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Both sides have it right, and both sides have it wrong...

Is there something to the fact he's one or two years more physically mature? At the youth level, there probably is something to that. I'd bet, though, that a majority of those kids would be average had they played on-age their whole youth careers, and playing against kids less physically mature makes them look better than they really are. Not all, for sure.

In HS those differences do go by the wayside, because everyone's on a level playing field. Those Boys Latin holdbacks that start don't start because they were held back... they start because they're awesome relative to everyone else on their team this year.

If a HS sophomore (2x holdback) dominates a HS senior (on-age), then whether that kid was held back doesn't really matter... the age factor is out the window.

If that same HS sophomore doesn't play varsity because he couldn't get that much better playing against younger competition during his youth career, then age absolutely matters. Because he probably isn't going to get good enough those next two years to make up the difference.

"Being fooled by a holdback?" Recruiters really don't care about that. Why do you think teams are grouped by graduation year? Recruiters want to know when they can get you, not how old you are.

So as the argument posits- private schools determine prefirst, holdback, other advantage; so most club lax boys are miaa; now for example all 7th grade age kids play 6th grade; you are now all on age but a grade lower so no advantage except against public school kids so who cares. How do you holdbacks gain an advantage against each other? W

FCA over T 9-1 MD

Coaching and hard work, brother.

Any takers or predictions for 2023 teams this season...Here goes.

Crabs
Bethesda
Next Level
Club Blue
FCA
Looneys
MadLax
RoughRiders

OK here goes....
U
Need
A
Life

Bandits.

Did Hawks fold?

Bandits

With the bandits is that with or without the crush kids?

To be clear, it's "kid", not "kids". And the kid that plays on Crush (a 2020 team) is in 7th grade (2022 grade level). Granted, he's a holdback and should be on a 2021, but you know the story. In grade based tourneys, he's a legit 2022. That's why he plays with the Bandits when they play up in 2022. The other 2 "kids" that you're talking about are his twin brothers. They are legit 2023s that play on the Nandits.

Why don't south river, cannons and cavaliers play AA. They all have 80 kids trying out for there teams. Don't understand why they don't want to challenge there kids. they just want to beat up on B teams. NO HEART

To be clear...Don't pump up your squad too much on a Maryland 2023 forum.... You have yet to play anyone decent in Maryland... Our elite teams beat clubs that have beaten your club.... But since you come down hear looking for wins and not challenges, your club consistently plays crappy tournaments. Congratulations on your Bay Bridge Brawl championships and Beach Lax Championships....Come play some NLF tournaments this year then you can pound on your chest and claim your team is all world

The league picks the divisions not the teams... If they were really great last year then the league should re-evaluate and make moves consistent with records....

Really? You are on a 2023 lacrosse forum and do not want people to talk about lacrosse... [lacrosse] off dude... Your the one who needs to get a life....

2023--
Bandits
Igloo
Bethesda
Express A
s2s
Crabs

IN THAT ORDER. BOOK IT!!

The clubs choose which levels they want to play in. The league has a competition committee that suggests teams move up or down. Those teams ran over the A division when they werent playing each other. They are trophy hunting to play A again. Hoco would let them play AA

no the teams pick the divisions they want to play in. HOCO should make them play in the correct divisions. They use to have a competition committee a few years ago. They moved teams up and down to get more competitive games.

You're a funny guy. We lost one game on grade level... ever. That game was a fluke.

Clearly a S2S parent.

Which NLF tourneys are you talking about? I'm pretty sure we play all of the ones open to 2023's. Your team isn't good enough to get invited. We'll be at Naptown. Are you good enough to play that one?

What's a nandit? Is that the code name for holdback?

Apparently the crabs argument goes like this - summer 2016 igloo beat bandits, then crabs beat igloo, so crabs is better than bandits.

Bethesda isn't in any of there leagues

Someone from Maryland is talking about holdbacks???? That's absolutely laughable! But I guess the answer is no, your kid's team is not good enough to play the Bandits.

And win them all.

Are there any HOCO groupings yet?

Apparently not final-

2023 AA
FCA
Crabs
Madlax
Hawks
Club Blue
Looney's
Rough Riders
Next Level
Bethesda
Team 91

2023 A
Lax Factory
FCA
API
Peninsula
Cannons
Cavalier
3D Select
Looney's
Gonzo
South River
Hawks
Lax World

2023 B
Hereford
Madlax
MD Xtreme
Zingos
HoCo
Kooper's
Rock
Green Hornets
Wolfpack
Breakers
Sidewinders
Bethesda

HOCO changed the logos at the bottom of the page, did some teams drop out?

I notice that the Madlax logo is not on the HOCO website. If they were dropping out of HOCO I am sure the Madlax page on here would already be talking about it. What clubs are thinking dropped out?

Yeah the Bandits are probably the most dominating team to ever play the sport. These kids are amazing and what a great group of parents... The pressures these kids endure by being the best for so long is really just unimaginable

I wonder how many of the bandits will not be eligible for the wsyl, because they are to old to play? Greatest ever not so much

So your saying the Bandits have kids that were born before 9/1/03?

they dont

bet

Funny how these organizations run.. At some point it only matters how good your kid is... Not where your Daddy played and where he went to school... Cruel joke and some of the top clubs in the area are loosing their integrity by playing into these politics...

Totally agree. Went to club to get away from Daddy ball. Seems like no escape even with non Dad coaches. Why wouldn't you play the best kids not matter the situation? Looks like things may be going back to Rec... Why should parents pay 2k for the same results of 200.00 for Rec clueless parents

Anyone know how the Crabs, BLC and Hawks did this weekend?

Crabs won. Don't know about the other 2 but the Hawks are a joke this year. They at least used to be able to play defense but they are getting SHREDDED this year. Looks like the same kids though but different lines

BLC lost 5-4