

Lastly, the game is not even listed on the schedule of GC.

Totally whitewashed.

Next headline will be: "The Trojans are 7-0 in all the the games they won"

You are a real whack job obsessed about GC. Try telling everyone on here how YOUR kid's team did, instead about GC. What a loser.


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RECRUITING RUNDOWN’S HIGH SCHOOL TOP 25 – WEEK 5, APRIL 19TH


After Top 25 wins over Bullis and St. Ignatius Prep, Landon (Md.) takes over the No. 1 spot from Hill Academy (Ont.), pushing its record to 12-0 just over halfway through the Bears’ season. Elsewhere, little change occurred within the Top 10, besides Victor (N.Y.) sliding in with a week of solid tests against Midwest prep notables coming up.


1. Landon (Md.), 12-0 | Previously: No. 3
Last Week: beat Bullis (Md.) 10-8, DeMatha (Md.) 13-8, St. Ignatius (Calif.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.), 4/21 vs. St. Albans (D.C.), 4/24 vs. Robinson (Va.)

2. Hill Academy (Ont.), 11-0 | Previously: No. 1
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/22 vs. Shaker Heights (Oh.), 4/23 vs. Culver (Ind.)

3. Darien (Conn.), 6-0 | Previously: No. 2
Last Week: Beat Manhasset (N.Y.) 12-8, Fairfield-Warde (Conn.) 18-4
This Week: 4/22 at Wilton (Conn.), 4/25 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.)

4. Culver (Ind.), 10-1 | Previously: No. 4
Last Week: beat Everest Academy (Ont.) 12-11, Kiski Prep (Pa.) 14-3
This Week: 4/22 vs. Detroit Catholic Central (Mich.), 4/23 vs. Hill Academy (Ont.)

5. McDonogh (Md.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 5
Last Week: beat Mt. St. Joseph (Md.) 19-6
This Week: 4/21 at Calvert Hall (Md.), 4/25 at Severn (Md.)

6. Chaminade (N.Y.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 6
Last Week: beat Fairfield Prep (Conn.) 17-7
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 4/22 at Yorktown (N.Y.), 4/25 vs. Kellenberg Memorial (N.Y.)

7. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.), 8-0 | Previously: No. 7
Last Week: beat John Jay (N.Y.) 9-7, Huntington (N.Y.) 16-12
This Week: 4/19 vs. Floral Park (N.Y.), 4/22 at North Shore (N.Y.)

8. Avon Old Farms (Conn.), 7-0 | Previously: No. 8
Last Week: beat Berkshire (Mass.) 18-6, Tabor Academy (Mass.) 21-3
This Week: 4/22 at Choate (Conn.), 4/26 at Westminster (Conn.)

9. Brunswick (Conn.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 9
Last Week: beat Taft (Conn.) 14-9, New Canaan (Conn.) 7-5
This Week: 4/19 vs. Lawrenceville (N.J.), 4/22 at Hotchkiss (Conn.)

10. Victor (N.Y.), 5-0 | Previously: No. 11
Last Week: beat Brighton (N.Y.) 15-9
This Week: 4/20 vs. Loyola Academy (Ill.), 4/23 vs. Brother Rice (Mich.)

11. Deerfield (Mass.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 12
Last Week: beat Navy Prep (R.I.) 14-8, Choate (Conn.) 17-4
This Week: 4/19 at Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.), 4/22 at Taft (Conn.)

12. La Salle (Pa.), 7-1 | Previously: No. 13
Last Week: beat Radnor (Pa.) 13-3, Father Judge (Pa.) 19-1
This Week: 4/19 at Conwell Egan (Pa.), 4/20 at Lansdale Catholic (Pa.), 4/25 at St. Joseph’s Prep (Pa.)

13. Delbarton (N.J.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 16
Last Week: lost to Seton Hall Prep (N.J.) 8-7, beat St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 19-10
This Week: 4/19 vs. Sparta (N.J.), 4/22 vs. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Bullis (Md.), 13-2 | Previously: No. 15
Last Week: lost to Landon (Md.) 10-8, beat West Chester East (Pa.) 15-5, Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.) 10-4
This Week: 4/21 vs. Georgetown Prep (Md.), 4/26 vs. St. John Paul The Great (Va.)

15. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), 5-2 | Previously: No. 19
Last Week: beat Boys’ Latin (Md.) 12-9, lost to Delbarton (N.J.) 19-10
This Week: 4/20 at Iona Prep (N.Y.), 4/22 vs. Niskayuna (N.Y.)

16. Boys’ Latin (Md.), 7-3 | Previously: No. 14
Last Week: lost to St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 12-9, beat Severn (Md.) 16-11
This Week: 4/21 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.), 4/25 at St. Mary’s (Md.)

17. St. Paul’s (Md.), 10-1 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-4
This Week: 4/21 at St. Mary’s (Md.), 4/25 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.)

18. IMG Academy (Fla.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 17
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/21 vs. McCallie (Tenn.), 4/22 at Centennial (Ga.), 4/25 at Lassiter (Ga.)

19. Salisbury (Conn.), 4-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.) 11-6, Haverford (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/19 at Westminster (Conn.), 4/22 at Loomis Chaffee (Conn.)

20. Haverford (Pa.), 6-4 | Previously: No. 10
Last Week: beat Episcopal Academy (Pa.) 14-11, lost to Salisbury (Conn.) 9-7, lost to Penn Charter (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/20 at Germantown Academy (Pa.), 4/25 vs. Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.)

21. Malvern Prep (Pa.), 9-2 | Previously: No. 20
Last Week: beat Germantown Academy (Pa.) 17-8, Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.) 11-6
This Week: 4/21 vs. Penn Charter (Pa.), 4/22 at Delbarton (N.J.), 4/25 at Episcopal Academy (Pa.)

22. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 11-2 | Previously:
Last Week: beat St. Joe’s Prep (Pa.) 10-6, Serra-San Mateo (Calif.) 18-1, lost to Landon (Md.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Garden City (N.Y.), 4/20 at Chaminade (N.Y.)

23. Calvert Hall (Md.), 7-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Gilman (Md.) 12-7
This Week: 4/21 vs. McDonogh (Md.), 4/25 at Spalding (Md.)

24. New Canaan (Conn.), 3-3 | Previously: No. 21
Last Week: lost to Brien McMahon (Conn.) 14-3, lost to Brunswick (Conn.) 7-5, beat Norwalk (Conn.)
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.), 4/22 at Fairfield Prep (Conn.), 4/25 at Staples (Conn.)

25. Manhasset (N.Y.), 4-2 | Previously: No. 24
Last Week: lost to Darien (Conn.) 12-8, beat Long Beach (N.Y.) 15-4
This Week: 4/22 vs. Wantagh (N.Y.)


CHS @ #7 is a complete joke given that very weak schedule. Loaded with powerhouse programs for sure.



Says the guy when CSH has been top-ranked EVERY year in I don't know how long. Quick - tell this everyone else in the lacrosse world they are all wrong and THIS guy really knows what's going on. Hereafter, all HS ranking will come directly from THIS guy! Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt!


"Top ranked" secondary to a perpetually weak schedule and having certain "media types" having boy crushes on a few of the players. They don't and will not play anyone else on that list above. Isn't that interesting? While several on that list will play several others. So who belongs: the boy crush team or the legit top ranked teams who actually play each other?

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RECRUITING RUNDOWN’S HIGH SCHOOL TOP 25 – WEEK 5, APRIL 19TH


After Top 25 wins over Bullis and St. Ignatius Prep, Landon (Md.) takes over the No. 1 spot from Hill Academy (Ont.), pushing its record to 12-0 just over halfway through the Bears’ season. Elsewhere, little change occurred within the Top 10, besides Victor (N.Y.) sliding in with a week of solid tests against Midwest prep notables coming up.


1. Landon (Md.), 12-0 | Previously: No. 3
Last Week: beat Bullis (Md.) 10-8, DeMatha (Md.) 13-8, St. Ignatius (Calif.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.), 4/21 vs. St. Albans (D.C.), 4/24 vs. Robinson (Va.)

2. Hill Academy (Ont.), 11-0 | Previously: No. 1
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/22 vs. Shaker Heights (Oh.), 4/23 vs. Culver (Ind.)

3. Darien (Conn.), 6-0 | Previously: No. 2
Last Week: Beat Manhasset (N.Y.) 12-8, Fairfield-Warde (Conn.) 18-4
This Week: 4/22 at Wilton (Conn.), 4/25 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.)

4. Culver (Ind.), 10-1 | Previously: No. 4
Last Week: beat Everest Academy (Ont.) 12-11, Kiski Prep (Pa.) 14-3
This Week: 4/22 vs. Detroit Catholic Central (Mich.), 4/23 vs. Hill Academy (Ont.)

5. McDonogh (Md.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 5
Last Week: beat Mt. St. Joseph (Md.) 19-6
This Week: 4/21 at Calvert Hall (Md.), 4/25 at Severn (Md.)

6. Chaminade (N.Y.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 6
Last Week: beat Fairfield Prep (Conn.) 17-7
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 4/22 at Yorktown (N.Y.), 4/25 vs. Kellenberg Memorial (N.Y.)

7. Cold Spring Harbor (N.Y.), 8-0 | Previously: No. 7
Last Week: beat John Jay (N.Y.) 9-7, Huntington (N.Y.) 16-12
This Week: 4/19 vs. Floral Park (N.Y.), 4/22 at North Shore (N.Y.)

8. Avon Old Farms (Conn.), 7-0 | Previously: No. 8
Last Week: beat Berkshire (Mass.) 18-6, Tabor Academy (Mass.) 21-3
This Week: 4/22 at Choate (Conn.), 4/26 at Westminster (Conn.)

9. Brunswick (Conn.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 9
Last Week: beat Taft (Conn.) 14-9, New Canaan (Conn.) 7-5
This Week: 4/19 vs. Lawrenceville (N.J.), 4/22 at Hotchkiss (Conn.)

10. Victor (N.Y.), 5-0 | Previously: No. 11
Last Week: beat Brighton (N.Y.) 15-9
This Week: 4/20 vs. Loyola Academy (Ill.), 4/23 vs. Brother Rice (Mich.)

11. Deerfield (Mass.), 4-1 | Previously: No. 12
Last Week: beat Navy Prep (R.I.) 14-8, Choate (Conn.) 17-4
This Week: 4/19 at Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.), 4/22 at Taft (Conn.)

12. La Salle (Pa.), 7-1 | Previously: No. 13
Last Week: beat Radnor (Pa.) 13-3, Father Judge (Pa.) 19-1
This Week: 4/19 at Conwell Egan (Pa.), 4/20 at Lansdale Catholic (Pa.), 4/25 at St. Joseph’s Prep (Pa.)

13. Delbarton (N.J.), 5-1 | Previously: No. 16
Last Week: lost to Seton Hall Prep (N.J.) 8-7, beat St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 19-10
This Week: 4/19 vs. Sparta (N.J.), 4/22 vs. Malvern Prep (Pa.)

14. Bullis (Md.), 13-2 | Previously: No. 15
Last Week: lost to Landon (Md.) 10-8, beat West Chester East (Pa.) 15-5, Cardinal Gibbons (N.C.) 10-4
This Week: 4/21 vs. Georgetown Prep (Md.), 4/26 vs. St. John Paul The Great (Va.)

15. St. Anthony’s (N.Y.), 5-2 | Previously: No. 19
Last Week: beat Boys’ Latin (Md.) 12-9, lost to Delbarton (N.J.) 19-10
This Week: 4/20 at Iona Prep (N.Y.), 4/22 vs. Niskayuna (N.Y.)

16. Boys’ Latin (Md.), 7-3 | Previously: No. 14
Last Week: lost to St. Anthony’s (N.Y.) 12-9, beat Severn (Md.) 16-11
This Week: 4/21 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.), 4/25 at St. Mary’s (Md.)

17. St. Paul’s (Md.), 10-1 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-4
This Week: 4/21 at St. Mary’s (Md.), 4/25 at Mt. St. Joe (Md.)

18. IMG Academy (Fla.), 9-1 | Previously: No. 17
Last Week: Idle
This Week: 4/21 vs. McCallie (Tenn.), 4/22 at Centennial (Ga.), 4/25 at Lassiter (Ga.)

19. Salisbury (Conn.), 4-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Trinity-Pawling (N.Y.) 11-6, Haverford (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/19 at Westminster (Conn.), 4/22 at Loomis Chaffee (Conn.)

20. Haverford (Pa.), 6-4 | Previously: No. 10
Last Week: beat Episcopal Academy (Pa.) 14-11, lost to Salisbury (Conn.) 9-7, lost to Penn Charter (Pa.) 9-7
This Week: 4/20 at Germantown Academy (Pa.), 4/25 vs. Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.)

21. Malvern Prep (Pa.), 9-2 | Previously: No. 20
Last Week: beat Germantown Academy (Pa.) 17-8, Springside Chestnut Hill (Pa.) 11-6
This Week: 4/21 vs. Penn Charter (Pa.), 4/22 at Delbarton (N.J.), 4/25 at Episcopal Academy (Pa.)

22. St. Ignatius (Calif.), 11-2 | Previously:
Last Week: beat St. Joe’s Prep (Pa.) 10-6, Serra-San Mateo (Calif.) 18-1, lost to Landon (Md.) 15-11
This Week: 4/19 vs. Garden City (N.Y.), 4/20 at Chaminade (N.Y.)

23. Calvert Hall (Md.), 7-2 | Previously: NR
Last Week: beat Gilman (Md.) 12-7
This Week: 4/21 vs. McDonogh (Md.), 4/25 at Spalding (Md.)

24. New Canaan (Conn.), 3-3 | Previously: No. 21
Last Week: lost to Brien McMahon (Conn.) 14-3, lost to Brunswick (Conn.) 7-5, beat Norwalk (Conn.)
This Week: 4/20 vs. St. Joseph-Trumbull (Conn.), 4/22 at Fairfield Prep (Conn.), 4/25 at Staples (Conn.)

25. Manhasset (N.Y.), 4-2 | Previously: No. 24
Last Week: lost to Darien (Conn.) 12-8, beat Long Beach (N.Y.) 15-4
This Week: 4/22 vs. Wantagh (N.Y.)


CHS @ #7 is a complete joke given that very weak schedule. Loaded with powerhouse programs for sure.



Says the guy when CSH has been top-ranked EVERY year in I don't know how long. Quick - tell this everyone else in the lacrosse world they are all wrong and THIS guy really knows what's going on. Hereafter, all HS ranking will come directly from THIS guy! Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt!


"Top ranked" secondary to a perpetually weak schedule and having certain "media types" having boy crushes on a few of the players. They don't and will not play anyone else on that list above. Isn't that interesting? While several on that list will play several others. So who belongs: the boy crush team or the legit top ranked teams who actually play each other?


edit: one team from Connecticut doesn't cut it (see what I did there?)

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Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?

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Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?

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Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?


Your question is irrelevant and please, let us stay on point here, as to the focus of this dissertation, mainly being that CSH has a year after year line up of tomato cans to knock down each and every season, very conveniently, I might add.
Playing but one team barely on that top 25 list plus a schedule of liberally placed palookas does not equate to a 7 ranking, me thinks.

I would venture say that anyone outside of the CHS system would tend to concur with this point and that they might also agree that the boy crush by the still as yet unnamed media type has influenced, nay, hastened and supported this unsubstantiated climb up the rankings, whilst CSH remaining totally bereft of actual competition at this level.

And your eloquent and non embarrassing retort might be??

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Just looked at the CSH schedule. Quality wins over SW, Syosset, Southside, New Canaan, JJCR so far. You are kidding right? Tomato cans? Ask Manhasset if they are a tomato can as they got beat three years in a row by CSH. As far as the boy crush bs, when you deliver back to back state championships I for one respect those boys and so do a lot of other people within the lacrosse community on Long Island.

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Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?


Your question is irrelevant and please, let us stay on point here, as to the focus of this dissertation, mainly being that CSH has a year after year line up of tomato cans to knock down each and every season, very conveniently, I might add.
Playing but one team barely on that top 25 list plus a schedule of liberally placed palookas does not equate to a 7 ranking, me thinks.

I would venture say that anyone outside of the CHS system would tend to concur with this point and that they might also agree that the boy crush by the still as yet unnamed media type has influenced, nay, hastened and supported this unsubstantiated climb up the rankings, whilst CSH remaining totally bereft of actual competition at this level.

And your eloquent and non embarrassing retort might be??


"Me thinks" you should stop looking up your big boy words in the thesaurus & make your own kid better. Knocking down a public school because yours can't beat anyone to get in the rankings or you overpaid riding the bench at a private school is sad.

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New Canaan- CT State Champion.
Smithtown West-Perennial Suffolk A contender
Syosset-Won 3 of the last 4 Nassau A titles
John Jay-Perennial NY Section 1 Finalst
Southside-Annual game they have played for 20 years...
Huntington-Crosstown rivalry game they have played for 30+ years
Unfortunately Manhasset was dropped for this season due to some AD politics, hopefully that game returns as they have played annually 40 years, most seasons 2-3 times in league games and then for the county championshp.

No other Out of conference games allowed. League is what it is, not control of that.

In recent years CSh has scheduled Salesian-Perennnial Deleware stateChamp, Medfield-Mass state champ, St. Andrew's in Florida-perennial Fl state champ, St. Paul's MD. I could go on, but I think point was made.

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Just looked at the CSH schedule. Quality wins over SW, Syosset, Southside, New Canaan, JJCR so far. You are kidding right? Tomato cans? Ask Manhasset if they are a tomato can as they got beat three years in a row by CSH. As far as the boy crush bs, when you deliver back to back state championships I for one respect those boys and so do a lot of other people within the lacrosse community on Long Island.


yes; tomato cans....are any of their local "quality wins" over teams besides manhasset on that list? ummmm....no. back to back championships in the tomato can conference. not impressed.

this is not about lack of respect.

this is about undeserved national rankings.

period.

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New Canaan- CT State Champion.
Smithtown West-Perennial Suffolk A contender
Syosset-Won 3 of the last 4 Nassau A titles
John Jay-Perennial NY Section 1 Finalst
Southside-Annual game they have played for 20 years...
Huntington-Crosstown rivalry game they have played for 30+ years
Unfortunately Manhasset was dropped for this season due to some AD politics, hopefully that game returns as they have played annually 40 years, most seasons 2-3 times in league games and then for the county championshp.

No other Out of conference games allowed. League is what it is, not control of that.

In recent years CSh has scheduled Salesian-Perennnial Deleware stateChamp, Medfield-Mass state champ, St. Andrew's in Florida-perennial Fl state champ, St. Paul's MD. I could go on, but I think point was made.


Again. none on this group mentioned above are on the ranked list. Past glory days being put aside; how do these current "quality wins" justify a 7 ranking?

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Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?


Your question is irrelevant and please, let us stay on point here, as to the focus of this dissertation, mainly being that CSH has a year after year line up of tomato cans to knock down each and every season, very conveniently, I might add.
Playing but one team barely on that top 25 list plus a schedule of liberally placed palookas does not equate to a 7 ranking, me thinks.

I would venture say that anyone outside of the CHS system would tend to concur with this point and that they might also agree that the boy crush by the still as yet unnamed media type has influenced, nay, hastened and supported this unsubstantiated climb up the rankings, whilst CSH remaining totally bereft of actual competition at this level.

And your eloquent and non embarrassing retort might be??


LOL - what a tool! Now it's a media conspiracy??! Continue to beclown yourself further, but let me go get my tin foil hat first! And, I am not a CSH resident nor a "fan".

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We played them and they are legit. Deeper than you think. Rocket shot kid killed us. No joke. Hope they make a run of it.

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Okay so you think CSH is "soft" , where does your kid play?


Your question is irrelevant and please, let us stay on point here, as to the focus of this dissertation, mainly being that CSH has a year after year line up of tomato cans to knock down each and every season, very conveniently, I might add.
Playing but one team barely on that top 25 list plus a schedule of liberally placed palookas does not equate to a 7 ranking, me thinks.

I would venture say that anyone outside of the CHS system would tend to concur with this point and that they might also agree that the boy crush by the still as yet unnamed media type has influenced, nay, hastened and supported this unsubstantiated climb up the rankings, whilst CSH remaining totally bereft of actual competition at this level.

And your eloquent and non embarrassing retort might be??


"Me thinks" you should stop looking up your big boy words in the thesaurus & make your own kid better. Knocking down a public school because yours can't beat anyone to get in the rankings or you overpaid riding the bench at a private school is sad.


Clearly you are not the Mensa member of the family, so please refrain from further pedantic outbursts and attempts at insults. Try to follow along.

The dialogue was meant to question the validity of a 7 ranking for CSH in the face of a poor overall competition schedule against nationally ranked teams to justify such placement.

expand on this topic if you will

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As I said earlier in this thread about the national POLLS. Its like six guys that have seen maybe two teams each actually play. Its worth the paper its printed on so your opinion is probably just as valid as theirs. I can promise you, in the locker room the IL lax poll is not discussed, posted, referenced or on the wall of goals. And also on any given day just about any team on that list can beat any other team--in addition to another 25 not on the list. Given all that--Csh is right in the mix whether they are "ranked" 7th or drop a game and fall back to 45th...

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As I said earlier in this thread about the national POLLS. Its like six guys that have seen maybe two teams each actually play. Its worth the paper its printed on so your opinion is probably just as valid as theirs. I can promise you, in the locker room the IL lax poll is not discussed, posted, referenced or on the wall of goals. And also on any given day just about any team on that list can beat any other team--in addition to another 25 not on the list. Given all that--Csh is right in the mix whether they are "ranked" 7th or drop a game and fall back to 45th...


A legitimate answer finally. The polls are evidently biased and will never be an accurate representation of actual possible rankings; but they should take into account strength of current schedule and not past glory or the number of "ranked" players on a given team.

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As I said earlier in this thread about the national POLLS. Its like six guys that have seen maybe two teams each actually play. Its worth the paper its printed on so your opinion is probably just as valid as theirs. I can promise you, in the locker room the IL lax poll is not discussed, posted, referenced or on the wall of goals. And also on any given day just about any team on that list can beat any other team--in addition to another 25 not on the list. Given all that--Csh is right in the mix whether they are "ranked" 7th or drop a game and fall back to 45th...


A legitimate answer finally. The polls are evidently biased and will never be an accurate representation of actual possible rankings; but they should take into account strength of current schedule and not past glory or the number of "ranked" players on a given team.


What "past glory" is involved here??

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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.

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Based on this year's results to date, the center of lax universe is moving down 95 from LI to Baltimore (MIAA) and Washington (IAC)....but in a few years it may be located on the West coast!

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Wow, you're so dumb, you failed an open book test. It's in Newsday, 7-4,


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Nothing but crickets on the GC vs. St. I game last night?
No Box score in the paper.

ST.I came out east and played a good game against a tough Landon then came north and stymied a good GC team.

GC is pretty adept at controlling the information flow- only good news (positive puff pieces) are permitted.
Info on losses are squashed


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As I said earlier in this thread about the national POLLS. Its like six guys that have seen maybe two teams each actually play. Its worth the paper its printed on so your opinion is probably just as valid as theirs. I can promise you, in the locker room the IL lax poll is not discussed, posted, referenced or on the wall of goals. And also on any given day just about any team on that list can beat any other team--in addition to another 25 not on the list. Given all that--Csh is right in the mix whether they are "ranked" 7th or drop a game and fall back to 45th...


A legitimate answer finally. The polls are evidently biased and will never be an accurate representation of actual possible rankings; but they should take into account strength of current schedule and not past glory or the number of "ranked" players on a given team.


What "past glory" is involved here??


This past glory(below) pertaining to "quality opponents" as per another post, which apparently is justification for the current status:

New Canaan- CT State Champion.
Smithtown West-Perennial Suffolk A contender
Syosset-Won 3 of the last 4 Nassau A titles
John Jay-Perennial NY Section 1 Finalst
Southside-Annual game they have played for 20 years...
Huntington-Crosstown rivalry game they have played for 30+ years
Unfortunately Manhasset was dropped for this season due to some AD politics, hopefully that game returns as they have played annually 40 years, most seasons 2-3 times in league games and then for the county championshp.

No other Out of conference games allowed. League is what it is, not control of that.

In recent years CSh has scheduled Salesian-Perennnial Deleware stateChamp, Medfield-Mass state champ, St. Andrew's in Florida-perennial Fl state champ, St. Paul's MD. I could go on, but I think point was made.


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As I said earlier in this thread about the national POLLS. Its like six guys that have seen maybe two teams each actually play. Its worth the paper its printed on so your opinion is probably just as valid as theirs. I can promise you, in the locker room the IL lax poll is not discussed, posted, referenced or on the wall of goals. And also on any given day just about any team on that list can beat any other team--in addition to another 25 not on the list. Given all that--Csh is right in the mix whether they are "ranked" 7th or drop a game and fall back to 45th...


A legitimate answer finally. The polls are evidently biased and will never be an accurate representation of actual possible rankings; but they should take into account strength of current schedule and not past glory or the number of "ranked" players on a given team.


What "past glory" is involved here??


This past glory(below) pertaining to "quality opponents" as per another post, which apparently is justification for the current status:

New Canaan- CT State Champion.
Smithtown West-Perennial Suffolk A contender
Syosset-Won 3 of the last 4 Nassau A titles
John Jay-Perennial NY Section 1 Finalst
Southside-Annual game they have played for 20 years...
Huntington-Crosstown rivalry game they have played for 30+ years
Unfortunately Manhasset was dropped for this season due to some AD politics, hopefully that game returns as they have played annually 40 years, most seasons 2-3 times in league games and then for the county championshp.

No other Out of conference games allowed. League is what it is, not control of that.

In recent years CSh has scheduled Salesian-Perennnial Deleware stateChamp, Medfield-Mass state champ, St. Andrew's in Florida-perennial Fl state champ, St. Paul's MD. I could go on, but I think point was made.



In general, their "quality of opponent" has never been more or less than it is now - I'd even go so far as to argue that it is better today than historically, and any change in competition is largely limited to out of conference opponents, while their in conference competition has been mostly constant. So any allusion that their historical rankings/prestige were justified then ("past glory"), which no one seems to be disputing, versus not being justified today is an application of absolute illogic.

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Get a life guy... I guess you are right, they go looking for the softest O/C opponents they can find. I'll take my rose colored glasses off and just enjoy my view without them. Keep grasping for straws...It is obvious to all of us on here--you have an axe to grind.

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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.


There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.

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Get a life guy... I guess you are right, they go looking for the softest O/C opponents they can find. I'll take my rose colored glasses off and just enjoy my view without them. Keep grasping for straws...It is obvious to all of us on here--you have an axe to grind.


yes...let them stay in their "safe zone" where they are gods among mortals. makes everything rose colored when they don't dare to take on a team that might leave them black and blue. enjoy your rose' and delusional ranking

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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.


There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.


Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.

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Get a life guy... I guess you are right, they go looking for the softest O/C opponents they can find. I'll take my rose colored glasses off and just enjoy my view without them. Keep grasping for straws...It is obvious to all of us on here--you have an axe to grind.


yes...let them stay in their "safe zone" where they are gods among mortals. makes everything rose colored when they don't dare to take on a team that might leave them black and blue. enjoy your rose' and delusional ranking


You do realize that any team has limited non-conference games they can schedule?

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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.


There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.


I just came out of a very detailed analytical meeting about the rankings of all schools in Nassau and Suffolk county both publics and privates and it was anonymous and unanimous - CSH is the number one team on LI and more then justified being #7 in the nation. Next weeks meeting is also scheduled at my desk, lunch time on Friday.

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Get over it, these are polls. Have you seen every ranked team play & what makes your criteria not "drivel" to everyone else? Those "quality" teams were ranked when schedules were made they just got beat by CSH or others & knocked out. That's the way it goes. We all heard your point but you don't hear anyone else's so move on...or post your own poll.

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Get a life guy... I guess you are right, they go looking for the softest O/C opponents they can find. I'll take my rose colored glasses off and just enjoy my view without them. Keep grasping for straws...It is obvious to all of us on here--you have an axe to grind.

No, you're just a typical rich [lacrosse] who gives all of us a bad name outside of long island.

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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.


There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.


Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.


Forgive me; I forgot that this forum is followed primarily by long island blue collar types.
That is unfortunate and ultimately very telling by the responses received thus far.
Please do consider going back to school and perhaps you can relate to a higher level of communication without feeling threatened by polysyllabic words.
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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.


There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.


Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.



Thanks, you said it for me, that dude cannot have a friend to his name. Pompous a$$ hole that he is!

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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.


There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.


Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.


considering the two long island catholic schools alone; they both play 5 games each of the top 25 as does Mc Donogh,...you can research the rest if you care to. at least those three teams belong there

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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.


There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.


I just came out of a very detailed analytical meeting about the rankings of all schools in Nassau and Suffolk county both publics and privates and it was anonymous and unanimous - CSH is the number one team on LI and more then justified being #7 in the nation. Next weeks meeting is also scheduled at my desk, lunch time on Friday.



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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.


There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.


Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.


considering the two long island catholic schools alone; they both play 5 games each of the top 25 as does Mc Donogh,...you can research the rest if you care to. at least those three teams belong there



So now you want to compare non-conference scheduling flexibility of catholic versus public schools?? Also, even IF they had the same flexibility, to take your position to its logical end, you believe that any school in any given year can simply pick all of its non-conference opponents autonomously, without any consideration for what those opponent schools might want. Sure!

You can also use all of the polysyllabic words you want (as could I, although I choose not to, lest I come off as the pompous [lacrosse] that you do), but it doesn't raise the level of your argument beyond the oversimplistic one you present and/or repeat, ad nauseum.

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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.


There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.


I just came out of a very detailed analytical meeting about the rankings of all schools in Nassau and Suffolk county both publics and privates and it was anonymous and unanimous - CSH is the number one team on LI and more then justified being #7 in the nation. Next weeks meeting is also scheduled at my desk, lunch time on Friday.



Touche!

you work on friday?....and brown bag that lunch at your desk as well??.....so sad.

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I think the poll does however take into account results of cross region games and tries to piece things together--however, the flaw is in the starting view on how strong a given team or region is--I don't think they are blindly picking teams--they do the best they can based on what limited information and band width that they have and of course there are always going to be morons like yourself that nit pick it or have your own bias or anti sentiment against a certain team or town or some argument in a vacuum to refute their efforts. Thanks for your effort of breaking a certain team down in an effort to substantiate your bias... remember, its a lot easier to break something down than it is to build it. Stay positive champ.


There in is the "flaw" in your inane attempt to salvage a lost argument; that being "you think". I so do not care what you "think". I care that there is zero substantiation of a 7 ranking by CHS based on not playing other than one team in the top 25.

Until that "flaw" is addressed in a cohesive and intelligent manner, without resorting to base insulting and otherwise noncontributory conjecture, then all other follow up statements are otherwise worthless drivel.


Have you gone through the other top 25 teams and performed an equally 'comprehensive' analysis of their competition to date? If not, you are are basing your assessment on what "you think" just as much as the premise of the argument you are critiquing. And stop writing like you are trying to impress a college professor - on a public, anonymous lacrosse board, it does not come off as impressive. Rather, it reeks of someone trying TOO hard to elevate their argument by means of nothing more than ostentatious lexicon.


considering the two long island catholic schools alone; they both play 5 games each of the top 25 as does Mc Donogh,...you can research the rest if you care to. at least those three teams belong there



So now you want to compare non-conference scheduling flexibility of catholic versus public schools?? Also, even IF they had the same flexibility, to take your position to its logical end, you believe that any school in any given year can simply pick all of its non-conference opponents autonomously, without any consideration for what those opponent schools might want. Sure!

You can also use all of the polysyllabic words you want (as could I, although I choose not to, lest I come off as the pompous [lacrosse] that you do), but it doesn't raise the level of your argument beyond the oversimplistic one you present and/or repeat, ad nauseum.


I sense a certain amount of pride being hurt there. poor fella frown

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Seriously, are people really arguing about what HS team is and is not deserving of a "top 25" ranking? Anyone, and I mean anyone who thinks that there is any validity to a ranking of teams across state lines that never play each other is crazy. Not to mention the act that some of the teams listed barely have winning records. Come on man, someone (Ty) just lists 25 of the same pool of teamsnover and over every year. Get a grip, no one will ever know who the best team is and that is a fact

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